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Her problems aren't so severe, rather, they just compiled on top of each other and everything seemed overwhelming to her . . out of a job, her car repossessed, bill collectors calling . . normal stuff (being sarcastic, of course)

Once she gets a job, everything won't seem so horrible.

Her husband came home, so I didn't really do anything except be her voice of sanity until he could get home to her. I talked to him and he got her to go to sleep, so, hopefully, everything won't seem so out-of-control in the morning.
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Certainly, we argue . . everybody does . . but, when this happens, it means that we are just being temporarily emotional because we are angry or upset . .not really putting foot down sort of thing.

My husband doesn't tell me to shut up . . nor, I, him . . I'm not really sure what kind of boys you're talking about . . I think if I came across a man like this, I would walk the other way and not want to date.

I'm lost here.
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We don't allow that in our relationship . . everybody has emotions . . if he's upset, or I'm upset and need to vent, need to express ourselves, then we respect each other enough to let the other get out what is bothering them. We don't take that as, "Don't talk to me like that."

If he's angry, or upset, or has something he needs to voice . . I encourage this because he is a person and needing the ability within our relationship to express himself.

We don't get hysterical with each other . . I've never experienced this before, so I don't really know.
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I've seen other people to whom you are referring, though . . like in the grocery store and the girl is bitching and carrying on for no apparant reason, except maybe because she doesn't have any sense of respect . . the guy just stands there with a look on his face as though he is thinking, "What the hell did I ever see in her."

For me . . if I was with a man and he thought he could talk to me like that . . he'd be a tosser . . kick him to the curb and look for real man.
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Perhaps, it has more to do with children these days not learning respect because even when we were younger in our relationship . . we didn't talk to each other like that, nor, did anyone I know.

We didn't have the need to have power and control, rather, a mutual understanding based on different values.

Really, I would find it quite difficult to be single these days . . a relationship isn't about power . . it's about beautiful moments.
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Seriously . . what's the matter with people?

"If you come out him screeming and fussing and cursing"

Well, perhaps you're right, IF I did that . . Branh, we just dont' talk to each other like . . never have. Certainly, I have issues in my marriage that need addressing, but, we wouldn't handle it like that. We're not children. We have a son and grandchildren . . they look to us for guidance . .

I have to ask . . why would you date someone like that? Is this the kind of treatment you want from a partner?

Ok, maybe I should back away from this because I don't want to start sounding like my usual bitchy self . . I don't want to get started.
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Branh, we argue . . all the time . . I'm not suggesting we don't argue . . I'm simply saying that we allow each other the right to have a voice.

I'm not meaning that I don't allow him to yell at me, I yell at him too, if I'm angry. What I'm meaning is . . we then don't pull some power ego trip on each other and then take the stand that one is better than the other and not allowed to have feelings.

That is how I took it . . but, I've taken things wrong before . . so, maybe I'm just not seeing this as it's intended.
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Seriously, though, I really feel that if my man said to me, "Don't raise your voice to me", when I'm clearly upset about something . . I would leave him.

My man is quite the opposite . . if I'm upset and my voice is louder than normal, then he comprehends that something is wrong with me and I need his support to work through what is bothering me, rather than taking some power stance. If I'm crying, he recognizes that something is wrong.

Perhaps, this is why people have such a hard time in relationships these days. Instead of understanding that something is wrong with their partner, for they are expressing emotions, they take offense to it, like, "How dare you." How dare me, what? I'm human, I feel.

But, like I said . . I will seriously try to see what you mean by this. The next time I see this happen in public, I'll look closer at the intent, rather than the disgrace of the disrespect.
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Feminist?

I am far from feminist . . not even close . . I just respect and not get hysterical and out-of-control, simply because I can because I am female.

Quite the opposite of feminist . . females today are out-of-control with thier dictating to men, yelling and cursing at them . .

Perhaps, I'm getting the meaning of being feminist . .

I can see what you're saying . . you are meaning that if a woman gets all cocky with her man and telling him what to do and being fussy, then it's sexy if he in turn gets all macho and tells her to shut up . . puts her in her place . . I get that.

What I don't get is . . why would adults do that? Treating somebody like that isn't sexy to me . . to me, it's disrespectful to talk to each other like that in the first place.

Macho vs. punk . . that is what this is about. You'd rather a man be manly, rather than a whimp . . . and I see this is where you're coming from.

I don't feel this way . . I'd rather my man be mature.
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Feminist

A large portion of feminists are especially concerned with what they perceive to be the social, political and economic inequality between the sexes which favors the male gender; some have argued that gendered and sexed identities, such as "man" and "woman", are socially constructed. Feminists disagree over the sources of inequality, how to attain equality, and the extent to which gender and gender-based identities should be questioned and critiqued.


Ok, so maybe I am because I don't favor the males as being above women. I didn't realize that girls today actually believe that men are superiour to them. Perhaps, I need to take a better look at the younger generation to see why the girls feel and believe that they are sub-standard humans in compared to men.

I would think that ANY woman who has a job making equal pay, would actually be thankful that she is able to do so. I know many women, young and old and ALL of them enjoy having the opportunities that have been bestowed upon them . . perhaps, I am wrong . . perhaps in their hearts, they would rather sit at home and do laundry and not be allowed their social circle unless their man told them it was permitted.

You got me started . . I'm off on a tangent, like you said Branh.
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Message posted by: branh0913 on 1/13/2007 3:42:46 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.2
Well women do try to test a man. i haven't met one woman who doesn't. Women do like men who stand up for themselves and draw the line. I've found that if you are too nice, then women treat you like shit. it is almost as if they know they are wrong, but they are just waiting for you to say something about it


Well, the only thing I can tell you is . . stop dating little girls. Mature women dont' do this.