Confused about my Virgo bf.

Regarding the title, what's new, right? lol
But I'm not confused in the sense that what he does is baffling to me, I'm confused about what I, myself, should do.
We've been together for 10 months now and I feel like we're in a relationship slump. Neither of us have yet to exchange "I love you"s, which is kind of a relief, because I don't love him yet. We also seem to have become so mundane.

Things aren't bad, but they aren't good either. They just simply...are. Sometimes in our relationship, I feel taken for granted. Everything feels like it is orchestrated on his time, not mine. He responds to my texts when he wants to, or simply doesn't respond--even when I ask a question; something that he would never leave open-ended previously. When *I* have suggestions for dates or hangouts, he says "maybe", which in reality is just a passive-aggressive "no." When we do hangout, he's very affectionate and tells me he likes me a lot. He tells me he's "addicted" to me and acts that way. Though, the second we are apart, *poof*, addiction gone.I might as well not even have a boyfriend.

Lately, I feel like I've been treated like an afterthought. Somehow, he is intuitive about when I feel this way, because he apologizes, but things just don't feel right. I still like him so much, but some of this relationship is beginning to feel rehearsed and contrived. It's like we're "performing" this relationship on a schedule; there's no room for spontaneity.

I don't require rose petals and diamond necklaces and all of those cheesy things, but at the very least, I ask that I be with someone who doesn't make me feel like an obligation. And sometimes he can be quite selfish. I get him little gifts and pay for both of us when we go out, and not once does he ever feel inclined to do the same for me. I LIKE doing those things but not when someone takes the gesture for granted.

I used to always be the first to text him, yet as of late, haven't felt inclined to talk to him much, so he's been texting me first. It's a trivial thing to notice, yes, but it gives me some hope that he IS still interested.

I just don't know if we should break-up, or if I should give us more time to see if things change.

I don't know whether I should talk to him yet, or not. I would like to resolve this, but I feel that perhaps I am making a big deal out of nothing. Sometimes I feel I get angry over trivial things, and with some time, I come to a realization that there really was nothing to be upset over. I don't know if this is similar or not. I've never been in a serious relationship before this.

He's not feeding your ego enough *hand up*. Softly lady, softly. You seem to require many reassurances, pats and strokes to feel like you are on solid ground in relationship. He is not doing this, which compounds things and makes you feel as though he does not care.
What I would suggest ( as CancerMoon did ) is bring this to him, all of it. See what he says. What his feelings are. Go from there.

Ah, but if that IS the case, I would feel embarrassed to bring it up to him. "Oh hey, could you stroke my ego some more? No? Then we're over." What a horrible trait to admit defeat over. I mean, I do require some reassurance, but is it unruly or demanding to ask that my boyfriend seem interested in me and acknowledge my existence when we aren't standing next to one another? Or that I would like him to try new things I suggest, like he used to be willing to do? As I mentioned, I've never been in a serious relationship, so I don't know if my expectations are too idealistic or not. Of course, I have the common sense to know the basics of being mistreated, but I don't know if I'm being too hasty about deeming his actions as insensitive and uncaring.

The last time I considered breaking up with him, we talked, resolved things and became closer. The problem is, I never want to tell someone to do something that doesn't seem natural to them. I want to be in a relationship with how a person naturally is, not with how a person feels they SHOULD be. It's not my place to tell him how to act. Suppose he does start texting and calling me more regularly, that would seem like a superficial resolution because he'd only be doing it since I asked, not because he wants to.

I don't know, I really am very confused!

How can you be that friggin' gorgeous and somebody doesn't treat you like a queen?!? Baffles the crap outta me. Anywho, how old is he? Does he wear you on his arm in public (i.e. show you off and go nya nya look what you don't have)? Have you had sex with him? Have you both met eachothers' parents? What relationship-building activities do you do with him when you are together?

This isn't about asking him to do anything unnatural to self or his personality in general. This is about your comfort level, and his. A common meeting ground, not bending someone to your will in that regard.
Case in point; you let this continue you will get more and more resolute that he does not give two flips about you, when his reaction might be "HUH?!" Do you see where I am going with this? If you let things build and build they don't do either of you any good. You wind up hurt and resentful, he picks up on that and creates distance. It will continue to cascade to the point of being ludicrous. Neither end point is what you want.
And pardon me, but bringing a potential problem up to someone you want to be with is not anything to be leery of. You should be comfortable enough to say "Look. My emotional needs are suffering because of this...that...oh, and here..". He may be completely unaware of its effect on you personally. And for you to go on with needless emotional "blearrrrgh" is doing you a disservice. And him one.
Yes, bring it up to him, please DO in fact.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
How can you be that friggin' gorgeous and somebody doesn't treat you like a queen?!? Baffles the crap outta me. Anywho, how old is he? Does he wear you on his arm in public (i.e. show you off and go nya nya look what you don't have)? Have you had sex with him? Have you both met eachothers' parents? What relationship-building activities do you do with him when you are together?

Well, thank you! That's very sweet of you to say haha.

He is my age, 21. He doesn't treat me like arm candy, if that is what you are asking, but I like that! I don't think many women like being paraded around simply as an object. Though, when I met his friends, most of them said they were really glad to finally meet me because they had heard a lot of good things. So at least, he used to seem kind of proud of me. We have had sex, but only once! It's odd, I know. I lost my virginity to him, and after, he acted like such a girl. I was fine with how things went, but he was really emotional and I had to console him. I felt like *I* was the one that just took his virginity. He said he wanted everything to be perfect for me and felt bad that it wasn't. Which is weird, because I already told him I didn't EXPECT perfection or anything remotely similar to it. Wow, come to think of it, ever since we had sex is when I noticed him acting differently. Hmm.

I have met his parents; I met them very early on. I see them quite frequently, actually. He hasn't really met my mom other than a brief encounter because she just recently got back from working 2 years in Texas.

And regarding your last question, what relationship-building activities do you mean? No bicycles built for two here, if that's considered an example haha.

What is the point of a companion/bf if you feel lonely still?! I rather be single than be with someone who makes me feel lonely. Couple of my friends are dating virgo guys, and they all said that their virgo man never pays or if he does, then he pays for the cheaper thing. For example, they go out for dinner and movies. The virgo dude pays for the movies because the dinner is expensive and he wants my firend to take it. lol.

I personally do not like virgos for their constant criticisms. So annoying. Does he criticize you a lot? Anyway, if he's going to treat you like an option and not a priority, bounce NOW! Also don't buy love. I don't know if you always pay for everything on dates or most of the time, but if you do, you might as well get a high class escort service dude because at least that guy will do his job and pay attention to you more than this guy does =)

I think girls who always pay for their bfs or most of the time are buying love. You should be with someone who loves you and WANTS to spend time with you. Not spend time with you out of obligation or because he has nothing better to do. Good luck w/ your thing girl!

Posted by venusianbull
This isn't about asking him to do anything unnatural to self or his personality in general. This is about your comfort level, and his. A common meeting ground, not bending someone to your will in that regard.
Case in point; you let this continue you will get more and more resolute that he does not give two flips about you, when his reaction might be "HUH?!" Do you see where I am going with this? If you let things build and build they don't do either of you any good. You wind up hurt and resentful, he picks up on that and creates distance. It will continue to cascade to the point of being ludicrous. Neither end point is what you want.
And pardon me, but bringing a potential problem up to someone you want to be with is not anything to be leery of. You should be comfortable enough to say "Look. My emotional needs are suffering because of this...that...oh, and here..". He may be completely unaware of its effect on you personally. And for you to go on with needless emotional "blearrrrgh" is doing you a disservice. And him one.
Yes, bring it up to him, please DO in fact.

Alright, thank you! I appreciate the straight-forward response. I always have to build up so much courage to confront someone, regardless of how comfortable I am with them. I just have to suck it up, though. Otherwise, like you mentioned, things will just escalate in a downward spiral.

And lest we forget, love is not always rose petals, dripping waterfalls and soft music piped in overhead so that you glide across a floor enraptured in someones dewy eyes. It takes conscious effort, real work and an honest feeling that this is the person you want to be with.
In short, it ain't perfect. It never was, it never will be. Pain and joy are equal partners and you must go into it with eyes wide open. If you don't, you will fall.

Posted by LibraLove

Posted by venusianbull
This isn't about asking him to do anything unnatural to self or his personality in general. This is about your comfort level, and his. A common meeting ground, not bending someone to your will in that regard.
Case in point; you let this continue you will get more and more resolute that he does not give two flips about you, when his reaction might be "HUH?!" Do you see where I am going with this? If you let things build and build they don't do either of you any good. You wind up hurt and resentful, he picks up on that and creates distance. It will continue to cascade to the point of being ludicrous. Neither end point is what you want.
And pardon me, but bringing a potential problem up to someone you want to be with is not anything to be leery of. You should be comfortable enough to say "Look. My emotional needs are suffering because of this...that...oh, and here..". He may be completely unaware of its effect on you personally. And for you to go on with needless emotional "blearrrrgh" is doing you a disservice. And him one.
Yes, bring it up to him, please DO in fact.

Alright, thank you! I appreciate the straight-forward response. I always have to build up so much courage to confront someone, regardless of how comfortable I am with them. I just have to suck it up, though. Otherwise, like you mentioned, things will just escalate in a downward spiral.

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Most excellent, for that was kindly meant lady. And heyyyy ho. Put it on paper and slip it into his lunch or leave it on his bed with a lovely flower. Might be the start of something big. 😉

Posted by aquarius09
What is the point of a companion/bf if you feel lonely still? I rather be single than be with someone who makes me feel lonely. Couple of my friends are dating virgo guys, and they all said that their virgo man never pays or if he does, then he pays for the cheaper thing. For example, they go out for dinner and movies. The virgo dude pays for the movies because the dinner is expensive and he wants my firend to take it. lol.

I personally do not like virgos for their constant criticisms. So annoying. Does he criticize you a lot? Anyway, if he's going to treat you like an option and not a priority, bounce NOW! Also don't buy love. I don't know if you always pay for everything on dates or most of the time, but if you do, you might as well get a high class escort service dude because at least that guy will do his job and pay attention to you more than this guy does =)

I think girls who always pay for their bfs or most of the time are buying love. You should be with someone who loves you and WANTS to spend time with you. Not spend time with you out of obligation or because he has nothing better to do. Good luck w/ your thing girl!

Great point! The problem is, when we're together it feels so good I forget about how alone I feel when we're apart.

No, he doesn't criticize me. And when we go out, we usually split the bill, even though I think it'd be better if we just took turns. For instance, I treat him one week; he the other. I really hate splitting the bill, though, so I just end up paying for the entire tab sometimes. I'm not trying to buy his love; even the gifts I give him are small trinkets. I do the same for my friends. I get them inexpensive, small things that mean something significant.

I appreciate the advice, though!

I think everyone has made valid points so far. Of course this is just an advice section though. I know a relationship is always under construction and will never be perfect but without you bringing up your feelings on the matter, how are you supposed to know how the two of you are faring? Definitely talk to him. From the info you provided I personally don't see a positive outlook but I have heard little to none of his side.

A relationship-building activity can be anything that empowers one or the other or both parties through attacking or accomplishing said activity. Let's say you play guitar and he doesn't, but has expressed an interest in learning. Give him lessons. Let's say he's great at video games and you're not. Get on there a few times and take a crack at it. Maybe the both of you suck at dancing, set up appts for couples dance classes. See where I'm going with this?

Posted by venusianbull
And lest we forget, love is not always rose petals, dripping waterfalls and soft music piped in overhead so that you glide across a floor enraptured in someones dewy eyes. It takes conscious effort, real work and an honest feeling that this is the person you want to be with.
In short, it ain't perfect. It never was, it never will be. Pain and joy are equal partners and you must go into it with eyes wide open. If you don't, you will fall.

Even though I've never been in a real relationship, I've always acknowledged they took work and compromise. But perhaps I underestimated how much. Perhaps one day I'll be as insightful as you haha.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
I think everyone has made valid points so far. Of course this is just an advice section though. I know a relationship is always under construction and will never be perfect but without you bringing up your feelings on the matter, how are you supposed to know how the two of you are faring? Definitely talk to him. From the info you provided I personally don't see a positive outlook but I have heard little to none of his side.

A relationship-building activity can be anything that empowers one or the other or both parties through attacking or accomplishing said activity. Let's say you play guitar and he doesn't, but has expressed an interest in learning. Give him lessons. Let's say he's great at video games and you're not. Get on there a few times and take a crack at it. Maybe the both of you suck at dancing, set up appts for couples dance classes. See where I'm going with this?

I think part of the reason I am afraid to address the issue is because, like you mentioned, a positive outlook seems nigh.The latest thing to have made me weary is I found out he has been talking to his ex girlfriend again. This alone doesn't concern me since I'm still friends with my ex, but what is troubling is he made such a big deal of telling me that once he's done with someone, he's done! That an ex is an ex for a reason and he has nothing to say to them, blah, blah, blah. I just feel so insecure and stupid at the moment.

Well, he's taught me to play several instruments, and since I'm Iranian, he wanted to learn more about my culture, so I've taught him some Farsi and taken him out to try Persian food.

LOL It's just life lady. Everyone makes some real lunk-headed and classic mistakes, but that is what it's about. Learning. I'm trying to grease the skids for you, let you fly under the radar a speck. 🙂

Posted by venusianbull
LOL It's just life lady. Everyone makes some real lunk-headed and classic mistakes, but that is what it's about. Learning. I'm trying to grease the skids for you, let you fly under the radar a speck. 🙂

And I'm willing to catch any break I can get. So thanks 😉

😉 Any time.

You gotta keep in mind a few other things too. With age comes wisdom. Guys use love to gain sex, women use sex to gain love. He's probably still thinking with his junk and I woulda been looking elsewhere for it if I wasn't getting it at that age. You two are young, meant to undergo life's joys and blunders. You don't come out of your relationships going, "Failed another one. What's wrong with me" You look at what you can learn from the experience. You are coming step by step, closer and closer to knowing how your potential husband should treat you. Everything except the looks cuz you're one shallow b@stard if you literally use a looks checklist and are waiting for the one with all the gold stars to line up lol.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
You gotta keep in mind a few other things too. With age comes wisdom. Guys use love to gain sex, women use sex to gain love. He's probably still thinking with his junk and I woulda been looking elsewhere for it if I wasn't getting it at that age. You two are young, meant to undergo life's joys and blunders. You don't come out of your relationships going, "Failed another one. What's wrong with me" You look at what you can learn from the experience. You are coming step by step, closer and closer to knowing how your potential husband should treat you. Everything except the looks cuz you're one shallow b@stard if you literally use a looks checklist and are waiting for the one with all the gold stars to line up lol.

Looks have always been secondary to me. If you aren't intelligent or possess a sense of humor, it doesn't matter how attractive you are.

I wish I could still be young but embody the same semblance of sanity and insight that you and venusianbull seem to have.
If only!

Whether male or female, when some part of you hangs to the ground and needs pills or surgery to get back up, then you'll go, "Ahhhhh, I see now!"

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
Whether male or female, when some part of you hangs to the ground and needs pills or surgery to get back up, then you'll go, "Ahhhhh, I see now!"

I can't wait until my breasts touch the ground. I've always had a penchant for soccer...

Also, he texted me tonight to tell me something about the train he was on. I didn't respond, so two hours later he texted "You're awesome! Have a good night 🙂 " which leads me to believe he knows something is definitely up with me.

Posted by LibraLove

When we do hangout, he's very affectionate and tells me he likes me a lot. He tells me he's "addicted" to me and acts that way. Though, the second we are apart, *poof*, addiction gone.I might as well not even have a boyfriend.

I am the same way.
When I am not around my girlfriend, I put my focus on other things [studies, news, games] so that I don't think about her and miss her as a result. I do not like the feeling of missing someone, therefore, I avoid it.

But once you put her in front of me, the "addiction" can not be with held.

It's like we're "performing" this relationship on a schedule; there's no room for spontaneity.

We like order and planning. Spontaneity is pointless to us, for the most part.
You Libras like to be romanced too much. Romancers are typically womanisers.

And sometimes he can be quite selfish. I get him little gifts and pay for both of us when we go out, and not once does he ever feel inclined to do the same for me. I LIKE doing those things but not when someone takes the gesture for granted.

Proof you're a Libra, giving and giving materialistically.
If it were practical for him to do the same, I am sure he would. But he probably has long term goals for his cash.
Maybe saving to buy a ring? who knows.

Posted by LibraLove
I don't know whether I should talk to him yet, or not. I would like to resolve this, but I feel that perhaps I am making a big deal out of nothing. Sometimes I feel I get angry over trivial things, and with some time, I come to a realization that there really was nothing to be upset over. I don't know if this is similar or not. I've never been in a serious relationship before this.

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Proof #2 you are a Libra.
It's how you're made.

Posted by LibraLove

We've been together for 10 months now and I feel like we're in a relationship slump. Neither of us have yet to exchange "I love you"s, which is kind of a relief, because I don't love him yet.

You don't love him ... so what's the problem?

From everything I've read here, it sounds like you are wanting him to be responsible for your lack of love .. when those are YOUR feelings to work on.

so 10 months later, you haven't found love for him and you ....... bitch?



Rather than actually leave?

You stay and bitch.



sobeit ... lay in your miserable bed, for you made it ... the door has always been open, however, you choose to not walk through it ... why are you here?

Trying to find blame other than yourself?

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Posted by LibraLove
I don't require rose petals and diamond necklaces and all of those cheesy things, but at the very least, I ask that I be with someone who doesn't make me feel like an obligation. And sometimes he can be quite selfish. I get him little gifts and pay for both of us when we go out, and not once does he ever feel inclined to do the same for me. I LIKE doing those things but not when someone takes the gesture for granted.

Seriously, WHERE ARE YOU WOMEN FINDING THESE MEN?

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I completely disagree with this assessment that infers that she is an innocent who happened upon a jerk .. for that is not the case.

10 months have gone by and still she sits, waiting for him to change his life to suit her. she's known all this 10 months about his character ... that doesnt' constitute her as an innocent .. it makes her the guilty party.

A person is responsible for themselves ... if they find themselves in a position that is bad for them, they must leave before the other can harm thier feelings, however ... if they choose to stay and subject themselves once they've realized the truth, then the person themselves becomes the guilty party for their disgruntlement.



10 months no longer qualifies a person as being a victim

"I can't wait until my breasts touch the ground. I've always had a penchant for soccer..."

This is funny!

Posted by CappyyLuv30

Are you sure you're in a relationship or are you doing the girl thing and calling him your boyfriend when you guys are just friends that hang out occasionally? I'm not trying to belittle you by any means just want to make you see things at a different angle. Sometimes we confuse the attention for more than what it really is. Do you have those evil rose-colored glasses on? How does he introduce you - as his girl or by name? I get the feeling that you are more in the relationship than he is. I mean when a man REALLY wants to be with you, he's going to avidly text, call, suggest places and just overall want to be with you 24/7. Sex included. Unless this is a Virgo thing that I am unaware of....at the end of the day, a man's a man ya know what I'm saying. Just my 2 cents

That is your interpretation of a man "wanting you".

As a 2nd Decan Virgo, I see no reason to constantly call and text.
My Mercury in Libra will also not allow me to suggest places.

The desire to be around her would exist, but she would be told of it and only see it when practical.

Okay, just to clear several things up:

1. When did I state we aren't official? We've been seeing one another since April, and have been official since October. When he introduces me to his friends, it is ALWAYS as his "girlfriend," never simply by my name.

2. I don't understand why falling in love requires a time limit. Up until recently, things were going very well, so the fact that we hadn't exchanged "I love you"s didn't really concern me. As I mentioned, I haven't been in a serious relationship before, so I just assumed that things would progress organically and just because I hadn't fallen in love yet, didn't mean I never would. My reasoning for staying was because things WERE going well and I figured who cares if we haven't said we love one another yet if the relationship seemed to be doing fine.

3. As aforementioned, things WERE going well, meaning that he has been acting differently as of late, or perhaps, I am just now beginning to take issue with certain things. Either way, it's a recent revelation; I'm not crazy, I wouldn't willingly stay with somebody who has made me upset from the beginning.

4. P-Angel, I think it's incredibly presumptuous and self-assured of you to twist my words, misinterpret my situation and act so aggressively when I'm merely asking for advice. It's easy to say I'm victimizing myself when you don't hear his side, that I understand, but I'm not here for sympathy--I'm here for the same great advice (minus the uppity interjectory by individuals such as yourself) that I've been receiving from this site since I began posting in September.

5. Thank you to everyone else who offered real insight!Especially Cajun, who seems to always know how to articulate the problems. I'm going to talk to him very soon.

^ This.

Posted by LibraLove

4. P-Angel, I think it's incredibly presumptuous and self-assured of you to twist my words, misinterpret my situation and act so aggressively when I'm merely asking for advice. It's easy to say I'm victimizing myself when you don't hear his side, that I understand, but I'm not here for sympathy--I'm here for the same great advice (minus the uppity interjectory by individuals such as yourself) that I've been receiving from this site since I began posting in September.

I seriously have a hard time with stupid people ... you are the one who said you don't love him .. no twisting.

It's not my problem you can't the truth.

So, in your defense, which you numbered ... you said several times that the relationship was going great ... completely ignorant to the fact that you created this thread because the relationship was not going great.



Seriouly .... and then you think you should be treated like you are a victim?

Of course I'm going to be defensive if someone outright attacks me. You expect me to let someone sh*t on my face and then thank them for it? That'd be ludicrous. Well, given the circumstance, it's more R.Kelly, but that's beside the point.

The fact that the relationship WAS going great isn't conducive of it still being that way. I created this thread because I feel NOW that it isn't going that way.

Sorry that I'm being so aggressive and rude, but I am confused, and not so receptive to harsh criticism even if it's embedded with valid advice. I really do not expect to be treated as a victim, but conversely, I also don't anticipate to be treated like a villain either.

Posted by LibraLove

I've never been in a serious relationship before this.

You're not in a serious relationship now .. and have no clue.

You are basically using each other because that's better than lonliness, but, obviously waiting for greener pastures.


that's not serious ... that is settling out of fear ... and you are obviously not experienced enough to get that.

Posted by LibraLove

The fact that the relationship WAS going great isn't conducive of it still being that way. I created this thread because I feel NOW that it isn't going that way.

It never was .... if 10 months has gone by and no love is involved.

What's the matter with you? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Or, are you always dense? Is this a Libra thing?


A relationship that leads him away from respecting you, or caring about your well being, or being concerned with you is the opposite of ...

... "the relationship WAS going great" ...

You fuck yourself up and think I'm shitting on your face?


Is that your way of being ignorant to the truth?


Fine by me ... I have my Virgo man.

Posted by CappyyLuv30

She's paying for the dates, he's barely communicating and sex only 1 time in 10 months? This is just odd.

The only thing that is odd about it, CappyLuv, is that this Libra woman thinks she means something to him.

If the sign is written on the wall, you are suppose to look at it, not put a blanket over it so you can continue to complain that he's being mean.


Seriously .... the only odd is her for being proud of the ignorance of truth.

Posted by CappyyLuv30

I've never dated a Virgo so this interpretation is simply what I've experienced.

This is evident in all of your writing.

Perhaps, constantly/avidly are poor word choices. What I'm trying to say is that a man gives attention when he wants/loves/desires a woman. Some more, some less but attention nonetheless. From what I gather from her, he seems to be nonchalant about her which causes her to doubt. Why would you want to instill doubt in your girlfriend of almost a year?

Given her previous topics concerning him, I do not believe he is nonchalant.
She has simply reached a point where she realises how practical, pragmatic and controlled her relationship is.

Libras like romance, drama and excitement. Virgos are about steadiness, drama free and planned enjoyment.

A lot of women take some time to learn what they really want in life. It is only through dating and experience qualities they dislike to they figure out what they really want. Her ideals of a relationship in the beginning might probably be quite different than those she has now.

I don't think daily contact is a tall order, is it? And sex? C'mon, don't you want to sex up your girl on the daily? That's just human desire, not even astrological.

Virgo men are cautious and can be prudes at times.
Libra women present a strong classical woman facade. They get irritable over trivial things, cause dramatic scenes flare up and argue for no apparent reason. Some Libra women I know scoff at talks of sex.

This may not be the case with our friend here, but if she does exhibit ANY kind of classic Libran behaviour, he probably thinks she is disinterested in it.

I wonder if she has stated otherwise.

She's paying for the dates, he's barely communicating and sex only 1 time in 10 months? This is just odd.

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Odd to you. The poor guy is probably still baffled she likes him and holds back in expressing it [Libran way].

I log on just to say i agree to cajun...i am a september second decan too so i relate wHat he had said above..in a relationship, balance is also important...we have to look our selF too to sEe if we are doing the right towrds our love one...if you wnt to work out ur relationship with him talk to him and tell him all about whAt u want in a relationship so he'll know what to do..

Posted by ellessque
"My Mercury in Libra will also not allow me to suggest places."

good to know. I just thought it was a hint of indecisiveness.

I don't like people who call the shots all the time, I find that pig headed.

Let me hear what you have to say, then I will say what I have to say, then we come to a decision. Democracy.

@cajunspirit : "I don't like people who call the shots all the time, I find that pig headed.

Let me hear what you have to say, then I will say what I have to say, then we come to a decision. Democracy."

i thought you're accustomed to partner follow your lead/🙂i'm joking/,nice to see the "wind of a change"

Posted by CappyyLuv30

I've been told this by men before "I didn't think you'd be attracted to me".... WHY in the world would a woman reciprocating baffle you?! AND if it does, wouldn't you want to do whatever it takes to not lose the person? Guess this is where the prude part comes in. *scratching head"

This is a trait of the Cardinal woman.

Image is everything, cool and steely on the outside, soft and warm on the inside. Similar to a Virgo man.

The problem is, Cardinal women typically have to go through several bad relationships before they realise that they need to forget their image and present themselves susceptible, communicate their emotions and ALLOW themselves to be taken care of.

Otherwise, they just play "I'm a strong bitch and I don't need you, your help or your love" then go cry to their friends or worst case scenario the guy who's going to take advantage of them when their image is down.

CRY to the one you love.
EXPRESS what you want to them.
COMMUNICATE your thoughts and ideas if you want to make it ahead.

Stop with the damn "I can do it myself".

Posted by CappyyLuv30

That's why I'm saying WHY would that baffle you....that someone likes you back....that's a good thing, isn't it? That's what I meant in the original post that's quoted up there. Wouldn't a woman reciprocating be good instead of baffling? And wouldn't you want to embrace that and not lose it? Guess that's what I'm trying to understand.

Of course is the answer.

However, as you stated yourself. Men often DID NOT pick up on your indications that you liked them. At no point did you say that you have the "I can do it myself" attitude, neither did you allude to it.

The thing is, this is just how cardinal women ARE. They give off the image and even though you reciprocrate, God bless you, the interested party just end up confused.

"Fuck scorpio women. Rush Limbaugh and Ashton Kutcher."

LOL What ARE we gonna do with ye man?

Posted by domino_O

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by LibraLove

4. P-Angel, I think it's incredibly presumptuous and self-assured of you to twist my words, misinterpret my situation and act so aggressively when I'm merely asking for advice. It's easy to say I'm victimizing myself when you don't hear his side, that I understand, but I'm not here for sympathy--I'm here for the same great advice (minus the uppity interjectory by individuals such as yourself) that I've been receiving from this site since I began posting in September.

I seriously have a hard time with stupid people ... you are the one who said you don't love him .. no twisting.

It's not my problem you can't the truth.

Did she just accidentally coca cola bottle?

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I'm really glad you just made that reference right now.

Mmmmm overbust corset, thigh high black stockings, 4" heels sound about right? I'll even bust out the red lipstick.

Nice, nice. See you at 6, don't be late.

I see when people started agreeing with me, the Libra stfu.


She doesnt' love him .. she has been sitting on this fence, while expecting him to move mountains to prove to her that he cares for her, while she doesn't even want to love him.


And when the truth hits her in the face, she calls it an attack.


You can put make up on, you can lose wieght, you can buy pretty clothes .. but, you can't fix stupid.


::: shrugs :::

So I have been lurking around these parts for about 2 weeks trying to get some insights. I find some advice here really helpful at times. I wasn't going to register but after reading this thread I feel like I have to say something:

Libra Love seems like a really nice, intelligent young girl. I do not understand why some of you have to be so harsh to her. Especially P-Angel. P-Angel there seems no need to be so crass, you could state your point without being overly abusive. You seem to have anger issues and would not be surprised if you were some old frustrated lady and resent the fact that there are young beautiful women out there who still have their whole life in front of them. Your jealousy is pretty obvious. I would expert someone your age to act with more dignity, and the way you write and iteract with people here really put your own intelligence in question.

LibraLove, my advice. Talk to him about what is bothering you and also ask him what he would like to improve. Also try fixing the sex. Just because it didn't work so well at first doesn't mean you can't improve it by 100% if you both try and are open about it. Communication is the key. If talking doesn't work well then you can reconsider. In my experience opening the card has always worked. If the other person doesn't respond to your communication attempts, well then there only seems to be trouble to come and you are better off going your separate ways.