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Damn, can't see those spelling/grammar mistakes.


You seem to have anger issues and *I* would not be surprised if you were some old frustrated lady *who resents* the fact that there are young beautiful women out there who still have their whole life in front of them. Your jealousy is pretty obvious. I would 8expect* someone your age to act with more dignity, and the way you write and *interact* with people here really puts your own intelligence in question.

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Fuck you, bitch .. is that nice enough for you?


You are a newbie ... you don't know anything.



If YOU had half a brain .. you'd realize that 10 months is long enough to try the communication theory. I guess I will have to tell you, since you can't "get it" on your own, Athena .. Virgos are all about communicating, are they not? Don't you think that he's tried to get at least one point across to her during this period?

If two people are relating and it is lacking in substance (which it obviously is or it wouldn't have dwindled down to him barely even noticing she's alive), then wouldn't logic tell you (if you even possess any logic) that him being a Virgo that HE FUCKING TRIED TO GET THROUGH TO HER FUCKING BRAIN?


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And second, wouldn't logic tell you (if you even have any logic) .... that if a man barely even notices you are alive after 10 months .. then you are suppose to be moving the fuck on .. not in here or any other forum, crying about how to find more ways to kiss his feet to get him to appreciate how well you can breathe with your head stuck up his butt.


Seriously ... are you really that stupid, Athena?
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I think it's air people .... I truly believe that they are missing some neurons that connect the hemispheres because they will be completely oblivious to being treated like dog shit, and continue to stay up a man's butt for all eternity.



There have been quite a few of Libras, Aquas, and Gems do this ... especially Geminis. There's one lady in here who is still waiting FAITHFULLY for a guy to notice that the reason why she's loyal to him is because she likes him ..... and he barely notices she's alive ... and it's been like 3 years.
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Posted by athena78
Damn, can't see those spelling/grammar mistakes.


You seem to have anger issues and *I* would not be surprised if you were some old frustrated lady *who resents* the fact that there are young beautiful women out there who still have their whole life in front of them. Your jealousy is pretty obvious. I would 8expect* someone your age to act with more dignity, and the way you write and *interact* with people here really puts your own intelligence in question.




And you seem to have stupidity issues if you actually believe that after 10 months, this Virgo has talked to her about what he wants out of a relationship, as you counseled her to do.

do you even realize that if this dude actually wanted her, then he's act like it?


I thought not ... because if you realized it, then you would have talked like you realized it.
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@Cajunspirit: "The problem is, Cardinal women typically have to go through several bad relationships.."
i see...few frogs,before the prince to come🙂

".. before they realise that they need to forget their image and present themselves susceptible, communicate their emotions and ALLOW themselves to be taken care of."
You wouldn't like to be "emasculated" /ballance of the opposites/ at the "home" arena too?

"CRY to the one you love.
EXPRESS what you want to them.
COMMUNICATE your thoughts and ideas if you want to make it ahead."
Is this a guaranteed recipe for happiness?🙂
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"treetrunk you, cookiemonster .. is that nice enough for you?"

😄 I guess this is this objective honest communication Ellesque was talking about.

"You are a newbie ... you don't know anything."

Well I might be new to this site but I m definately not new to this world...

I don't think that there is really enough information to make the assessment you are making P-Angel. 10 months is a long time but the reality of the matter is that people can live together and not communicate for far longer. Who knows why he is acting aloof... there isn't really enough info to work with. And your argument that he's a virgo and doesn't care about her coz he doesn't act it well... i don't think that commonly people of that sign have any problem in telling someone they are not interested yet alone keep up a relationship they are not into.

Libra Love might be here trying to find answer because she wants to make her relationship work. I find that quite mature and a sign that she cares a lot about this guy. She might have idealized notions of relationships but hey it's her first one and I find it remarkable that she isn't just giving up when things get hard.

"how well you can breathe with your head stuck up his butt."
LOL.

Peace.

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Thank you, athena!! And everybody else who has taken the time to offer advice--including, P-Angel.

I need to clear some things up about what happened when we first had sex. This took place just a little over a month ago, and since then, though, we haven't had sex, we've continued to be intimate in other ways. When we did have sex, afterwards he seemed very upset with himself. He wanted my first time to be nothing short of perfect, and of course, it wasn't. It was horribly painful and slightly awkward. However, *I* expected this. And had reassured him countless times before (and after) that this is how I anticipated my first time to be. Yet, he still was bothered by the fact that he was responsible for me feeling pain.

Okay, I apologize for getting into tmi mode, but he is really well-endowed and 6'3", while I have quite a small frame and stand at 5'4". Initially, it seemed like nothing fit together, and in an attempt to lighten the mood, I just said "uh-oh, looks like it's not gonna fit!" This remark, though seemingly insignificant to me, made a big impact on him. Afterwards, he told me it made him upset. I think part of the reason he doesn't want to have sex is because he's worried he'll hurt me again. That seemed to have caused the preliminary distance.

Also, to give an update on what's been happening, I've been very busy with school and midterms, so I haven't had a chance to speak with him in person yet. In fact, I took time to deliberate over what I wanted to say and how to say it, and in that time he seemed to have sensed me distancing myself. He's continually been texting me and suggesting to hangout. We were supposed to meet yesterday, but I was in such a dizzying bad mood that I figured it'd be best to not say anything when my emotions seemed especially unbalanced. I told him "I'm in a really weird mood today, so I'm just going to go home after class" and he told me that he hopes I feel better. As of then, he's continued to text me first, but he still stinks at responding to texts. It's trite, but little things like that drive me mental! One thing that I'm going to bring up when I do talk to him is how much I absolutely HATE when he says he'll text or call, and then doesn't! Don't say you're going to do those things out of obligation, if you have no intention of really doing them. I'd much prefer a person to not say anything than to promise something they don't act on.

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Anyhow, I really do want to work things out with him. Though the emotional is challenging at times, we connect on a cerebral level that I've found unmatched in others. I love being able to discuss philosophy and politics with someone who's intellectually open and doesn't possess a haughty attitude in regards to such topics. He seems to like it too since he'll tell me that he likes that I teach him new things and am able to hold a conversation with him. I just wish he were as fluent in expressing his feelings towards our relationship as he is telling me about world affairs.

But alas, as 25th has mentioned numerous times, things aren't all rainbows and butterflies...and fuck Scorpion bitches. The latter half being the most integral to maintaining any good relationship 😉
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Posted by domino_O
Posted by LibraLove
Yet, he still was bothered by the fact that he was responsible for me feeling pain.




Sorry princess, the world doesn't revolve around you. It's tough, but it is a fact of live. The amount of "you have done nothing wrong" is sickening.
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What...are you talking about? He said he felt really bad that he caused me to hurt. What does that have to do anything with the world revolving around me?
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Posted by caribbeangold
meh
libra - too relationship oriented and cant be alone

now, op has scorpio venus...nevermind...no need to say anything. 😛
she will twist things to make it seem like everything is ok and will have a hard time letting him go even if he is not/she is not the best for her/him


Considering the fact that I was single up until now, save for a very short-lived relationship 3 years ago, would dispute the fact that Libras can't be alone.

If anything, until I met my bf, I really had no desire to be in a relationship at all.
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Yet, he still was bothered by the fact that he was responsible for me feeling pain.



Sorry princess, the world doesn't revolve around you. It's tough, but it is a fact of live. The amount of "you have done nothing wrong" is sickening.


What...are you talking about? He said he felt really bad that he caused me to hurt. What does that have to do anything with the world revolving around me?



Cause you claimed it was "fact". 😉
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Well, when he explicitly TOLD me that it hurt him to hurt me, I don't understand how that wouldn't be a fact. Even if he didn't really feel that way, FACT IS, he told me did.

Yikes, some of you are really fixated on twisting my words.
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Posted by LibraLove
I just said "uh-oh, looks like it's not gonna fit!" This remark, though seemingly insignificant to me, made a big impact on him. Afterwards, he told me it made him upset. I think part of the reason he doesn't want to have sex is because he's worried he'll hurt me again. That seemed to have caused the preliminary distance.



I went through the same thing, my first time.

I was trying to position up and she quipped "Honey! Just forget about it! Go with the flow"
That pissed me off to high hell and thoroughly ruined the experience.
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Posted by Cajunspirit
Posted by LibraLove
I just said "uh-oh, looks like it's not gonna fit!" This remark, though seemingly insignificant to me, made a big impact on him. Afterwards, he told me it made him upset. I think part of the reason he doesn't want to have sex is because he's worried he'll hurt me again. That seemed to have caused the preliminary distance.



I went through the same thing, my first time.

I was trying to position up and she quipped "Honey! Just forget about it! Go with the flow"
That pissed me off to high hell and thoroughly ruined the experience.
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May I ask why it ruined the experience? I didn't intend on what I said to be interpreted as critical, but I wonder if that's how he took it. I apologized that what I said upset him and explained that it was just to ease the tension, but still. Hmm.
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Posted by TyDyed

LL: Well, for a multitude of reasons.

I don't know if you're being for real... and I honestly couldn't give a rats-ass!

But... some of what you relate rings true for what I went through with my Libra.

Y'all may be able to make this work, but I predict both of you will regret it if you do.


Hopefully we won't regret it. But I try to treat life as a series of experiences I can learn from, and this one has already taught me a lot.
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Shut the fuck up Domino. She's asking for advice. Not your dumb negativity. You think you're smart? You're a moron who is highlighting things in her sentence like it's some school assignment where you have to highlight adjectives.

You're probably giving all teh smart people in this forum a brain cramp with your dumbness. Get the fuck out!

Libralove: This is how you deal with losers who don't have any substance in their advice =)
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Libralove, if you think he's worth it then give it another shot. At the same time keep your tolerance level in check. Make sure that if you still don't see an effort from him, then be strong and leave him. Anyone that is so baffling in the start is not worth the trouble. If you've been dating for lets say 3 years, then putting up with some nonsense or discord is worth it. Your attachment to him isn't as strong as it would be lets say in 3 years. So ultimately, anyone who is that problematic at the start is not worth the trouble.
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lol. OH Domino. If I wanted to play lawyer with you I'll bring all your dumbness forward. You have some posts up there that I could quote but I don't have time, and jsut reading them gave me a headache. But i'll tell you what? Scroll up and see how you're highlighting words out of her statements to show her she's full of herself. Now why don't you take my post here and highlight all my "I" "me" "myself" to make me look self-centred too. Oh, and good job on identifying my post as my opinion. You get A+ for that.
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Posted by aquarius09
Shut the fuck up Domino. She's asking for advice. Not your dumb negativity. You think you're smart? You're a moron who is highlighting things in her sentence like it's some school assignment where you have to highlight adjectives.

You're probably giving all teh smart people in this forum a brain cramp with your dumbness. Get the fuck out!

Libralove: This is how you deal with losers who don't have any substance in their advice =)


haha thanks, sweetheart! For me, it's easier to ignore him. If I wanted to play with a 20 year-old troll, I'd dig through my toy box.
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Posted by aquarius09
Libralove, if you think he's worth it then give it another shot. At the same time keep your tolerance level in check. Make sure that if you still don't see an effort from him, then be strong and leave him. Anyone that is so baffling in the start is not worth the trouble. If you've been dating for lets say 3 years, then putting up with some nonsense or discord is worth it. Your attachment to him isn't as strong as it would be lets say in 3 years. So ultimately, anyone who is that problematic at the start is not worth the trouble.


I agree with what you're saying. I just want to try to work things out so I won't regret not having made an effort later on. If nothing changes, then there's no point in staying. Or if the change isn't long-term, I'd leave as well.
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Posted by Amandus
I feel like there is a tremendous gap between you and him that you haven't bothered to close yet.

But the thing that bothers me most is that you walked into a relationship with him with no love for him.

It actually hurt me when you said you didn't love him.

How can that work? How can a spark transpire when there was never any flame to begin with?


Who said there was never any flame? Most relationships that I know don't begin with love; it's something that develops over time. Those first few stages are mostly lust. As I mentioned "I don't love him yet." "Yet" being integral to my statement. For me, it's not unusual to not be in love with somebody at first sight, but I do find it unusual to not have those feelings after the amount of time we've been together.
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Okay, remember how I mentioned he's strangely intuitive? Last week, we were going to a friend's going-away party and the roads were SO slippery. The party was at a fancy venue, so everyone was dressed-up despite the weather. I was wearing heels and asked to hold on to him, but he just hung his head low and raced across the street without looking back. This bothered me, and was something I planned to bring up when I confront him. I just suddenly get a text telling me "I understand all your fears now, I slipped on ice on the walk home and fell down! It was terrible! I never want you to experience this trauma, so hold on to me whenever you have your slippery shoes on."
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Posted by LibraLove

May I ask why it ruined the experience? I didn't intend on what I said to be interpreted as critical, but I wonder if that's how he took it. I apologized that what I said upset him and explained that it was just to ease the tension, but still. Hmm.



It isn't so much "critical" it was just interpreted negatively.
What you said was not interpreted as a "easing the tension", it was interpreted negatively.

Libras have a talent with sarcasm and their emotionless tones of voice can sometimes carry over the wrong meaning, this is what I suspect.

We are sensitive, unfortunately... and when in a situation of such intimacy pulling away, rejection or witty quips WILL be interpreted negatively. His reaction you described compounds this.
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Posted by LibraLove

Okay, remember how I mentioned he's strangely intuitive? Last week, we were going to a friend's going-away party and the roads were SO slippery. The party was at a fancy venue, so everyone was dressed-up despite the weather. I was wearing heels and asked to hold on to him, but he just hung his head low and raced across the street without looking back. This bothered me, and was something I planned to bring up when I confront him. I just suddenly get a text telling me "I understand all your fears now, I slipped on ice on the walk home and fell down! It was terrible! I never want you to experience this trauma, so hold on to me whenever you have your slippery shoes on."




You're so full of shit .. every person who has ever had a Virgo care about them, knows full well that he will aid his lady .. because being in service of the one they care for is what defines the Virgo.

Your bullshit smell is getting stronger.
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question:

@ cajunspirit: "I went through the same thing, my first time.
I was trying to position up and she quipped "Honey! Just forget about it! Go with the flow"
That pissed me off to high hell and thoroughly ruined the experience."

i'm just curious...why do you perceive such moment like a failure in your "performance"?
it's a contact with alive human being and for the first time perhaps it's normal.
Gaining more experience allowes you to turn the act in an unique well designed programme.

P.s:it will be interesting as well,how the rest virgo people's point of view?
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Posted by quo vadis?

i'm just curious...why do you perceive such moment like a failure in your "performance"?
it's a contact with alive human being and for the first time perhaps it's normal.
Gaining more experience allowes you to turn the act in an unique well designed programme.



I did not view it as a failure.
I viewed it as negative comment at a time of high sensitivity.
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Holy crap it's been getting ugly in this thread. Just wanted to say a couple of things to LibraLove and a few things out in the open.

Nobody should think they can call BS about the banter during your first time. That's yours to remember however it happened. Mine was light-hearted and joking (to help ease her pain). She's allowed to say whatever she wants during that time regardless of how many she's sampled. Like a girl has to only have sex to judge the size of her man's ding dong. Cuz porn movies didn't exist 10 months ago.

LibraLove If you think love grows over time, then fine. Do you even see it moving in that direction with your Virgo guy? Be honest with yourself and ask if you are "trying" to make love out of intellectual good times? I believe more in knowing. You just know if it's meant to be. A hunch. A spark. If it meets the qualifications I listed in Elle's thread about Virg/Scorp compatability then you have found "the one". If you are not sure, then maybe he's just the one to stimulate you intellectually and the one that took your virginity. From a guy's viewpoint V girls are high up on the pedestal when it comes to getting in bed with, but nobody wants a relationship with them because the clingy factor is almost off the scale. I mean no ill-intent from that, that's just literally how guys talk.

In his defense about the texting, people are busy. And for someone to complain about lack of communication when texting itself IS a form of a lack of communication is just selfish. We've made communication convenient while destroying the objective of it; actually talking with someone. Sometimes if you want to make your point, drive out and let him hear your voice and see your face when conveying your message. It will mean som much more than a few x's and o's with one of the many forms of a stupid smiley at the end.

In general it sounds like you're on the fence and waiting for a sign that this is love. I think it's sh1t or get off the pot time. But again don't make it out to be something it's not. You'll know the feeling. I'll go find my list of qualities and post them below for you; see if any of them fit your situation. Hope any of this helps.

P.S. This is an advice section. ANYONE NOT OFFERING CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM THAT MAY AID IN THE POSTERS JUDGEMENT ON A SITUATION MAY TAKE UP RESIDENCY ON YOUTUBE WHERE TROLLING AND PUTDOWNS RUN RAMPANT AND YOUR NEW BATTLECRY WILL BE FAKE & GAY FROM NOW ON. Please guys.
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This was originally written for Ellesque so it's got her name in it. replace it with yours 😉 duh

1.) Do you feel like you can be yourself around this person? Can you open up, shut down, laugh, talk, scream, joke, fart, whatever makes you Elle, can you be all that at once?

2.) Do you get the vibe that this person accepts you for being yourself? Are you comfortable being yourself around them and not have to worry about what you say and how you word it? Do you feel genuinely accepted for all your faults, talents and quirks?

3.) Are you attracted to them? And this is FAR from the physical aspect (Though good looks are such an added bonus). But I look at a female as sexy if they have a certain zest for life that I do not possess. Basically if they excel somewhere I cannot, I admire that and am attracted to them more because of it.

4.) Do you feel you can accomplish anything when you're with that person? Can you overcome your fears and shortcomings and let it all out and let it all go. Does this person build you up enough to make you want to be a better person?
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"Cuz porn movies didn't exist 10 months ago"



You forgot to add that those porn movies that didnt' exist 10 months, at the end, if you watch the credits .. they have images of men standing next to each other with hard ons so women can use it for measuring to see if their men are well-endowed.


However, you are quite wrong .. there were porn movies before 10 months ago .. however, women had to get their man to stand next to the TV with hard ons and wait for an opportunity to compare the porn stars dick with her mans dick .. and she had to be quick because they didn't have "pause" back then. 😢