Deep question

Is it possible some one can have so much impact on you that you start doing every thing that person says/does? Basically, you just follow each and every word/move/ style /food/hobbies of THAT PERSON for what s/he says/does etc.

In particular - virgos? Do you ever do so? Is there any one in that sitution?
Suppose you do follow some one via behavioral change, is it respect or love or friendship or both or what is it?

Do you ever realize that the other person can be scared of your so much "admiration" or "frekiness"??

What kind of phychological impact is this? Is this good/bad/or sign of weakness or what—

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I am going in deep thinking.. So do you - all, before responding.

Is it possible some one can have so much impact on you that you start doing every thing that person says/does? Basically, you just follow each and every word/move/ style /food/hobbies of THAT PERSON for what s/he says/does etc.

This person called doormat, this is not possible with Virgoes if you actually know Virgos " like you brag about it all the times..".

what kind of ?psychological? impact is this? Is this good/bad/or sign of weakness or what—

I don't know about bad or good of this kind of situation, some people are leaders and some are not, some are freedom lovers some are not.

The other sign that can not be controlled even remotely are Aqua people, that's why Virgos and Aquas always are in trouble... always.

"Is it possible some one can have so much impact on you that you start doing every thing that person says/does? Basically, you just follow each and every word/move/ style /food/hobbies of THAT PERSON for what s/he says/does etc."


Absolutely, CapGirl .. my Virgo husband mirrors everything I do .. he has changed everything about himself to like/dislike everything I do.

Everything .... food, music, hobbies, topics of conversation .. he even mimicks my movements, how I walk, dance, laughs

PA:

In that case, how do you personally feel? Do you like it or some times you do and sometime you do not.

What do you think is a physchological reason behind it?

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Most of the time I don't like it at all ... other times, I detest it because I'm all about being real, and I view this as the complete opposite.

But, at the same time, I recognize that this is the Virgo way .. this is normal for them to reflect everything .. so, I don't bitch about it too often. I can tell you, it was the main factor in ceasing our sex life together. Being a Fish .. imagination/creativity is one of driving forces .. so, for me to be truly happy, I need somebody who can express their own desires for me to act on.

It's a very difficult union in these terms. I've maintained all along and will continue to do so ... Virgo's don't "feel", they copy their partners feelings. The downside is that this makes them easily manipulated .... and one of the main reasons why I always ride on the ass of Cancers when they come in here with their manipulation tatics when trying to catch a Virgo. These men are handicapped in the relationship department, and HAVE to have a strong, decent woman who won't lead them in the wrong direction.

Capgirl .. this is them, this is who they are. They have to be led in a partnership. Because I'm a Pisces, I can fully comprehend being disconnected from feelings because I am capable of disconnecting at any time I choose .. so, I truly understand that these people are ALWAYS disconnected emotionally.

They don't know how to connect .. so, they can only follow.

He can't help it, CapGirl .. none of them can.

Is your man becoming you, too?

Being a Fish .. imagination/creativity is one of driving forces ..

Was that all..??

>> my Virgo husband mirrors everything I do .. he has changed everything about himself to like/dislike everything I do.

Everything .... food, music, hobbies, topics of conversation .. he even mimicks my movements, how I walk, dance, laughs

And then?

>> Virgo's don't "feel", they copy their partners feelings



Now tell me, what kind of guarantees you've got for what you've just said above comes not from your imaginative/creative drive.. ?


Lmao..

Damn, everyone knows that being manipulative is one of the main drives in ?water creatures? generally and worst with FISHES ?the universe chameleons.

And you still claming that your hubby copycatting your stuff..??

BULLSHIT?!

The last sign of the zodiac, that walked in every other sign's shoes at least once, but freak enough to call the others copycatting their crap..

"What kind of phychological impact is this?"


CapGirl .. I think this is why the importance is put so much on sex. It doesn't happen in here as much as the Scorpio board, and mainly with the female V's ... but, when their relationship has turned bad, they freak out about the guy stop sleeping with them. The guy is usually a complete tosser .. using her for money, a roof over his head, takes huge advantage of her .. and the only thing she freaks out about is that he doesn't want sex, and she'll go on and on about if he would just sleep with her again, then all would be fine.

This is a psychological consequence of mimicking the partner in terms of "love" ... because sex is an expression of "love", and not the love, itself, and because they can only mirror feelings back ..... they are terribly confused into believing that the "sex" is the love.


They truly don't know the difference, and this gets validated in here repeatedly.

The other sign that can not be controlled even remotely are Aqua people, that's why Virgos and Aquas always are in trouble... always.


well then stop trying to control us. Maybe then we won't be in trouble. =P

Virgogotme.

Hey Q....caught that too, and joining in w/ a snicker, it definitely calls for repasting...typical.

Bring a club please and thanks for joining in...

I mean, who in the right mind would ever take those ?stupid statements above? seriously and take in it as an advice..??

The old bat is either on crack or vodka or something..!

I am glad that I am not the only one who is against on this ?old fishfuck? crap.

Well both Aquas, and Virgos don't really have the desire to control or use another person: but don't misunderstand, it's ususally with these two that the worst and often most 'disillusioned' people are born, and the amount of selfishness and cold-heartedness comes from the level of disillusionment experienced.

Both signs are content to remain to their own devices, so, I wouldn't say they we're followers, but I'd say this is especially true for Virgo BECAUSE Virgo isn't swayed by the common herd (becuase Virgo sets up barriers making certain it understands what is YOU and THEM)....because Virgos are so firmly stuck on 'what they believe is right' in anycase it's really a 50/50 chance at transformation or destruction....but Virgo is a logical sign, so really it depends on what the Virgo wants..

I believe this is where the regenerative/healing aspect of the sign comes in: Virgo is the sign of purity, and ideally should focus on keeping some part of the self 'intact' despite worldly wounds....no matter how far gone a Virg is, they find a way out....

well if the virgo puts up a facade, then they'll always have a way out. Cause they were never their true self to begin with.=P

Even my own husband admitted to me when he puts up a facade. he only admits things when I suffer in our arguments, btw..

To me, that is disrespectful to put up a facade. what happened to the virgo motto "Just be yourself"..ya'll tell everyone else to do it all the time.

VE, now how do you coax/help a virgo to Transform..truly transform rather than self-destruct? X_X

Is your man becoming you, too?
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PA the honest answer would be YES!!! (Of course except for dressing 😉...

Now - I feel it OK with that, BUT....I wonder is he considering me as a role model or an object of affection or what— I have to find the correct answer.

What amazes/confuses me is this- he is so capable at work and has lots of people under his command and his job is of an extremely careful and responsible nature. That person who commands every one and takes important great decisions him self and for others, and lots of people respect him so much, THAT PERSON IS MIRRORING ME!? Why? Or is an error in my perception? For sure it is not- he is using my words, my style , my attitude, my way of thinking, my food habits, my hobbies, my EVERY THING!!! How could I have such an influence on some one like him? He is very lerned, scholar, educated , balanced, smart, intelligent and on and on and on.... How can an intelligent person do such things as mirroring me?

Some where I read, when in love we behave like stupids! So may be it is that??!!!!

This is so over whelming that I am thinking why did I meet him years back?? None my things are under control any more and I HATE it loosing control.!!!!!






I asked him DIRECTLY, he just smiled! No answer. So not sure what to conclude.

"THAT PERSON IS MIRRORING ME!? Why? Or is an error in my perception? For sure it is not- he is using my words, my style , my attitude, my way of thinking, my food habits, my hobbies, my EVERY THING!!!"


I know .. I live it everyday.

None my things are under control any more and I HATE it loosing control.!!!!!

Hahha I love it. Submit!!!


Okay okay okay. Allow me to play devil's advocate. Have you adopted any of this mannerisms, habits, thoughts, etc into your own? The reason I ask is that part of "having someone so dear in your life" is that they have impact on you as a person. With that said, is it so unheard of to adapt / learn from this person who means so much to you?

Hahha I love it. Submit!!!
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OK SUBMITTED!!!!
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Have you adopted any of this mannerisms, habits, thoughts, etc into your own?

Actually, I analyzed myself. YES, I hava adopted many of his ways... BUT not as many as he has adopted mine..It may be because I am in denial while I might have done the same.
I think though, he has adopted much more than me!!!!

Looks like he is becoming me and I am becoming him!!! He is learning my work stuff and I have strated "interfering" his work stuff - though I am not capable of that! I am reading his long and boring journals and he is admiring kids, dogs and flowers!!

Bottom line is, I have started to think using mind and he has started to think using heart!

What an achievement!Of course MINE! Because to make you guys sensible is almost impossible! and the wait and time spent on him while giving him his "space"—

I can't believe the things I am reading here about virgos....we're the "worst" and "destructive." We are not "mirroring" or "copying." Our nature is peaceful, progressive, productive, and we like to synthesize or combine, to bring things together. To make things flow smoother. We naturally pick up on others ways, means of communicating, and we subconsciously use them to better understand and communicate with that person. It is a force of nature. It is not phony. We are being ourselves! This is how we are. People who don't understand us, assume we are phony and not being ourselves. We are also a mutable sign. We can also see many sides to a situation. We keep what others may refer to as a "distance" sometimes which makes us appear cold. Imagine for a moment if you were a surgeon in an ER. You have to be objective with a clear head because at any given moment a patient may need your urgent care. We are always awaiting an urgency that needs our attention. We cannot clutter our minds with what we see as mindless and idle things going on around us. We're not into gossip. We're not into making others feel bad. We're not into wasting our energies which may be needed in a crisis on things like, "OMG, did you hear what so and so did...." This is foolish and shallow and of low mentality in our eyes. So, if you think this is cold or heartless, or whatever other misinterpretation you have concluded, then look in the mirror and know that Virgos are the deepest most concentrating individuals you will ever know. Only people of similar depth have an understanding of our inner nature. Shallow people will never understand our motivations.

wished the virgo I was married too did sometimes follow my instructions, but he has difficulty with that.
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scorp:: I find this funny.. Ya once they becomes "husbands" they have trouble to follow our instructions.

We naturally pick up on others ways, means of communicating, and we subconsciously use them to better understand and communicate with that person.

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virgo heart:: I read your post twice. I do not mean to say you guys are "destructive" or "worst" for I know most of you DO NOT fall in that category. I do not mean to portrait it as phony. I am trying to understand the true meaning of it, whether it is good or bad.

If you would like, please elaborate more on:
"We naturally pick up on others ways, means of communicating, and we subconsciously use them to better understand and communicate with that person."

What do you mean by understand and communicate with that person. Can't you use words to communicate? Is it the subtle way of you folks trying to tell something and make the other person lead you to open up? What is still left to understand after knowing a person for years? I am confused now.

Thanks

Imagine for a moment if you were a surgeon in an ER. ....
This is foolish and shallow and of low mentality in our eyes.
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Virgoheart: Let me imagine, you might be an ER surgeon. In that case, are you like most other surgeons with "God Complex"??

I ask because most surgeons have this complex and they are extremely arrogant,impossible to live with. They would never like to admit, but that's how we , probably "low mentality" people perceive them. How I know of this? One of my friend's brother is in Med school. He was deciding in early years if he wanted to be a surgeon. He went to the OR one day as a part of finding that out, and when he came home his face was so upset,sad and, the only thing he told us was "I never want to be a surgeon" and left the room. Why? His dad had asked later on, answer was the operating surgeon that day was a jerk to work with and had attitude problem. Later on some other friends described what really goes into those ORs with nurses and all. U know what I mean. Surgeons generally think they are above every one. My point is, if you folks are trained for many years - most time until half of the life is gone you folks do not even start making money- you guys better perform well after so much training. In IT we need to keep upto date for latest technology, some times by self training, it is not like doing the same type of surgery for years and claiming to be God or above the God.

Point is, I do not consider any one shallow or below me, I actually talk and trust "lower mentality" people more because they are generally never appreciated or under appreciated.
ie. HR people.

I guess working under those 4 walls, makes one unaware of how the world works.

Hopefully I have not misunderstood any thing. I believe, education is something that can be taught to people and people can learn and be a surgeon or CEO, if they are given enough resources and time. We can't teach attitude or humanity basics by education or for that matter no descrimination of any one based on education/race/religion/financial status or any thing else...I believe there are lots of people out there that are much smarter than us but were not lucky enough to get right resources at right time. That does not make me any smarter than them or does not make them inferior than me.

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Now I do not mean all are same, but the fact is most surgeons are that way.

Have I "misunderstood" something here?

caprigirlwithvirgo: I guess I need to explain more. Virgos are receptive in nature. We "take everything in." We are also very detail oriented....we pick up on the small details....in our environment and in the people around us. We do this naturally. Everyone has a different method of sending and receiving information. In order for us to "communicate" we have to understand the method of communication being used by the other person, and then we can use that same method to send information back. Like two computers using the same program language. This is done subconsciously. But it happens naturally. Some virgos may not even realize they are doing it. My analogy of the surgeon has nothing to do with a god complex. I worked for a surgeon, a Gemini, and yes he was very tough and direct and I asked him why, being in the healthcare profession, many medical people were so "cold" and he explained that in medical school they treated them very badly, like in the military, so that they could be tough to somewhat disassociate themselves with the emotional pain in connection with losing patients, etc. They have a god complex I suppose because they do have the ability to save people which gives them a greater sense of power over others. This has more so to do with the EGO however. Virgos I feel are more aware of the "behind the scenes" of human nature. They can pick up on others insecurites, phoniness, B.S., etc. Not even trying to do so. The problem is that in communicating these perceptions to others, it is difficult. We may express our opinions in our own "scientific" sort of way, because it is an analysis. Now, on the other hand, because we are able to do this "analysis," we do not incorporate our own feelings into the data we use to analyze, and therefore our own feelings get pushed back and even hidden from the situation. If someone does us wrong, through analysis, we justify their behavior. Don't get me wrong, we won't let people walk all over us. If someone does us wrong, we analyze the behavior, justify the situation, and cut off all ties. Our emotions get pushed down. It does not mean we are smarter. If we were so smart, we'd all be rich and never get hurt. Everyone was born with different abilities to be used to benefit the whole of the universe. People usually come to me for logical advise, solutions to legal problems, etc. Not for relationship advice since I tend analyze using logic which is not good.

Regarding your comment that we don't make money until half our life is gone: First of all, I have always made money. I have never lived off anyone since I was 16 and I'm 36 now. Virgos are very independent and have a hard time relying on anyone. We tend to take jobs however, instead of working for ourselves because most are not great risk takers. Half-way through life, we realize that taking risks has great rewards. We just need to have more faith in our abilities. Maybe that's just me, but I take more risks now than I ever have. Although I am married now and my husband's income helps give me the opportunity to take more risks. I am an "educated risk taker." I have advised family members in the past when they've come to me for advice and my advice was "not to do what they were considering doing" only for them to go against my advice, fall on their butts financially, and then come back to me for help getting out of the situation. Second, Warren Buffet, a Virgo, is the second richest person in the world according to Forbes magazine, and he started out young. So this doesn't support your theory! Virgos just need to have more faith in themselves and stop listening to everyone elses crap! Its more rewarding, personally and financially!

Regarding your comment that we don't make money until half our life is gone
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Virgoheart : I did not mean virgos do not start earning early in life, I meant that for surgeons. Most doctors waster about half of their life time in studying. I am a big fan of Mr. Buffett who lives in his house he bought for 30K many years ago.

They have a god complex I suppose because they do have the ability to save people which gives them a greater sense of power over others.

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This some how does not convince me for having a God complex. Understood they try to save,I bet none of them will do it for free. If they do in case, it will be for fame and name.

If they are God why haven't they found cure for all diseases that are yet non treatable? Even if they "try" to save using their abilities (achived by wasting many years at school and by being treated like crap in the school), why can't they save ALL patients? In other words, can they reverse the situation when the patient is already dead? NO.

That's exactly where the difference is, only God can make miracles, and surgeons can't. And therefore they ARE *****NOT**** GOD.

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we may express our opinions in our own "scientific" sort of way, because it is an analysis.

HAHAHA This makes me laugh, sorry. Day to day activities of some one must not be sorted out in a scientific way but in a humanly way. That is, not completely blinding your "analysis" by emotions BUT, allowing it in your "analysis" in balanced ways.

As for "scientific analysis", when ever one crucial variable is missing, the research/analysis conclusion is WRONG. Since you folks forget to consider emotinal variable of utmost important for human activities, any and all conclusions you draw out of that analysis are WRONG! Humans are not rebots and hence emotions do play a very important role in their liking/dis liking of you / making any judgement.

I recommand you catch a movie "I robot" in that the robot had emotions too. In fact in our world of artifical intelligence, scientists are trying to create a robot with emotions by understanding human nature/emotions etc. That's where the difference is, between virgo community and the rest of the world.

Looks like he is becoming me and I am becoming him!!!

capri, I am in the same situation..all of a sudden my husband is starting be like me in certain ways too..

I think you are on to something capri.

I think you are on to something capri.
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RC...
What do you mean by that? Please elaborate that more!
U mean some thing good or bad?

These virgo creatures do keep our minds very busy!

well for example.

he curses A LOT. Me, hardly ever,in fact, I hate doing it...

I find myself doing a little too often now, and to the wrong people. But what is more unique about it is the fact..they're not just any curse words..they are specifically the ones that he uses on a regular basis and not anyone else's that I know of.

in turn, he has cut back on his cursing and has reacted in calm, thoughtful way, like I usually do and then also he resists the urge to hurt someone knowing it's not worth it..something he never did in the past. X_X And for some reason I feel like hurting someone too, however, I have only cursed and hurt them with words instead fighting, but in my mind, the thought of hurting someone physically keeps coming up over and over, rather than being kind...X_X

so it's like we've switched attitudes or something.

maybe the more I become like him, the more he'll become like me, or vice versa.

Maybe I or we should try an experiment...

what I was thinking I would do is..everything I want him change like for ex. the music and the kind of movies he watches ( I hate it)

maybe if I decide to like these things, maybe he will start to hate these things....

and maybe if I decide I should talk to a whole bunch of ex's and guys that like me, maybe he won't do it anymore..

wow..all these ideas are coming to me..this is how Aquas do it though-we have to experiment.

RC:
That would be a head game. I am not into that.
Besides, looks like you misunderstood.
He is picking up my things that I like, not the onces I hate.
I am picking up what he likes and loves not what he hates.

I think two of us (me and him) like each other so much that we like or not we are picking up each other's stuff, sunconciously.

Even if I am up to something, I feel it is good.

We are always awaiting an urgency that needs our attention. We cannot clutter our minds with what we see as mindless and idle things going on around us. We're not into gossip. We're not into making others feel bad.
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Virgoheart: I am confused. You first say you are a surgeon and then you say you are not.
In a post right after that u say you are a woman with your age and all details. I do not think I was interested in knowing personal details, why would u dish out something w/o some one asking?

To me sounds like drawing their attention to some thing else. Just a question, which sign are u married to? and how is it going?

Thanks

capri: I never said I was a surgeon, I was using an analogy....go back and read my post. Possibly you assumed I was. I was trying to state a point but obviously you missed that too....I give details because I am a virgo and that is what we do, sorry if it was not something you wanted to hear...

I am married to a Leo....we are great together....married 10 years...thanks for asking.

so you can stop insulting surgeons GOD complex now...I said I worked FOR a surgeon....

VH:

Thanks for clarification...It's cap's suspecious nature that can't easily trust people. Besides, I am into IT security and networks and it has become a second nature to analyze every one's behavior. I will be honest in telling, you will still be on my radar for any behavioral inconsistency. It's not only IT, sometimes my intuition does better than me.

As for your wedding to a leo, good to hear that it is going great. BTW- my rising sign is Leo and it's not always easy being a cap and leo at the same time, only if you know what I mean.

Any serious cap personality in your life? My life is full of virgos, dad, maternal uncle, relatives, friends and I feel I can't escape them. I have a feeling I will have a virgo child as well!

He is picking up my things that I like, not the onces I hate.
I am picking up what he likes and loves not what he hates.

that is what I'm talking about. you don't get it. it doesn't matter whether either of you like what it is you pick up from each other, the point is, there has been a switch..it's not in the substance that the experiment is based on..it's in the method.

the experiment I'm talking about is the switch in itself. It can be of attitudes, the switch of likes, the switch of dislikes..any of it. It doesn't matter. Yours is the switch of likes and dislikes..I knew that. I was just telling you what ours was.

I'm talking about the SWITCH in itself, not about WHAT it is you're switching. comprende?

I know what I'm talking about though. And I will try the experiment and tell you how it goes.

And I'm not saying it's a "mind game". Because whether we like it or not, the switch happens unconciously as you have already noticed. Right?

and you say "mind game" as if it's a bad thing. Mind games are bad when you seek to control someone. Aquas simply experiment to see how two things become whole and to make sense out of it. Hence, experimenting. Not to control someone.

Your PERCEPTION of my motive behind the experiment is what confused you.

So I will repeat it so your perception is not confused, capri--> This is a "Mind Experiment" NOT a "Mind Game"

perhaps you'll understand me now.

He is picking up my things that I like, not the onces I hate.
I am picking up what he likes and loves not what he hates.


And also, you do understand that when my husband picks up my attitude that he doesn't pick up a bad thing, right? Cause reacting in a calm and thoughtful way is not bad, thinking before you act is not bad at all.

I don't know how you saw it as a bad thing. What I picked up from my husband is a bad thing though. But that is my perception of it. I think that cursing is bad while he may not. And I think that reacting calmly and thinking before you act is good, while he may not..

comprende?

however, it could be just adding rather than switching. Because I could still react calmly and I could also react like he does if I subconciously do so which would be simply adding.

but the switch MIGHT happen, in that, if I get use to doing what he does, I may forget about my old self....and then...one day become him..O_O

but hopefully this whole subconcious thing will stop.

You see the thing is, my husband is different from yours. You and your virgo both pick up good things from each other. While we simply switch bad and good. And sometimes pick up just the good.

I just wish my husband had more good traits that I could pick up from him.

You could always experiment and see if picking up another good trait from your virgo will compel him to pick up another one of yours. Or you could just sit and wait for it to subconsiously happen whether you like it or not.

transformation on any level RC comes from within: it's a willful thing that is dependent on the persons desire to change. There's nothing really you can do to change him...except bringing to his attention what you have trouble accpeting in him.

Ok first of all im a little drunk right now.. 🙂

I like this thread, but all of you keep telling how a virgo behaves. instead of telling how you feel. Are'nt there any virgos here!?

ohh.. and sorry for my bad english 🙂

I have been copying a girlfriends moves, way of talking etc. but i tried to keep it down when i could. 😛 I did it simply of respect and compassion of my love, and to show my feelings for her - virgos! .. 🙂

Peronally i hate when people immitate me, so i try to tell people when i like them instead of immitating and let people belive im manipulating them.. btw she was/is 😛 .. a leo. soif anybody can give their opinion on this there welcome.. 🙂 hope u know what i mean 🙂

As a Virgo, I think if Virgo really falls for someone hard, their emotions run in overdrive and Virgo can move mountains for that person. This may give the person of interest the impression that Virgos are "easy prey," until the Virgo starts to see that the person of interest is taking advantage (relatively speaking) of Virgo, in which case Virgo turns a 180 and can be as cold as ice! We will give everything for the person we "love," but when we realize we were not appreciated, we can be very hard....it hurts us more to have to be hard because we would rather give everything to the one we [thought] we loved and loved us. Don't make the mistake of taking Virgo for granted. You will be surprised!

As for "immitating"....it is not imitating, it is synthesizing....connecting with....we pick up on your form of communication and use it to relate back to you....it's amazing how people perceive our nature...

virgoheart:

I have a feeling I know you. Damn, it.... May be just because I have so many virgos in my life that I feel that way.

Ok... As for "Don't make the mistake of taking Virgo for granted."...

Same goes for Caps too, we are generally nice and sacrifice our personal happiness to clarify things. To the point we might be crying alone, sometimes when no one sees us. But on the surface we may appear very strong, giving, polite AND caring for some one. One day when we do realize, no matter what we do is never going to make the other person happy, we leave and when we do, we never return, no matter how painful it could be for us. We leave quitely with so much pain within us and do not even let that person know how much pain s/he has caused us. We over work to forget that pain to the point we might be working for 22 hours straight to finally crash in the bed to forget it all... Oh well, that's our way, we take it on to us and do not get angry on any one. In fact, when we get extremely unhappy we get funny!

As for synthesizing, WHY and WHEN would you do that? Would you do that when you care for some one or to explore what? Basically when and why do you synthesize?

pick up on your form of communication and use it to relate back to you
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Exactly when and why do you try to relate back to us in our way?
What's the purpose? To impress, to care, to show admiration, to confuse, to manipulate, to play head games (sorry but most virgos are well known for that), to know more of the other person or why and when?

Why don't you folks be more direct to the person and communicate in plain English :-)?

What if what a virgo thinks a mistreatment of them by others, is actually due to no one's fault but due to time only?

What if the virgo's judgement in that one and only most important thing is absolutely wrong? Would it be impossible for him/her to admit the error in judgement? When I am wrong and have caused enormous pain due to my misjudgement, it causes me double pain, infact it will not let me sleep until I convey my sinceresy apology to the person I caused hurt to , intentionally or otherwise.

One more Q:

Exactly when does a virgo feel "appreciated" in real sense? I know they love by head not heart, so is the question. Do they feel appreciated IF we also join them in synthesizing process by doing what they do? Or by responding to their synthesizing by participating with them?

In general I do not prefer participaing in synthesizing as frankly I get annoyed when some when imitates me or synthesizes me too much.
I do not like to be some one's role model upto that extent. On my part that is a big responsibility if some one does every thing I do as if I jump in a well that person might do the same.

Sometimes I wonder great leaders must have been very careful for their
acts, behavior etc. as they must be aware lots of people admire, copy,imitate, synthesize with their thoughts, acts, actions, ideas and in general many more things.They must act right as they are expected to be better than others - always.