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virgo28
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Seriously growing up i thought everyone couldnt stand gemini's because of their chiper persona but then they tend to flip and show you that other side.


Why all the hate on virgo's?

1. We dont sugar coat the truth?
2. we like our space
3. we love to be appreciated
4. make you bastards better people
5. neat
6. funny
7. very intelligent
8 attention to detail is ridiculous
9.commited in relationship weather friendship or romantic
10.common sense (not everyone has this)
11.commitment to excellence (love being a perfectionist)
12. excellent memory ( you bytches continue to try ever virgo's memory)
13. i can go on forever but let's the HATE BEGIN
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I don't hate Virgos .. I don't hate anybody, for that matter. However, I do dislike, or hate even, certain traits or characteristics of all people.

With Virgos, I would wager to guess that the characteristic in which would compell you to make this thread, as well as all the other threads Virgos make that are similar in referencing an unacceptance from others, or a misunderstanding of a Virgos is ... a lack of self-esteem.

This trait bothers the fuck out of me ... and it seems apparant in 99% of Virgos across the board. And I'd be willing to conclude that this is the reason why a Virgo feels hated or unappreciated. To the Virgo, it seems to be all the other people who are hating on you, as their problem for misunderstanding you .. and I don't believe this is the truth.

If you look to others to bring you self worth, so you can feel good about yourself = self esteem ... then you have no recourse except to feel insignifacant within this acceptance or approval because another person cannot direct your value for you.

This is also the reason for the Virgo to go MIA when trying to develop a relationship .. they feel inadequate, and have to analyze exactly why this other person would choose them .. why them? Why not someone better? Am I the best they can get?

When a person displays this kind of lack of self-esteem, virgo28 .. then this is the energy they are projecting out onto others .. which is why they appear so critical of others .. which leads others to reflect back this same kind of energy with defiance because others aren't lacking self-esteem and won't allow a Virgo to project this onto them, as their responsibility to make your world valuable for you.

We don't misunderstand Virgos .. none of us do .. however, we have a hard time understanding why you feel so small in your existance.
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fieryearth
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"This is also the reason for the Virgo to go MIA when trying to develop a relationship .. they feel inadequate, and have to analyze exactly why this other person would choose them .. why them? Why not someone better? Am I the best they can get?"

Really, Virgos think like this?? Well I guess I must be from a different breed...To be honest I am not this way, I feel very much adequate, if anything you could find me guilty of some Leo qualities...

Sometimes I'm confused as to what Virgos you people know because some of the things you guys say are definitely not what I have experienced with virgos...

-- yeah some virgos find it hard to show emotion, but who doesn't. And maybe the way virgos express it is completely different then say a Cancer. But I do believe over time Virgos can and do express emotion more freely.--
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Really, Virgos think like this?? Well I guess I must be from a different breed...To be honest I am not this way, I feel very much adequate, if anything you could find me guilty of some Leo qualities


Yeah, all the ones I know .. and many in here display this, even if they aren't aware they own it. For example: It's not uncommon for a Virgo (mostly females) to come in here and say things like, "why doesn't he want me", "I do everything for him", "What did I do".

This is presenting a mind-set of feeling inferiour .. for it's being taken upon the self to feel like she has done something against his approval/acceptance of her, rather than looking at the angle that counts .. and what counts is his ACTUAL treatment of you according to his behavioural characteristics and whether they are appropriate enough for you ...... it has nothing to do with anything YOU did, or whether YOU are worthy for him .. it's suppose to be the other way around.

Is HE worthy of you .. not you worthy of him. And to have those questions asked .. asking what is wrong with you and why he can't see this or acknowledge this, is something we see on a daily basis in here, and it only means one thing = lacks self-esteem and seeks out approval/acceptance from another to feel valuable.

You are a different breed from your kind, FE .. and there are a few others, such as Virgo_Libra Cusp, and leo/virgo75 ... however, the majority do present this.

The question was asked, why do people hate Virgos .. and I answered as honestly, and directly as I could as an observer of your kind. And that is the reason from where I sit and observe Virgos, generally.

If a person projects this energy .. then this is what comes back. If a person wallows in feeling insignificant, to the point of compelling them to post a thread like this (and there have been many similar) .. then this is their thoughts = this is their reality.
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This is a condition in which is similar to what I posted on the Scorpio board about Scorps having a trust issue within themselves, and so thinking it's other people to whom has to present to them that they are trusting .. when in reality, it's not the other person who has to prove trust .. it's the Scorpio who has the trust problem. Or, on the Pisces board, where I posted that Pisceans believe that other people cannot grasp what we're saying, and we are speaking our minds loud and clear, why the hell can't you understand us? When in reality, we can only "sense" what we want to say, which isn't connected to thought, so our words are as obsure, or non-comprehensible as the doe-doe-bird .. yet, to us, we think it's all of you who have a problem. It's not, it's us .... this is our own issue.

With this .. Virgos own issue in which is projected onto others as if it's belongs to others = they are extremely critical of others worth because they know not that they are actually critical of themselves because they lack the capacity to feel self-worth without approval from another ... in so doing, because their self-worth to form self-esteem has to come from another source because they don't know it's their own problem .. the only logical reaction would be to be overly critical of the other person and their worth, since it's to them that you will put your trust in them to think highly of you, for you.

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However, this being overly critical of the other person isn't for whether they are worthy of you .. rather, whether they are capable in their ability to be confident enough to secure you, for you to feel worth, as regarded from their eyes, for you.

We have a perfect example of this in here with a Virgo lady to whom is going through a battle with a man to whom isn't her boyfriend, nor wants to be her boyfriend .. while she is clinging to the thoughts of ... "why doesn't he want me? I'm a good person. My heart is so misunderstood by him. Why can't he see this?" .. and in this condition in which she is suffering, Virgo style .. she is being critical of his nature in regards to WHY he can't see this in her, what is wrong with HIM.

It's obvious .. predictable .. we can all see it in you ... but, it's out of your senses, your awareness radar because it's your biggest insecurity ... and we cannot acknowledge our insecurities because we believe they belong to the other person.


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h8pisces
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""....and delusional apparently."
Well I can get along with other Pisces (which you dont obviously have). I can do my own business and I sure as hell don't need to prove anything to you (conquest thing).

It is pretty obvious who is delusional here though..."

WHEN DID I EVER SAY I DON'T GET ALONG WITH THEM?!!! READ MY POSTS YOU MORON. I SAID THEY'RE ANNOYING AND NEVER LEAVE ME ALONE. Typical thickheaded pisces. LOL
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While thinking about my Virgo husband (and maybe this is just a man-thing, and not really Virgo specific) .. what I probably get irritated the most with, perhaps bordering hating this trait .... would be not engaging in "wondering" .. only answers.

For example .. we were riding in the car and I was talking about all the tornadoes of late, and saying that their numbers and severity were out of character for this season, and that something is up with the environment .... this was a leading/opening topic to want to discuss about our current weather patterns, and how they are changing, and wanting to talk about different possibilities, or different angles in which to "wonder" .. he had a blunt and official answer and would speak no more. When I started to talk about it again, he got irritated and said he answered my question, what more did I want.

I want to talk about "what if", I want to talk about different ways our weather gets effected from what we do to our environment ... I was trying to engage in conversation .... but, he can only answer, as if I'm asking a question to which needs an answer.

Perhaps, this is more a male thing .... they think that women don't know answers in life and so are asking a man for direction .. who knows. But, this would definitely be thing that I hate in him, and since he's a Virgo, it's possible this trait comes from his sun.

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""fieryearth
Really, Virgos think like this?? Well I guess I must be from a different breed...To be honest I am not this way, I feel very much adequate, if anything you could find me guilty of some Leo qualities...""

Yeah me too.....hahha I don't think anyone hates me.....I'm too loveable to be hated...from my family, to my friends, acquaintainces......I getting people always saying Hi! to me/wanting me to do things with them.....and I get alot of hugs too......so I have no idea what you guys are talking about......must be the Leo qualities coming out too 🙂
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At the end of the day, if that were even true, does it/should it matter to YOU? Being hated is just a stones throw away from being loved....Now, if I'm hated, I can illicit strong reactions in folks that a lesser person couldn't: so why should I be so weak as to be bothered by everyone's reation to me?.....but most importantly, I don't hate myself no matter what anyone else thinks of me....quite frankly who gives a rats' ass if they do? It doesn't stop my show....other people's opinions of me are small potatoes in my book....
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VirgoBeloved
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Heehee, such a funy thing to think of we Virgos as hated.

I am a beautiful, sex, intelligent, loving woman who could not care less if everyone (lol, or really anyone) approves of me.

Sure there are some people who HATE me. Those people have at various times in my life, come to hate me, for things such as:

1. because I do things right and very well (because I work at it!!)
2. because of my intelligence (not only having common sense and street smarts from some wise parents, but also possess 1 Associates, 2 Bachelors and two Masters degrees and am working on my Ph.D., plus I speak/read and/or write at least 4 languages)
3. because I have been blessed to travel around and live in various countries and cultures of the world and have many wonerful stories to tell about it
4. because when I step out of the house, I look D*** Good (again because I work at it -- it is important to me to look not only neat but fashionable when I leave the house...unless I am running out the store last minute for something...and even then I somehow manage to look neat in sweats and an old hat to cover my bad hair day
5. because I appear like such a goody-two-shoes due to having over a decade of volunteer service with groups like Habit for Humanity, youth organizations, camping organizations, doing global humanitarian work taeching and doing construction in horrible living conditions, being a counselor and hotline helper, and helping elderly people (my Virgo urge to serve others)

...etc etc...

It has always been clear to me is is about jealousy and that Virgos "attract" criticism for things that other Sun signs are applauded for or for whom it is accepted as normal. Let the criticizers and complainers spend their time complaining while sucking up your dust as you have confidence in your and keep going with your path in life.
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"in short yes. nah, really, i don't get you people. first you show interest then you pull back. please explain that one." *****

We, Virgos, pull back because we're analyzing the situation. Like P-Angel stated, it's an approval search. We open the door or move back so that someone trying to open the door can get through. We give the Go, the green light. That's our first goal. Next, it's on the OTHER person to show us what they got. Are you really serious about us Virgos? Well, we're sitting back waiting to see it. It's like meditating, you go into a peace mode, allowing the aura of the environment to come upon you doing what it must. If, we're going to be more then it's got to flow naturally in, not with our help. Virgo's like to know the other person wants us (approves) and the only way to truly feel this way is to see how much this person wants us in their lives.

Like I said, can't speak for all Virgo's but for me, I have made the mistake of trying to push myself on a man. Not intentionally but mistaking that he was interested in me just as equally. That was in my 20's. Now that I am in my 30's and I am learning more about myself I realized that the only way to truly know that a person shares my feelings is to ALLOW that person to show me without me encouraging it or baiting it. Then I'll go gung-ho into what everyone claims is the impossible, becoming emotionally connected to my mate.

But, this process can take a while because there is a right way and a careless way to be with someone. So, a half-stepper will not get the warm welcome that he seeks because I am still questioning his motives for being with me. Is it because he's bored, just wants sex, likes me physically but not spiritually. What is going on in his head? If I ask will I get the truth? If I don't ask how long will it take for him to reveal it to me? Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts...

So, the best way to discover it all is to do nothing, become doll like and wait for him to pick you up from off the shelf. If he hugs and squeezes you and kisses your cheek. It's love. If he just takes your clothes off to get his jollies and leaves you naked and alone lying down with your thoughts, it's not love. If he acts out a disagreement and then makes you fight another doll, it's drama. But, just like dolls don't get up and make a child play with them, sometimes it's best to just wait and see what he wants to show you.

Hope that wasn't too confusing. 🙂
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As for the original question, I don't think Virgos are "hated". It's a strong word and emotion. I think many find us annoying, irritating, exasperating, etc.

The complaints I have heard the most about us is we "think too much". I have never had a person come back and tell me I was too critical and hurt their feelings or made them mad. Unless we were definitely arguing in which case, I definitely brought it. 😉

As for what P-Angel was saying... we look for approval because we're perfectionists. Critiques help us work on things. Not, because we don't know our worth. We're aware of how wonderful we are, we just want to be better, and better, and better...

Like VirgoBeloved's life story, a Virgo's world is forever upward bound. If someone tells me I did something well then I am going to try and perfect that or at least develop the routine so I do it the same way each time.

We are very loveable people because we are always there, available, reliable no matter what the subject or content. We don't have attitude problems that would keep us from multi-tasking and won't carry over the last scene into the next one. We don't take what someone else did out on another. It may influence how we handle it next time but we won't punish that person based on the last person. I think we're in the top 4 signs that can be gotten over on.

But, for the person that does, they will not get that opportunity again. They become like a penny with a hole in it. Worthless, except for idle chit chat. We're very hard on people who screw up. To gain entrance back into our world, you have to sincerely know that what happened was really, really, really, really, bad. And commit to making sure it happens never again. We don't sting like Scorpions, we don't light you up like an Aries, and we don't rip you to shreds like Leo but we will turn you into dust (earth) like only Virgo can.

Virgos have great qualities and some signs may not be able to handle the spotlight we get but it has NOTHING to do with adoration (fire signs need) or attention (water signs need) or faultlessness (air signs need) just being perfect (earth signs need). Unlike the way P-Angel stated Virgo's need for approval... we don't go on a mission seeking it. But, like she said we go on a mission seeking why it may not have qualified as perfect by someone else. Questions without answers are useless. Virgo's are just really big on amswers/reasons/truth. It's our closure to move on. 🙂
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Posted by virgo28
Seriously growing up i thought everyone couldnt stand gemini's because of their chiper persona but then they tend to flip and show you that other side.


Why all the hate on virgo's?

1. We dont sugar coat the truth?
2. we like our space
3. we love to be appreciated
4. make you bastards better people
5. neat
6. funny
7. very intelligent
8 attention to detail is ridiculous
9.commited in relationship weather friendship or romantic
10.common sense (not everyone has this)
11.commitment to excellence (love being a perfectionist)
12. excellent memory ( you bytches continue to try ever virgo's memory)
13. i can go on forever but let's the HATE BEGIN
1. Depends on how it's said

2. Who doesn't? It's the "silent treatment" and "disappearing act" that people have a problem with. That, Virgos don't seem to understand, despite their intelligence.

3. Again, who doesn't?

4. Don't bother. Stop trying to be the savior. We already had one Jesus. No Virgo is that perfect to be another. Seriously though, your methods suck. Learn to leave people alone and stop critiquing and badgering them, trying to make them "better" (align with YOUR image and idea of them.)

5. OK.

6. OK.

7. And still capable of stupid mistakes. And by the way, lots of signs are very intelligent.

8. OK

9. Hah! Not from what I've seen.

10. And still capable of stupid mistakes.

11. Oh, who cares about that but you.

12. You forgot how to spell "bitches."

13. I don't hate, but I don't sugar coat the truth about the Virgos I've known that have come into my life for longer periods of time. They're good people deep down, but they're just regular, ordinary people who THOUGHT they were something extraordinary. And I think that is the biggest problem with Virgos. They were self deluded enough to think they were "it."

Being completely honest, ALL the ones I've known have been the best at fucking up their own lives and relationships, and have been better than anyone else at being the masters of their own stupidity and misery. So, keep that in mind as you grow, and try not to end up like every other Virgo out there.

And seriously, for needing their space and time to recharge, they partied more, and harder than I ever could (a supposedly sociable Gemini.) This I never understood.

Peace
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Maetel
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I know a million Virgos, but I only have only one decent friend out of all of them. What bugs me the most about Virgos is that they are obsessive of people who they don't even know that well. Whether it be they get jealous of the person or personally hate the person, they continuously pester us by asking about them and nosing around. Like most of the time the person they hate are either oblivious, creeped out, or don't care. Stop getting obsessed about someone who doesn't want to pick a fight with you or doesn't want anything to do with you. They don't care lol. I don't know if paranoia is a Virgo thing, but just know that people are stressed out to care about your existence. The world doesn't revolve around you so don't assume the worst. Just live your life and be happy.

Another Virgo trait that I find irritating sometimes is that they can be extremely selfish and won't hear others out. They block out things they don't wanna hear, and get assertive about how we should agree with them.

Sorry for the long rant, but I've only met the bad Virgos, except for the one decent, sweet friend I had mentioned. I'm sure there are other great Virgos, but I can't speak for them since I know more negative ones :/
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Try to make you bastards better—? If there is one trait about a Virgo that I can't stand the most is the fake perception that they have of themselves of being perfect and believing that everyone else is below them or should be like them when in all actuality a lot of Virgos have major insecurity issues. Otherwise there will be no need to continuously point out someone else's flaws which is what a lot of Virgos do on a consistent basis. Many Virgos also always need to be right and always need to be reassured. Another sign of insecurity, another sign of imperfection and another reason why people dislike you.
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I love the virgos in my life, but most of them have been friends since childhood or are family.

I wonder if it's self-perception and the quest for perfectionism that makes it seem like people hate this particular sign? What I will say is one thing that I have encountered with every single Virgo in my life: they need criticism to be coated in tons of sugar, otherwise the walls will go up and it can get very icy. But I think it's because it's hurtful in regards to the hard introspective work and perfectionism they engage in, not out of ill intent. Since virgos are very open and deliberate with their criticism of others, it can create a bit of an imbalance.
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Posted by peo
I love the virgos in my life, but most of them have been friends since childhood or are family.

I wonder if it's self-perception and the quest for perfectionism that makes it seem like people hate this particular sign? What I will say is one thing that I have encountered with every single Virgo in my life: they need criticism to be coated in tons of sugar, otherwise the walls will go up and it can get very icy. But I think it's because it's hurtful in regards to the hard introspective work and perfectionism they engage in, not out of ill intent. Since virgos are very open and deliberate with their criticism of others, it can create a bit of an imbalance.
This is an interesting point that you bring up.

Virgo's pride themselves on not sugar coating the "truth" as they perceive it, or their criticisms. But they expect others to do what they refuse to? Have others pay them courtesies they are unable to pay others?

Kind of silly, no?
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... give "constructive" criticism to other people ...

useful if I was constracting. what if I don't want to be better than this? but really. if I were an artist and had a Virgo manager, that would be heaven.
Well, the question was why people hate Virgos. Most people don't like any type of criticism, constructive or otherwise. With me, if you give me constructive criticism in a nice way, I generally don't mind. If you give it a shitty way, I'll get mad, but I'll probably still take it into consideration later.

Other people are just like, fuck you, Virgo Know-it-all. 😆
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I know what you mean. Still I think the word hate is overused. It is more not liking, not feeling at ease, resisting, rejecting/denying.
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... give "constructive" criticism to other people ...

useful if I was constracting. what if I don't want to be better than this? but really. if I were an artist and had a Virgo manager, that would be heaven.
Well, the question was why people hate Virgos. Most people don't like any type of criticism, constructive or otherwise. With me, if you give me constructive criticism in a nice way, I generally don't mind. If you give it a shitty way, I'll get mad, but I'll probably still take it into consideration later.

Other people are just like, fuck you, Virgo Know-it-all. 😆

I know what you mean. Still I think the word hate is overused. It is more not liking, not feeling at ease, resisting, rejecting/denying.
What I notice is that Virgos feel hated more than they are actually hated. That's because they're super hard on themselves.
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maybe, IDK. It gets better if they have Fire placements. I know three such people and they never told that they feel to be hated.
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- Sometimes I'm either too caught up in my environment or my own mind

- Sometimes I rather just not speak vs. always trying to sugar coat shit

- Me not speaking instead of sugarcoating is probably seen as being cold or arrogant at times

- I don't care if I'm seem as cold or arrogant when the other person brought that mood out

- But.. I try to avoid ppl that can drastically "change my mood", some also see this as distant, cold or detached

- Waves (moods) of self- doubt & self motivation, probably seen as overall low self esteem or overall arrogance

- Sometimes I'll go MIA if I like someone, but nothing can come from it.. but at the same time if I don't like someone & they ignored me trying to just be friends, I'd ignore them. If I just want to focus on a friendship & you have stronger feelings, it'll feel one sided ... I don't want to fake liking someone just to temporarily make them feel better and vice versa

Overall, every action has a reaction.. every cause has an effect. I have reasons for my actions, I rarely jump into situations without thinking about other ppl & myself but every Virgo is made a little differently
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I have known some Virgos who were likeable and others i felt uncomfortable around.

Like with my dad, he wasn't critical. However you would hear his correction but it never made me feel diminished or less than. I felt safe around him for this reason.

Now my sister and grandmother are unbearable. I knew from a young age i couldn't share much around them. They would make up stories in their minds and project them onto me.

I cannot count the number of times i got accused by them. Ridiculous stuff.

They will go to great lengths to embarrass me in front of people. When they get scolded by me or others, they get really offended and resentful. Then they demand a connection and ask me why i am private and distant.

I just gave up on them. I limit my time with them.
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