Kinky Virgo (Page 3)

Although in my view reputation is there to be swept up in the next "perennial gale of creative destruction".

So... Pavaroti was over-rated? Mozart was a hack composer?

Real reputations are built on real accomplishments. Real science is based on real research. Since you've offered little to no evidence of either in your arguments, there can never be a meeting of the minds between us, and no exchange of ideas...

The original topic of this thread was my opinion that anal sex is kinky. Why not return to that?

Can I get a "second!" from the other DXPers??

It doesnt matter to you what I think.

That's your opinion...

I'm more likely to take posts seriously when the poster has something truly informed, interesting, and/or enlightening to say, but I am on record at DXP many times over the past 3+ years as stating that I am thankful for this public forum, and for the many people who contribute here...

Real science is constantly evolving. Real scientists do not accept this is the end of the road.

So... If at some time in the future, real science finds a real cure for homosexuality, should they forgo publishing their findings if those results offend homosexuals and/or their supporters in the straight community??

The ancients once regarded epileptics as communing with the gods during their seizures. In the middle ages, they were thought to be possessed by demons. Today, we give epileptics Topamax, Trileptal, and similar medications...

The Point: Opinions about mental disorders changes over time, too. Does that mean we don't call an epileptic an epileptic until we have a cure for their condition?

I believe you're using cure of diseases to apparently justify eugenics....

And I believe you missed the point entirely - again...

The Point: Opinions about mental disorders changes over time, too. Does that mean we don't call an epileptic an epileptic until we have a cure for their condition?

Right now, opinions about homosexuality as an "alternate life style " are in vogue. While I'm glad we're more tolerant today than we were one or two generations ago, I am on firm scientific ground to state: Homosexuality is abnormal. Epileptics aren't angels or demons because of their condition, and neither are homosexuals, but there's nothing bigoted about calling an epileptic an epileptic, or a homosexual a homosexual...

I've been gone for a while but when i read this thread i had to say something:

Dyr I don't understand first you wrote:

"Some of y'all - especially from the Left Coast - are probably thinking: Anal Sex, what's so kinky about that??

But, this is the Bible Belt... and, The Player is a regular church member - used to sing in the choir, too."

I live on the Left Coast and I know lots of people who are as conservative as you are. So I really don't understand where this came from considering you don't know everything about everyone where you live or anywhere for that matter. It seems that you were setting this up for your next post:

"I think these supposedly heterosexual guys with anal fixations are just homosexuals in denial..."

Eh? no one even brought up the homosexual thing until you did, which must mean your intent for your entire post was:

"Homosexuality is a mental illness. Same as any other..."

"The Point: Opinions about mental disorders changes over time, too...
...I am on firm scientific ground to state: Homosexuality is abnormal."

this is a contradictory statement. how can you be so sure that homosexuality is abnormal but also say that these opinion change over time? this is why these are theories not fact. no on knows why someone is gay or why homosexuality shows up in other species. What' may be abnormal to you can be perfectly normal to someone else. Comparing homosexuality to genocide and necrophilia makes little sense. how are these remotely the same? one has to do with mass murder and the other has to do with having sex with a corpse... neither one of these have to do with consent, which is very important when you talk about homosexuality. also diabetes is biological not mental and doesn't fit in your theory for curing homosexuality which you claimed was a mental disease.

the KINSEY REPORT is the ONLY extensive report on male sexuality, but you seem to ignore that here, which is a shame. Kinsey, through his reports and studies, theorized that sexuality is more on a scale then just straight and gay... and I believe that makes more sense. and by the way, psychology is theory based, and unlike psychiatry you don't need a medical degree to practice it, so you shouldn't put too much weight into what they say is normal and not, even psychotherapist avoid that kind of language because quite frankly know one knows. i am sure you are aware of feral kids and mind-body connections, there

i am sure you are aware of feral kids and the mind-body connection, there is a lot that goes into being human, we are our biggest mystery.

i want to let you know, i'm an independent moderate before you go off on you liberal schtick:-)

on a side note: during rough sex, a woman can bleed, get a urinary tract infection and chaffing, so anal sex is not the only thing that can be dangerous if done too improperly or too rough.

also, isn't the joke that the craziest people are psychologist? lol!

my apologies for the multiple posts. i don't know what happened there...

Hahahaha this is gold Dyar!

I love how the can call you out on your hypocrisy and bigotry!
Oh you and your evil statistics and facts.

Yet, when you jab the slightest logic at them, you don't know them.

Who's the hypocrite? Really?

That has to be the most common and pathetic come back women give, to throw me off.

Posted by pisceseyes
virgos are hooked on the ass, i dont know why but they are ass men 🙂))) im happy to oblige

Mmmmmhmmmm 🙂

virgos are hooked on the ass, i dont know why but they are ass men

I'm definitely an Ass Man. But, I am not an AssHole Man. I have no interest in driving up the Hershey Highway...

On my freeway of love, that's a wrong turn!!

satori,

I think homosexual men gravitate towards the arts because the female part of their brains is much more dominant for them than for heterosexual men...

I am quite sure there's a biological cause for homosexuality. Which is encouraging, because it gives me greater hope that someday a cure will be found...

Posted by cappygolightly

yeah watch and learn cajun and you too can be a true-blue virguy in next to no time. Nobody will like you much but that won't matter when you have no soul/morals/ethics or sense of humour....🙂

True-Blue Virguy? I do not understand.

Nobody likes me as I am, and I'm fine with that.
I'd rather be disliked for what I am, than liked for what I am not.

I have plenty of soul, morals and ethics. I also make people laugh for fun.
Your mockery is met with much disdain.

hikoro: Homosexual behavior does exist in other animal species.

Yes, which makes it much more likely to have a genetic / biological cause.

...better disdain than disinterest, keep flying the virguy flag!

We will... even when our flag waving seems to draw quite a few non-Virgos to the Virgo Board...

why should care what people do in their on private time don't you have your own life to worry about that's the problem with people nowadays anyway they don't mind they're own business that is how people get in trouble people should just worry about themselves unless that person ask for your input.

You see LeGendary ViRGo, if we don't look out for each other then how can we progress as a people.

The common saying, "Evil triumphs when Good men do nothing" applies here.

It is because we become so self centred and self reliant that things have gone awry.
Should we not act on the things others do?
Should we not respond to acts of intolerance, murder, taking advantage of others?

i understand ur point cajun i'm just saying sometimes people are overly concern what others are doing instead of focusing on there lives i neva said dat we shouldn't help others put sometimes people have to make they own choices at times sometime we gotta fall to learn if we always looking for a hand to pick us back up we will become to dependent dats all i'm saying.

That's reasonable, but you know all too well, your Virgo nature always compels you to help others.

Looking at the old configuration for child rearing, often time the entire community played a prominent role in setting the proper example for the child and correcting them.

This model is long gone and the chaos we have today is only as effective as the people directly involved with the child's life.

I'm all for self independence, but you must remember, not all signs are built as strong as us.
Pisces, Librans, Cancers, Scorpios, amongst others, all NEED the support and help of other people.

You make very good points i just dislike why people are so interested in this topic it's not really appropriate in my opinion but overall your answers and positive and that's cool i understand the realness of it. i also think Virgos are so strong for a reason maybe because of the symbol that represent our sign.

My .02 cents.

I think homosexuality is abnormal, an affliction that some wonderful people (who happen to be gay) have to live with. I enjoy the company of gay men and women, and although I don't agree with their sexual choices that has never stopped me from being friends.

God designed the human body, male and female, to procreate through the wonderful medium of sex, as well as to solidfy the marriage union which can be very difficult at times.

Through marriage and having children, people mature and become spiritually more developed, learning things like patience, self-sacrifce, and endurance which are attributes of true love. God designed the human species and the family this way....getting married and having a family is a spiritual path....it is difficult and demanding.

I recently saw a sad posting by an older gay man who, despite the fact that he was being rejected by younger men, continued to advertise for a younger male because this was the kind of man he "fell in love with" the most.

It seems to me that as we get older, we should embody deeper values than that.

Just through personal experience, most of the lesbians I know were sexually abused by men in their childhood, which is why they fear men and turn to women.

Posted by DyarStra??_e

satori,

I think homosexual men gravitate towards the arts because the female part of their brains is much more dominant for them than for heterosexual men...

I am quite sure there's a biological cause for homosexuality. Which is encouraging, because it gives me greater hope that someday a cure will be found...

Dyarstrate..... I really enjoy your posts. You are intelligent, and your arguments are pretty compelling, even if they are over-the-top a bit, but you get your point across.

About homosexuality, it has existed as long as man has existed. Homosexuality doesn't need a cure.... that is something that I find a bit extreme. It's not a disease. It's not just a biological factor..... there are harmones, genes, psychological reasons too...... It's the same reason why heterosexuals respond to the opposite sex. The same thing is going on with homosexuals. The exact same thing, except that they are attracted to the same sex.

Humans are sexual beings. The reason for that purpose is so that we can survive as a species. The only problem that I see with homosexuality is that it opposes this natural fact, but even homosexuals and lesbians can have children, so really, it's not a factoring problem.

I'm about sexual freedom. Throughout history, men have been able to dominate and feast in whatever sexual desires they wanted, including raping women and anal sex, and even homosexual activities. As a woman, I think that it is encouraging that we are able to put more input in our sexual desires too..... as sexual beings, we seek pleasure. Sex, as in sexual activities, should be pleasurable, and that can range to a lot of things to different people.

I quite enjoy anal sex. I don't do it all the time, but it is something that you do have to kinda prepare for. I could be wrong, but for me, it's not just a random act. Sex can be spontaneous,and that's what I love about it. Anal sex not so spontaneous.

I've actually had some pretty intense orgasms that way, and at first I was very skeptical about this perversion, but it is something pleasurable to me. But there are some things that I won't do that include anal sex, like I won't put a strap-on and fuck a guy in the ass. That's not for me, but then again, maybe there are people out there that find that enjoyable, so why not? If it is consensual, if noone is being intentially hurt or harmed, then w

Posted by Archer

Posted by Eaglegirl

Just through personal experience, most of the lesbians I know were sexually abused by men in their childhood, which is why they fear men and turn to women.

coming from a true bi-sexual, (just adding to your personal data base)..

I have the earliest memory of sleeping with my elder cousin and playing with her boobs and else.. till we made it a habit of night time fun.. 😉 ,,, I must be 7

when 9, I was sexually abused by a man, which did not stop me from craving men,, not-in-the-least.



Lesbians dont fear men... they are NOT into men. Nature does not follow a strict single path.. this putting the label of anything that does not appeal to Mr. or Ms. X as 'abnormal' is totally indicative that Mr. or Ms. X has a lot to learn yet in terms of human experience and acceptance.

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While there have been studies that do indicate that there is some relationship between lesbians and previous sexual and physical abuse, it is not a direct correlation. That's the major difference. If it were a correlation, then the other millions of women who are abused would be lesbains too...... but that sadly is not the fact.

I was abused in my early adolesent life, when I was strating to develope my sexuality in the early sense. It did inhibit me, but I found myself whoring myself out to express the pain that I was holding inside. In some twisted way, sleeping around and having sexual conquests took away the power of hoplessness that I intially would feel. It made me strong and eventually healed me, because now I am able to identify with my own sexuality, and not identify with being a victim of a sexual crime that went unpunished....... The only affect that that part of my life has is the psychological wounds that I can't heal. I initially don't trust men right off the bat, but I also have had a nasty trach record of picking boyfriends that were untrustworthy. I've moved on from that stage of my life too, hopefully now, but it is a hard habit to break, because it is so instinctual for me. I'm def. working on my self worth and confidence.......

Posted by Archer
very eloquent Mars.in.Aries :-)

Posted by Mars.In.AriesBut there are some things that I won't do that include anal sex, like I won't put a strap-on and fuck a guy in the ass. That's not for me, but then again, maybe there are people out there that find that enjoyable, so why not? If it is consensual, if noone is being intentially hurt or harmed, then w

gaud, I should not be writing this.. haha,, but what the hell...

have done that,, what you wont do.. 😉... and the irony of it.. to a VIRGO, (my ex).. on his insistence/ request and it was very much FUN,,, (yep during one of those monthly cycle days).. and he loved spanking earlier too and requested me to be a bit more cruel.

damn, I thought it is going too far, (read 'red and swollen') but he loved it,, so why not.. and he could take the pain, so ...

... kinky/ pervert/ abnormal .... nothing.. just something we both were comfortable doing 😛

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Wow archer..... after reading your post, you've really peaked my interest on the subject...... hmmm..... I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned comfort. That has so much to do with it. With me, there are different levels of comfort with my sexuality and how much I am willing to reveal (perhaps even give in to—?). I mean, I KNOW what I want, and I know what would really make me sexually free, but that is a level of comfort that I need to be on with someone that I can full-heartedly trust and not question. The love life has to contect and balance the sexual life of the realtionship. I haven't experienced that yet......

How long were you with your virgo for— I'm interested, because recently a virgo has started to peak my interest. We've been hanging out a lot, and we work together, and he has always been so respectful and non-judgemental of me, even though I have made a lot of mistakes and made an ass of myself from time-to-time. We really enjoy the same things, and now we are hanging out a lot more. He will even kinda flirt with me infront of the other guys (I work in a kitchen where I am the only female). I am flattered by his complete and utmost respect for my independence, which he doesn't feel threatened by at all........ I'm an aries, and I've been told that my aries temperment will counter-act his virgo sensability.

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