Lost in Transit

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum. But I am at my wit's end and need some support and help to figure things out..

I'm a Capri woman in my late twenties. I met My Mr.Virgo (in his very early thirties); roughly two and a half years back; through an official matrimonial website. We wrote to each other and spoke for quite a while over phone calls and chats, before we finally met.
I simply adored his simplicity and honesty from day one. We had a great time outdoors and also shared a very intimate kiss. Since then, I haven't felt the need to meet anyone else. But his problem is, that his job makes him travel to asian countries for nearly 5 months, every year. We lose 'total contact' while he is gone. We don't write or talk in that time, since he has a very busy schedule around the clock.
I know Virgo men can be very slow to mature themselves emotionally, they take their own time. I also know by 2 years of experience of being with him that they are extremely warm and passionate when intimate; but when physically away - - they can be so cold and aloof; actually totally detached.

Initially, I thought he wasn't interested. At one point, I confronted him because I was tired being emotionally stifled. It turned into a very roguh and ugly argument. We didnt talk to each other for another 5 months, even if he was in town. But, suprisingly, he kept texting and leaving voice messages. He would promptly notify me when he leaves the country and when he plans to come back.

Off lately, his acts have been very confusing. Last week, he expressed extreme desire to meet me immediately, or as son as possible. I played it cool his-way, just to let him know how it feels to be ignored and spoken to only when his schedule allows him to.

Tonight, he flew out to California. Apparently, his dad wanted to get him hitched into an arranged marriage to a girl and he just flew out to go meet her. He called me yesterday, almost pleading me, to meet him for lunch today, but I avoided meeting since I was confused. He called me today, just before he flew out.
I am so confused. I love him intensely. But I have no idea how serious is he about me this time. He plans to come back this Sunday. I don't know what to do. Should I be the one to call him or should I wait for him to call?

I avoided meeting him today, because the other girl was on his mind and I wanted to keep things simple for him. I just thought, having him meet the other girl would be the right supportive thing to d

I avoided meeting him today, because the other girl was on his mind and I wanted to keep things simple for him. I just thought, having him meet the other girl would be the right supportive thing to do.

Help me, someone please help me..

I love him to such an extent, that I would distance myself away from him if he likes this other girl in California. Just for the sake of his happiness. Because, I love him in a way where I want him to be happy.
But secretly, deep inside, I'm craving to death.. waiting for him to come back to me.. I had to bite my lips hard to stop myself from asking him to not go..

But I'm just confused by his hot-cold behavior every now and then. How do I know this time is genuine ? Our relationship of keeping in touch, has just been lost in transit.

Yet, in his absence everytime, I never felt like meeting anyone else.. I'm losing my sanity..
Help.. someone, please help me..

Thanks so much fumingli, your words really make me feel much better. For the last 2 years, I had been silently dealing with this mental and emotional game by myself, not having anyone to understand what I am going through. You are very right in saying that it will be hard for me to get over him if he chooses to be with the other woman, just to keep his dad's wishes happy.

Sometimes, I feel Virgo men are a bit too selfish and self-centered. They might not intend to be such, but they end up seeming to be one, because of their indecisive behavior. It was just so surprising for me, to have him discuss about this 'other woman', just as we talk about other things. He even went on to tell me her name, where she lives, what she does, what flight he is taking to fly and go meet her, where will he be stationed, how they intend to meet for a coffee and maybe lunch. He even went on to say: its not that serious, I'll be back by Sunday.

Do you see the way he builds confusion ? He wants to meet me as soon as possible and even turns blind eye to my feelings for him.

But what I now wonder is, after his come back on Sunday, should I be the one to call him to ask him how his trip was; or should I be the one expecting him to contact me ?

It may sound trivial, but both these actions can send out very different messages.
My other option is, to sit down with him and talk it out. But what really gives me the shivers, is that the last we spoke about it, nearly a year back, it turned so volatile and ugly, that I almost never wanted to talk to him again or see him either. It was his text messages that kept me tagged onto him..

I know I need to act on this after he comes back. I just don't know what would be right. Should I be courageous enough to sit down calmly and talk it out with him all over again, or should I expect that one of these days, he would just suddenly, out of nowhere, attain his maturity and take a responsible decision.

Once, he told me, "Once I finalize who I want to be with, it will be just her and no one else, but its just the decision-part that is taking time with me. I am just looking for the right woman because I want to grow old with that person and make sure I won't get into a divorce. I want a life-long relationship".

That confession came from him, by itself. I wasn't even looking for it, he just blurted it out one day suddenly..

Why did I read this thread? This is very painful..

Don't you think the fact that he is ready to see some one shows he is not 100% sure about you? He is looking for a better deal.

I know two virgo friends of mine, both male, in similar situations like this..

1. One virgo was an intimate friend with one of his girl friends. The girl thought she was the one, the virgo flew 3000 miles to see another girl as wished by his family. Currently this virgo is married to that girl based on arrange marriage and not to his intimate friend. Interestingly, that girl he is married to is a cap.
The intimate ex-friend is still unmarried.


2. One more virgo guy was in "love" with one girl. His family forced him to see other girl. That other girl is cap. On the first date, the virgo told that girl, "his parents were forcing him to meet with her and she should see others!!"

Currently both that cap girl and the virgo are unmarried! He broke up with the girl he thought he was in "love" with. The cap is still hurt, not seeing any one, but the virgo is seeing others that are exact copy of the cap he said NO, years back. I had posted in another thread about a virgo guy meeting people with EXACT same birthdate. This is the same virgo I was talking about.


Interestingly, both stories are about 2.5 years old. At that time there were eclipses going on in virgo-pisces axis.

I do not see an easy answer for your situation. I know it must be killing you, I hope you do get a peace of mind, cry it out in a closed room or read something that can give you peace and courage. Pray to God for everyone's good. You know we are supposed to be strong and people say we got a stainless steel spine, you have to believe you do really have a stainless steel spine.

I do not have an answer for what should you do in the situation like you are.
I generally believe that "what ever happens, happens for the best"..

It's part of my brainwashing procedure. Hope it works. I'm trying everything I can think of. Ha ha...

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damn you FS... Nice one.. I read all of your stuff.

Ya- let him make up his mind on his own... These stupid messed up virgos!!!

Hey, Ms. Arabian Mirage, do not feel so down, be strong, THINK POSITIVE!
You should think there is 50-50 chance in the game here and you should be prepared to deal with any outcome.

I think best way to handle on your part would be to NOT CONTACT him!
If he asks you later on, just ask the question, what would he do in your situation?

Good Luck.

Fumingli - thanks so much (I really mean it)... for helping me understand Virguys better.. with some more of your experiences with them.. I'm just content for now.. in the consolation that.. atleast he is honest with me, and that he doesn't keep me in the dark about his forced visit to this other woman.
I think I'll take your advice on this one. I will let him contact me and I will play it like it didn't matter to me. But I will ask him to meet me face-to-face. I'll put him in my shoes and ask him what it feels like. My Virgo, happen to be very verbal. He is so talkative at times, that I lose my string of thoughts sometimes and then, the right time to say things, is gone. Whenever we meet, he praises how a big workaholic I am, how I'm always focused at work, my maturity, he praises the way I dealt with my past, he asks about my family and how they are doing on a regular basis. So, he has already told me that he appreciates my positive traits.
But fumingli, at the end of the day, when he still remains indecisive, then what's the use of him praising him on my face ?.. This time when we meet this coming week, I'm really going to talk face-to-face..

capgirl.. you will find this such a coincidence !!.. but in my case, the 'other woman' is a Capri too! She is an Aries by sun sign and a Capri female by her moon sign. Based on your narratives, I sort of feel that my heart is sinking..
But, you know caprigirl, the way he described the girl, it seems like he is seeking my positive traits in other girl.. he doesn't want to lose me, but wants to look for a girl who has my traits.. and more.

If I know him correctly, he will come back on Sunday, but won't call me.. expecting that I would remember.. that he was going to come back on Sunday.. and will expect me to call him up.

What bothers me, is that I know, that he likes me, but I know that he will get married to the girl, if his dad forces. He gets weak when its the question of his parents..

But, you know caprigirl, the way he described the girl, it seems like he is seeking my positive traits in other girl.. he doesn't want to lose me, but wants to look for a girl who has my traits.. and more.

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DOn't you think this is weird? Why do they do so?
Since monrning I am thinking about u and my heart goes out for you...

Keep us posted and do not loose hope. Who knows every thing will be fine after Mercury retro is over!

Take it easy.

How can you be so sure of that?

True love makes one fight against any power..
I think Virgo is lacking a little.

If I broke up with some one, I would want the new person to be exactly opposite or different from the one I broke up with...I would not want a copy of an ex in my current partner, that will be an every day torture I will have to go thru...

I have an idea, let's get that virgo's dad on board and teach that old person the FUNDAMENTALS of LOVE and IMPORTANCE of it.

Can you live a stereotyped life with some one whom you do not love for the sake of society?

And, what is this "society", set of morons judging every one?

I do not think it is dad's fault, it is the virgo responsible for it, I think he does not have enough guts to fight for love.

Today, in all these 2.5 years of time, for the first time,.. my wait for him has become unbearable..
So unbearable, that its hard to believe, that I can't stop my tears rolling out of my eyes..

never felt so helpless for myself,.. ever before..

hey arabian_mirage,

Be strong..
I feel bad for you and I am helpless I can't help you out...

Do take care of yourself..
I will pray for u..

hey mirage,

I hope you are doing OK and eating and sleeping well.
Do take care of yourself, I have said a prayer for you that God does not give you a heartbreak. I also prayed you get courage to deal with what may come.

Take care..

FS:

I like your positive energy.
I guess even if comes in today, I bet he will need time to analyze things.

I do not think he will be able to make a fast decision since he is a virgo, if you know what I mean..

We know it takes YEARS for virgos to decide!

That kind of love is so rare and you deserve only someone who would sacrifice as much as you have, nothing less. - satori.
Satori, I have thought about this so many times.. but if he was not interested in me, then why did he want to meet me again more aggressively after the first 5 month silence?

I hope you are doing OK and eating and sleeping well. - caprigirlwithvirgo
Capgirl, I have had an unbearable headache since morning, and after my last post, I fell asleep. Its now the end of Sunday. I know he is back in town, but he hasn't called me yet. I have no clue if he liked the girl, or not. But I have decided not to call him, am just going to expect him to call. As soon as we talk, I will ask him to meet me.

arabian is not online... perhaps she is having romantic moments with virgo man. - fumingli
I guess even if comes in today, I bet he will need time to analyze things. - caprigirlwithvirgo
No friends, although he has come back to town, he hasn't contacted yet. fumingli, I think he is taking his time to sit and analyze. Just as I thought, he won't call. If I know it right, he probably won't call me tomorrow as well, feeling shocked I didn't call him, and he will then call on Tuesday and talk about it casually, like as if it was just like watching a 3-hr movie.

i'm very sorry to bring all these negativies to you but i'm just telling you what i saw in real life. i would NEVER commit to any one of those men unless their loyalty to me is PROVEN beyond any doubt. - sagigoat.
sagi, these thoughts have come into my mind not once, but several times, all those times when he went out to asian countries. Although, he lives with his parents when he goes there, I knew he was with them. But that does not rule out, that he couldn't have had several short time affairs. But, bottomline is, he still hints 'me' with matrimonial questions, which means, all of those affairs were temporary and don't mean anything. I can't get possessive about him, until he 'announces' his decision. Yes, if he would have been my husband, and had extra-mar affairs, then that would have meant something seriously wrong and worrisome.

Now, that the 'painful wait' is over and I know he is back in town, its just a matter of him calling me up. I swear on you guys, this time he does, I will ask him to meet me. But, if he does not call me till Thursday, then it means, I lost him..

But, I know one thing. He is not the first man in my life. I have had a very painful past and have made several compromises in my past, just to see my near and dear ones happy. My past has such painful events, I shiver to even think about them.

If my Virgo man leaves me, some part of me inside me will be permanently broken. I don't think I will ever be able to trust men. Ever.

Not only that, with his going,.. my trust in the strength of God to do justice with a sincere lover like me, will be broken too.

As it is, my profession keeps me so stressed and engrossed, I rarely get time to socialize. With his going,.. my last and only wish for my own self, to be happy with him, will die permanently..

If my Virgo man leaves me, some part of me inside me will be permanently broken. I don't think I will ever be able to trust men. Ever.

Not only that, with his going,.. my trust in the strength of God to do justice with a sincere lover like me, will be broken too.

As it is, my profession keeps me so stressed and engrossed, I rarely get time to socialize. With his going,.. my last and only wish for my own self, to be happy with him, will die permanently..
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You DID make me cry..
I am not as strong as I thoght I was...
Before he sees me crying, I am going to the bathroom to clean it up...

I hope you feel better, soon...

Yes friends,..

Just as I had thought. He wouldn't call today.. and so he really did not..
Either:
1. He is shocked and is feeling rejected,.. that I did not respond by digging him out of his silence yet.

Or,

2. He is taking his own little time to sit and analyze the new girl he met.

Or,

3. He wants to contact me but is thinking, that calling me as soon as Monday, would make him sound too desperate and if he reveals his desperation, then I might press him for a marriage right away.

And, for some reason, I feel it is reason no.3. Why ?
because, Iam pretty sure, that he did not like the girl he met. If he would have liked, he would have called by now, to share the fact that he actually found someone who has my qualities and the 'more' qualities that he was seeking..

For some reason, I feel like a winner.. some sort of weird happiness, that I did not melt in.. to calling him up till this moment.. thanks to you guys, you all just managed to steer me off in the right direction with this..
What happens tomorrow when he calls, is yet to be known, but for now, I feel like I am going to have my first peaceful sleep in the last 3 days.. thanks a ton for just being here responding to me and helping me out.. I mean it..!.. :-)

Will keep you guys posted on what happens tomorrow..

sagigoat; I absolutely love the way you have a firm hold on your own self, and at the same time, have the strength to break free of the chains that bind my mind and make me weak..

your words give out one strong message to me: learn to hold your head high in self-respect and not let virgo trample it down by his indecisiveness wishy-washy approach to life..

thanks a lot for your timely harsh words..
they just made me wake up from a deadly nightmare.. :-)

For some reason, I feel like a winner.. some sort of weird happiness, that I did not melt in.. to calling him up till this moment.. thanks to you guys, you all just managed to steer me off in the right direction with this..

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YOU GO GIRL!!!

I am soooooooooooo happy for you.. I really prayed for you..

And the pain you went through, I must say, was unbearable!!! I wanted to ask but was scared incase the result was not good.

What a peace I feel at the moment!

Follow your Gut Instinct!
(even if it not what you want)

"Apparently, his dad wanted to get him hitched into an arranged marriage to a girl and he just flew out to go meet her. "

whew, nothing like family pressure, my guess is he wanted to see you to have you talk him out of this arranged marriage if at all possible, he wanted your input in figuring a way out of it. I'll bet he's feeling like a deer in the middle of the road with a semi trucks headlights shining on him.

Well my dear friends..
It's Tuesday night.. around 9.30pm at my end and he still hasn't called.. he definitely is expecting me to call.

He calls until 11.30pm and even past it.. at times.. but I can bet you he won't call.
Ive sort of gone numb.. not in a painful way.. but.. comfortably numb, if he calls - fine, I'm ready to lash out my sarcasm at him, all in the right sense..

If not, then it doesn't hurt anymore, since he has fallen from the respect that I once had for him, in my heart.

My friends have told me, that I have a kind of disposition where people feel themselves and can be totally themselves around me, and they don't need to cover-up their acts, which is why they love me a lot as a friend. I have a feeling that Virgo is taking me for granted, and I just need to give him a jolt and remind him: Relationship is like a little plant, that has a soul to it and has a shelf life to it as well. Both people in the relationship need to water the plant constantly, else relationship will dry out and die.

my guess is he wanted to see you to have you talk him out of this arranged marriage if at all possible, he wanted your input in figuring a way out of it. I'll bet he's feeling like a deer in the middle of the road with a semi trucks headlights shining on him : namor.

well well, this seems to be a new way of looking at it. And you might be true as well, because since I am the one posting the thread, I have a say, but he doesn't have any input here, so you might be right.

Agreed you might be right, but namor, my question is, don't we grow one day older with every new day ? Shouldn't I ever expect him to 'grow up' and 'act mature' and 'take responsibility'..? Why does he need my input after 2.5 years; shouldn't he be able to figure out his feelings by himself? I can tell him if his jeans look good on him or not, how can I tell him, what his feelings are; for I don't have any insight to his heart, or mind..

And come to think of it, if he feels like a deer in the middle of the road - doesn't that go on to prove that he isn't matured enough to be married to ?

I mean, if, I get married to such a person who leans on me, to help him for every decision, then the married life would be a burden on me and he will thrive on my emotional strength. Where is his input as a husband? How is, getting married to him, any different than tying a stone to my leg for the rest of my life ?...

Imagine this.. what if him and I got married and I am pregnant, expecting our baby just next week. For an urgent meeting, I had to travel the highway and on my way I meet a tragic accident. I could not think of anything, stuck underneath the car and think of calling him. I call him and tell him what happened..

Take a guess at what his response would be ?

Relationship is like a little plant, that has a soul to it and has a shelf life to it as well. Both people in the relationship need to water the plant constantly, else relationship will dry out and die.
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VERY GOOD POINT.. Let him work hard!
And no, let him understand that he can't take you for granted...

Imagine this.. what if him and I got married and I am pregnant, expecting our baby just next week. For an urgent meeting, I had to travel the highway and on my way I meet a tragic accident. I could not think of anything, stuck underneath the car and think of calling him. I call him and tell him what happened..

Take a guess at what his response would be ?
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Damn, it THINK POSITIVE!!!
Do not think so much, may I ask what is your sun and moon sign?

Take it easy.. You are thinking too much..

"Shouldn't I ever expect him to 'grow up' and 'act mature' and 'take responsibility'..? Why does he need my input after 2.5 years; shouldn't he be able to figure out his feelings by himself"

Virgos are like the redwood trees they take their own sweet time to mature and nothing you do or say will make them move any faster then they are ready to.

"And come to think of it, if he feels like a deer in the middle of the road - doesn't that go on to prove that he isn't matured enough to be married to"

You answered your own question.

" mean, if, I get married to such a person who leans on me, to help him for every decision, then the married life would be a burden on me and he will thrive on my emotional strength. Where is his input as a husband? How is, getting married to him, any different than tying a stone to my leg for the rest of my life ?..."

When he is ready for marriage, the above paragraph will not apply.

wow.. I am shocked..!!!!
My virgo said the same words to me!!! The same words...
Trust me, he said it.
Ok wait, I still I still have his email where he said that, let me copy-paste his words:

" More than anything else, the kind of an aloof person I'm, but more than that, I do care quite a bit for you. I know I can do a whole lot to be caring, but, I guess I'm not there yet, but its not like you lost me. I'm always there for you when you need me. May be a few hours or days late, but I'm there. "

Ok fumingli.. I am getting a real spooky feeling here..
my Virgo is and Indian, from India; settled in Washington DC. Is yours too?
My Virgo did visit Toronto, more than twice, last year...

Or is it pure coincidence.. can two Virgos really speak the same language too..??.. wow.. they're quite a species aren't they..

capgirlwithvirgo:
my sun sign is capricorn and moon sign is aquarius, born on January 2nd.
Mr. Virgo is Virgo by sun sign and Virgo by moon sign, born on September 4th.

fumingli : wow.. theres quite some pain deep in your heart too. Anger and then given it all away.. but honestly, you are much more stronger than I am.. you know how to smile and keep positive. I can smile and let go.. but the scar will bleed in my heart for another 2 years. I'll meet people.. but the scar will bleed silently..

namor: your positivity is sort of hinting me, to hang on and watch him for longer. Am I right? I know its good to be positive. Which is why I started this thread, with hopes of positivity. But, if he truly is a redwood tree, then it will require me to wait.
And although, I can wait as much as I want, I'm in no hurry. What I'm truly worried about is: Is he worth my wait? His cold aloof nature, that he himself agrees to have; scares the wits out of me. I can't imagine such an immature figure to be a father to my kids..

I don't mean to say I give up, since he said, "once I find her, there will be no more seeking". But, he does make me wonder if he really is worth all this frustration at my hands..

branh0913 : I am Indian too, I just hail from a Middle-Eastern country, by birth..

Branh, my plate is already full of a lot of things happening right now.. so just chill ?!!

..sleeping with a total stranger like you, is the last thing that ever happens. actually.. maybe not even the last thing.. it would never.
Hope this helps.

And, if you feel these things are unimportant, then I can only make an educated guess, that you too, are a Virgo..!!

Namor, you got any of those Namor 101 for Branh here ??..:-)

Virgos only learn hard lessons, and some of the hardest lessons it taking something away from them, not enabling them. You have to be mature and learn to move past the situation. If he loves you, he will be hurt. This will not gurantee success, but it will teach the virgo to be more aggressive the next time he has such an encounter. Virgos main issue is no seizing opportunities for themselves, or taking advatange of opportunities presented to them.
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SO HONEST!!

I liked that Branh.

Very well worded!

By the way, this does not have anything to do with this thread. Yet, I just thought I would share the 'coincidence' of life..

Ive been in this country for 6 years, never once did I want to go back to Dubai. Virgo tells me 2 weeks back, that he is heading out for Dubai next month, for his sister's wedding.

Believe it or not, my senior manager forwarded me an email today morning, from a potential client, who, if pleased, would prod us into opening up a branch of our architectural company in Dubai. Not only so, but if it goes well, they want me to spearhead and move out there .. ahem.. 'next month'.

So, branh.. it isn't really that my life banks on his decisions, because my profession will take me across the globe overnight. I've mentioned to him several times that there is no certainty that I will always be in town.

The problem is, he wouldn't let go off me. We broke up last year. I never wanted to see him again. He found me back again (he actually came looking for me at my office, knowing he would find me there) and expressed a sudden interest in meeting me and getting back together as soon as possible.. do you have a plausible hypothesis for such an odd behavior by Virgos ?

fs, I think you are being too emotional to interpret what branh said here. I think what he is trying to tell you is: you are the one who let him to start the cycle over and over by keep accepting him again into your life. Whether he thinks that loving you will get him hurt is irrelevant ONCE you cut your ties with him (i.e. Do not allowing him to start the cycle again). It's like: "why should I care whether you will get hurt or not by loving me? You are nothing in my life now." The question is, how can you get hurt if you have this attitude in your life? Impossible.

I am sorry to say this, but by reading your story, it looks like you are the one who wants him so badly (while the guy might not even sure if he wants to stick with you), then the guy only goes along with the game ("sure why not, she wants me in the game anyway"). Then, while being unsure whether he should commit 100% into the relationship, you expect certain response from the guy that he loves you 100% , else you'll get disappointed. Of course, he cant give in 100% since he is being unsure of his own feeling. The best bet is probably just to give you enough hope to hang on. Well, at worst, he might knows that you will let him enter the cycle again. Hence, the cycle is repeated again here.

Although, I do aware that adult relationship isn't so simple, you have a lot of consideration to hang on. But, you should be aware that there always be another option: worry about yourself, your happiness, by cutting your ties with him, hence no more cycle, hence no more griefing and sadness.

I am no one in your life, I might be still too young and not have the adult love experience like yours, hence I might be wrong too. But you may consider my analogy above and see if it applies to you. I hope I didnt offend you in any way. 🙂

"Virgos only learn hard lessons"

"anyway, he has not called by now. aren't you pissed?"
"why would you want a man who cannot make up his mind about you anyway? freaking annoying don't you think? YES or NO be a man and make a decision on his own is that too much to ask is he a man or not? not for his dad not needing to see whether you or this other girl pull him hard enough if he has a mind of his own and knows himself."

am, you should give him a lesson. Let him knows that you are no easy woman, he can't just treat you this way. There is no way I am going to treat my dear one like this ("well, I do like you, but I am also looking for another woman with the good trait like yours"). Let him learn "you don't know what you are missing until you lost them", W.A.L.K. A.W.A.Y. and free yourself once your patience limit is over.

If he can't even make up his mind, then let him knows that you suffer from his indecisiveness. Even if he needs time to think and analyze, he should be considerate enough to let you know that he needs thinking time, NOT just simply disappearing.

I guess I and your virguy are two very different people. Well, I have short tempered Aries moon, That's probably what makes us different.

Just an update.
It's Thursday.. 8pm and..
still not a word from his side.

All I feel for him now.. is pity.. pure pity..
he better gather himself up in his life.. and get his act right.. before it gets so late for him, that no woman would want to be with him..

I wouldn't be suprised.. if he will be one of those.. who will get married for people's happiness.. and always measure his wife with others as a yardstick and inturn, make her life miserable too.. while all the while, he will never be happy because .. she just was never the person.. who we was happy with.. to begin with..

since she would never be his choice.. but someone else's choice.
It almost feels like.. Virguys are cursed.. in one way or the other.. poor them.

Nothing to do with him.. but on a side note..
I just got a new haircut.. got my hair colored as well.. last night..
they actually feel much more softer and warm.. much more warm than his presence could ever feel.. :-)

He called yesterday night.. we spoke.
He wanted to know if I missed him even once, while he was gone..

He wants to meet for a dinner tomorrow night..
tomorrow night is the dinner.. where I talk it out to him..
straight..

Interesting!

After making you wait for this long. Take revenge of every thing he did to you and yes- talk it out STRAIGHT!

So.. we met.
Had dinner. Spoke it out. Spoke it out all.. in its entirety.

This time, it was different. Most of the times, when I confront him with some things that put him under a spot.. he tries to evade and escape. This time, he was patient, calm, totally under control.. heard me out .. and then was silent for quite a while.

He finally said.. I do realize what you are going through. Believe me, I do.
I need some time to think things out. Believe me, I will get an answer for you soon..

I need some time to think things out. Believe me, I will get an answer for you soon..

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DAMN IT!!

He still does not have final answer?
I can imagine what you are going thru.
Do not think at all about him...

It is when we let go of things/people etc. they come back to us!

Good Luck

Mirage,

If I may ask, are you still waiting or have already decided your course of action to teach a lesson to a virgo if he comes back with "YES".

Do you see a reason for your waiting for him, instead of saying him NO before he gives his "VERDICT" on you.

If you do not want to answer, that's fine. Hope you are doing better.

What I'm learning about this uranus in september and the mercury retrogate is
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What was with uranus in Sep?
Did you mean in Oct.?

Hey there capgirl & fumingli scorp..

Ive been so zoned out.. for some new developments at workstage.. its keeping me on my toes.. thank god.. for it doesn't leave me with much time to miss and pine over my virguy.. he now calls me once every 2-3 days, ever since I complained of his hot-cold attitude verbally.. on his face..

He's decided to continue with the final semester of his post-grad MBA.. which he isn't able to complete since he always flies out for 5 months everytime.. and so he nowadays keeps himself awake in the middle of the night to finish his work and studies..

I've decided and announced to him as well.. that I'm taking off for 3 weeks.. I'm going to a retreat in Pennsylvania, to meet my spiritual guru and stay at the retreat and meditate for hours together in the day, read with my guru and practise yoga with him. Upon knowing, he wanted to know what, whys, hows of my going, when I'll be back.. literally everything. He was disturbed when I told him I was going away to spend some time by myself and that he won't be able to reach me..

He's going to Dubai to meet his sister by the end of November and wanted to know if I will be back in town before he flies out. He said, he wanted to sit down and talk and so asked me to make sure I come back before end of November.

I was surprised this came from him. But, I'm still not getting my hopes too high. He's our Virgo afterall, I wouldn't be surprised if he flips on his own words..

Let's see..

I was surprised this came from him. But, I'm still not getting my hopes too high. He's our Virgo afterall, I wouldn't be surprised if he flips on his own words..
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Mirage...

Keep your hopes TOTALLY balanced, not too little, not too much..
FOR ONCE I HOPE THE VIRGO USES HEART AND NOT THE HEAD..

I hate this, when they do it... I used to feel him crying for me when away and then when near to me, he would act as if "nothing" happened...

You do not know, but, I have my heart on line for your out come and IF the outcome will not be nice, I will be VERY DISAPPOINTED...

like FS said, I think, for every one this is a TEST OF TIME...


Best of Luck and yes, do practice yoga etc. It does do good.

What I do not understand is this,

for virgos it takes YEARS to make a decision..
so when the new person comes in, how do they get "attracted" to that new person all of a sudden??
I mean, what about the memories, things, fights, laughters etc. that was created with a person for they were with for years? for me, those memories will kill me if I will try to pursue some one new, after years with one person.

Virgos waste their time and time of others. They do not say yes, or no.
Virgos, do not feel bad, some say I am virgo rising...

ABSOLUTELY NO COMMENTS!

Actions speak louder than words!!

Need I say more 😉??

HAHAHAHA

FS,

You see actions speak louder than words 😉!!!

Why word is 😉? Just watch the drama, it will expose the identity itself!

I'm leaving for Pennsylvania tonight.. he said he wanted to talk to me before I left.. He hasn't called yet.

And for some reason, I'm not surprised.. at all..

Guys, I'll be back by Nov 10th.. so if you don't hear from me till then.. you know where I am..

Take care.