To anyone who's ever loved, lost and retrieved a V (Page 2)

OOpppps...I sure hope that my above post did not come off sounding a bit harsh...Reka, when I said that this man does not deserve such a woman as you I meant that, you deserve better...you are a quality woman and need to be with a man who will treat you as such and that my dear is what YOU deserve!

Not realy..CB

You know that I concern, about you guys (since) I am the only (Virgo) in this board (so far) care to analyse and answer.
These problems you all talking about, pushing me to find the (correct) answers and solutions that might be useful in the future (not to dealing with Virgos) but to dealing with (yourselves) its scary to see the majority have such a common problems and worse?you all refer to your past experiences for the ultimate solution?
May I ask something—
You guys love your partner and love to be with— Then why you complaining about his/her behaviours..??
To me, you all sound like some (investors) that looking for the (profit)?(a business man) in my head love has nothing to do with business?things come and goes?!! And I only see the good side of the people I like (I don't love) (never complaining about the bad side) so, knowing that things (come and goes..) why do I have to waste my time for things that not going happen again in my future life..?? And those (so called past experiences) are they handy for the future..(i am not going to repeat myself)?? if yes.. then your lover (whom ever she/he might be) is nothing more than a ROBOT that need to be programmed by you and behaves exactly as you know and planed.

Please "think" before you reply... cause it is important matter.
🙂

A lot of people must really be "thinking" here cause no one has replied as of yet.

I am going to put on my "thinking" cap, sit in the corner and be back to post. 😉

Ive learned that with relating with all peoples(virgos and non) i find that being open and just simply paying attention is best. im not suggesting that one detach and sit back idly watching, taking notes. on the contrary i suggest being involved but not allowing ones emotions taking over the "wisdom" mind (as opposed to the intellectual mind and the emotional mind) and maintaining a sense of curiosity. but its special curiosity--it does not ask why or how. just pays attention.
oh and no asking, demanding, or worst of all expecting anything of the other person.
as for the controlling and predicting, i do think that a lot of people would (secretly) want to control or in other words, know what they are getting into (predictability). no one likes being duped. no one likes feeling unprepared.
shoot--lost my train of thought. oh well.

...maybe someone else can continue that one...

Sorry it took me so long to get back to this place...I went to find a corner but could not...there was no corner in the round room so I kept going in circles...found myself a bit dizzy..needed time to recover.

Q - you say, "You guys love your partner and love to be with— Then why you complaining about his/her behaviours..??"

Sure, one can love a person he/she is with but, what if on the other hand the other person does not "love" the one that loves him/her? The situation we then find ourselves in is a person who only wants self gratification and is selfish. This type of relationship will not work and here is where the discombobulation is felt - the turmoil of feelings begin to emerge to the surface to be recognized for what they are. The person who "loves" the so called "need my fix" person attempts to make excuses for him/her because no one wants to feel that they are being used.

When a relationship is "spot-on" you KNOW it....yes, there will be hurdles to be recognized and learned from but deep within your soul...you just "know". We know when it is right for us and we know when it is not.

I am only speaking from my own personal experience. I have been involved with a man who felt his needs were more important than mine. Anytime he made a choice to connect with me was because he wanted something. This was a learning experience for me...I knew that it was me who needed to end this so called "relationship"...for my own emotional well being. I chose to end it in a very civil way grateful for my experiences.

Anyone can use anyone if we allow for that to happen...this too is a part of life, people will take others for granted....some men have a very high sex drive and can be addicted to sex due to their past experiences which they have not let go of and bring that to the existing relationship.


"And those (so called past experiences) are they handy for the future..(i am not going to repeat myself)?? if yes.. then your lover (whom ever she/he might be) is nothing more than a ROBOT that need to be programmed by you and behaves exactly as you know and planned."

Q - Yes, those so called "past experiences" sure can be handy for the moment that we are in...to be emotionally healthy we need to forgive those "past" mistakes but we sure don't need to forget them as this is how we learn to not find ourselves in that same situation.

I believe that when we enter a new relationship that we need to enter it without any preconceived thoughts of what will happen...we need to enter it as a "new" experience as it is...a fresh, new adventure...no expectations...go with the flow...BUT!!!!!!! IF...a flag (red, blue, green, yellow..I don't really care what color it is) appears and your inner guidence system sounds that "warning" siren...we must LISTEN to it. We don't need to react instantly but perhaps...lay low and observe, give the benefit of the doubt till more (if any) other flags appear. Our lessons will continue to enter our lives till we learn them and stop them. And, this to me is what relationships are all about...not good, not bad...they just are...

"Be mindful of each moment in your day. SLOW DOWN! Your journey is not only about arriving at your destination. The journey is the journey. The end is not the journey. The destination will be what it will be, but did you enjoy the way?
--Ron Rathbun


So, I say ..... simply, if you are in a relationship and you are enjoying it...stay and enjoy the ride. If, it is not enjoyable and causing emotional distress..it is up to you to make a change so that you can enjoy the journey of your life.

Freebird.

In my head and heart when I interpreting the word of love I get nothing more than 2 things (respect and care) (respect with my head) and (care with my heart) might be more than this but I am too blind to see it.

Of course there are things like trust and honesty etc. I also understand there are situations that could turn the tides and run the show in opposite direction unexpectedly, but as you've said it before in other post, we are in constant changing, hence there is no (sure) way to understand our position!

A person that we love, might (under special circumstances) change his/her behaviour that we might not like, it even could be our fault "not to responding to his/her needs correctly" this is a FACT that I accepted years ago.. But?. My main question is, when I meet someone, and this sweet feeling crawling to occupy my senses, why do I need to get defensive and alerted then..?? Because of those (past experiences)?(or somewhere I've red about it)..!!?

Ok?hands-up?!! Some of us, had a nasty experiences with supposedly loving partners, but things are not a same with the next person (might get worse or might be sweet as honey) no one knows (specially when we build a wall of defence around us).

I am not going to babble about (metaphysics), but the fact is, we get what we are expecting most (this has been proved to me personally at least 10000 times.) the direction of visions and thoughts, always change the course of this reality we are living within (on the personal level).

This unwanted or negative experiences from the past, changing something that could have been positive instead.
That's all I meant
🙂

Q...I agree with you....we get what we expect! I too have experienced this myself. I usually expect the best and that is what I get....however..there is sometimes a horse that will just throw ya for no reason. 😉

Hi Every body,

Was away the weekend with him so couldnt reply back .... Actually Freebird is right... this time i met him and i thought i should end it... he would talk at this own ease and i agree with freebird may be is is jus trying to have some good time.... I am going to go back to my country ... i told him we might not meet again and he seemed perfectly ok with it.... neither was he sad or rather there was no emotions... he is also ok if i hang around with someone... for he thinks there is no commitment so each of us can do anything we want to... This reminds me some time back he had told me that even if we are not in a relation we tend to make someone believe that something which can happen (this was when initially i had told him that there is no commitment so its ok we have a life outside) ..I think he is just trying to make most out of this relation without any emotional hangover. This time he was not even talking a lot.. but would make up by being intimate... just dont understand him. Every time i said we would nt meet again... he said lets not talk about it... enjoy the moment...Good i met him thi time... may be now i will never meet him again

Just a small question ... he spent quiet a lot o money to just come and see me.... what do you think y he did that ...?. He was like i thought we might not meet again... so before you go we should meet once.

Just a small question ... he spent quiet a lot o money to just come and see me.... what do you think y he did that ...?. He was like i thought we might not meet again... so before you go we should meet once.

Welcome back my dear Reka...you know in your heart the answer don't you? I am glad that you were able to meet him for the weekend...I believe that you have answered your own questions by being with him. What are you FEELING? please trust that. Your question about him spending a lot of money to see you. I really do not know that answer as I am not him. I have however in the past have known men to spend an enormous amount of money on women...why? got me - power? sex? cause they have it? who really knows but the bottom line here is.....and I mean the BOTTOM line. This is not about him and what he does...this is about YOU and how YOU are feeling and the changes that YOU need to make so that YOU have peace with yourself and whom ever else YOU choose to share YOUR life with.

Somehow we have been taught to give ourselves away to a man...to constantly please him, do what we think he wants us to do so that he will like us. This is not how it works...what we need to do is honor ourself, respect ourselves, if something or someone is not working...change it...make YOURSELF happy by YOUR choices and the menz will then fall into place.

I am so sorry reka but, this is one of those life lessons that we must learn and learn we will...we are all about growing right? and you are getting stronger, you are finding YOU and what you like and don't like. Life is about the journey...the destination will be what it is...your job is to create your journey so that you are enjoying yourself and this my friend is YOUR LIFE 🙂

Thinking of you,
Freebird

Thanks Freebird.... like the way you make things feel so simple.... I will try workin on it...

Take care
Reka

Hi freebird,

Jus to update you i eceived a call from him today was very sweet to me.... infact was trying to push the fact that we meet again... i said no... he was like i will check tickets for you etc.... 🙂 .... like that feeling though buti keep telling myself this is momentary.

Take care
REKA

Hi freebird,

Jus to update you i eceived a call from him today was very sweet to me.... infact was trying to push the fact that we meet again... i said no... he was like i will check tickets for you etc.... 🙂 .... like that feeling though buti keep telling myself this is momentary.

Take care
REKA

yeah well the horse named C just threw me for some reason...ouch my rump!(actually that was my ego).
a beautiful time we were having and then she had to go meet the ex for whatever unknown reason. boy that hurt. but what was worse is that i didnt take my own advice(above) and i had a rash emotional reaction.
this in turn really ticked her off and now im hurt(which i told her calmly) from her "behavior" and i feel like an ass on top of it for over reacting. my own trust issues sometimes have a knee-jerk reaction and i thought she was going to meet her ex to make me feel pain. very egotistical of me. double ouch.
her thing was that she was being pestered by him to meet her and after a barrage of emails and the occational phone call, she broke down and met for dinner. she told me that she was going to see him to test herself-to see how much she has healed.

in the end i biffed and took her actions as something to cause me harm when what she told me is that in meeting with him it actually allowed her to appreciate me even more.

im going to try that "what one expects is what one gets" thing.
-peace

TLH
OUCH man..!! sorry to hear that...!!
I hate to see this happen to honest and good people, but?. What you've done is very human, you have every right to react like this, and you can't carry your book of self- advices every damn day..!!
How ever?.in my opinion, you'd better live this alone and let it cured by the time, don't be sorry and don't ask her for forgiveness but? understanding, let her know that you can't keep holding this flip flap situation in balance any longer.
The good thing is, you've already know what went wrong and why..!! Another point is, you are the most important element here (not the A?Z elements) try to focus on yourself and find a way to get out of this circle.
Wish you luck.
🙂

tealeafhunter,

At times we just allow our emotions to flow, actually we let the oher person involved know that how we feel about the situation and this may give some1 a high afeeling that he or she controls you and could lead to her taking you for granted ...... feeling no matter how she behaves she can always come back to you. Make it very clear my friend that you cant take this anymore. Dont let your jelously show.

well i think that i am going to tell her that although i am not going anywhere physically, i am going to take a step back emotionally. it just makes no sense to be how i have been and C not being ready to match me.
its funny though, i get the sensation that she wants me to come to this conclusion. that she wants me to "throw her away" or to "tell her off". this is the type of behavior of people who feel undeserving of love or feel they are not ready to accept/give.
well whatever, its not my place to analyze the girl.

its difficult because it sometimes feels like no matter what i do its gonna suck
thanks peeps

tealeafhunter,

i can preciselyunderstand what you said... specially the last part.... im going through the same .... but this is how life is....

Move on..

well we had a discussion and it became heated. appearantly i dont listen to her...
i just think she is confused with how she is feeling and would like the space to get her emotions together. she doesnt realize that emotions are not files.
then we go to her place to pick up a bag i had left there and we sad mostly in silence. the occational small talk.
i could tell she was still mad but wanted me to stay as well.
we ended up making love. and after a discussion i chose to express some irritation/anger with the situation in a non verbal manner. at that point i saw her attitude change and she became almost closer, satisfied, and less angry. so strange.

question: do you all sometimes come across a feeling about the "appearantness" of "the script" being "written" as its being "acted" depending on the situation?

Tealeafhunter

I think that is the problem with most virgos... they hate to give in to others.. I had this conversation with my guy last night .... i hated to tell him hat but i said that good that i met you last time... i changed my opinion about you... now i i take a call on you ( to leave you or something like that) i wont regret in life .... he heard me out and i knew he was sad really sad... then i teased him about some o his old girlfriend and how now he can have good time with girls but he just wouldnt answer.... and from that day onwards he is very sweet to me really very sweet. I just dont know what he wants.... at times i feel he is just playing at times i feel he is serious about me.... but i just cant let my life move on on his whimps.... I like him a lot really do...... but then may be we are not meant for each other........ may be he doesnt feel the way i do....... or may be he doesn want to speak of his feelings......... Life is strange my friend.. really is... Take care

Reka

Hmmm
Aren't you guys kind of strange..??
If your lover is sweet, you ask (why)?? and if not, you ask the same question anyway.. its all about that wall of defence you've built around yourself, to protect yourself about something bad might happen.!!
Why don't you give yourself some free space to think and act realistic instead of spreading negativity..??
Its kind of cool and rewarding if you start looking toward the bright side and think anything possible if you want it.
🙂

YES?.Reka...
There is something wrong, but not with your Virgo?.!! You see? you only have 2 options here, either you change your view about your relationship or change your lover.
Sorry if I sound harsh or insensitive, but the fact is as long as your mind working in this way there is no hope for the better days let alone permanent relationship.
Tell me what is the meaning of this..??
"then i teased him about some o his old girlfriend and how now he can have good time with girls but he just wouldnt answer".
You push the poor guy to his limit and insulting him?what is your intention..?? Then you tell us Virgos are a gamer..?? Or being with Virgos is like riding rollercoaster's??....blah?
I'll tell you what, he is the most friendly creature around you right now, because he tolerate your strange behaviour kindly in silence. Couple of insults like this and he'll be on his way waving buh-bye.
You insult/analyse/criticise and being pushy with your enemy, not your lover.
You find yourself in any of these situations, then you'll better to look for another person in your life??.or??change your attitude.

Obone,

I respect your views my friend .. but its the way he is he just doesnt say or talk about his feelings ... i try alll possible ways to get things out of him ... he just refuses... why cant he say that i mean something to him if atall he means.... He was not like this earlier.... he used to say that he misses me or he has never felt the way he does with me with any of his friends.... NOw he has just stoped saying this and just says we will lawys be good friends and i dont need to talk with my friends a lot but i can keep in touch at my own pace and check whts happening in their life. I dont push him to insult him ... i do that so that he says that what i think abt him is wrong and this is the reality... but i know all its all in vain.... And yes i have tried to get him out of my life ... but there is something about him that binds me back to him... My heart say he is really good just a misunderstood person... my mind says he is just what he shows a selfish person ... just not able to take a decission..... Can you help me find what he feels? does he realy care... How do virgo's show they care...

Hi Reka...

I hope you don't mind if I share my thoughts with you as well...please know that these are just my thoughts from my life experience and you may choose to do what you want with them.

From a basic human view....any of us if we are not truly interested in someone we will say so...your friend as said to you that "you will always be friends" he is telling you how he feels. What so commonly happens with us is we choose to hear what we want to hear and then we begin to make excuses for the other person. Reka, you say that he is a misunderstood person...okay, so if he is..let him be misunderstood with himself not on your time or with your heart. This decision is truly up to YOU! You are creating this emotional upheaval in your life by allowing yourself to be a part of his emotional life....why?

When a man really cares about a woman, you will know it. There will be NO doubts, NO questions....he is who he is, accept him or move on. If he wanted to share his feelings he would, you cannot make someone do this....love is unconditional. You are not getting what you need from this relationship so why do you stay? Then again, maybe you do enjoy the way this relationship is...I must agree with Q here...take some time away and be by yourself...get to know you and then you will know what to do.

"Know thyself" and all else will fall into place effortlessly.

You know Reka?.

One of the major advantages of being Virgo is, to be an excellent observer and analysers, we see and value things (things that are mostly invisible to other people).

This ability (that get stronger by age, experiences and training) insure us that what we are dealing with is pure and flawless (by our personal standards of course).
On the other hand this, make us also a quick on "the conclusion" department..!!, bad or good that's how we are by the nature, and be 100% sure that your Virgo observing your every thoughts.. let alone your physical movements, one wrong move or one wrong thoughts or even a wrong question about his feelings for you (by his standards) gives him a second thought about you? hope you understand this, it's a universal law for every Virgo male or female alike.

Perhaps you did something "unintentionally" strange or wrong (by his standards) in the past that makes him stop sharing his thought or feelings with you, perhaps at that vital moment you've said something like "you are not interested to hear what he wanted to say" or even acting like you are not interested, and that's it, enough reason for him to stop sharing?. See what I mean..?? (quick on jumping into conclusion).

We are what we are and can not be change, but our senses can be directed in the way that can be very useful, what we need is a bit of understanding, I am sure that everyone of us have some "undiscovered qualities" that needed some attention and the right directions for the better understanding of our behaviours.

I really love the Freebird's comment?hell of a lady....her wisdom always respected in my heart and mind, thanks for sharing it with us lady.
🙂

Foot note
Sorry Reka?no one can help you to find what he think or care or what he feels about you but yourself.
Please take charge on your personal affair and grab it while you can, he is right in front of you so, why don't you start eye to eye conversation with him..??
Don't rely on those pre-made Q&A?you want him..?? then you will fight to get him.
Go ahead lady and fight for what you love.
ALONE
🙂

hey, first off i dont think i question when i am being treated "sweetly". maybe thats just as bad.
maybe it is a "virgo" thing. those expectations that they have listed in their mind i think it may be a little beyond human capacity-hence a common cynical attitude i have noticed as a mild pattern among "virgos".
what i have seen in speaking with a friend of mine who is in a similar situation(although his role is the opposite of mine) is that there is a common pattern of folks including myself with serious commitment problems.
i could be wrong but i think perhaps this problem is increasing with the newer and newer generations. maybe it has something to do with the speed of modern culture, the onslaught of information in the media, as well as the amount of options posed to us. i mean think about it- in the 1900's a man chose a woman to marry and that was the end of it(seemingly from my limited education concerning the matter of course). now it seems that the level of options are so many that one freezes in making a choice.
either way i think our own psychoses seek out those that fill in the blanks.
take me for instance- i am afraid of loving someone and having them leave me(its common amongst a lot of people, i know). but i feel that way due to a childhood trauma(in a freudian sense anyways). it would make sense that i find myself loving a person with commitment issues. the puzzle pieces fit together in a wierd kinda way.

Q- in your last line: Go ahead lady and fight for what you love.
ALONE
do you mean fight for loving the self?

oh and i think reka is upset by the impression that her virgo man is the one calling the shots in the relationship. when they are close its on his time, his space. reka, you probably would like to spend more time with him and he feels that way sometimes and sometimes not. its hard to not be effected by that.

Ohhh man.... TLH
You ruined my plan....hehehe..!!
You sure you are not script analyser or code breaker..??
YES?.AND? YES again..!! the older generations "fought" for what they've believed and loved, but we? the new generation see it like "product" of a mass productions, (if not this one, then the next one) kind of mentality.
Our personal accomplishments and life portfolio might be impressive, but the new shape of our life structures with our partners (new or old) calls for something else, we need to tune into their inflections and body languages. We need to reach and translate those subtexts beneath their words correctly or else we will suffer and then start to blame left and right for our fault.
Just warm up the logic and see what you can do in this current situation?sweetness is good but its not enough for the "life time commitments", same goes for all those knowledge we've gathered all the way?.people have different mentality and personality. You cant make a facit.. errrr what you American call it? a "profile"?..!! and blindingly follow it up.

Bottom line, what you see in front of you is the "challenge" itself.. you have enough gut to take the challenge?go ahead and I wish you good luck.. what am I going to call you if you get defeated? well.. your name will be inexperienced..??...naw?. experience has nothing to do with it?. Rookie..?? perhaps "if you complain about it"?
🙂

The answer is....

As freebird says....!!
Learn to love yourself "discover yourself" first....then...
well..
you know the rest.
🙂

have a peace with "thyself"....its all about..🙂

Your nic. is tuf2luv..??.... huh?.man?!!
You are too materialistic my friend....real "love" has nothing to do with "digits"?your lover got advantage with you..— so what—
You need someone to treat you great in bed?..and that's it?.don't blame on Virgo's or others..!!
Lovers like you?? deserves this kind of treatments?
cheers
🙂

Q-
well shoot, some people take their whole lives trying to love themselves. succeeding or not. if someone has much pain from serious trauma it can be difficult to not blame the self or for the person to feel "broken" or "ugly" or "unwanted".


can i ask a question or two? you dont have to answer if you dont want to.
-do you have a mate? did you have to face the "challenge"?

Hi TLH...
Well....first of all I need to know what do mean by that..??.. I had woman of my life once, many years ago that I have 2 lovely kids with?(my daughter 9 and my son 6)?we've found that we cant be with each other for some (personal reasons) so we've got separated peacefully after 17 years of partnership.. I mean peacefully?we are a great friends today and we care about each other as before "nothing have changed ,? only sexually and physically"" and we are having a really good time.. even with her new lover.. damn nice guy, in fact she asked me to (approve him) in her life?!! he accepted the fact that I am the father of the kids and their dependants on me on every day basis..
I've choose to not having a partner (my damn head and "my kids" wont allow me to have this luxury for this moment) ..I have many girl friends thou?but they stay as friends and nothing more.
Sometimes?I miss the feelings to be with someone special? "haven't found it yet" but hell?I am not looking for it?yet.

tealeafhunter...the way to move on from pain is to forgive yourself and others and then let go of the past. By holding on to what has happened, it keeps you from living in the moment - therefore keeping you from experiencing new relationships as fresh and new...this is part of the healing process and loving thyself.

Best wishes.....

Hi Q - so glad that you and your wife had a peaceful separation and remain friends today. I had wanted that with my ex as well but, he didn't so.....he took himself out of our lives...like we never existed. It has been quite a journey for me and my 3 boys - they have become very awesome men and I am sooooooo proud of them.

It takes courage to do what you and your ex did, that is what I call the true ability to love no matter what. 🙂

Tealeafhunter...because of these experiences in our lives, we have learned so many things...another reason to be grateful. I truly believe that life happens because it is supposed to..everything happens for a reason and there is a lesson to be learned in every situation - we need to find it, learn from it, accept it, thank it and move on. This what I have learned anywho on my journey...

Freebird?
I am speechless, my life story is nothing compare to yours.. being a female and rise 3 kids ALONE is something that I call bravery?.super human stuff?.I am proud of knowing you..
Sometimes life is difficult to digest for some people, I've seen people that get separated and the only way to go forward is to ignore the past, I am truly sorry that you had to experience this happening ALONE.. really form the bottom of my heart!!
I was lucky that my ex wife was intelligent enough to see the whole picture and decide to be friendly? it could be worse.
Our problem started with my job, because I had to (still is) to travel around the globe to make a documentaries specially in war and risk areas, so? she couldn't take it anymore? and I had a little time to be with my family "jet set life style " at the same time I wasn't sure what is more important?"what am I doing or, what am I suppose to be" ..I am what I am?"I am trying to be useful for the humanity"?when you take this.. then?personal life will be gone forever, let alone wife and kids.
However?.I am glad that I have some great life experience?
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Q- thanks for the info. you have such good advice, i just had to know a bit about you so that i could paint a more human picture of you in my head. just curiosity. it gives a bit more life to these pixelated discussions we have...

FB-my mom raised me and my two older brothers by herself. ive seen from the age of 7 on up to 27 what it looks like to go through a painful divorce of a 20 yr. marriage and then raise a family on ones own. my mother is a very powerful woman. you have my respect.
those "reasons" you spoke of earlier-i think your situation may be to instill you with that same kind of power if you dont already have it.
i dont know what else to say so im going to just sign off...

question:
i know this has nothing to do with virgos or horoscopes period, but i have noticed that humor is a really great way to feel good and to make others feel good.
how do you think one becomes funny?
CAN one become funny? or is it either you got it or you dont?
im not very funny and i would like to learn how to be if possible.
its not like im ultra serious or anything. its just whenever i try it doesnt work and it always comes off like im trying.

Hey......TLH
Thanks for the compliment...

You point at something that is primarily is tuned by nature.. you cant be directed to be a funny guy?."its impossible"....however ?. you can ACT as funny.. as long as it is required.....the only rule is to get free of yourself?e.g. ?not thinking or not being yourself......!!
You want to be a clown..??....then?. for whom— And for what reason..??
See.......... That's the BIG Questions to overcome?!!
And....why you want to be funny..??... to service and amusing the other....??
Stop reading those "dating stuff and rules".

To Quote Q-Bone on "Freebird?
"I am speechless, my life story is nothing compare to yours.. being a female and rise 3 kids ALONE is something that I call bravery?.super human stuff?.I am proud of knowing you..."

I concur with you 110% Q-Bone about this extra special lady...To see this woman in the flesh is a sight to behold....she is truly beautiful and her three sons are equally handsome and darn attractive. (Wish I was their girlfriend:-) One might be forgiven thinking to oneself....all flash and flutter and superficial beauty.......but the truth couldn't be farther from the truth. Freebird and her family have a dignity and star quality to all of them and thier unaffected beauty could quite easily take your breath away.....everybody wants to be with the Bird because she makes them feel so damn good and I mean everybody....men, women and children and even furry creatures:-) One phonecall to the bird and you are transported to the lands of bubbles, giggles, wisdom and passion. She does countless good deeds that no-one ever knows about - her family always come number one - she is just "The FREEBIRD".

Q-Bone - also is a dear pal - he too is equally impressive always in his honesty and unique-ness - hey and so devilishy attractive too Mister though he can't see it himself...all the women do big time!!!:-) Both never judge anyone - hey if god doesn't judge anyone till they die, then why should we!!!

So just thought I would say this about them and about all the gang here on this Duncan Board.....every one seems to have unconditioanl positive regard for everyone even if we don't agree with a certain point of view.

I've joined another forum recently (it's completely different to this every which way) - but boy, did I get a shock, lots of nice people there but equally lots are oh so rude - they fcuk each other, call each other the crudest names, they are racist - the spit, venom, hatred vibes are palpable....me refuseth to condescend to their lows - but I just try to make my point in my own unique way to them....when they call be bictch, hoare etc.....my usual standard reply is...I'm all broken up over that (as Clinty would say) - it drives them wild:-)

Anyway, all my lovely pals on this board, let's keep duncan-ing as only we can.

A x

Ohh my GOD...OHH my GOD...lady ALANA is here..
Good to see you again lady?.. I've missed you dearly.. "trust me on that"?damn good to see you again..
Your comments about the freebird was almost close to what I had in my mind about her?she is a beauty and wisdom itself?I am still speechless ?.and you too?you two are really special?to say the truth.. you two are kind of "blessing" in this board ?no matter what?I cant even imagine this board without you two?.sometimes??.sometimes?I really wish to BE with you guys in reality.. alas?. its not going to happen?but I really LOVE you guys?I mean.. real LOVE with respect..
I am honoured to communicate with you two and I LOVE you both equally and dearly.
Thanks for the kind word about me.
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Oh my beautiful Mister Virgo Q-Bone

"sometimes?I really wish to BE with you guys in reality.. alas?. its not going to happen?"

Hey, have I got news for you Mister......you don't know what me and the Freebird are really like!!! Who knows the day, the hour or the moment, when our paths will cross in reality....who says you ain't never gonna come to Ireland to visit me or go the the U.S. to visit the Freebird....nothing is carved in stone in this world!!!, that's for sure!!!:-) Or who knows, I might just choose to visit you in your own sweet country on my next European vacation!!!:-)

I joke I joke I joke...or do I!!!:-).....once you have a nice cold bottle of wine and your party shoes ready, I will come a-tappin on your door and then Mr. V. sparks will fly so high

Thank you for your kind words...........and always remember you are second to nobody.

A x

You've steal my heart key long ago....and you own it? dear lady....
The wine is ready and cold enough and you don't need to knock on my door?this door is always open to special one?......you know that:...!!
Alana.... .You joke..you joke...you joke....I am not...well this time I am dead seriouse....🙂
you are just amazing...🙂
you know that I love womans more... when they are playing..🙂
anyway.....
glad to see you again..🙂

Stolen......
sorry my damn english

Oh? facially ? (you look perfect on your picture)?you know that we Virgos are busy with that stuff... I even study your hands (the length of your fingers? and your hands compare to your face?see??hehehe ( to speak of)?damn Virgos?lol
But??. I mean this and really mean this?you two ALANA and Freebird?are amazing?.absolutely amazing—.you two are greatest ever happen in this planet.. in this time or in this reality?. perhaps you don't realise it yet? but I don't care?I just love you both?dearly and honestly?..so? sue me.
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