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Posted by sunfish
Hello everybody, this is my first post. I am hoping you can help me with this very special virguy I have been seeing since June. We met on Memorial Day weekend and it was an instant attraction. He sent me a text a couple of weeks later for a date and from the start, we hit it off. We texted several times a day and saw each other at least 3 times a week then we started to spend almost every weekend together. He made sure we had plans for the week. Around the second month of dating he asked me to join him for a business trip in late September and also New Years away with other couples which I booked a few weeks later in a leap of faith. We spent many quiet and fun times together, sometimes talking all night, sometimes quietly sitting next to eachother watching the sunset. We didnt really talk much about us because I wanted things to grow organically if it was to happen. Everything was fine until about one month ago. He wanted to have the "talk". He said because he has such respect for me and because he was never in this kind of relationship before, he wanted to take it a bit slower and reevaluate where things are going between us. I think what he wanted to say was that he had really strong feelings for me, and he was scared. So for a month he started texting less and it has come to the point where he contacted only once a week and then canceled a couple of times. I put my foot down and told him that I adored him and like spending time with him but if he didnt feel the same, not to make plans he couldnt keep nor excuses for not replying back in a timely fashion. I also reminded him he may want to take his personal belongings from my place since we dont see eachother regularly anymore and he may need it. He said not to make an excuse to come over, but he couldnt take it cause he was going back to work after our talk and it would look odd. I saw him about 3 times since the talk, talked some more but he's still reevaluating and #1 priority is work since his company may be bought out soon and he needs to put all his time into it til January. I just saw him 6 days ago and the chemistry is still over the top! He said we should do this more often and I joked that it's really up to him. I told him that I missed. i sent him a text yesterday to wish him a safe flight for the holidays but no reply. Is this his way to saying goodbye? Or is is he expecting somehow tha
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dear, dear, dear... I saw myself in your story, sunfish. If a guy gets you out of your element, then there is possibly something not going quite right. Usually our intuition is good at signaling, but we choose to ignore. Your reaction was abrubt.... I did the same and I am not proud of it. I act in haste when I have a high percentage liking for the guy.

Give it time. Definitely. If you can, stop messaging him, it only adds to more confusion.

If you haven't invested any money to your New Year's trip, then be prepared for it not happening. If you did invest, then be ready for funfilled but a trip on your own. Or, get your money back. But do not think of the trip as an anker. I had a trip planned with my Virguy, which never happened.

good luck.
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Hi FUM, No the trip is not happening if you read my last post. I was totally ignoring my strong intuition looking for reasons and excuses, which is how I found this board in the first place. I don't text, he keeps contact about once a week I guess for his selfish reasons. I will not be so available from now on. I get it now after 2 months of his games. Some men, especially if they are long time bachelors are addicted to the thrill of the chase. I will be able to get my money back, no worries :-)
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Sunfish he's a bachelor, bachelors know all the mechanisms to hook a woman and they know all the defense mechanisms to cool things down and inevitably disappear on a woman if he has to, one foot in one foot out.

I hope you can get your money back and if you can't get it back well as my friend says "charge it to the game" you played and you lost try not to let it happen again.

My thoughts say this...He asked you to go on the trip, instead of using the 2 months to bond he chose to back up, there could be a few reasons for that mindset, one of them being that if the trip went bust that he would not have any emotional attachments to you so he could easily walk away without much guilt over it. This could be the cause for the distance, it's not like he cancelled on you or anything as of now the trip is still on right? Seems he's avoiding any emotional attachments and of course having no attachments gives him time to have a back up plan and to pursue his own interest .

He keeps contact because he's interested but not enough to form an emotional attachementhim being a bachelor most likely have dated all types of women, made mistakes, he's just well up on his game and he understands how to keep the door open and keep things casual, men like him know how to play and they know how to keep women wanting, waiting and needing and especially they know how to pick the type of women that will do just that...wait

If you go or not it will be okay, just make sure you have your own reasons to go if you decide to go so you can feel a certain level of control and not feel like your being strung along...

Damn he baited you in with that trip...true playa...That trip was months away but he snagged you anyway! LOL WTF!! They sure know how to lure and seduce
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You know Tiki, I never thought about him as a player/bachelor. Why ofcourse he would know how to play the game! He's been doing it all his adult life!! I totally fell for it and I didn't know the rules of the game which I think he thought was kind of refreshing. BTW, I accepted two trip plans thrown at me which we already took in September and was great...but it was about 3 weeks after that he pulled back. We really connected, along with many weekend trips in between for summer getaways. Hmm... makes sense that he felt a bit too close for comfort. I guess the end of year trip would have put the nails in the coffin for good in his mind, lol.

No he didnt cancel nor did I. I'm sure though he's thinking it's up to him and being a Virgo, analyzing it to death, haha. Nope I'm not going and I will wait and avoid as long as I can to tell him my decision. I will get back the cost of the trip in miles so not much lost except cancellation fee. I got played, no doubt about it!

Let me ask you something... do you think being the lone bachelor among all of his friends, that he needs to keep up a certain status quo? His friend once told me that he is falling for me and that it's a real conundrum for him. That he's a rogue and although women have tried, I can never change him, to which I replied why would I want him to change, I like things the way they are. I got along well with all his friends but I feel like they want him to keep the single status because they secretly envied his freedom and used him to get away from their troubled relationships.
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Be patient, he may just resurface as if nothing happened and go back to his old self, he's still around and thus far the trip is still on. His pulling back is normal, he made it clear he's not ready, so of course the thing to do is pull back some as to slow things down.

He's an independent person, most men that are very independent have an aversion to being coupled up, it's a very conflicting feeling, he feels his freedom which is his life is in jeopardy, independent men have LIMITS, meaning he can only do so much and go so far before he begins to feel his freedom is in jeopardy, the tug of this conundrum sets in and he pulls away, don't let his pulling away mislead you, give him the benefit of the doubt but don't plan your life around him either.

No one really know how he feels so you can't really go by a 3rd person, maybe the friend was attempting to gauge your feelings and go back to your virgo and dish it all to sway him not to get involved heavily with you especially since they live through him and his single life, listening to a third person can surely keep you hanging on even when you probably shouldn't. Let's not jump ahead and make this difficult and mind bending...The trip is on, observe how that pans out.

Hate to see you waste your money like that even if you can get them back in miles.
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I have plenty of traveling to do in the mean time and near future. I welcome it, need to go to Europe soon anyway. I am a private person and I dont kiss and tell so his friend was not able to gauge anything from my answer. Yes the trip is still on in his head but that will change in due time. I have given him the benefit of doubt for two months but I now know that he has limitations and honestly, I don't want to change anybody. I liked him the way he was when we met. I still like him the way he is now along with his fears, although I wish he was able to talk about it. I just don't like his cowardice, but I guess it's prevalent and normal. We have a tendency to put up a wall when we don't feel secure.

I hear you Tiki about being patient.. but I am in the process of living fully and crossing off stuff on my bucket list. I probably sound like an old lady but I want to do it while I'm still young to enjoy it. We have to let toxic people go in order to make room for others who truly belong in our lives. I can't feed into someone who can't get beyond their tiny universe. He made me scratch my head and doubt myself but it's a very good lesson learned.

But I will keep posting meanwhile how it all transpires!
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Don't waste precious time on unavailable men/men with emotional limitations or that bucket list will never ever get done LOL.

Sucks that he could do all the trips together and be with you and then suddenly back pedal out but that's part of the dating process these days and it seems more and more this is also part of a man's emotional process as well, it's not bad but it's different and sometimes annoying, IMO people don't seem to be able to go the distance anymore *shrugs*

Yes keep us updated, I do hope things turn around...