Virgo men are skilled manipulators!!! :@

Virgo men are skilled manipulators!!!

D'uh! 😄

No we don't do it on purpose to hurt people, unless we have been wronged beyond belief.

When we are being indirect, it's obvious something is up. I personally never had the heart to outright tell a woman it was over. So I always tried to frustrate them into breaking up with me [never worked].

He is toying with you, don't entertain him if he can't give you a straight answer.

Do you love me or not?
Can you be committed to me or not?

Only accept yes or no, answers.

Virgo and let go?

this problem is solved only by you Lisa. Virgo won't help when it is over. pain in the neck does not know he is one.

Okay ...that really scares me. As i have already mentioned, my virgo guy indirectly communicates with me and today he was being an out right rude SOB. ignoring me, when i spoke to him..he was beyond shy but not the type of shyness that he used to be...basically i might as well have spoken to a brick wall. This other girl gave him her number infront of me(yeah...his good mate told me that he always does this)...yet he still won't stop staring at me at every chance he got and at times it felt like he was trying real hard not to look at me. He turns around and starts acting all friendly to me....i mean come on...all i want is for him to tell me whats going on and for him to be HONEST. I feel like i've been kicked to the curb and the most horrible part is is that i have to work with the guy. I don't know

It felt like he wanted me to see him flirty with this girl. I know he flirts by nature but i'm beginning to wonder if he wants me to let him go (though it sometimes feels like he won't let go)...he has been cold to me like this before but bloody hell....i'm only hurting because he has not being a man about this and coming to me DIRECTLY.

Virgo men are skilled manipulators?


....... hahahahaha

Actually cancers are better at it. From an astro point of view, I guess it depends on the sign. I don't think they are -- you have to watch a virguy more than just listen to him.

I learned that the hard way 😉 If his actions do not meet up with his words then he's a fraud. When you find this out run as FAST!!!! as you can. Virgos hate being exposed hahaha, they like exposing other people, but when the shoe is on the other foot, holy crap, they can't take it.

It'll be just like dealing with the taz if you catch them in a lie. They'll do all they can do to prove that, 'Its all in your head'.

hahaha


Now .... a cancer man on the otherhand. Those are the skilled ones 😉

LOL@being caughth out in a lie - oh yes I know this very well 🙂

Lisa get on with your life, you're being toyed with....no need to ask questions that you already know the answer to. He wants you, he wants you not, he wants you, he wants you not - how old is this man? sheesh!!!

If he's back with his ex (I thought Virgos dont go back to exes?? LOL) do you really want to hang around anyway? Arent you happy that you found out so you dont have to live the lie anymore?

"he was hooking up with his ex and was trying to find a way to get rid of me"


Are you talking about the same Virgo man in which you were attempting hold to some kind of honor with you, yet, you two didn't even have a commitment in place?

If he is hooking up with his ex or any other woman for that matter ... is none of your business. He is single and has a right to hook up with whomever he chooses.

The only reason he would have to find a way to get rid of you is if you are up his ass. He's not your man in the first place, so what are you even doing clinging onto him, in order for him to have be rid of you?

And then after you said that ..... you went on to talk about all these contacts you have going on with him, attempting to keep holding him to you, when he's not even yours.


Get some pride, and dignity ... and walk the fuck a way.

Apparantly, you are letting him consume your energy .. for you are still focused on everything he says and does .. which is the opposite of walking away.



btw ... the fact that his game is detectible, makes him lousy at manipulation and cunning.

He's not a good con-man, you are just embarassed about being duped.


So, remove this energy from your being, and actually walk away, which = he is non-existent to you, so it doesn't matter what he says or does because you won't even notice to be bothered by it.

I am in the same situation.
Only difference is , in this case he is trying to get back to me.

Very interesting is this fact- Last time he was the one who strated seeing this girl. I sensed it - he admitted and then I moved on. He dated this girl for 9 months by now and might have been physically active with her.

He does not seem to have completely broken off with her and at the same he has told me he wants to see me again.
He told me he has no one on line. So I gave a hint to that girl. That girl seems to have picked up the hint. She is now doubly aggressive with him to make him commit to her.

We are about to start a new phase and I am not sure if I should do that.
1. Should i think of that other girl or think for myself?
2. Although I gave her a hint, she is not contacting me directly but pushing him more.
3. Why would he come back? First time we were half way thru the road and she had appeared. We were upto the point of getting physical but had not done so. So I can say we have a long way to explore each other.
4. May be, just may be, he is testing his relationship with the other girl to make sure she is the one?

Help me, about the course of action i should take.

Posted by Ike
If you were a scorp woman he prolly wouldn't do this .

Aint that the truth. Lol. I am a scorp who just started dating a Virgo man who I absolutely adore. With that being said, there is no way that I would be dealing with, contemplating about, or exerting energy on a man who I am just dating (with no commitment) who is behaving this way. I realize that not every relationship is going to be perfect and there are going to be bumps in the road. But this situation just sounds like a case of pure disrespect. What he is doing is not because he is a Virgo but b/c he can, like any man would.

Lissanth, walk away and don't think about him anymore. I know it maybe hard, if you still have feelings for him. But the more you continue to question him and the ridiculous things that he has done the more you are feeing into this mess. Let it go and just walk away. With all do respect, it does not appear that he is the one with the problem letting go, It appears to be you. I am not trying to be mean at all. I just want to be honest. I think many times women talk themselves into staying in bad situations or entertaining bad situations. To add insult to injury, many times people encourage them to do this. So, I am being honest. Truthfully, he does not really know you nor does he necessarily owe you anything. In an ideal world he would just break it off. But he did not. He is a jerk. So, you must take control and responsibility for your own life and walk away. He should not have to tell you "I don't want to be with you". The blatant disrespect (alone) should be enough for YOU to run for the hills.

Be smart, be strong and let go. I wish you the best of luck!

Posted by Lissanth
Gee Ike that actually makes me feel soooooooooo much better! i hope no one ever does anything to you because you are a particular sign.

I dont think that Ike meant that this guy did this b/c of your astrological sign. I think he means that generally speaking Scorp women don't put up with all of this bull and would have set boundries and demanded respect in the begining. Either this guy would have decided he was not up for the challenge or would have shaped up b/c he knew he had to. See that is the thing - he did what you allowed him to do. It has nothing to do with he did it b/c you are a specific sign. It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that you allowed him to lie and feed you a load of crap on countless occasions. Thats why he did it. Just breaking it down like I would want for someone to do for me.

So I always tried to frustrate them into breaking up with me [never worked].

Ladies read this and keep analysing. including me. we are slow.

Posted by Lissanth
Thanks Natural. I realise that i put up with a load of crap from him. I dont want to use the age thing but he's 27 and i just turned 20 so i was not very experienced to know exactly what he was doing---i mean i knew alot of things were not the way i wanted them to be but i still allowed it anyway because i was blinded by the intense sexual attraction. The attraction is still there intensely but i guess i decide to listen to my intuition.

Well, I guess it really boils down to what you want. If you just want a sexual relationship with this man, then maybe this is not a bad situation as long you can separate your feelings from sex. But if you are looking for a relationship, then leave him alone. Girl, you need to listen to more than your intuition. Intuition comes into play when you THINK something is going on but there is no concrete proof. The man has told you that he is messing around with other women. It is no longer a matter of trusting "your intution". Now, it's a matter of looking at the FACTS and making the decision if you are worth more than what he has TOLD you HIMSELF that he is willing to offer.

He wont admit that he is--although he keeps saying i should not care yet he always asks me if i'm seeing anyone and getting upset and jealous if i am. I suppose that was his way of keeping me hanging on.

It's cool--i realise now what you meant Ike--although usually as a Gem i dont stand for rubbish from a man or anyone--i completely just lost my head in this situation.

You only believe what you want to believe... no one can make you do anything. You just wanted to believe that he wasn't cheating on you.

Posted by natural25

Posted by Lissanth
Thanks Natural. I realise that i put up with a load of crap from him. I dont want to use the age thing but he's 27 and i just turned 20 so i was not very experienced to know exactly what he was doing---i mean i knew alot of things were not the way i wanted them to be but i still allowed it anyway because i was blinded by the intense sexual attraction. The attraction is still there intensely but i guess i decide to listen to my intuition.

Well, I guess it really boils down to what you want. If you just want a sexual relationship with this man, then maybe this is not a bad situation as long you can separate your feelings from sex. But if you are looking for a relationship, then leave him alone. Girl, you need to listen to more than your intuition. Intuition comes into play when you THINK something is going on but there is no concrete proof. The man has told you that he is messing around with other women. It is no longer a matter of trusting "your intution". Now, it's a matter of looking at the FACTS and making the decision if you are worth more than what he has TOLD you HIMSELF that he is willing to offer.

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Dont look at age as too much of a factor, had this, did this, he was in his 40's............Virgo

Posted by Perfect Gem Angel

Posted by natural25

Posted by Lissanth
Thanks Natural. I realise that i put up with a load of crap from him. I dont want to use the age thing but he's 27 and i just turned 20 so i was not very experienced to know exactly what he was doing---i mean i knew alot of things were not the way i wanted them to be but i still allowed it anyway because i was blinded by the intense sexual attraction. The attraction is still there intensely but i guess i decide to listen to my intuition.

Well, I guess it really boils down to what you want. If you just want a sexual relationship with this man, then maybe this is not a bad situation as long you can separate your feelings from sex. But if you are looking for a relationship, then leave him alone. Girl, you need to listen to more than your intuition. Intuition comes into play when you THINK something is going on but there is no concrete proof. The man has told you that he is messing around with other women. It is no longer a matter of trusting "your intution". Now, it's a matter of looking at the FACTS and making the decision if you are worth more than what he has TOLD you HIMSELF that he is willing to offer.

Dont look at age as too much of a factor, had this, did this, he was in his 40's............Virgo

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Although, I think astrology and age does play a large part in relationships and interaction I also do not think it is the gospel. I think a man will be a man. Regardless of the age or sign, if a man who is looking for a sexual relationship finds a woman who he is attracted to who will allow this sort of relationship with little to no questions asked, he will go for it. And honestly, can we blame him for that? We cannot be mad at him. He was upfront. In fact, he admitted what he was doing.

Again, we as women should not place the blmae on an astrological sign or age or any other variable that the man might be dealing with. It is our lives and we have to take ownership over our feelings, actions, etc. I am not saying that this guy is not a jerk, b/c obviously he is. But we as women have to be strong so jerks like him will not find us and prey on us. A jerk can always spot weakness a mile away.

I agree but somewhere inside of me i thought that him being much older and wanting to teach me about life meant that he would want to protect me as well. What he was doing actually was warning me of the dangers out there in the world while making me idealizing him as someone who only wanted good for me. The result was that i believed he wouldnt deliberately hurt me just to get his own satisfaction. Also, he travels alot and can get many women so i didnt believe he would intentionally use me just for the sex esp when it is so available to him.

Yes it is indeed a stereotype but honestly you would not expect a man of a certain age to act like a teenager ---that means they havent developed and that is very odd. Certainly he talks and acts like a mature man but I suppose he may be mature in certain areas but may not be emotionally mature. He appears quite manipulative but being this way doesnt necessarily mean he is immature or isnt mature for his age. I suppose being manipulative means that he will take what he wants when he does regardless of age, maturity and my inexperience. He was constantly trying to "teach" me stuff...I believe that he has not matured emotionally because of the hurt he went through with previous girlfriends.

wanting to teach me about life meant that he would want to protect me as well. What he was doing actually was warning me of the dangers out there in the world while making me idealizing him as someone who only wanted good for me.
...can get many women so i didnt believe he would intentionally use me just for the sex esp when it is so available to him.

one big dangers for a 20 year old girl is running into a man who would confuse any woman.

He would want to be Nr 1 for any woman he meets without having enough time and attention for them. Yet you think you know what is going on in the world. then keep good working.

Why is all this energy put into men to whom all you women know it's over, or will never be the way you need it to be for your happiness?


You know this .. yet, sit here, and in your real life ... and put forth all your emotional energy into trying to figure out why.


I don't get it. This is why men don't want you ... because you have no emotional control. There isn't a guy out there who would want a woman to whom can't even pick her own goddam self up and do what is right by her ... because if she cannot do what is right by her own damn self, then how is she going to be able to do right for him, or their future children together.


Seriously ladies ..... if the guy is a fucker then get some fucking pride and dignity and walk the fuck away. I don't mean "talk" about how you feel about it ..


.. walk away.



Geeeezzzzzzz

And here we have a 20 year old making up excuses for the guy treating her bad, so she can continue to be a fool for him to continue treating her bad.


What the hell happen to people these days?

Why don't women have pride anylonger?

Why don't women have pride anylonger?

Great question....

"I don't get it. This is why men don't want you ... because you have no emotional control. There isn't a guy out there who would want a woman to whom can't even pick her own goddam self up and do what is right by her ... because if she cannot do what is right by her own damn self, then how is she going to be able to do right for him, or their future children together.


Seriously ladies ..... if the guy is a fucker then get some fucking pride and dignity and walk the fuck away. I don't mean "talk" about how you feel about it ..


.. walk away."

HELLO!! Couldn't have said it better P

If a woman isn't loving herself, if she's accepting bad treatment, How can a man trust her, love her, want her? trust her with his life, with his kids life, with his money, his love, he CAN'T and he WON'T, he will treat her like a dog if she don't show a sense of love and worth for herself by not accepting neglect, therefore he will not only NOT respect her, he will string her along, use her, and lie to her and will never consider her as anything more than an easy f*ck. I know we ladies are better than this, I know we are, walk away from silly narcissistic assclown commitment phobic men, they are not worth the shit you wipe off your ass LOL!

lol amen!!