what should i do? (Page 2)

On the topic of religion?. I don?t believe in any religion (oppose) all of those? whoever I believe in power of nature and existence.

IMHO religion and God is a tool of slavery created by the man to explain the power of nature and the fear for unknown to himself, generation to generation heart to heart? it resides so deep in human souls that very few can live without it?!

It is an ancient poison that eat us from within and separate us from what we really are.. as I have mention it before in the religion board take a look at a new born baby..!! Does she/he know any GOD..?? let alone believe in such creature..?? What is a different between child born in Christian or Muslim or other religion belief..?? Why we are all gather together and helping (hand to hand) to destroying the humanity under the name of GOD and religion??

Take a look at the world today?. I was just studying the (nature of the prophecies) for the end of the world, the world that we've created, live on it and struggle in it with our all natural limitations, has to be ended by some bloody, barbaric and horrible actions (dictated and prophesized) by some crack smokers form all religion around the world for the glory of some sort of unseen creature called GOD ?!! And trust me 70-80% of the people on this planet believe on it.

Not that I believe on those junks, but really? Is this what we need to be called a HUMAN? Honestly? I don?t waste my limited time on GOD and Angels of heaven? the main Idea behind those is killing and? more killing and blood shed follow by slavery if you ask me.

Why we intentionally poison our kids mentality with this monster that is the only reason for this manslaughter since the beginning of the civilisation..??

I can feed many of this in religion board since this place is belongs to Virgo stuff..!!

AMEN Qbone. The stage is yours.

Thanx for explaining the menaing of your nickname. I get it you are into New Age thinking. I like it. Would like to hear more about it. Humanity has gone through lot of turmoil in the name of religion. Pick up any region of the world. And it has history of either war on the question of superiority of religion or race.

In ancient times the men of knowledge used the fear of god to maitain law and order in society. Now those were the less evolved
times. The fear of god was used not just to maintian order but also to exert power and tighten arbitary controls. Then add to thisthe tendency to limit the economic resources to one's own group. Created war of tribes/societies and religion became the backgrond of it. Religion was used to gather armies and commit worst human crimes in name of god.

To be Continued........

Ohh...no lady.. I am not new ageist as well....ATM I can't be categorized under any ISM...
I just can't stand the religion.. That is all.

New age is deformation and assimilations of western culture and eastern belief and Ideas of existence, it is questioning the same old question that brought us religion in the first place.

ARE WE ALONE UNDER THIS VASTNESS OF THE COSMOS..??

The religions gives demons-angels and Gods to comfort us?!! Whereas New age give us the same in form of unseen entities from constellation X in alpha quadrant sector or, 10th dimensions of something blah.. blah? or UFO's?. its simply the same stuff in a new cover. What I call the modern superstitions.

Superstition is the main drive of this abominations in the human soul, to certify the superstitions we've created the religion, take a look at all scripts, holy books all of them is based on superstitions from Muslim point of view up to Judaism and Christianity?Oral and written words like how to handle a woman, how to eat, even how to got the toilet?for heaven sake?.this madness is limitless.

On the other hand there are billions of Galaxies out there each with their own portions of billions of stars ? and those stars certainly with their own solar system and planets, what will be the religion point of view when we find another type "s" of human also exist ..?? Now? who is the human..?? Who was first us or them..?? perhaps their look or way of living scare the hell out of us..??
Shall we start a war against them..?? Or send a missionary to their home planet ? Who will be the first.. Muslims or Christian or Judaism..?? As we destroyed the whole Indian cultures and replaced it forcefully with our belief?To just represent their belief mixed up with holy Jesus and rename it as New age 500 years later?.!! Same goes for south American cultures or native Americans.

Shall I continue more..?

It is the time to stop following these religions?. And start to look around and accept what we are.. There is lot to do ? learn, and time is limited for every one of us, its not helping when an Orthodox called the tsunami disaster "a revenge of God on the Muslim side of the planet, because they don?t believe in what we believe", time to wake up and turn apart this dark side of humanity called religion.

With regards

Awwwwww Cancerbuddy that is so sweet of you. Like I had mentioned Qbone & you are both great shoulders to rely upon. 🙂

Qbone dear would you expand ATM & ISM to the ignorant me?

That mention of Tsunami opens a floodgate. What does anybody mean by Muslim side of the world? Do those ignorant people know that there were many white people who died there? Who were either holidaying or had made this place as their retirement home? And Srilanka is majority Buddhist. And the majority of those fishermen who got washed away in India were christians. So whom exactly was God Almighty punishing? And why God didn't spare even little innocent kids? Like one of my friend says if God is there and punishes the sinners, then why children are traumatised? Why do they have to bear the brunt of sins comitted by the adults?

Qbone ofcourse you can say more.

My objection to institutionalised religion is in the way it is used to exploit people. Why do people listen to the "fear of danger to the religion"? Why they dont learn from the fearless way by which Jesus Christ challenged the then exploitative system both at the ecclesiastical & political levels? Why dont they learn that he had never meant for people to use his name and create religious wars and hostility?

Today's time the humans have evolved to that level where they need not use fear to instill order, but only reasoning and understanding. It would be better that all those great divine personalities be taken as great philosophers/thinkers who had come to this earth to create some consciosuness in humans about better & evolved living.

I think the world is gradually begining to adapt what it finds is appropriate to achieve globalisation of humanity. But I am a bit pessimistic about if humans will ever give up fear of religious institutions and their wrath.😢

Ok Qbone! I get it. By ATM you mean At The Moment & ISM is the last 3 words of belief system like - Buddh-ism, Pragmat-ism ... right? If not then enlighten me!!!

Hi C-B

C-B welcome back man?. As I've said I don?t mean to scare or attack anybody and I was thought that I should point it out?no big deal?.!

Cheers..

🙂

Hi Loony bird..
Yes lady? you are correct about those abbr?..heaven knows how many time I forced my self to stop using those?. But.. I still do?!

Hehe

🙂

Loonybird

Yes lady.. I am still shocked by the comments of that fanatic orthodox?. And have no idea why the media even published that comments?(was 2 days or so after the disaster).

Anyway? do you believe in and promote the Globalism..?? Newage is a part of the Globalism (religion without leader).!

All old "legitimate" Religions warned us about it..!Do you believe in their warnings..??

Yes Qbone I strongly believe in Globalism. Like I mentioned earlier great philosophers have come on this earth to teach the humans a much more evolved form of living. The humans made gods out of them. I consider them as reformers, who tried to evolve new systems to suit the changing soio-eco order.

Peviously I mentioned Christianity to me means equality. Specially upliftment of the underdog. It also means to me - Consciousness regarding care of sick people (ceating consciousness that leprosy is not contagious, can be treated and the lepers shouldnt be abandoned). Indian philosophy is too vast. The divine aspect of it extends to art form. Music, dance & Yoga. Buddhism- practice of non-violence even towards animals/birds/insects. The list is endless. The modern world ISM (prgmatism,existentialism,realism..)

Every thought has soemthing to offer. Jean Jacque Rousseau is not just remembered as 'father of French Revolution' & an inspiration in forming the preamble of french Constitution but also as a Pioneer in Child Psychology.

I am very much interested in studying the economic impact of the philosophy of early modern times in Europe. 🙂

BTW I am not aware that the old "legitimate" Religions warned us about Globalism. I would love to read those "warnings" LOL

I dont take it as warnings but "blessings". It just means that we are moving towards larger sense of aceptance of all humanity.

Globalism in general can't be accomplished without destroying the old "religion" belief system, I mean all.. Christian/Judaism and Islam all of them, too dangerous to doing so and if push it promotes revolting and world wars.

For ages people developed their local rules "based upon regional belief/ traditions and the "geopolitical" system" that based on the "natural resources and their national income" hence their sovereignty.

Is it wise to have a global government..??

Is it wise to have a global government..??

hmmmmmmmm...... i veery ideal state. Was part of my course in my under graduate course.
It has many pros and cons.
It requires very intense planning, an attitude of neness among people. And exactly who will be the policy framing body. We all knnow that what is UNO all about? Who frames the policies and how many will actually accept it? How the policy makers are going to take care of the opponents? Will there be democracy or what? One willhave ot work it alloout very very carefully. Not before the whoel world awakens to and accepts the conept of globalisation & a global governmet. There are emany many issues.

What are your opinions on it?

Loonybird

About the warnings, read the bible and the revelation, and read the articles about all religions and their branches and their interpretations and point of view, and see how many generations this "superstitions" affect the mind and hearts of humans. Like "mark of the beast" and "signs" of the end of the world, I mean after eons people are still busy with these stuff, funny? This is not even enough?!!Now (new ageists) also join their club and look in to this issues in form of reading Maya and Inca calendars and warns us for "end is coming".! Predictions were the year 2000? now it is 2012?this madness never ends..!!

They are all doing one thing alright "Globally"?..CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE HUMAN AND ALL LIVING BEING in this small planet..!!

As I've issued above (about Alien visitor) most humans are superstitious, corrupt, power hungry and generally Alien to each other and in most cases hate each other, our (ethnic- culture- traditions- religion and belief- life philosophies etc.) are different even in two neighbouring nations, so the Globalism would fail unless something very BAD and horrible happen like series of "Global earth disasters" or something, that reduce and kill billions of humans, so much that humans forget about their differences and back grounds and seek refuge to each other, then together start to build up something like world government with peace and harmony.

Until then, the results of pushing Globalism will always end up with Anarchy, protest and eventually local wars.

This Globalism idea exist today in form of "economy dominations" the result of their movements and greed produce a lot of instabilities specially in "oil rich" areas in the world, they use the world's super powers military might to force their "corrupt ideas" globally "hence the local wars" and sadly at the end will be a "world war" this scares the hell out of me.

The Impacts of this kind of domination and wars will stay in hearts and memories of the remaining generations and they will never cooperate in the way they should, like (last time we tried, we killed each other).

Yes talking about the world coming to an end, yes every text talks about it. I know about it.But warning about "globalisim"? That I didnt understand. I am saying in reference to your previous post.

The economic dominations and economic blocks are in a certain way a process of globalism which is not the outcome of healthy pratices. Like for example in some countries to go one doesnt require a visa if one belongs to so & so country. Now what is the point in it? When you are allowing the some? And this thing about humans oming to an understnading after a series of global disasters- well for some time they will surely come together. But that togehterness will last only till one of them starts doing better thna the other and wnats to consolidate the rewards to his family. And the struggle goes on & on.....

LOL is there any end to the human greed—

Looneybird

If you kindly cut and paste this link, you'll get the idea..(warning.. long reading)

http://www.globalismnews.com/prophetic.html

and if you find it interesting then read the whole site?.you get crazy after that?hehe

http://www.globalismnews.com/

cheers...😉

Qbone!
Thanx for giving the link for globalism. Skipped through it. Yes it is vast- and intense. One hting that i have figured out is that soembody in oldentimes claimed htat soembody up ther doesn't like the idea of humans uniting. Well i hope what i perseived is correct.

Need to go through this in leisure times. Keep the knowledge flowing Q! 🙂

Looney Bird

Hey Qbone correct me if I am wrong. I just read about those pointy hats with horns...are they the vikings that we read about? My I want to meet one of them if they do exist. Famed for a permanent hard feelings below the belt LOL😉

Enlighten us Qbone. 🙂

Hey.. what do you know?!!
Para is back and he is talking about the "Thor", welcome back..!!

And looneybird?.

Its not about his "Helmet" as para suggested.. its about his "Hammer called Mij?lnir" pronounced " meeyoulneer" and "unlike" that American fabricated idiot "superman" and the rest of the gangs, he has his place with respect in Nordic legends as GOD like hero.

More of these can be found here..

http://www.nordic-life.org/nmh/nordiclore.htm

The lore is really beautiful "if you see it from the Nordic point of view".

Qbone!
Had a cursory glance of the site mentioned by you above. Need more leisure time for it. Looks very informative. There is some mention of Buddha too. You call Superman fabricated- LOL. Right. The same ould go with any figure representing a folklore, unless proven historically of its real existence will be treated as fabricated .

Looneybird

At some point you are right a traditional "Superhero" comes from "Traditions" and social need to respond against "unwanted situations". Where all humans are helpless.

I am not religious but why would anyone need to replace say: Jesus to Superman and the gang..??

Tell you why?

Jesus is a fixed figure and can't be changed, more precisely "there is no patriotism in Jesus and can't be used for political agenda"..(According to the ever changing society?.but Superman does.!) or any superhero for that matter.

Jesus is product of Justice and LOVE, were all American superhero are product of revenge and hate (their action based upon it).

Hence the American "Superhero culture" is fabricated with no root and credibility, most of those are just political figures designed for only one purposes, poison the mind of American people for patriotism and propaganda tools for the Americanism.

Check some those:

Example #1: The Incredible Hulk. "The Hulk?" you say. How could anyone with the child like intellect of strained peas, who can only form sentences like "Hulk sleepy now!" have any kind of political viewpoint? Pish, posh, it's precisely the Hulk's dull witted sensibility that makes him an accurate metaphor for the American voter. And on close inspection, one can find an strong anti-authoritarian stance in many of the Hulks statements, anything from "Hulk Smash," to "Hulk destroy", or "Hulk kill." Hulk clearly ascribes to the anarchistic belief of many left wing extremists of the sixties. (It's rumoured the Hulk befriended the late Abbie Hoffman, while they were both living underground in the early seventies.) But the Hulk also focuses his destructive capacity specifically towards the military industrial complex with statements like "Green men (the military) always bother Hulk, Hulk smash green men." Clearly, the Hulk is a monster of Haight Ashbury, a jaded flower child turned angry by Kent State and the Nixon era.

Example #2: Bat-Man. Bat-man, upon close inspection, would appear to be man of conflicting interest. On one hand he is clearly motivated by revenge, revenge upon criminals, with no time for talk of mitigating circumstances or the role of poverty in creating sin. But at the same time, in his Bruce Wayne personal, Bat-Man gives charitably to social causes. Truthfully Bat-man embodies the average middle class Anglo-American whom is willing to be sympathetic to minority and disadvantaged peoples until they set fire to a grandmother or kill a little girl. Consequently, Bat-Man is often assumed to be insane.

Example #3: Spider-Man. Can you say "guilty white liberal?" While it's often said Bat-Man is motivated by revenge, Spider-man is driven by guilt, primarily the guilt of not stopping the criminal who killed his Uncle Ben. Spider-Man is the eternal underdog, the champion of the underclass, but never feeling vindicated in these acts; he continues banging his head against the wall in an insurmountable quest to eradicate crime. Often a criminal simply needs to relate a life of woe to Spider-man, distracting him long enough for said criminal to bash Spidey over the head with a pipe. As a result, Spider-Man is forced to live a tragic existence of almost Shakespearian levels.

Example #4: Captain America. At first, Capt. would seem like blind patriotism at its most finest, leading an army of tobacco chewing, flag waving, RV driving, "Love it or leave it" spewing traditionalists to march upon the White House lawn and shed a tear for the Unknown Soldier. But truthfully, his nationalistic furor has always been a little more complex than that. C.A. is, at heart, an FDR democrat, and his version of America embodies a Robin Hood democracy that is constantly extending its arm to the little guy. However, because he is a traditionalist at heart (due to the fact that he's approaching eighty) it would be har

All in all...
Traditional heroes were not there for the glory of their nations, but for the glory of the humans.
Sadly Americans change this fact to something personal and bizarre.
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Vow! so much of literary expertise around. We are so honoured to be among such literary geniuses(hope my spell is correct).😉 Say shall we start a literature class here? Enroll me in. 🙂

Qbone! for me Superman resembles a common man's fantasy to stand up and face up to the situations how ever tough they might be. Remember the movie MASK? These 'fabricated super human beings' give people a kind of closeness, a kind of hope that -- it is possible for all of us to fight the evil .. be it superman, batman or ..... See you show children Ten Commandments & The Batman. Whom they want to emulate? It is Batman ofcourse. As the character seems to be more reachable to the humans. He breeds familiarity..kids can identify themselves with him. He is more human.

As a kid I never knew if Superman etc were American comic strips, though my father is an American. The realisation dawned in due to my yearly trips to America, as I grew up.

Remember these characters are created by artists, and everybody knows that an artist doesnt think in those devilish terms..otherwise his creativity gets hampered. They dont think that by creating so and so character we will establish American superiority through out the world. Artists belong to the universe. Yes their creativity will resemble their own cultural influences. And if we think it is evil...why allow our children to watch it?

Let's not forget Americans have made an International hero out of 'Mowgli' the leading character of "Jungle Book" authored by Indian born British author Rudyard Kipling. And it's disney version is jsut too cute. It gives you a true cultural picture of the tropical Indian Jungle & village life. Only the language & music is American .. well ... LOL.. it is more enjoyable that way... let's accept it. And let's accept that the Aericans make the best movies in the world. I am specially bowled over by the human feelings that are attached to the animals. It has created more consious towards so many issues- protection of animal life, enironmental consiousness .. the list is endless.

There are lots of things about America that really sucks, but I know one thing that I can call the good ole' boy in the white house a Nerd... righ toutside the white house & it will be cool.

Looney Bird

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