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Posted by LostinmyMind11
You had me until the outlaw shirt 😂
Did it have the naked chicks on the back?
😝 I'm just teasing.
lmao!! At the end he's like I didn't even know this shirt said "outlaw". Mmmmhhhmmmmmmmm
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by Nightcap-
I'm with Mudra. Wearing a T-shirt that says "Outlaw" is kinda tacky. Graphic tees that say something edgy are for teenagers if that. All black is too safe and uninspiring. Talking about work is boring especially for a Cap. It's a given and if that's what you lead with then you should be living more of a life. I try to talk about anything but work unless they ask. Him talking real estate and markets is stale. Also, making proclamations about himself as well as you is way too presumptuous for first time meeting. If these things are true, then it should be apparent otherwise it can come off as a try hard projection. Insinuating you're too laid back seems to be a ploy especially when he barely even knows you. Sounds like a meathead but maybe someone that would make a good contact if you want to invest or buy some ocean front property in Arizona.
Ha exactly! I’m sorry but saying all this stuff about yourself is such crap. It will be noticed and there is no reason you have to prove yourself unless you are insecure. And so is the laid back comment. Being laid back is not equal to not being a hard worker seriously.
The second Cap I dated said all this stuff about himself, and turned out I made twice as much as him & I worked way harder. Top it all off he was a trust fund baby omg seriously.
The 'laid back' comment is usually used by guys as a subtle subliminal challenge to do something more aggressive or sexual to prove their faux assertion wrong.click to expand
They think if I’m laid back, I don’t have opinions. I’ve gotten this comment a couple of times but they were from very aggressive guys & ones who wanted to control me. Not necessarily sexually.
Posted by capinccPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by LostinmyMind11
You had me until the outlaw shirt 😂
Did it have the naked chicks on the back?
😝 I'm just teasing.
lmao!! At the end he's like I didn't even know this shirt said "outlaw". Mmmmhhhmmmmmmmm
Don't go on a second date.
He's a fraudclick to expand
I dunno. I think a lot of people on this thread are hating on him because I selected certain quotes. Doesn't mean he's all about that.
I offered to drop him off to his car which was a nice sports beemer. I don't think he said all that to impress me but he's just passionate about those things. He never mentioned that "i have a,b,c" but more like "this is what I like to do and this is what I focus on". I ended up learning a lot from him because I'm also interested in real estate and financial growth.
I know people are making fun of his shirt etc but you know how there are some people that are kind of awkward/nerdy and too focused on other things to care. Like, Bill Gates, that Apple dude lol. Just some people don't really care about fashion and such.
But bottom line is that I didn't feel an immediate chemistry and that's really important to me.... so i dunno. Also, I'm not the best judge of character but my "innocence" attracts even wolves to be nice to me to a certain level.
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by PuzzlePieces
Interviews are so boring & I’m cap dominant lol
LMAO everyone calm the fuck down. It was not an interview lol. There was not a, "tell me your strengths and weaknesses" and a "Well why should I go on a second date with you".
He just talked a lot about his career and goals. And he gave me feedback on mine. I'd say more like a mentorship session. lol.
And i damn enjoyed it. Leave me alone lol. What do you guys do you on your dates that's so fun and interesting? Tickle each other and chase around the bar? I really need to know lol.
Haha! I hate those interview type dates. Great you enjoyed it. I like to go for a more physical activity type date, a hike, bowling, walk through the park, etc. Things still come out but not so much pressure, more laughing & enjoying and seeing how the person functions overall instead of see our lists of who we are.
Showing my Sag sun obviously 😉 but I use those Cap observation skills too lol
I dunno why you guys take it so seriously. We went to a lounge had drinks, listened to music and talked.click to expand
Lol it sounded very interview like from what you described.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by PuzzlePieces
Interviews are so boring & I’m cap dominant lol
LMAO everyone calm the fuck down. It was not an interview lol. There was not a, "tell me your strengths and weaknesses" and a "Well why should I go on a second date with you".
He just talked a lot about his career and goals. And he gave me feedback on mine. I'd say more like a mentorship session. lol.
And i damn enjoyed it. Leave me alone lol. What do you guys do you on your dates that's so fun and interesting? Tickle each other and chase around the bar? I really need to know lol.
Haha! I hate those interview type dates. Great you enjoyed it. I like to go for a more physical activity type date, a hike, bowling, walk through the park, etc. Things still come out but not so much pressure, more laughing & enjoying and seeing how the person functions overall instead of see our lists of who we are.
Showing my Sag sun obviously 😉 but I use those Cap observation skills too lol
I dunno why you guys take it so seriously. We went to a lounge had drinks, listened to music and talked.
Lol it sounded very interview like from what you described.click to expand
ok....
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by LostinmyMind11
You had me until the outlaw shirt 😂
Did it have the naked chicks on the back?
😝 I'm just teasing.
lmao!! At the end he's like I didn't even know this shirt said "outlaw". Mmmmhhhmmmmmmmmclick to expand
Ohhhh he knew for sure!! 😂
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by capinccPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by LostinmyMind11
You had me until the outlaw shirt 😂
Did it have the naked chicks on the back?
😝 I'm just teasing.
lmao!! At the end he's like I didn't even know this shirt said "outlaw". Mmmmhhhmmmmmmmm
Don't go on a second date.
He's a fraud
I dunno. I think a lot of people on this thread are hating on him because I selected certain quotes. Doesn't mean he's all about that.
I offered to drop him off to his car which was a nice sports beemer. I don't think he said all that to impress me but he's just passionate about those things. He never mentioned that "i have a,b,c" but more like "this is what I like to do and this is what I focus on". I ended up learning a lot from him because I'm also interested in real estate and financial growth.
I know people are making fun of his shirt etc but you know how there are some people that are kind of awkward/nerdy and too focused on other things to care. Like, Bill Gates, that Apple dude lol. Just some people don't really care about fashion and such.
But bottom line is that I didn't feel an immediate chemistry and that's really important to me.... so i dunno. Also, I'm not the best judge of character but my "innocence" attracts even wolves to be nice to me to a certain level.click to expand
It’s tough you know.. to know anything from a first date. I go more from the vibe & ya chemistry usually unless we connect in some other way. The car doesn’t necessarily mean anything. The Cap earlier this year drove a sports car and had a really nice place and it turned out he had no money at all & everything he said was bullshit. He was latching on to me because I made more than him. Ironic.
If you had a good time, cool 😎 I think real things get discovered as you get to know people slowly not on the first date.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by capinccPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by LostinmyMind11
You had me until the outlaw shirt 😂
Did it have the naked chicks on the back?
😝 I'm just teasing.
lmao!! At the end he's like I didn't even know this shirt said "outlaw". Mmmmhhhmmmmmmmm
Don't go on a second date.
He's a fraud
I dunno. I think a lot of people on this thread are hating on him because I selected certain quotes. Doesn't mean he's all about that.
I offered to drop him off to his car which was a nice sports beemer. I don't think he said all that to impress me but he's just passionate about those things. He never mentioned that "i have a,b,c" but more like "this is what I like to do and this is what I focus on". I ended up learning a lot from him because I'm also interested in real estate and financial growth.
I know people are making fun of his shirt etc but you know how there are some people that are kind of awkward/nerdy and too focused on other things to care. Like, Bill Gates, that Apple dude lol. Just some people don't really care about fashion and such.
But bottom line is that I didn't feel an immediate chemistry and that's really important to me.... so i dunno. Also, I'm not the best judge of character but my "innocence" attracts even wolves to be nice to me to a certain level.
It’s tough you know.. to know anything from a first date. I go more from the vibe & ya chemistry usually unless we connect in some other way. The car doesn’t necessarily mean anything. The Cap earlier this year drove a sports car and had a really nice place and it turned out he had no money at all & everything he said was bullshit. He was latching on to me because I made more than him. Ironic.
If you had a good time, cool 😎 I think real things get discovered as you get to know people slowly not on the first date.click to expand
yea there's no point being negative for no reason.
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by PhoenixRising
Sounds like it was a nice date. Based on what you "collected" I'd put money on you going out again if he asked you.
yea it was nice. Definitely will go again but I think it'll be more like a friendship or help each other with the hustle.
Hmph, and how did you come to the decision that it will only be friendship so early in the game? Were the sneakers 2018 Jordans or something?
hhmm well I couldn't tell if i was attracted to him physically. I'm sure if I get to know him that will grow. There wasn't much chemistry either but that might develop too with a kiss. I'm just that type of person where I like to fall head over heels on the first interaction... like an instant connection... an instant oooooooooh I feel like I know you in some deep subconscious part of my existence....
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Fair enough.
Posted by capincc
How dare him claim capricorn status and not even notice the tacky wording on his T-SHIRT
I was hoping for 'Affliction' or 'Avenged Sevenfold.' Bonus points for 'Slayer' or 'Iron Maiden.' Caps can't resist a classic 🤘👹 🐐
Posted by WarAngel
This is why it's tricky to post date details on DXP. I'm re-learning my lesson.
Yes! You have to have your own sense of judgement. 🙂
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by ELIGAB
Ya bout to have earthy rough sex
😙🤗😁😂
🙃
no girl. I don't even know why I'm dating. i've already met my husband just waiting for FedEx to ship him over here.click to expand
I coming
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by capincc
How dare him claim capricorn status and not even notice the tacky wording on his T-SHIRT
I was hoping for 'Affliction' or 'Avenged Sevenfold.' Bonus points for 'Slayer' or 'Iron Maiden.' Caps can't resist a classic 🤘👹 🐐click to expand
lol I remember my cap Ex who was"Affliction" fanatic. This was in the 2010s ya know. Affliction + Rosary lol that was the look.
Posted by Moon_RiverPosted by bawlikestogomooPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by ELIGAB
Ya bout to have earthy rough sex
😙🤗😁😂
🙃
no girl. I don't even know why I'm dating. i've already met my husband just waiting for FedEx to ship him over here.
I coming
What happened to our 10 mixed babies?click to expand
I love them more than potato 🙂
Posted by stillstillwater
when we were walking downstairs there were bunch of people walking down slowly. He cuts through all of them but as i'm "too laid" back I just stay behind them. Then when we're walking he's like "So are you a leader or a follower"?
*shots fired*
so is this gonna turn into a power struggle or what?
i feel like cap/cap together is sooo interesting for that reason
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
Posted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0MYxV67vke0FqBG0/200.gif
Sorry for your disappointment. Caps men are weird. I hope they all end up with Aqua women. They deserve each other. Hugs. Watch this on your own:
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0MYxV67vke0FqBG0/200.gif
I wouldn't want to go right now because of the virus. He didn't have to be such a dick about it tho lol oh well, perhaps you dodged a bullet after all who knows
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0MYxV67vke0FqBG0/200.gif
Lol completely reasonable on your end. Seems like going to someone’s house = physical intimacy to a lot of guys. Like you’re a mind reader? Weird how he deflects with comments about you. You barely knew him, correct?
Posted by tctapp007Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
I wouldn't want to go right now because of the virus. He didn't have to be such a dick about it tho lol oh well, perhaps you dodged a bullet after all who knowsclick to expand
Lol obv ...what a psycho
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
Lol completely reasonable on your end. Seems like going to someone’s house = physical intimacy to a lot of guys. Like you’re a mind reader? Weird how he deflects with comments about you. You barely knew him, correct?click to expand
We literally had 2 text convos and one date.
Posted by GenXgem
Still water,
I haven’t read this whole thread but just your last comment. It sounds to me like you dodged a bullet. If there is anything my older self could tell my younger self it would be not to go to some guys house to just “Netflix n chill” or movies or whatever it’s called these days. I cannot begin to explain the awkwardness when you just thought it’s a movie and they will try something else. Then everyone would judge you and blame you “well she shouldn’t be in some guys house alone, she went there willingly”.
You did the right thing by listening to your intuition and you lost nothing with a guy like that.
Yea for sure!! Then actually turning it around on me... Just dishonest I think.
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
Lol completely reasonable on your end. Seems like going to someone’s house = physical intimacy to a lot of guys. Like you’re a mind reader? Weird how he deflects with comments about you. You barely knew him, correct?
We literally had 2 text convos and one date.click to expand
Lol well he’s quite something 😂
Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by tctapp007
maybe he is just trying to get to understand you in order to know you ? plus he might just be a tad bit showy trying to win you over
welll anyways it all ended because he invited me over to watch a movie about 3x and each time i had an excuse not to.
So he texts me that he thinks I still have feelings for my ex and that "You're never going to find someone normal cause you don't even know what you're looking for.. "
I'm just like "What makes you think that? i'm confused". He said that he doesn't have time to give me free advice. And I was like is this because I'm not coming over to your place? It's too fast for me and I don't want to be in a situation to get intimate right away. We don't even know each other".
((((Side note: For me going to someone's place even if there's no physical intimacy is just tooo intimate. Like I don't want to be in your space if I don't know you enough to trust you.))))
He says that I seem like the type of person to "overanalyze everything down to watching a movie wow".
he says that he likes my personality and if i couldn't watch a movie without jumping him then it's on me and "i had no intentions of hooking up with you, sorry".
I'm like "so there's nothing else you want to do rather than watch a movie at yours?" And he says that i date "lower vibrational frequency men".
So I just ended it with "ok fair enough".
https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0MYxV67vke0FqBG0/200.gif
these dudes who act like you're their 4th option
super offensive if he's not good-looking enough
or like below 5
"yOu cOuLD hAvE bEeN mY 4tH oPTiOn."
reality:
reality:
Posted by dOpehEad
"lower vibrational frequency men"
"lol you took me to nightclubs"
obvious reddit account lmfao.
one of the reasons i can't ever see myself breaking up with the capricorn is coz one time he thought i did, he said: "you women are all the same. you and her (pisces ex who cheated on him after 11 years)."
and i just knew this dude gonna make a reddit account and that's one of my greatest personal fears.
gotta save this one guy.
Posted by dOpehEad
"lower vibrational frequency men"
"lol you took me to nightclubs"
hahaha i didn't even think of that... good point
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by dOpehEad
"lower vibrational frequency men"
"lol you took me to nightclubs"
obvious reddit account lmfao.
one of the reasons i can't ever see myself breaking up with the capricorn is coz one time he thought i did, he said: "you women are all the same. you and her (pisces ex who cheated on him after 11 years)."
and i just knew this dude gonna make a reddit account and that's one of my greatest personal fears.
gotta save this one guy.click to expand
haha yea sure sure. you looooooooooooooooooove him
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I have been kind of on and off with this Capricorn male that I seem to connect with and he connects with me. I am a pisces/Aries cusp and we get along perfectly. We have mutual chemistry that is strong, magnetic and insane. He has been kind of screwing ar
I am talking with this guy, like on a regular basis. We have never gone out together anywhere( i want to though!)
We have talked about work, what music he likes/dislikes.
He knows somehow that i am interested in him. But deep down i feel we don't have an
Ive been dating this Capricorn man for a year now, but I've known him for four years. He likes booze, cooking, dark humor, dogs and massages. What should I get for a Capricorn ?
hello, i'm an aquarius-pisces cusp, aquarius moon, and gemini rising. i recently found myself crushing on a capricorn man and we were a bit closer than usual. he touched my shoulder where he accidentally hit me, i was nervous about a presentation and he k
Its been a while since I've posted but its been an intense year.
As a Cap guy, need some opinions on the following question.
Is it worth or have you ever got into a relationship b/c you were bored of your life at the moment?
Sorry this is long. I met a capricorn man 2 years ago in a business setting. We started a casual relationship 6 months ago. At the time I was involved with a long term fwb with another and told him up front about it. He said he was not seeing any one. He
Seriously??
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Like ... This doesn't beat the controversy when fucking "Blake Shelton" was the sexiest man alive back in 2017... But it's almost just as bad of a train wreck.
I honestly think People's Magazine set
N..n..nothing. I was just giving you free advice
Have a nice day 😢