Saturn Returns

I still don’t understand these.. how long do they last? Do they end at the point Saturn returns to your point of birth.

I’m thinking of the second one actually. I think the first one coincided with first to second husband & setting up life with my future family.

My husband got married against his mommy’s wishes during his Saturn return (I’ve read it’s good to marry around or after your Saturn return as you’re supposedly more mature and are sure of what you want). I think it’s still going on for him. Mine is set to happen a few years from now and it’s in my 4th house so hopefully mine is around parenthood and dealing with poopie diapers. I already feel like I’ve accumulated an acceleration of wisdom and serious life lessons the past few years so I’m so ready for mine !

Mine started 2 yrs prior when I was 26 in 2010 (around 2012 is when Saturn entered Scorpio again) and ended around 30-31 in 2014ish (when it left Scorpio)

Saturn in Scorp in the 11th H....death and transformation was definitely the theme and where I started down the occult road trying to understand wtf just happened to me lol.

Good times...not looking forward to the next one if I make it that long. Lol

Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Hmmm your math is wrong mid - late 50’s.

So this explains a lot. I’m 56. My Saturn is in Aquarius - first house.. looks like it will be Mid to late 2022 when I hit that point. Pluto is also transiting my first house 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Posted by SassyKiwi

My husband got married against his mommy’s wishes during his Saturn return (I’ve read it’s good to marry around or after your Saturn return as you’re supposedly more mature and are sure of what you want). I think it’s still going on for him. Mine is set to happen a few years from now and it’s in my 4th house so hopefully mine is around parenthood and dealing with poopie diapers. I already feel like I’ve accumulated an acceleration of wisdom and serious life lessons the past few years so I’m so ready for mine !

Interesting I left first husband at 26 & married husband #2 at 31. I feel as though I didn’t take enough time healing & dealing with divorce #1 before I entered the second relationship. I met him at 27.

Posted by BlueStar

Depends but the total period is roughly 2-3 years. Mine was rough but I’ve come through it and am positive toward the future. 👍🏻

It focused on what I was lacking and I ended up in real pain but that pain has taught me what I need to work on.

Saturn is refinement based on the fruit of your labor or lack thereof. So it’s a bit of karma and then reassessing what’s actually needed.

View it as a transformation period/rite of passage into the next 3rd of your life based on what you’ve learned and grown from in the first third.

It’s official, I’m in the middle of it.

Pattern timing currently is:

Everything is possible

Healing Relationship challenges

Transformation

New phase of career

Abundance and confidence

Adventure unfolds

Letting go of identity

Wow!!

In the last couple of weeks I have realized I was just filling the hole not healing it the last 8 years.. well personal growth & getting stronger. Maybe getting ready for it Idk. Well healing really started due to me exes illness last year & realization of what I wanted for me related to the Cap which came in January. Since then I feel like I’ve been in it. My sex and love says it’s pressured until 2023 in Co-star... all seems to fit. I’m in a universe teach me mode now lol or maybe that’s Saturn 😉

Posted by BlueStar

For me I was very settled into security but denied myself what I’ve always felt my calling to be. So I had to learn not to rely so much on relationships to where I become codependent and so adaptive that I am living in a role rather than just living. I need to pursue the independence that I’ve feel too scared to go for. So right now I’m going through a lot of upheaval and changed to follow that path.

I did become codependent due to my marriage and all this personal growth was to unravel it. That started at 45. Right now I just want to sit in it all & do nothing. I’m a doer and I don’t want to do anymore.

I'm in it right now I don't know when it'll be over but it's okay aside from the pandemic.

I came across this a few years back, even made a thread about it back then.

https://astrobox.wordpress.com/midlife-astrology/the-saturn-opposition-44-years/



Some stuff that stuck out to me:

"The Saturn Opposition at midlife is a time to re-examine the concerns of the house(s) through which Saturn is transiting, where it resides natally and what house it rules. Saturn is The Teacher and the best way to be successful with this transit is to be a willing pupil. The first Saturn opposite Saturn aspect occurred at about age 14/15, the Saturn Return at approximately age 28/30 and now a second Saturn opposite Saturn aspect is occurring at midlife. As Saturn oppositions begin we re-evaluate and make changes. At age 44/45 it is time to re-evaluate the past 14 years or so since your Saturn Return. What have you accomplished since age 28 that is true and authentic and can be built upon as you advance through your 40s and into your 50s?"



this part might relate more to you..i think you are a few years older than me. im still in my 40's

"Ages 44-59 can be the most productive and creative of your life. Saturn builds structure and is all about reality. The coming 14 year period can be very productive if you have cleared away the rubbish which has accumulated – literally and figuratively. Are there possessions and people who no longer serve you well? Have things come to the end of their usefulness or has a relationship gone as far as it will go? What is blocking you and posing as an obstacle? Ask yourself which situations in your life are limiting you, frustrating you, and blocking your efforts? What is it that you cannot accomplish with things as they are?"

there are also links to jupiter, chiron and uranus.. which wasn't really relevant then but sure is now with all the retros lol

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Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Hmmm your math is wrong mid - late 50’s.

So this explains a lot. I’m 56. My Saturn is in Aquarius - first house.. looks like it will be Mid to late 2022 when I hit that point. Pluto is also transiting my first house 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

My math was totally off lol. Yeah also its enhanced/stronger if you have Capricorn placements

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Lol I’m Cap dominant! Mercury, Venus, Mars. Good times.

Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Your math is off.



1st opposition happens around 14ish years from birth, return is 28-30, opposition AGAIN is 44ish ( and if you didn;t deal with the shit from your late 20s karma comes calling, then around 58s is another return. so yes she is getting close to another one.. i think you are 54 OP?

It's every 14ish years that Saturn will have impacts.

Posted by justagirl

I came across this a few years back, even made a thread about it back then.

https://astrobox.wordpress.com/midlife-astrology/the-saturn-opposition-44-years/



Some stuff that stuck out to me:

"The Saturn Opposition at midlife is a time to re-examine the concerns of the house(s) through which Saturn is transiting, where it resides natally and what house it rules. Saturn is The Teacher and the best way to be successful with this transit is to be a willing pupil. The first Saturn opposite Saturn aspect occurred at about age 14/15, the Saturn Return at approximately age 28/30 and now a second Saturn opposite Saturn aspect is occurring at midlife. As Saturn oppositions begin we re-evaluate and make changes. At age 44/45 it is time to re-evaluate the past 14 years or so since your Saturn Return. What have you accomplished since age 28 that is true and authentic and can be built upon as you advance through your 40s and into your 50s?"



this part might relate more to you..i think you are a few years older than me. im still in my 40's

"Ages 44-59 can be the most productive and creative of your life. Saturn builds structure and is all about reality. The coming 14 year period can be very productive if you have cleared away the rubbish which has accumulated – literally and figuratively. Are there possessions and people who no longer serve you well? Have things come to the end of their usefulness or has a relationship gone as far as it will go? What is blocking you and posing as an obstacle? Ask yourself which situations in your life are limiting you, frustrating you, and blocking your efforts? What is it that you cannot accomplish with things as they are?"

there are also links to jupiter, chiron and uranus.. which wasn't really relevant then but sure is now with all the retros lol

Interesting! I started the midlife thing at 45. It was a question someone asked me. And then I had to ask myself, can you live like you are for the rest of your life? I didn’t know the answer til I was 48, when I left. I’ve accomplished a lot in the last 8 years. It was the right path. For my kids, and for me. I feel as thought right now it’s time to get through some more for the older years, retirement years. Which is still 9 years away, but I’m preparing. And romance wise, I’m to the point I’ve mostly healed, I’ve explored options & I know what I can live with & what I can’t. I have no idea how to get to what I can live with so I’m in a “just be” made. I think that is positive actually.

and i see yall already discussed the math..I really need to read entire threads before respondin. lol



*slowly exits the thread*

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Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Your math is off.



1st opposition happens around 14ish years from birth, return is 28-30, opposition AGAIN is 44ish ( and if you didn;t deal with the shit from your late 20s karma comes calling, then around 58s is another return. so yes she is getting close to another one.. i think you are 54 OP?

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I’m 56 will be 57 in December. So I’m just preparing for Saturn return? Lol

Posted by PuzzlePieces

Posted by justagirl

I came across this a few years back, even made a thread about it back then.

https://astrobox.wordpress.com/midlife-astrology/the-saturn-opposition-44-years/



Some stuff that stuck out to me:

"The Saturn Opposition at midlife is a time to re-examine the concerns of the house(s) through which Saturn is transiting, where it resides natally and what house it rules. Saturn is The Teacher and the best way to be successful with this transit is to be a willing pupil. The first Saturn opposite Saturn aspect occurred at about age 14/15, the Saturn Return at approximately age 28/30 and now a second Saturn opposite Saturn aspect is occurring at midlife. As Saturn oppositions begin we re-evaluate and make changes. At age 44/45 it is time to re-evaluate the past 14 years or so since your Saturn Return. What have you accomplished since age 28 that is true and authentic and can be built upon as you advance through your 40s and into your 50s?"



this part might relate more to you..i think you are a few years older than me. im still in my 40's

"Ages 44-59 can be the most productive and creative of your life. Saturn builds structure and is all about reality. The coming 14 year period can be very productive if you have cleared away the rubbish which has accumulated – literally and figuratively. Are there possessions and people who no longer serve you well? Have things come to the end of their usefulness or has a relationship gone as far as it will go? What is blocking you and posing as an obstacle? Ask yourself which situations in your life are limiting you, frustrating you, and blocking your efforts? What is it that you cannot accomplish with things as they are?"

there are also links to jupiter, chiron and uranus.. which wasn't really relevant then but sure is now with all the retros lol

Interesting! I started the midlife thing at 45. It was a question someone asked me. And then I had to ask myself, can you live like you are for the rest of your life? I didn’t know the answer til I was 48, when I left. I’ve accomplished a lot in the last 8 years. It was the right path. For my kids, and for me. I feel as thought right now it’s time to get through some more for the older years, retirement years. Which is still 9 years away, but I’m preparing. And romance wise, I’m to the point I’ve mostly healed, I’ve explored options & I know what I can live with & what I can’t. I have no idea how to get to what I can live with so I’m in a “just be” made. I think that is positive actually.

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I was just about to turn 44 and the crab ex returned to my life after 15 years and was dealing with many what if questions.. and if i could forgive him after what happened and stumbled across that article. It reallllllllly helped me especially the part of what i dealt with during my satrun return and why it/he was back in my life after I had moved on from it all. I meet him right before i turned 30, picked up my life and walked away from everything and everyone... which was ultimatley a good choice for my life, but i should have done it with someone else not him lol

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Posted by justagirl

Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Your math is off.



1st opposition happens around 14ish years from birth, return is 28-30, opposition AGAIN is 44ish ( and if you didn;t deal with the shit from your late 20s karma comes calling, then around 58s is another return. so yes she is getting close to another one.. i think you are 54 OP?

I’m 56 will be 57 in December. So I’m just preparing for Saturn return? Lol

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you may be starting it. Have you compared your chart to current transists?

Posted by justagirl

Posted by PuzzlePieces

Posted by justagirl

I came across this a few years back, even made a thread about it back then.

https://astrobox.wordpress.com/midlife-astrology/the-saturn-opposition-44-years/



Some stuff that stuck out to me:

"The Saturn Opposition at midlife is a time to re-examine the concerns of the house(s) through which Saturn is transiting, where it resides natally and what house it rules. Saturn is The Teacher and the best way to be successful with this transit is to be a willing pupil. The first Saturn opposite Saturn aspect occurred at about age 14/15, the Saturn Return at approximately age 28/30 and now a second Saturn opposite Saturn aspect is occurring at midlife. As Saturn oppositions begin we re-evaluate and make changes. At age 44/45 it is time to re-evaluate the past 14 years or so since your Saturn Return. What have you accomplished since age 28 that is true and authentic and can be built upon as you advance through your 40s and into your 50s?"



this part might relate more to you..i think you are a few years older than me. im still in my 40's

"Ages 44-59 can be the most productive and creative of your life. Saturn builds structure and is all about reality. The coming 14 year period can be very productive if you have cleared away the rubbish which has accumulated – literally and figuratively. Are there possessions and people who no longer serve you well? Have things come to the end of their usefulness or has a relationship gone as far as it will go? What is blocking you and posing as an obstacle? Ask yourself which situations in your life are limiting you, frustrating you, and blocking your efforts? What is it that you cannot accomplish with things as they are?"

there are also links to jupiter, chiron and uranus.. which wasn't really relevant then but sure is now with all the retros lol

Interesting! I started the midlife thing at 45. It was a question someone asked me. And then I had to ask myself, can you live like you are for the rest of your life? I didn’t know the answer til I was 48, when I left. I’ve accomplished a lot in the last 8 years. It was the right path. For my kids, and for me. I feel as thought right now it’s time to get through some more for the older years, retirement years. Which is still 9 years away, but I’m preparing. And romance wise, I’m to the point I’ve mostly healed, I’ve explored options & I know what I can live with & what I can’t. I have no idea how to get to what I can live with so I’m in a “just be” made. I think that is positive actually.

I was just about to turn 44 and the crab ex returned to my life after 15 years and was dealing with many what if questions.. and if i could forgive him after what happened and stumbled across that article. It reallllllllly helped me especially the part of what i dealt with during my satrun return and why it/he was back in my life after I had moved on from it all. I meet him right before i turned 30, picked up my life and walked away from everything and everyone... which was ultimatley a good choice for my life, but i should have done it with someone else not him lol

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Coulda woulda shoulda .. my life is filled with them. It’s just the way it goes, we forgive ourselves and do what’s best at this point in time.

FYI saturn did move into Aquarius March 21 2020 then went retro back into cap. in July

Saturn will be in Aquarius until July 1 when it will retrograde back into Capricorn until it re-enters Aquarius on Dec. 1.

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Posted by Bklatt

Lasts 2.5 to 3 years. Starts around 27 years old. The actual events that set it off may start at 26 and resolve at 31

It starts when saturn enters the sign. And ends when it leaves it. The turning point/climax happens around the natal placement(when it returns to the exact point of birth)

Second one is around 63 65 67 add 30+27 or 27+27

Almost always theres a tough period around that time. The first one is supposedly tougher than the first as in the second youre wiser and on top(Cap/saturn)

Mine is in Capricorn 4th house. Very typical leason about family and earnings for me

Your math is off.



1st opposition happens around 14ish years from birth, return is 28-30, opposition AGAIN is 44ish ( and if you didn;t deal with the shit from your late 20s karma comes calling, then around 58s is another return. so yes she is getting close to another one.. i think you are 54 OP?

I’m 56 will be 57 in December. So I’m just preparing for Saturn return? Lol

you may be starting it. Have you compared your chart to current transists?

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Yes. Saturn & pluto are transiting in my first house in Capricorn at the moment. I just reran it’s & Saturn will hit my birth point in March 2022. I will actually be 58 then, so perhaps I’m a bit earlier than that timing. It makes sense I started about March.. right when COVID struck 😂😂

The 1st Saturn Return is supposedly the hardest to deal with. Even if you're rich or a famous celebrity - makes little to no difference (doesn't make that experience any easier - if you keep swimming against the tide), or at least - some tie the 1st Saturn return to the 27 Club: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

The 2nd Saturn Return reaches its peak around the age of 60 - tho, same as first Saturn Return - its influence can be felt couple of years earlier (somehow similar to Seasonal changes/effects... that early taste of Winter/Spring/Summer/Autumn - which tends to occur weeks before fully entering that season). Some claim - it can be felt as soon as 56, and it's suppose to last up to 3 years - after reaching its full cycle (around the age of 60 - so up to 63). Tho, the impact it has on oneself - tends to differ from one individual to another - depending on your level of maturity. Same goes for first - where some people are already way to mature for that age - and for them Saturn Return is more like a walk in the park (nothing new). As for 2nd, well the first example that pops into my mind... is tied to ageing and how it's a normal part of the human experience - yet, some people seem to really struggle with this aspect (aging gracefully) - more impactful for someone with Saturn in 1st House (the house of the persona - the personal image). someone like Cher or Iggy Pop. Different House/Sign can imply a somehow different experience - tho, still something specific for that age.

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Posted by SassyKiwi

My husband got married against his mommy’s wishes during his Saturn return (I’ve read it’s good to marry around or after your Saturn return as you’re supposedly more mature and are sure of what you want). I think it’s still going on for him. Mine is set to happen a few years from now and it’s in my 4th house so hopefully mine is around parenthood and dealing with poopie diapers. I already feel like I’ve accumulated an acceleration of wisdom and serious life lessons the past few years so I’m so ready for mine !

Interesting I left first husband at 26 & married husband #2 at 31. I feel as though I didn’t take enough time healing & dealing with divorce #1 before I entered the second relationship. I met him at 27.

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Are you still married to your second husband and had a content marriage?

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Posted by SassyKiwi

My husband got married against his mommy’s wishes during his Saturn return (I’ve read it’s good to marry around or after your Saturn return as you’re supposedly more mature and are sure of what you want). I think it’s still going on for him. Mine is set to happen a few years from now and it’s in my 4th house so hopefully mine is around parenthood and dealing with poopie diapers. I already feel like I’ve accumulated an acceleration of wisdom and serious life lessons the past few years so I’m so ready for mine !

Interesting I left first husband at 26 & married husband #2 at 31. I feel as though I didn’t take enough time healing & dealing with divorce #1 before I entered the second relationship. I met him at 27.

Are you still married to your second husband and had a content marriage?

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No. We were together 20 years. Divorced 8 years now. It’s complicated. We were happy for a long time but his issues tore us apart eventually. Well ended up our issues along the way. Midlife hit us hard. I chose healthy. He did not. I guess when you don’t deal with the issues, midlife can smack you upside the head.

Saturn in Capricorn is ok because in its home sign, it's not as scary as it can be..that's just my experience. Saturn crossing natal Saturn was..pretty bad but again, its really what you make of it. I'm just sad when I hear long marriages ending or health diagnoses happening with these things. Not many things prepare you for that. But its all in the preparation..

Mine is in the 5th house anyone have any experience with 5th house Saturn return?

Posted by _mudra_

I don't know the specifics but goddamn that was a trying few years. Can feel myself coming out of it now at almost 32 in a few months. Everything came fulllllllllllllll circle.

Yeah that’s happening for me now. I don’t think it did so much in my late 20’s. But it was the period between my two marriages.

Posted by justagirl

FYI saturn did move into Aquarius March 21 2020 then went retro back into cap. in July

Saturn will be in Aquarius until July 1 when it will retrograde back into Capricorn until it re-enters Aquarius on Dec. 1.

ah, so my Saturn return started on march? wish I could say my woes started that moment, although they kinda did.

anyway.... fuck my life.

also I don't want to go back to college 😩