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How have you seen it affect you in matters of love, relationships, sex, and/or the heart?

Retrograde Venus in Aqua at birth here. I find that I'm just as attracted to the unconventionally attractive as I am the conventionally attractive. Sometimes, I surprise my family with what I'm attracted to and I surprise myself with what I'm attracted to at times.

I also can oscillate between caring a ton for a person, and not caring at all. I can typically get over breakups fairly quick, but some have made me think and think about them on end, months after the fact.

I generally hate superficiality, and yet, I'm weirdly attracted to it and the IG selfie culture (though I hardly ever take pics).

I hardly ever open up even when fairly deep into a relationship, already fitting for a heavy Cap-influenced individual with a Virgo moon, but this is only accentuated with a retrograde Venus and it in cool Aqua.

So yeah.
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Venus Rx deals with repression of love. I find Venus retrogrades take love and relationships more seriously but they hurt more too

What decan is your venus in and what house and whats the ruler of that house?

1st decan (1st degree, Uranus), Ninth House, Sagittarius.


Your rx doesnt have to be unfavorable. You just dont like nurturing and affectionate people, the people you fall in love with are probably all a bit snarky but still friendly and they have a teacher vibe to them. Youd go well with another universal sign or someone who has that as their dom sign (Pisces, Sag, Cap, Aqua). Personal signs wont easily make themselves available to you (Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer) they need a lot of reassurance that youre not comfortable with giving. Fatal attraction kind

You might enjoy carrying wisdom/lessons of past relationships more than actually being in a relationship and you have to be surrounded by beauty or youll get depressed lol so your attraction to interpersonal signs(Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio) is high. I think Scorpio with Sag placements could be your true match. What you think?
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I don't know if I don't like affectionate people, but it's super hard for me to return the favor. When I try, it always feels insincere and forced, being something I'm not. I'm naturally realistic---sometimes crossing over to cynical and pessimistic. My humor is often like this, and some people think I'm hilarious, others think I'm too dry or dark.

I think I could do well with Pisces or Aquas. The latter is like the opposite side of Saturn but still Saturn, I think we get each other coming up in the ass end of winter. All the Sags I've tried to date found me boring lol but I went on a date with one Thurs, she was not like a typical Sag outside of loving the outdoors. Was more boring then me haha. I like fellow Caps as friends but I feel like I might need a little more emotion from a sig other to balance me out.

Little/no XP with Aries. One Cancer I dated years ago was into me and I her, but I came on too strong. I attract Gems a ton, but I find them too flighty and no substance. My sis is a Taurus and we get along great. Have had some romantic/sexual encounters with Tauruses, but I think they sense I'm even more earthy than they are.

I think you're pretty accurate on the interpersonal sign assessment. Little/no XP with Leos, but they strike me as egotistic. Love Virgos, Scorps can be deep and I like that.

I'm in love/hate relationships with Libras. I fall so hard for their beauty and charm and general positivity, and I think that they fall for my solidness and silent masculinity. But, they're so flaky, at least the ones I've dealt with. Want a relationship but when everything is not perfect match-wise, they start to get scared and don't want to work through difficulties. I feel it has the great potential to be a power couple, but is often toxic.
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28
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LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28

LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.


Close, but not quite. Aqua sun/Sag moon.
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Nice. Fellow winter bro trying to survive first Saturn return.
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28

LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.


Close, but not quite. Aqua sun/Sag moon.

Nice. Fellow winter bro trying to survive first Saturn return.
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You guys have both given up on love?🤔



Amateurs, I never believed in it to begin with. 😤 😎

No, but that's too soon guys.
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28

LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.


Close, but not quite. Aqua sun/Sag moon.

Nice. Fellow winter bro trying to survive first Saturn return.


You guys have both given up on love?🤔



Amateurs, I never believed in it to begin with. 😤 😎

No, but that's too soon guys.
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I personally haven't, but I'm not willing to rush and give up everything to obtain it, either. I feel like it'll come when it needs to, and that'll probably be in my 30's.

I'm not disillusioned to finding the perfect person, either. I don't believe in a true love story and it agonizes me to no end when others do believe in Disney love.
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How have you seen it affect you in matters of love, relationships, sex, and/or the heart?

Retrograde Venus in Aqua at birth here. I find that I'm just as attracted to the unconventionally attractive as I am the conventionally attractive. Sometimes, I surprise my family with what I'm attracted to and I surprise myself with what I'm attracted to at times.

I also can oscillate between caring a ton for a person, and not caring at all. I can typically get over breakups fairly quick, but some have made me think and think about them on end, months after the fact.

I generally hate superficiality, and yet, I'm weirdly attracted to it and the IG selfie culture (though I hardly ever take pics).

I hardly ever open up even when fairly deep into a relationship, already fitting for a heavy Cap-influenced individual with a Virgo moon, but this is only accentuated with a retrograde Venus and it in cool Aqua.

So yeah.


Well it sounds a lot like another Cap sun Virgo Moon I used to know. He is Cap Venus though.
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I understand him already. Uber-grounded and reliable, probably cynical to the nth degree. Apparently Virgo moons in general and Venus natal retrograde individuals can be pretty attractive aesthetically (so I've read), but the individuals may not always feel this way for whatever reasons.
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28

LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.


Close, but not quite. Aqua sun/Sag moon.

Nice. Fellow winter bro trying to survive first Saturn return.


You guys have both given up on love?🤔



Amateurs, I never believed in it to begin with. 😤 😎

No, but that's too soon guys.

I personally haven't, but I'm not willing to rush and give up everything to obtain it, either. I feel like it'll come when it needs to, and that'll probably be in my 30's.
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Nice to be so relaxed about it. I think that's what a past with some succes in love does.
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Scorpio Venus Rx in 6th and it's opposite Saturn Rx in 12th.

I'm not sure if it affects me more than what is said about the opposition with Saturn. No way for me to know what does what.




Do you feel pressure to not make ''mistakes''? Like youre holding back and second guessing yourself a lot?
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With some things, yes, definitely. I also have Jupiter conjunct Venus, and it's opposite Saturn too. Perhaps the holding back would be worse if Jupiter wasn't involved. I always end up pursuing whatever is most important to me, so the pressure and second guessing only slows action down but doesn't stop it thankfully.
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Scorpio Venus Rx in 6th and it's opposite Saturn Rx in 12th.

I'm not sure if it affects me more than what is said about the opposition with Saturn. No way for me to know what does what.




Do you feel pressure to not make ''mistakes''? Like youre holding back and second guessing yourself a lot?


With some things, yes, definitely. I also have Jupiter conjunct Venus, and it's opposite Saturn too. Perhaps the holding back would be worse if Jupiter wasn't involved. I always end up pursuing whatever is most important to me, so the pressure and second guessing only slows action down but doesn't stop it thankfully.


Jupiter can really soften things up too with its forgiving nature, glad you got that going for you!
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Yes, definitely. I'm glad too! :-) Life might feel too heavy to me if it wasn't helping out.
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Venus Rx deals with repression of love. I find Venus retrogrades take love and relationships more seriously but they hurt more too

What decan is your venus in and what house and whats the ruler of that house?

1st decan (1st degree, Uranus), Ninth House, Sagittarius.


Your rx doesnt have to be unfavorable. You just dont like nurturing and affectionate people, the people you fall in love with are probably all a bit snarky but still friendly and they have a teacher vibe to them. Youd go well with another universal sign or someone who has that as their dom sign (Pisces, Sag, Cap, Aqua). Personal signs wont easily make themselves available to you (Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer) they need a lot of reassurance that youre not comfortable with giving. Fatal attraction kind

You might enjoy carrying wisdom/lessons of past relationships more than actually being in a relationship and you have to be surrounded by beauty or youll get depressed lol so your attraction to interpersonal signs(Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio) is high. I think Scorpio with Sag placements could be your true match. What you think?


I don't know if I don't like affectionate people, but it's super hard for me to return the favor. When I try, it always feels insincere and forced, being something I'm not. I'm naturally realistic---sometimes crossing over to cynical and pessimistic. My humor is often like this, and some people think I'm hilarious, others think I'm too dry or dark.

I think I could do well with Pisces or Aquas. The latter is like the opposite side of Saturn but still Saturn, I think we get each other coming up in the ass end of winter. All the Sags I've tried to date found me boring lol but I went on a date with one Thurs, she was not like a typical Sag outside of loving the outdoors. Was more boring then me haha. I like fellow Caps as friends but I feel like I might need a little more emotion from a sig other to balance me out.

Little/no XP with Aries. One Cancer I dated years ago was into me and I her, but I came on too strong. I attract Gems a ton, but I find them too flighty and no substance. My sis is a Taurus and we get along great. Have had some romantic/sexual encounters with Tauruses, but I think they sense I'm even more earthy than they are.

I think you're pretty accurate on the interpersonal sign assessment. Little/no XP with Leos, but they strike me as egotistic. Love Virgos, Scorps can be deep and I like that.

I'm in love/hate relationships with Libras. I fall so hard for their beauty and charm and general positivity, and I think that they fall for my solidness and silent masculinity. But, they're so flaky, at least the ones I've dealt with. Want a relationship but when everything is not perfect match-wise, they start to get scared and don't want to work through difficulties. I feel it has the great potential to be a power couple, but is often toxic.
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@halalbae do Aries/Taurus/Gemini/Cancer need more reassurance because they are the babies/youngsters of the zodiac?
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Welcome. Has it affected you any in your opinion?


You could say so.

I've discarded the very idea of love by now and learned to live without warmth or emotional comfort.

Interesting. How old are you?


28

LMFAO, you're me if you're a Cap. I'm 28.


Close, but not quite. Aqua sun/Sag moon.

Nice. Fellow winter bro trying to survive first Saturn return.


Winter is the best season indeed. Can't wait till we get there again.

Yeah, I'm not to keen on my Saturn return.
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Mines been interesting. Resigned from my job in Feb, was unemployed for 4 months. Think this forced me to stop thinking so much about money and work work work. Maybe try to be a little more warmer to people too. Not mean or anything, but usually more cool than I probably need to be. Don't know.

And my car's been giving me issues all year smh lol. From my right tires getting taken out on a pothole in April, to my first ever accident (fender-bender), to my car's alternator giving out on one of the busiest intersections in my city. Wild. Apparently we've still got a few more years of the return so gotta just improve and stick together!
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Scorpio venus in retrograde here. I'm not going to tell my life here, but let's just say that I gave up on love. It took me some years to understand it's not for me.

Damn, sorry to hear that. It doesn't drive my life like it may some Libras lol, but I haven't given up on love. But to me it'll happen when it happens. Not too concerned, Caps got the gift of aging well.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.
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It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?
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I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

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Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂

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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂



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I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.
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So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.
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What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


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I LOVE this! 🙂

So there's no one to help maneuver through it? Do you prefer to fight the battle alone?

I honestly don't mind the fighting as long as you don't leave. Time-days or months mean nothing to me. I pick up where I left off, even when years have passed, when I love someone. I just need to know that you WILL be back. 😢
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


No I just read the descriptions and thought I let you know before you read them. I don't know if I can relate to the part about marrying late. I married early and even then I felt pressured into it. But the other parts sound terribly bad. If you think you cried just having this retrograde placement, you'll cry blood if you ever read it and I mean sit down and take the time and read it thoroughly from beginning to the very end. Even tho I have this, no I don't have experience with this placement at all. I probably do but just don't know it.
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Oh ok, I don't have a retrograde placement. I am just trying to understand it because I've had two people I've been with that had this placement and I've failed with both of them
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


No I just read the descriptions and thought I let you know before you read them. I don't know if I can relate to the part about marrying late. I married early and even then I felt pressured into it. But the other parts sound terribly bad. If you think you cried just having this retrograde placement, you'll cry blood if you ever read it and I mean sit down and take the time and read it thoroughly from beginning to the very end. Even tho I have this, no I don't have experience with this placement at all. I probably do but just don't know it.

Oh ok, I don't have a retrograde placement. I am just trying to understand it because I've had two people I've been with that had this placement and I've failed with both of them


Oh ok gotcha. But how exactly you failed with them? Cus I wanna see if there is some kind of correlation with all the sag women that's been in my life.
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Who knows. I run them off with my direct approach. I've dealt with a couple of Aquarius's with this placement. They can't seem to make up their mind when it comes to me. I have no clue sometimes how to deal with them. They like being in a state of confusion when it comes to women, I guess. I am fast, direct and just expect open communication. Aquarius do this with friends but clam up when it comes to them doing with me. It's like a vail of secrecy because I'm so open. As much as people say they are simple, I don't see them as simple at all.

I think the fact that I don't play mind games is an issue too.

What issues do you have with Sag women?
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Venus in Virgo Rx in 9th house, ruled by Leo. Always thought the fact that I'm ultra self-critical was my virgo sun. Hmm, so maybe being unable to love myself is due to the ViV. Need to tell myself that I wouldn't treat my family & friends as harshly as I do myself, and that I am lovable and deserving of receiving love.

Also, pick partners that are workaholics, emotionally unavailable, not expressive. Self-protection at it's finest....
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


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I LOVE this! 🙂

So there's no one to help maneuver through it? Do you prefer to fight the battle alone?

I honestly don't mind the fighting as long as you don't leave. Time-days or months mean nothing to me. I pick up where I left off, even when years have passed, when I love someone. I just need to know that you WILL be back. 😢


Yeah, chances are high that you will feel gurt by what would seem to be quite normal to me.
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I don't care about the hurt as long as I can treat the person the same way lol We can play that game all day, as long as I know what I'm up against and know what he's expecting. The key is knowing.
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The main issue is that their too wide open with me in public. And I'm private and likes to keep a low profile. They different from the water sign women whereas it seem like I'm more open to them (Scorpios mainly). I'm pretty sure you've red my story about them on these message boards


No, I haven't read anything because this is my first interaction with you. I don't even really hang out in the Sag boards.

I'm not the typical Sag woman though. I have a Scorpio Venus and am 50% water so I need privacy and don't like people in my business. In public, I'm not lovey dovey and don't like PDA either. I save affection for private times. I don't want a man hanging all over me. It's annoying 😄
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


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I LOVE this! 🙂

So there's no one to help maneuver through it? Do you prefer to fight the battle alone?

I honestly don't mind the fighting as long as you don't leave. Time-days or months mean nothing to me. I pick up where I left off, even when years have passed, when I love someone. I just need to know that you WILL be back. 😢


Yeah, chances are high that you will feel gurt by what would seem to be quite normal to me.


I don't care about the hurt as long as I can treat the person the same way lol We can play that game all day, as long as I know what I'm up against and know what he's expecting. The key is knowing.


But the other side might.
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And there lies the problem. So you would treat someone a certain way and just hope that they would understand and take it?

I can see why it's not working on my end then. I'm not so agreeable when it comes to this. I won't be treated like crap and just take it like some doormat. Maybe I'm wasting my time then. I wasn't looking at it from this perspective.
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On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.


What type of warning is this? lol Do you have experience with it? I've cried already with this placement. But I always end up coming back once I forgive lol I don't hold grudges so I don't mind the hardship of it. I just wonder how much working through there is before it gets good or is it always bad 😢


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I LOVE this! 🙂

So there's no one to help maneuver through it? Do you prefer to fight the battle alone?

I honestly don't mind the fighting as long as you don't leave. Time-days or months mean nothing to me. I pick up where I left off, even when years have passed, when I love someone. I just need to know that you WILL be back. 😢


Yeah, chances are high that you will feel gurt by what would seem to be quite normal to me.


I don't care about the hurt as long as I can treat the person the same way lol We can play that game all day, as long as I know what I'm up against and know what he's expecting. The key is knowing.


But the other side might.


And there lies the problem. So you would treat someone a certain way and just hope that they would understand and take it?

I can see why it's not working on my end then. I'm not so agreeable when it comes to this. I won't be treated like crap and just take it like some doormat. Maybe I'm wasting my time then. I wasn't looking at it from this perspective.


That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that it's mostly that the other side misunderstands what we are saying or doing and feels hurt as a result which in turn will hurt us also. So it might be okay for you to be hurt but it's not okay for us that you feel pain over something we have done or caused.
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It is ok, in my opinion. But do you verbalize that you've recognized what happened and try to work with the person?

You're killing me, I just got major heart eyes over you being hurt by hurting them 😆

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It usually simply goes wrong no matter what I do or how often I try.

Or how I often think things through.


Yeah. I understand that. 🙂

I keep having dreams about the Aqua and I wish they would just go away. I hardly ever dream and he’s so heavy on my conscious that I can’t even get peace there. It sucks and it’s annoying 😔😣
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.


IDK to all of the above
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Thanks 🙏I will thoroughly look through this example of an answer and seek truth from it.

I appreciate you taking the time out to come up with such a clever answer to all my life’s questions. Teach me more master! I know I’m not worthy, but I must ask! 😜😘
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

Not that I'm aware of, so don't know if it would work better than dating someone without Ven RX. It's not a struggle, it's being uncomfortable with mushy displays of affection, or someone that needs constant reassurance of my feelings. Isn't going to happen...

What was the issue with the venus rx relationships you had?
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Posted by saggurl88

This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.


IDK to all of the above


Thanks 🙏I will thoroughly look through this example of an answer and seek truth from it.

I appreciate you taking the time out to come up with such a clever answer to all my life’s questions. Teach me more master! I know I’m not worthy, but I must ask! 😜😘


Like I said.. I haven't really dated in years. Kind of difficult to answer anything but I will try.
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I was just giving you a hard time. lol You said you don't know, so I will take your word for it! 🙂 No worries.
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@saggurl88 there's a text limit. Continue

On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.


Sound bout right. But um 😕 hmm it just seem like those attractive shy men just ain't for you. You said you introverted. That's cool. In matters of love I think an extrovert man would be right up your alley. It seems Sagittarius women likes attractive men but when they get the chance of a lifetime with us that's when they find out it's not all roses.

This part has nothing to do with you. To the op I still haven't found anything regarding us being attractive having a Venus retrograde. Now that I red all the bad stuff about us I think there should be something good about us. I'll dig for some good stuff if I can find it.
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I prefer attractive, shy men. I don't want a showy extrovert. I like hidden, deep emotions. Not up front, shiny plastic that's gonna tell me a bunch of fake words just cause he thinks I want to hear it. I like truth over everything else, I will respect the person for it. Attractiveness is subjective too, because I can over look it for an average man, if we have a great connection.

"The chance of a lifetime" lol- I actually laughed and rolled my eyes at this. I take things day by day. A lifetime is very long. I need to see if it can even last a week 😛

You still didn't say your sign BTW. I don't think Gem, because your user names says Gemlover. What's your sun and venus?
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@saggurl88 there's a text limit. Continue

On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.


Sound bout right. But um 😕 hmm it just seem like those attractive shy men just ain't for you. You said you introverted. That's cool. In matters of love I think an extrovert man would be right up your alley. It seems Sagittarius women likes attractive men but when they get the chance of a lifetime with us that's when they find out it's not all roses.

This part has nothing to do with you. To the op I still haven't found anything regarding us being attractive having a venus retrograde. Now that I red all the bad stuff about us I think there should be something good about us. I'll dig for some good stuff if I can find it.

Oh and I'm a Gemini @saggurl88
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Sorry been at work all day

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-schwimmer/why-love-relationships-fa_b_7895972.html

Interestingly, Venus retrograde people are often beautiful or physically good-looking, with great posture and presence. However, despite their attractive outer appearance, they tend to be insecure and highly self-critical of themselves. Because of their deep feeling nature, small talk or superficialities don’t interest them.
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Posted by saggurl88

This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.
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Not good at receiving affection. My parents have always loved me and I love them to the ends of earth, but even they know that I've always cringed and been a little unnatural with receiving affection.

Lewd=often inappropriate. That's how I compliment sometimes though.

My fight was that I knew they were worth keeping, so I made an effort. I think they knew, but just couldn't accept my shortcomings.
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How have you seen it affect you in matters of love, relationships, sex, and/or the heart?

Retrograde Venus in Aqua at birth here. I find that I'm just as attracted to the unconventionally attractive as I am the conventionally attractive. Sometimes, I surprise my family with what I'm attracted to and I surprise myself with what I'm attracted to at times.

I also can oscillate between caring a ton for a person, and not caring at all. I can typically get over breakups fairly quick, but some have made me think and think about them on end, months after the fact.

I generally hate superficiality, and yet, I'm weirdly attracted to it and the IG selfie culture (though I hardly ever take pics).

I hardly ever open up even when fairly deep into a relationship, already fitting for a heavy Cap-influenced individual with a Virgo moon, but this is only accentuated with a retrograde Venus and it in cool Aqua.

So yeah.


Pretty much everything you said.
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I feel like we'd be good friends lol. Could tear the city up but also get into each others' feels. No homo.
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On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.


Sound bout right. But um 😕 hmm it just seem like those attractive shy men just ain't for you. You said you introverted. That's cool. In matters of love I think an extrovert man would be right up your alley. It seems Sagittarius women likes attractive men but when they get the chance of a lifetime with us that's when they find out it's not all roses.

This part has nothing to do with you. To the op I still haven't found anything regarding us being attractive having a Venus retrograde. Now that I red all the bad stuff about us I think there should be something good about us. I'll dig for some good stuff if I can find it.


I prefer attractive, shy men. I don't want a showy extrovert. I like hidden, deep emotions. Not up front, shiny plastic that's gonna tell me a bunch of fake words just cause he thinks I want to hear it. I like truth over everything else, I will respect the person for it. Attractiveness is subjective too, because I can over look it for an average man, if we have a great connection.

"The chance of a lifetime" lol- I actually laughed and rolled my eyes at this. I take things day by day. A lifetime is very long. I need to see if it can even last a week 😛

You still didn't say your sign BTW. I don't think Gem, because your user names says Gemlover. What's your sun and venus?


I'm a Gemini saggurl and my venus is in cancer.
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Oh! I heard Cancer is very loving and smothering (typical cancer stuff) in venus. So how is that when it’s in retrograde.

Have you been with someone with a Cancer moon? I wonder if that would be more comfortable for you? I seem to just get Cancer and Scorpios because of my placements. They are easy and it’s no hard work for me at all.
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.

Not good at receiving affection. My parents have always loved me and I love them to the ends of earth, but even they know that I've always cringed and been a little unnatural with receiving affection.

Lewd=often inappropriate. That's how I compliment sometimes though.

My fight was that I knew they were worth keeping, so I made an effort. I think they knew, but just couldn't accept my shortcomings.
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Awww I see. I understand the affection part. Because of childhood trauma. I can only be affectionate to my partner, in private. I rarely hug or touch other people and I don’t like being touched. 🙂 maybe this is why I’m comfortable with retro Venuses
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This is for anyone to answer with this placement.

Have you guys with Retro Venuses ever dated another person that had the same placement?

Do you think it would work better? Reading this thread makes me wonder because you all seem to get each other.

Do any of you know the underlying issue of why it doesn't work? Are people just not hanging in their with you or is the fighting and struggle too much for some?

I always attract retro grade Venus, so I'm trying to understand a little more about the placement.

I don't know what in my chart makes me attracted to them, must be my moon, I'm guessing.

I've never really been deep enough into a relationship to run a natal report chart of my sig other. But, I could see retro Venuses understanding each other more.

I guess I kind of feel it all. On one hand, I don't think the people I've been with have been completely willing to accept difficulties in our compatibility. On another hand, I can be pretty distant and unaffectionate, and in a way, the whole marriage and deep love scares me in a sense.

I think that maybe your since your moon is in Cancer, you may be drawn to nurturing and saving us poor retrograded Venus souls lol? And, it's been said that people with Retrograded Venus can often be pretty attractive, even if they rarely feel as such. I sometimes do not, and I even have an 8th house stellium, which I've heard oozes sexuality.


It must be my moon, I think as well.

I know what you’re saying about not feeling attractive. I’ve read that about Retrograde Venus. I’ve read that they almost have a body dysmorphia image of themselves. Where they don’t think they are attractive at all.

Of course I find them attractive but it may just be the taste I have in men 😜

I’ve never come across one that I wasn’t interested in.

I don’t know what the 8th house stellium means but I’m sure you can tell if you get hit on a lot. Sometimes confidence is all that it takes with a magnetic sex appeal. You don’t have to be nice looking. (I don’t know what you look like, so I can’t say whether you are or aren’t, just commenting)

So how long are you in these relationships when you find people aren’t sticking by you? Do you leave first or do they? Are you extremely argumentative?

Basically do you give up on them quickly or do they give up on you?

I wouldn't say I lack for confidence attraction-wise, but it runs in hot and cold streaks. I generally look pretty good all-things considered I believe, but I live in my head a lot.

Maybe a month or two max relationship-wise. I don't really believe I've had a full-on relationship where I'd call a woman my girlfriend or she'd call me my boyfriend. We may have had the methodology but not the label. Typically, if I've had 10-20 relationships like this, I'd say the woman leaves 80% of the time. I can often feel, however, when she's going to leave a few days before. So I mentally prep myself. Sometimes I fight for it, other times I just resign myself to the fate.

I don't believe I'm argumentative but I have found over the years that I can have a tendency to say/text the wrong thing, or not say/do something when something is needed to be said. Apparently retrograde Aqua specializes in shock, and having a Cap mercury in 8th and retrograde can make things complicated too. I try to tell my women that my actions say everything about me, not necessarily my words.

A pic of me is in my profile.


Do you know what you do in relationships that they don’t like? It’s just you being real or being critical?

Sorry. I’m just trying to understand 🙂

Do you think it’s the no affection aspect that makes the want to leave? You said you weren’t really that affectionate, right?

Do you give compliments?

When you get affection do you just accept it and do nothing? Like smile on the inside but look like grumpy cat on the outside??

I saw your pic. You look so really innocent with your long eyelashes lol.

Sorry I’m asking all these questions. But you’re answering and I’m just trying to understand more, so thanks for this 🙂





I think it's both. Cap and Virgo specialize in being real/critical. Pessimistic at the worst. I think I'm funny to many but it can probably sound pretty dark at times to others who can't deal with dry, deadpan humor.

Nah, I'm not that affectionate. Always feels pretty foreign to me when I try to be. If I really like someone I'll do my best but it feels awkward in my head.

I can give compliments but sometimes they can tend to be lewd. I tell people "Thank you" or over exaggerate when I get complimented on via text but I'm not demonstrative.

I've often been told by the opposite sex that they're jealous they don't have my eyelashes.

This is a little info about the 8th house stellium.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/scorpio-8th-house-pluto-types-general-qualities/

http://astroalive.com/post/146967555581/8th-house-stellium-just-a-few-things-many-leave

I'd say as a whole I'm just pretty polarizing.


So how are you at receiving affection, then? I'm familiar with Virgo moons, they nag a lot 🙂 I was with one for a long time.

Your link didn't work but I will google it later and try and see if I can find it. As far as "lewd" compliments, do you mean raunchy sex compliments? What's lewd mean?

I guess I've exhausted my questions. I seem to be asking similar ones. I don't think I have a better understanding, unfortunately 😢

Basically just that stuff makes you uncomfortable, so you don't do them. I just don't understand why people walk away or if retrograde just ends up giving up and would rather mope. But you did say you fought for some. I'm just wondering what your fight meant and did they even know.

But I guess that steps into a personal area and I still wouldn't be able to get a grasp of it, because it's based off your personality as a person , not just your Venus sign.

So thanks for trying. I feel like my mind isn't open enough to comprehend it all. Maybe I will look up the placement and read more in depth about it. Just retrograde Venus, not a specific sign in retrograde.


Just a friendly warning. It's bad. I red the retrograde venus thing and in all 12 of the signs and it ain't good. Unless you are fully prepare to cry or get ulcers in your stomach then go right ahead.
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Is there a good site that talks about each of the signs in retrograde at birth?
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On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.


Sound bout right. But um 😕 hmm it just seem like those attractive shy men just ain't for you. You said you introverted. That's cool. In matters of love I think an extrovert man would be right up your alley. It seems Sagittarius women likes attractive men but when they get the chance of a lifetime with us that's when they find out it's not all roses.

This part has nothing to do with you. To the op I still haven't found anything regarding us being attractive having a venus retrograde. Now that I red all the bad stuff about us I think there should be something good about us. I'll dig for some good stuff if I can find it.

Oh and I'm a Gemini @saggurl88


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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-schwimmer/why-love-relationships-fa_b_7895972.html

Interestingly, Venus retrograde people are often beautiful or physically good-looking, with great posture and presence. However, despite their attractive outer appearance, they tend to be insecure and highly self-critical of themselves. Because of their deep feeling nature, small talk or superficialities don’t interest them.


Wow, interesting. I got venus retrograde in cancer. Is being physically beautiful a venus retrograde thing in general? Or like can it be even more beautiful according to what sign it's in like say Libra?

Btw I read the one in Scorpio and I have to say that one is the most disturbing.
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Damn I need to read that one.
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On the low. Sag women for some odd reason is too loud and most of the times will make us ones like me embarrass in public. I don't like the idea of attention seeking. But in private if you keep trying and trying hard and show them that you are really interesting in them there is a chance that you won't fail with them. Coming on too fast with us aint gone get it. We need lots of time to come to a decision. Give us space. That's all we need. And don't be too direct. That's your failure right there.

In the case of me, I'm just easy. They (Sag women) can ask me anything and it's like I'll agree or just say yeah to get them off my back.


What sign are you?

I'm not loud at all. I'm more introverted.

And yes, I keep failing because of my directness, But I can't change that part of my personality so it just means that person isn't for me in the end. I accept people for whoever they are and work through issues and keep coming back. I like knowing everything that I'm dealing with.

If they can't accept me fully, like I accept them, then we've failed from the beginning.


Sound bout right. But um 😕 hmm it just seem like those attractive shy men just ain't for you. You said you introverted. That's cool. In matters of love I think an extrovert man would be right up your alley. It seems Sagittarius women likes attractive men but when they get the chance of a lifetime with us that's when they find out it's not all roses.

This part has nothing to do with you. To the op I still haven't found anything regarding us being attractive having a Venus retrograde. Now that I red all the bad stuff about us I think there should be something good about us. I'll dig for some good stuff if I can find it.


I prefer attractive, shy men. I don't want a showy extrovert. I like hidden, deep emotions. Not up front, shiny plastic that's gonna tell me a bunch of fake words just cause he thinks I want to hear it. I like truth over everything else, I will respect the person for it. Attractiveness is subjective too, because I can over look it for an average man, if we have a great connection.

"The chance of a lifetime" lol- I actually laughed and rolled my eyes at this. I take things day by day. A lifetime is very long. I need to see if it can even last a week 😛

You still didn't say your sign BTW. I don't think Gem, because your user names says Gemlover. What's your sun and venus?


I'm a Gemini saggurl and my venus is in cancer.


Oh! I heard Cancer is very loving and smothering (typical cancer stuff) in venus. So how is that when it’s in retrograde.

Have you been with someone with a Cancer moon? I wonder if that would be more comfortable for you? I seem to just get Cancer and Scorpios because of my placements. They are easy and it’s no hard work for me at all.


I don't think I've been with a cancer moon that I can recall. This current one is a Pisces moon and she appear more sensitive you won't think she's a Sagittarius. I've been with a few Scorpio moons as well.

As far as how it's like when in retrograde. Tbh I wouldn't really know. We have our lil ups and downs argues here and there about some of everything from our 5 year old to my female friends I takes out (yeah she's starting to catch on to that). Then i wants to be left alone yada yada ya. So yeah you can clearly see our relationship ain't a heavenly one. I don't know if venus retrograde in cancer got anything to do with that. Do you think it does?
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I don't know either. It's part of the reason I hopped into this thread and semi hijacked it 😆 I was trying to find out more info too.