The indecisiveness of a libra moon?

Posted by Arielle83
Why does he need to be on your timeline?

Having kids is a big deal. Getting married is a big deal.

He might not be ready. He might be saying in a year because you’re demanding it.

Let the man breath ffs.

Posted by Toti
I'm probably biased since I can't stand placements like leo moon,scorpio venus, libra sun, moon,venus, and mars and Pisces sun. I sound like a broken record around here😂always repeating the same things.
In general, libra mooners are very indecisive, inconsistent, people pleasers. Hates confrontations of all kinds. People who will probably ghost you first because they can't tell you no in your face. They want to be loved by everyone. Easily manipulated, whereas libra sun mars, and venus are the master manipulators.

Posted by Arielle83
What age are you two?

Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

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Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

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Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

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Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

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Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

I am judging you because you are completely illogical right now.

Guess what? I have your boyfriend's placements. And all I see from you is an illogical rushing of life. It's this neurotic instant gratification, that is obnoxious. You want a man, who hasn't even finish college, to commit to raising children, when he isn't even in a place now, or even in two years time to be fiscally and emotionally responsible for another innocent human being. And you are the "analytical" mooner?

GTFO. You're 24, and pressuring someone who doesn't even know what he wants for himself, let alone what he wants for his future because of your time line. Not his.

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Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

I am judging you because you are completely illogical right now.

Guess what? I have your boyfriend's placements. And all I see from you is an illogical rushing of life. It's this neurotic instant gratification, that is obnoxious. You want a man, who hasn't even finish college, to commit to raising children, when he isn't even in a place now, or even in two years time to be fiscally and emotionally responsible for another innocent human being. And you are the "analytical" mooner?

GTFO. You're 24, and pressuring someone who doesn't even know what he wants for himself, let alone what he wants for his future because of your time line. Not his.

Yes, and I understand. I am not pressuring him. If he decides to end the relationship, then that is fine. If I decide to end the relationship that is fine. I just told him what I wanted and left it at that. He is the one who came out and said he was ready for those things (not me)! So, when he tells me one thing and I'm excited for it and then he backs out, of course that's going to make me upset. Anyone who truly loves their significant other will understand their point of view always... but it will still upset you when thing are constantly changing. I'm giving up a lot of myself for him and he does for me. It's hard to judge a relationship based off of what you read online. Yes- I am a deep deep feeler because I'm a cancer sun; but,I'm also very very very giving to his needs. So, honestly... we don't have to have a family so young... it's just that he's the one who has come out and said he was ready. But relationships are for these reasons. If we cannot agree on a timeline, then yes... a break up is possible or someone will have to compromise (and it will most likely be me). And that's fine. I love him and always will. As a cancer, I believe life is not all about finances. Yes, you need to be stable, but we're fine. I more so need to know he's emotionally stable and a great father. So, yes... his indecisiveness makes me question things. But my grandparents got through school while helping each other out while having kids. It can be done. Life is precious and more than strict rules and societal standards! So, when he's ready he's ready... but to me, those things are deal breakers because I'm not going to wait until I'm 30 to be able to have children. I will not be happy. But I also need someone I can depend on. I can't depend on his indecisive nature. One minute he wants to buy a condo with me and the next he wants to move in with his mother. So, who knows. I'm tired at this point. I'm not too sure why you're so angry and I feel bad that you get so upset over a post but thank you for the advice! I appreciate your time.

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Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

I am judging you because you are completely illogical right now.

Guess what? I have your boyfriend's placements. And all I see from you is an illogical rushing of life. It's this neurotic instant gratification, that is obnoxious. You want a man, who hasn't even finish college, to commit to raising children, when he isn't even in a place now, or even in two years time to be fiscally and emotionally responsible for another innocent human being. And you are the "analytical" mooner?

GTFO. You're 24, and pressuring someone who doesn't even know what he wants for himself, let alone what he wants for his future because of your time line. Not his.

Yes, and I understand. I am not pressuring him. If he decides to end the relationship, then that is fine. If I decide to end the relationship that is fine. I just told him what I wanted and left it at that. He is the one who came out and said he was ready for those things (not me)! So, when he tells me one thing and I'm excited for it and then he backs out, of course that's going to make me upset. Anyone who truly loves their significant other will understand their point of view always... but it will still upset you when thing are constantly changing. I'm giving up a lot of myself for him and he does for me. It's hard to judge a relationship based off of what you read online. Yes- I am a deep deep feeler because I'm a cancer sun; but,I'm also very very very giving to his needs. So, honestly... we don't have to have a family so young... it's just that he's the one who has come out and said he was ready. But relationships are for these reasons. If we cannot agree on a timeline, then yes... a break up is possible or someone will have to compromise (and it will most likely be me). And that's fine. I love him and always will. As a cancer, I believe life is not all about finances. Yes, you need to be stable, but we're fine. I more so need to know he's emotionally stable and a great father. So, yes... his indecisiveness makes me question things. But my grandparents got through school while helping each other out while having kids. It can be done. Life is precious and more than strict rules and societal standards! So, when he's ready he's ready... but to me, those things are deal breakers because I'm not going to wait until I'm 30 to be able to have children. I will not be happy. But I also need someone I can depend on. I can't depend on his indecisive nature. One minute he wants to buy a condo with me and the next he wants to move in with his mother. So, who knows. I'm tired at this point. I'm not too sure why you're so angry and I feel bad that you get so upset over a post but thank you for the advice! I appreciate your time.

The problem I have with you, is your continual displaying of everything "negative" about your partner, while shining the best light on yourself.

If you think this is angry, then I can't help you. I am being factually blunt. It is you, having an emotional reaction to my statements, not I.

Here are facts, you continually bring up moon signs, and sun signs as a reason to "justify" reactions. In all of your responses, you have yet to make a singular analytically driven response. Everything is based on emotions. So do yourself a favor, and stop saying because "my analytical moon". And what you deem a trait of his "indecisive" moon, has nothing to do with astrology. You move from placement to placement, justifying everything. It's like you read a bunch of memes on astrology, and are being hugely cliche about it.

Life is about finances, plain and simple. Some people would rather wait, to be financially stable in order to provide their children the best opportunities. Having kids is not a small decision anyone should be making. Our fiscal climate in modern times is HUGELY different from that of decades ago. Most college students, once they obtain a degree, are hugely in debt due to the inflated cost of continued education. Is your boyfriend indecisive? Yes. Because he is 22. Because, as someone who is obtaining a Master's in Nursing, you should know that the frontal lobe of a person's brain doesn't even fully mature until late 20's. Do you really expect someone, who is just now getting his feet into the real world, has the maturity to become a father to a child in 2 years time, when he is only half way through his own undergrad degree? And that is if he obtains his bachelor's in 4 years time, without delay. Hell, he probably still relies on his mom more then he is independent.

If you can't correlate the reason why I laugh at you pointing out how much of an oxymoron it is that you are claiming to be analytical, I don't know what to tell you. No one is disputing what your deal breakers are. Your post is just filled with a lot of irony.

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Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

I am judging you because you are completely illogical right now.

Guess what? I have your boyfriend's placements. And all I see from you is an illogical rushing of life. It's this neurotic instant gratification, that is obnoxious. You want a man, who hasn't even finish college, to commit to raising children, when he isn't even in a place now, or even in two years time to be fiscally and emotionally responsible for another innocent human being. And you are the "analytical" mooner?

GTFO. You're 24, and pressuring someone who doesn't even know what he wants for himself, let alone what he wants for his future because of your time line. Not his.

Yes, and I understand. I am not pressuring him. If he decides to end the relationship, then that is fine. If I decide to end the relationship that is fine. I just told him what I wanted and left it at that. He is the one who came out and said he was ready for those things (not me)! So, when he tells me one thing and I'm excited for it and then he backs out, of course that's going to make me upset. Anyone who truly loves their significant other will understand their point of view always... but it will still upset you when thing are constantly changing. I'm giving up a lot of myself for him and he does for me. It's hard to judge a relationship based off of what you read online. Yes- I am a deep deep feeler because I'm a cancer sun; but,I'm also very very very giving to his needs. So, honestly... we don't have to have a family so young... it's just that he's the one who has come out and said he was ready. But relationships are for these reasons. If we cannot agree on a timeline, then yes... a break up is possible or someone will have to compromise (and it will most likely be me). And that's fine. I love him and always will. As a cancer, I believe life is not all about finances. Yes, you need to be stable, but we're fine. I more so need to know he's emotionally stable and a great father. So, yes... his indecisiveness makes me question things. But my grandparents got through school while helping each other out while having kids. It can be done. Life is precious and more than strict rules and societal standards! So, when he's ready he's ready... but to me, those things are deal breakers because I'm not going to wait until I'm 30 to be able to have children. I will not be happy. But I also need someone I can depend on. I can't depend on his indecisive nature. One minute he wants to buy a condo with me and the next he wants to move in with his mother. So, who knows. I'm tired at this point. I'm not too sure why you're so angry and I feel bad that you get so upset over a post but thank you for the advice! I appreciate your time.

The problem I have with you, is your continual displaying of everything "negative" about your partner, while shining the best light on yourself.

If you think this is angry, then I can't help you. I am being factually blunt. It is you, having an emotional reaction to my statements, not I.

Here are facts, you continually bring up moon signs, and sun signs as a reason to "justify" reactions. In all of your responses, you have yet to make a singular analytically driven response. Everything is based on emotions. So do yourself a favor, and stop saying because "my analytical moon". And what you deem a trait of his "indecisive" moon, has nothing to do with astrology. You move from placement to placement, justifying everything. It's like you read a bunch of memes on astrology, and are being hugely cliche about it.

Life is about finances, plain and simple. Some people would rather wait, to be financially stable in order to provide their children the best opportunities. Having kids is not a small decision anyone should be making. Our fiscal climate in modern times is HUGELY different from that of decades ago. Most college students, once they obtain a degree, are hugely in debt due to the inflated cost of continued education. Is your boyfriend indecisive? Yes. Because he is 22. Because, as someone who is obtaining a Master's in Nursing, you should know that the frontal lobe of a person's brain doesn't even fully mature until late 20's. Do you really expect someone, who is just now getting his feet into the real world, has the maturity to become a father to a child in 2 years time, when he is only half way through his own undergrad degree? And that is if he obtains his bachelor's in 4 years time, without delay. Hell, he probably still relies on his mom more then he is independent.

If you can't correlate the reason why I laugh at you pointing out how much of an oxymoron it is that you are claiming to be analytical, I don't know what to tell you. No one is disputing what your deal breakers are. Your post is just filled with a lot of irony.

OHHH, girl!! Heck no! I am anything but perfect ! He knows that about me! I love my boyfriend so much! I was angry and I did the wrong thing by pointing out his flaws. I did not mean it in a hurtful way and I did the wrong thing. He's an amazing man and has taught me so much! I'm just trying to figure out what to do with our relationship. I brought astrology into the question because I see very similar libran qualities here! I also asked this in the astrology forum for a reason. No, I am definitely not deep into astrology; therefore, my knowledge isn't as great as it should be... but, that is kind of why I was asking a question. I do not really appreciate the belittlement, but I thank you for your advice. I see the logic behind your answer, and even though I disagree, you've helped me out greatly! I would never force him to do anything he doesn't want to do. Yes, my question came off very harsh because I can become annoyed easily.I guess I just wish he would stick to one thing at a time instead of getting my hopes up every day. His need to please everyone else around him (even me) makes him unsure about all areas of his life. I love him so I'm very understanding. I'm a very empathetic individual and can understand; however, it's hard to plan my life. I don't think it's very fair to me and my future family. And yes, at the end of the day, that is for me to decide if I want that partner in my life. Yes, your frontal lobe is fully matured by the age of 25; however, I know many many many younger and mature individuals. So, yes, I have a different view point but thanks for everything

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

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Posted by Waterbearerwearer
Libra mooners don’t give a butter unless you do. He proli senses your self orientation and checks out in his mind. I checked out just reading your post.

Okay! Then what do I do? I need advice. Should I be more understanding and give up everything I want in my life because he can't make up his mind or should I just break up with him and move on? Why is that fair to me? I've been the most patient and kind person to him from day one but his lack of "not knowing what he wants" is making me wait on him. So, do I just give up everything for him?

"Analytical" moon ain't being so analytical. lol

Not everyone has the same way they want to live their lives. I value simplicity and family. Those are the things I want. I don't blame him for being indecisive... but we will not workout then. And that's fine. If your family life, morals, values, wants in life do not align, it's better to move on! Doesn't mean I don't love him from the bottom of my heart! And no... I don't want kids until I'm 24! I'll have my masters in nursing by then and I'll be ready! He's just starting college.. so yes, one of us will have to have income coming in. However, I'm not so sure why you're judging my life decisions. I would rather you just give me advice. Thank you

I am judging you because you are completely illogical right now.

Guess what? I have your boyfriend's placements. And all I see from you is an illogical rushing of life. It's this neurotic instant gratification, that is obnoxious. You want a man, who hasn't even finish college, to commit to raising children, when he isn't even in a place now, or even in two years time to be fiscally and emotionally responsible for another innocent human being. And you are the "analytical" mooner?

GTFO. You're 24, and pressuring someone who doesn't even know what he wants for himself, let alone what he wants for his future because of your time line. Not his.

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

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Posted by Cg2016
I don't believe it's indecisiveness. I believe he's probably scared. Having kids is no small thing. He's also young af. He probably wants to make you happy but deep down knows he won't be ready any time soon.

I say leave him so he won't live his life in regret. Same for you I suppose.

Surely, he loves his freedom so when he grows up and realizes he gave it away he may resent that. Idk just my two cents.

Posted by pisceswoman123
He will be indecisive all his life. You either accepted or move on. Libra mooners are like that.

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

Hahahhaha! Thank goodness his moon and venus placements are in his 8th house! He's the most loyal man I've ever met and he's told me how I'm the one he's going to marry and he never wants to break up with me. Those were his words not mine. Your placements must be in your 5th house

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He will be indecisive all his life. You either accepted or move on. Libra mooners are like that.

I’ve found leeb mooners indecisive about the little things. Where to eat? Table or booth? What to order?

But when it comes to the big questions, they know what they want.

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I don't believe it's indecisiveness. I believe he's probably scared. Having kids is no small thing. He's also young af. He probably wants to make you happy but deep down knows he won't be ready any time soon.

I say leave him so he won't live his life in regret. Same for you I suppose.

Surely, he loves his freedom so when he grows up and realizes he gave it away he may resent that. Idk just my two cents.

Thank you! I appreciate it 💛

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I'm not demanding anything! Trust me! Yes, I do want a family young and if that's something we cannot agree on, then it's best to move on. But I would never force anyone to do what they don't want to do! My problem is his indecisiveness! He'll tell me one thing and then change his mind. It's hard for me to plan my life around that... you know? Especially because I'm offering to pay the bills so he can focus on school

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

I just don't understand the rush to have children at 22, with everything that is at play. It comes off as not really thinking ahead in terms of all the ramifications of having children would have on all aspects of life.

Yes, she could have her Master's in Nursing by 24, but that doesn't automatically mean that a lucrative position that would be needed to financially take care of a child, or a partner that is still in school, would be secured. Experience is usually valued more then a degree at this point. She will be vying for positions against other individuals with the same degrees and experience as she has. Which would likely be an entry level position. Now even with that, she would be wanting to get pregnant rather quickly after securing employment. But within a year or so of that, she would be trying to actively get pregnant. If that were the case, she would likely take at least 6 weeks maternity time off, if not 12 weeks. Then the added expense of everything that a newborn baby entails, all this would be occurring while he was still finishing school, and likely if at all, working a part time position. Not to mention, at that point, it is well past 6 months, so any student loans obtained would have begun to need to be paid back.

The first year, would be a huge financial struggle. Nope, no way. I wouldn't want that. lol

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

I just don't understand the rush to have children at 22, with everything that is at play. It comes off as not really thinking ahead in terms of all the ramifications of having children would have on all aspects of life.

Yes, she could have her Master's in Nursing by 24, but that doesn't automatically mean that a lucrative position that would be needed to financially take care of a child, or a partner that is still in school, would be secured. Experience is usually valued more then a degree at this point. She will be vying for positions against other individuals with the same degrees and experience as she has. Which would likely be an entry level position. Now even with that, she would be wanting to get pregnant rather quickly after securing employment. But within a year or so of that, she would be trying to actively get pregnant. If that were the case, she would likely take at least 6 weeks maternity time off, if not 12 weeks. Then the added expense of everything that a newborn baby entails, all this would be occurring while he was still finishing school, and likely if at all, working a part time position. Not to mention, at that point, it is well past 6 months, so any student loans obtained would have begun to need to be paid back.

The first year, would be a huge financial struggle. Nope, no way. I wouldn't want that. lol

OMG I ALMOST CRIED READING THIS YES! YES! THIS IS REALITY!

Now take all that and imagine the boy amd his journey with the same details.... and our placements and her seemingly bossiness... he'd be in like utter sorrow...

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Posted by Vigirl21
But I also need someone I can depend on....I can't depend on his indecisive nature

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Posted by nikkistar
22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

I just don't understand the rush to have children at 22, with everything that is at play. It comes off as not really thinking ahead in terms of all the ramifications of having children would have on all aspects of life.

Yes, she could have her Master's in Nursing by 24, but that doesn't automatically mean that a lucrative position that would be needed to financially take care of a child, or a partner that is still in school, would be secured. Experience is usually valued more then a degree at this point. She will be vying for positions against other individuals with the same degrees and experience as she has. Which would likely be an entry level position. Now even with that, she would be wanting to get pregnant rather quickly after securing employment. But within a year or so of that, she would be trying to actively get pregnant. If that were the case, she would likely take at least 6 weeks maternity time off, if not 12 weeks. Then the added expense of everything that a newborn baby entails, all this would be occurring while he was still finishing school, and likely if at all, working a part time position. Not to mention, at that point, it is well past 6 months, so any student loans obtained would have begun to need to be paid back.

The first year, would be a huge financial struggle. Nope, no way. I wouldn't want that. lol

OMG I ALMOST CRIED READING THIS YES! YES! THIS IS REALITY!

Now take all that and imagine the boy amd his journey with the same details.... and our placements and her seemingly bossiness... he'd be in like utter sorrow...

It's it funny how neurotic we can be about the BIG stuff in life? lol We will sit there and think of every detail to make the appropriate answer for ourselves.

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Posted by Arielle83
If your relationship is rocky already, because you believe he is the problem, your opinions of him when you bring kids into the picture will be even worse.

The ridicule you throw out at him shows resentment and you seem to be one of those ppl that will push until they get what they want.

I think you should move on.

Kids don’t make things better.

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Why do you want kids? Dogs are so much more fun.

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If your relationship is rocky already, because you believe he is the problem, your opinions of him when you bring kids into the picture will be even worse.

The ridicule you throw out at him shows resentment and you seem to be one of those ppl that will push until they get what they want.

I think you should move on.

Kids don’t make things better.

I'm not the people who get what I want. I rarely do. I actually give up too much of myself. I don't think you can really judge a person based off of their frustration and what they write on an internet website. I was annoyed and frustrated but my boyfriend and I are actually very very very close. I've always told him I wanted a family young and he was not on board at first. I dropped it and then he told me that he was ready to start trying in a year time. Just yesterday, he has now changed his mind and doesn't want kids for another six years. I think anyone with emotions with get notes and upset. But I love him and will do anything for him. It's just hard for me to trust that we'll even have those things one day because of how much he changes his mind. It took him until 21 to get his license because of his indecisiveness. So it's hard sometimes but I love him

Why do u need a family this young?

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

I just don't understand the rush to have children at 22, with everything that is at play. It comes off as not really thinking ahead in terms of all the ramifications of having children would have on all aspects of life.

Yes, she could have her Master's in Nursing by 24, but that doesn't automatically mean that a lucrative position that would be needed to financially take care of a child, or a partner that is still in school, would be secured. Experience is usually valued more then a degree at this point. She will be vying for positions against other individuals with the same degrees and experience as she has. Which would likely be an entry level position. Now even with that, she would be wanting to get pregnant rather quickly after securing employment. But within a year or so of that, she would be trying to actively get pregnant. If that were the case, she would likely take at least 6 weeks maternity time off, if not 12 weeks. Then the added expense of everything that a newborn baby entails, all this would be occurring while he was still finishing school, and likely if at all, working a part time position. Not to mention, at that point, it is well past 6 months, so any student loans obtained would have begun to need to be paid back.

The first year, would be a huge financial struggle. Nope, no way. I wouldn't want that. lol

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22 and ready to have kids and married already. No wonder homie is "indecisive".

Trust me he doesn't want it. I put that on my life. He flip flops between this stable grass he's on and then he also probably has thoughts of allllll of the greener grass that may be out there lmao.

I mean that's how I think as a scorp/leeb

LOL, I know, I have the same placements. I grew up saying "I want kids as long as I can give them back"

Love my son too, but I have never had a want for a football team of kids. One, or two, max. Nothing more then what I can provide for securely.

I am almost 26 and still scared of the thought of having kids without being financially stable. And lmaoo I said the same thing about as long as I can give them back.

I could imagine he also wouldn't feel so secure with having her support him for years because who's to say what kind of job he'll get after college. He probably would rather his mom do the supporting.

I feel like making up his mind now at 22 is a bit unreasonable. But young people think they're grown until they're grown and then they look back like wow I was so little wth was I thinking?! Lmao.

So true. I remember thinking I knew everything from 18 to 21. Then I got to my age now, and I am like JFC I STILL GOTTA GROW UP. lol

Omg yesss lmaooo. I'm waiting for the day I become more adultier lmaooo.

Maybe she should break up with him. He may regret having kids so young and giving up his freedom so soon.

I love your point about instant gratification.

I love my freedom so much lmaooo.

I just don't understand the rush to have children at 22, with everything that is at play. It comes off as not really thinking ahead in terms of all the ramifications of having children would have on all aspects of life.

Yes, she could have her Master's in Nursing by 24, but that doesn't automatically mean that a lucrative position that would be needed to financially take care of a child, or a partner that is still in school, would be secured. Experience is usually valued more then a degree at this point. She will be vying for positions against other individuals with the same degrees and experience as she has. Which would likely be an entry level position. Now even with that, she would be wanting to get pregnant rather quickly after securing employment. But within a year or so of that, she would be trying to actively get pregnant. If that were the case, she would likely take at least 6 weeks maternity time off, if not 12 weeks. Then the added expense of everything that a newborn baby entails, all this would be occurring while he was still finishing school, and likely if at all, working a part time position. Not to mention, at that point, it is well past 6 months, so any student loans obtained would have begun to need to be paid back.

The first year, would be a huge financial struggle. Nope, no way. I wouldn't want that. lol

Honestly, I just want to say thank you for your advice! I think I was more so personally upset about things happening in the relationship and I just blurted out how I was feeling without thinking of the needs of my partner! Your advice really helped me even though it was something I did not necessarily want to hear during that period of time. I ended up talking to him about why he feels the way he feels and told him I need to be more understanding of his fears, needs, and wants. I can understand where he is coming from and I do not want to force him into something he is not ready for! I am totally not someone who cares only about myself nor who thinks highly of myself! I make mistakes and make the wrong decisions like everyone else :-)! Relationships are meant for learning and growing! So, thank you for your advice! It helped tremendously

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