Sweeping me off my feet..... (Page 2)

CapyWife, i've been reading this topic with great interest and i have to admit i have yet to hear better advice than these ladies have given you.There's a lot to learn and understand from what their telling you, information that really transcends the matter of sun signs (him being a cancer).Personally, i'm saving every reply and i'm keeping it for future reference because it's truly precious.Thank you a lot tiki and leokitten for your advice, it's helping others as well!

I agree Alissa , I have taken the link to this post and sent it to close girlfriends of my to read the replies cause they really are priceless for us women.

Well Capywife,

Let me just make one small suggestion. It might be my own personal opinion BUT YOU will feel alot better if you experience what I am about to share with YOU!

I don't know where you live but I have seen some of your photos and you my dear are beautiful. I would suggest you go to the MOST EXPENSIVE store in the area where you live. I MEAN the most expensive store EVER where you KNOW you practically couldn't really afford anything in the store.

LOOK around and touch anything that you deem expensive. Just "feel" it and imagine YOU yourself being that item. Girl, if YOU don't think, act, smell, taste yourself as being expensive! I suggest YOU FEEL YOU ARE EXPENSIVE! I MEAN a REALLY expensive JEWEL and if a man is not living up to YOUR expectations, then he cannot have you. He has to know he is NOT dealing with WALMART or KMART if he wants you, he has to work HARD to keep you because YOU value your worth.

YOU THINK, TASTE, and BE expensive. You are the newest model drop top BMW, and NO test driving! Not unless you do what you have to "keep" up with the maintenance. If you have that attitude, you will have the man of your dreams. Trust me on this one. A man needs to know that he is dealing with a "expensive" treasure.

That means you will not whine, beg, complain, or BE LOW STATUS on the begging end OF NO MAN or NO relationship. NEVER!

The best way to be is BE REAL, be authentic, if you know you are the take charge kind of woman, the woman that plans and gives and feels comfortable being the pack leader and likes to take over then find a man that complements that energy, and you may very well find yourself attracted to that kind of energy also but just know if you find a man that is very masculine by nature and you are too well its total conflict you both have to QUICKLY decide whose going to be in charge or there will huge heapings of competing, fighting, dominating, controlling kind of energy within the relationship

If your feminine energy and you enjoy leaning back, being the girl, allowing a man to do most of the work in the relationship then don't get a man thats the same way, again total confusion, you both will end up staring at one another and waiting for someone to get the energy exchange going

All this means is finding out WHO YOU ARE which allows you to be totally vulnerable as you show him your true self (scary but the most effective way to be) you allow a man to see you as you really are and you decide if he's a good match, meaning he can complement your swag, complement your way of being

If a man is dominant and you are too then thats just not going to work long term UNLESS you the couple comes to terms with whose going to lead day one or you arbitrarily decide for yourself you will allow him to lead without discussing it with him ss to keep balance in the relationship.

Be patient and hold out for the man that gets you as a person and is okay with you as person and will do any and everything to be with you and give you what you need and want

I agree with Krobe...Capywife you are the bomb ok, I don't know were you live but you need to find out were the real men hang out, men that have there stuff together and allow them to show you how great you are, don't lower your standards by being with a difficult man....go somewhere really nice and just lean back, look around, feel what its like to be in one of those expensive hard to get places, you know that expensive restuarant that everyone wants to get into or that club that everyone waits hours to get into or a really expensive store and just feel the expensive items and how those items make you yearn to work 3 jobs to buy that beautiful purse that cost more than your rent....

there is a reason for this, as you begin to be around expensive things, you begin to FEEL expensive, feel like you worth it and men will sense it too...thats how it works, you will begin to draw those men to you that LOVE and ADORE expensive hard to get women

Your expensive attitude, your expensive swag will compel him to give you what you need to be happy with him and it won't be any manipulating game playing going on he will JUST KNOW how to be with you to keep you, the urges and feelings you bring up in him will inspire him to do what it takes to have that expensive hard to find woman that every man wants on his team then you will KNOW this is the attitude you take with all men, its not about being better than any other woman, its about confidence and telling the world I'm worth it flaws and all, you have officially become an ALPHA female, your a leader not a follower and you dance to your own tune in life.

Men the high status Alpha male men that have the good jobs, charming, alluring, good smelling men that are willing to do what it takes to keep you will show up and the men that are low status resistant men will fall to the way side.

"LOOK around and touch anything that you deem expensive. Just "feel" it and imagine YOU yourself being that item. Girl, if YOU don't think, act, smell, taste yourself as being expensive! I suggest YOU FEEL YOU ARE EXPENSIVE! I MEAN a REALLY expensive JEWEL and if a man is not living up to YOUR expectations, then he cannot have you. He has to know he is NOT dealing with WALMART or KMART if he wants you, he has to work HARD to keep you because YOU value your worth.

YOU THINK, TASTE, and BE expensive. You are the newest model drop top BMW, and NO test driving! Not unless you do what you have to "keep" up with the maintenance. If you have that attitude, you will have the man of your dreams. Trust me on this one. A man needs to know that he is dealing with a "expensive" treasure. " END QUOTE

WOW.... i think i might just do that.. i'm going to have to print this out to use it as a reminder during those hard times with myself.

Krobe- you've been a blessing!

"well ladies, it's a known fact that women are usually the ones who push for the relationship to go forward, or who call the shots when it comes to buying a new car, a new house. in all the couples that I know, the woman is calling the shots, guys are usually the slow ones"

there are women like this everywhere but I know for me, I wouldn't be happy having to stand behind my man nudge him into building a relationship with me by taking him over, dominating him, I wouldn't respect him at all, I would keep him around because he's easy but I wouldn't be that attracted to him

Tiki you got me pumpped up.... I'm about to bust loose over here...lmao...lol

This song describes it all.... i just listened to it...

Jennifer Hudson - ?Spotlight? Lyrics

Are you a man who cherishes and cares for me?
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?
Are you a guard in a prison, maximum security?
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?
Do we stay home all the time cuz you want me to yourself?
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?
Or am I locked away, had a feeling that I'd find someone else
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?

[Chorus]
Well, I don't like living under your spotlight
Just because you think I might find somebody worthy
Well, I don't like living under your spotlight
Baby if you treat me right, you won't have to worry

____ relationship, fulfilling your needs as well as mine
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?
Or is this just my sentence, am I doing time?
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?
If this is love, real, real love, then I'm staying no doubt
But if I'm just a prisoner, then I'm busting out
Is that true? Is that true? Is that true?

LK good analogy and i agree with you.

tiki what's your sign?

I'm an Aquarius and I EARNED my stripes, I shed many tears and made many mistakes thus I have walked the walk and talked the talk and I know what its like to be with men that are resistant and just don't feel like giving to a woman, that are nice 10% of the time and mean the rest of the time, the hot and cold men, the men that take take take, hello!! Oh hell NO LOL!!

Be pumped and stay pumped and jus know as you begin to restructure how you deal with a man you will feel akward, you will feel scared, you will second guess your attitude based on the guy that your dealing with, stand firm, just know its all part of the process and its natural to be afraid to lose but if you stand firm on what you want, you will see magic happen, you will WATCH how he gets off that emotional roller coaster ride he's got you on and man up or LEAVE.

Set some strong boundaries inside so he can know how far he can go with you, don't let him piss all over you, claim you and GIVE YOU NOTHING BUT HEARTACHE AND CONFUSION too many women dealing and living with these kind of hellish men...let him go if he can't make you happy no excuses being made for him why he can't or won't, don't lay down your Goddess crown and attempt to convince that your a Goddess, he either gets it or he don't and please don't make excuses for him being emotionally ill equipped to love a woman

If he really wants you then he will come back and do what it takes or he will go on about his way and find another woman to play games with and just know just because you set strong boundaries doesn't make you a mean bitch, you can still be nice and warm, happy and inviting with a man but when he try to put you in the basement you have to do whats best for you at all times.

Men the high status Alpha male men that have the good jobs, charming, alluring, good smelling men that are willing to do what it takes to keep you will show up and the men that are low status resistant men will fall to the way side.

HEY! Even an RESISTANT man will do what he has to have a EXPENSIVE biotch! He knows she is rare, a jewel, she values her time energy and she values her HEART. She places HER heart first. She is TRUE to herself! She is real, authentic VALUABLE and she will not wait around and waste ANY of her time on BS behavior.

A GOOD man is not hard to find. Women tend to lead in relationships but they truly ARE not really happy. The man becomes easy, he is a doormat and you will not respect a man LONG term who doesn't have a backbone. A man who lets the woman take the lead and do all the work is in it for the benefits. Why? Because less work he has to do and he is not in it for long term anyways so why not let the woman do ALL the work. Free ride on me.

Yet, eventually, he will feel empty inside, he will go outside the relationship and cheat. You will not complete his "forever" feeling. You will be what he is with for NOW, he can always change his mind.

well ladies, it's a known fact that women are usually the ones who push for the relationship to go forward, or who call the shots when it comes to buying a new car, a new house. in all the couples that I know, the woman is calling the shots, guys are usually the slow ones

Well this is the problem. The more you push, the less you get. Hey, I am not knocking women who push for the relationships. Don't get me wrong, however, see if YOU are REALLY happy doing the majority of the work and letting your man be the "woman" in the relationship.

I know I would be frustrated. I would be upset if I pushed everything forward to be disappointed long term. You will be disappointed with a man you have to mother, take care of(who loses every dayum job he gets), and just DOING mostly everything to keep the relationship moving forward. Your man will get bored with this, he will feel you are no longer "a mystery" and move on from you for long term.

Divorce rate is at a ALL time high right now and I guess most women just don't know why or what they are doing wrong.

Resistent men are too much work at least for me, I agree that they can and will come off of it once a woman sets some strong boundaries but these kind of men are the hardest men to be with in a relationship, old toxic habits will have to be changed not impossible but it will all depend on the woman and how she behaves again not impossible if there is enough attraction there he will flip and give her what she needs in the relationship but she better dayum well know how to be and have some self control, huge amounts of patience and have a strong sense of self so he can't tear her down when he's in that dog her out mindset and lots and lots of confidence or he will rip her up LOL...sorry but its true

There aren't that many relationship-savy guys in the world, and it takes them quite a bit to mature too. therefore the woman might end up making the decisions but always allowing the man to think it was his idea I see nothing wrong with it, it makes life easier

Yes, it is. Maybe not mature men but their are men who REALLY are men. They know what they want and you don't have to do NOTHING but let HIM please YOU. Yeah, you will eventually be there for him to help out when times are really, really, really tough. It is in a MAN's NATURE to protect and take care of YOU. If you take that away from HIM, he is not in it for long term. Just for the benefits! Just for the ride.

Think about it, he cannot see you past the benefits. THE REASON why he is giving you the I like to move slow speech is because he is not ready. If you DON'T want to get married and you love moving slow, OK! Go for it and see how long it works out. You better have a hell of a life though. You better make sure YOU put yourself first and he is not getting ALL of your attention or see if eventually you don't get put in the dog house.

Hey Jean...

Where you been sweetie...?? Oh im so happy you decided to join us in such an informative and inspirational conversation in which I know you really need right now...as I do too.

Up lift your spirits hun and let's both do better next time.

vanessa126 if it works for you and your happy and your man is happy then so be it but I am telling you when that man realizes that your controlling the relationship he will leave by cheating or just end up leaving the relationship at some point.

Men aren't that relationship handicapped THATS A MYTH that women are sold just like the MYTH that there aren't enough good men...that is BS ok, theres enough of everything and there is enough good men to go around for every woman, the women who believe its not feel they need to coax and manipulate a man instead of being with a man that naturally see's her worth and wants to give it to her without the games

If a woman has to coax and nudge and manipulate her man to go forward then you (no specific person on here) are creating this energy of I'm a JUST FOR NOW girl and that is how you will be treated, half assed until the real woman that lights a fire under his ass, lights his heart up and makes him feel like a complete man shows up this is why so many women that make there men lazy by giving too much, over functioning, manipulating and coaxing LOSE, and she loses because instead of admitting she doesn't know what she's doing and understanding how to inspire her man to give to her naturally without all the pushing, coaxing, nudgin and most like myself didn't know I had an option ends up doing the very thing that doesn't keep a man or make a relatonship balanced, she is struggling within the relationship, lying to herself and pretending she is content with this whuss of a man and telling herself at least he's with me and stuffing down the truth which causes more and more problems

To each her own, I don't have a problem with your way vanessa, if it works for you then thats all that matters

"You better make sure YOU put yourself first and he is not getting ALL of your attention or see if eventually you don't get put in the dog house"

LMAO!! Sorry but that dog house part is hilarious

and Vanessa I'm not directing my comments at you specifically, I say you a lot and i NEED to curb that because it comes off as if I'm talking about the specific person and for the most part I'm talking to women in general

"theres enough of everything and there is enough good men to go around for every woman, the women who believe its not feel they need to coax and manipulate a man instead of being with a man that naturally see's her worth and wants to give it to her without the games"

This is sooooo true.. The manipulation game is a deadly game. I hate it and it's a waist of time. It never ends until someone gets hurt

No Vanessa126 I am NOT referring ANY posts directly at YOU! I never do, some women that come to the boards and they read posts that hurts their ego and start finger pointing. LEO'S LOVE stronger personalities anyways. WE LOVE THE STRONGER side of other people.

I've been good Jean.... I put things on pause with the cancer till he can get on the same page as me. I realize now that I've been way too available and way to pushy. I've stepped back and I'm letting him decided if he wants something real or if he wants to continue to play childish games. We had a wonderful evening the other night but it's always nice temporarily and then he draws away again. I realized all of this when this Leo guy at church who has had interest in me started calling again two days ago...I realized that the Cancer man doesn't know it but there are men who are willing to step up to the plate and try and knock the ball out the park. He can get on board or forget about it. I've been pulled in every direction imaginable (my own stupidity) and I'm tired.

LK,

you are too funny... Over the past year or more that I've been on here I have been first portrayed as being a stupid bitch and then a confused bitch (this had some truth to it lol) and then I've enlightened a few and I've given good advice on things that I never take my word on...hahha.. now I feel like I have taken the role as the student...and CLASS IS IN SESSION!!

We all over time have loved each other and hated each other... like I once said in a previous post from about a year ago... "Why do we act like some bad ass kids who don't get along? Can't we all just get along?" then there were days like this when I'm so happy I decided to ask for advice cause I got exactly what I didn't know I was looking for....and that's THE TRUTH!!

LK,


I agree and he is sooooooo sooooooo uuuuhhhh soooo tasty looking!! I could eat him up. I'm getting hot just thinking about him and when I'm around him I feel like a school girl again...

aaaaahhhh and I get to see him tonight at church. He just called me about 30 min's ago. I rubbed his ego a little and I could hear him puuurrrring over the phone.

I have to tame him though cause he is majorly sexually attracted to me. I don't want this to be a sex thing and I'm NOT having sex with him!!

Let's see I have been called half cocked weirdo, bully, delusional, door mat think LK called me that years ago LOL, uh and FG just called me some names that I bust out laughing about yet we made up, I dunno it amuses me how we are on this site thats why I love coming here because none of it sticks, its like when your angry and not ready for truth it can make a person explode and lose there cool but then when its all over were all friends again, at least most of us are

tiki i like half chickened wierdo... that was impressive..

i have to say most of the names i've been called came from P-Angel...if you know our history we have not always been on good terms....but I respect her opinions...welll...now i do. I haven't seen her lately.

i haven't seen FG either...

This is just an observation...but almost all the advice and responses on this thread are women posters giving Capywife advice, none of the men.

While I think they are all GREAT advice and make a lot of sense, I have to say that just to remain objective -- we're only hearing ONE side of the story here. It's too bad we can't hear the "guys" side of this and really figure out what this Cancer guy is thinking or why he's acted/re-acted the way he has (directly from him). It might shed more light on the situation because it seems like Capywife doesn't have any idea what's going on in her Cancer guy's head at all...

One of the core problems between Capricorn and Cancers is the lack of understanding. Cancer says something and confuses the heck out of the Capricorn and the lack-of-communication (yes, Cappy's aren't so great at communicating their feelings) from the Caps frustrated the heck out of the Cancers.

It's nobody's fault -- they're just so different but can learn a great amount from each other.

ellidyr,

This is true but i have been very straight forward with the Cancer and I have told him exactly how I feel and where I want the relationship to go. I told him how I felt about him. I think time will be good for both of us. I just don't think we are on the same page.

Thank you Jean... I don't model anymore though. 3 kids make it almost impossible.

Capywife,

He's putting up walls cuz you are getting too close. That's why he reacted out of anger and accusing you of seeing other men more than him. Cancer guys always put up walls to keep their feelings safe. He's insecure you're "seeing" other guys and yet, he has real feelings for you. His vulnerability to you makes him feel insecure.

Let's analyze this from his perspective:

1) One possibility is that he's trying to decide if you're the one for him. He's not sure yet but he's figuring it out. However, you seeing other guys is making him feel pressure to commit to you. But he's not ready yet.

What he doesn't want is to commit to you for the wrong reasons. Committing to you because it will stop you from seeing other guys is not a very good reason. A good reason would be because he is in love with you or he really wants a serious relationship with you...not cuz it will buy him more time to "decide".

2) Another possibility is that he feels like he can't trust you cuz you're seeing other guys. What if he commits to you and then you decide to fall for one of the guys you're seeing? Cancer men are insecure -- unfortunately, it's one of their flaws (but they have plenty of good things too). Nobody's perfect -- You just gotta take the good with the bad.

3) All the ladies on this thread are right -- the Cancer guy doesn't know what he wants and doesn't deserve you or your time.

Anyways, just my 2 cents 🙂

Ellidyr,

Im not seeing other guys... I haven't been seeing anyone only him. The Leo called the other day for the first time in months. I have only been seeing him. No one else. I never said I was seeing other guys. I said I will start to NOW but not before.

Jean-

They are 1,2, and my daughter will be 6 on Nov. 7

Capywife,

But you mentioned this "Leo" to your Cancer guy in the past. It's now in his head -- you're seeing him. Anyways, as irrational as this Cancer may seem to be acting, I kind of understand why he's acting so emotionally.

I'm not taking any sides here or trying to say there's anything wrong with what you're doing. You're completely entitled to date whomever you want because you're not committed to him and he's the one being indecisive or resisting.

Caps are prideful -- you're trying to send the message to him that you can get plenty of other guys if you wanted BUT you just want him and he should feel lucky. But the message the Cancer gets is -- she's keeping her options open and I might get hurt if I give my heart to her.

NO he doesn't know about MR.Leo... i never told him

I don't remember ever telling him anything about Mr.Leo.... Did I? no I don't think so, I don't think i did.

"Let's analyze this from his perspective:"

Who cares why he's putting up walls, if he isn't emotionally healthy enough to be with a woman then thats his problem, women can't fix men PERIOD, total reassurance is a give and take kind of thing, this man clearly has issues with intimacy and to attempt to fix his issue is a recipe for disaster equaling to total investment on her part which keeps her hanging on hoping and expecting more which means heartache all the way, capywife is doing the right thing by giving him the space to decide to be in it and this means not pulling this pull away come here extreme everytime he feels threatened, she deserves that much from a man.

If she allows this man to pull in and out when he feels like it then she will never get off that dizzy emotional roller coaster ride, I'm sure there are multiple reasons why he feels threatened, I'm sure there are multiple reasons why he can't give her what she needs and wants in the relationship right now and his not giving is not her problem its his, the only person she needs to worry about is HERSELF.... she can stick around and HOPE he gives but thats not in her best interest to do that plus waiting for a man to step up and change is pretty miserable

His fear is HIS FEAR not hers, there are no guarantee's with love, he either do what he needs to do to keep her, date her until he figures it all out for himself and take the risk of losing her while he's figuring all out or commit to being in a relationshp and do the work it takes to maintain a loving relationship.

Great points ellidyr and very good insight

I'm sure capywife would date him along with others but if he can't stand being in line with the rest then yes he needs to distance himself until he can figure it all out but all the investing she's doing and getting nothing but head and heart ache is a NO NO any women not just capywife can be with a man like this but show me a woman with a guy like this and you will see the most anxious, miserable, unhappy woman on the planet, the whole treating her like a girlfriend when its convienant is classic, more man create these imaginary relationshps all the time and soon as she acts like the girlfriend he pushes her back into the friend box, talk about insanity.

tiki,

i couldn't agree with you more. i think the advice you have given along with all the other female posters have posted are great advice for capywife. i do not disagree with any of it...i'm just trying to offer a perspective from the guy's point of view (especially a Cancer guy's point of view).

Capywife, I remember you had posted this:

"maybe he needs to see that he isn't the only fish trying to get the bait and if you want it then u have to fight for it."

i thought maybe you had mentioned it to him in the past about the Leo guy...it was in one of your previous posts but if I misread that, I apologize.

No woman should be exclusive with a man that isn't matching up to what her dream relationship is...women who give ALL of themselves mind body and soul to a man that isn't matching up will always get hurt, you only become exclusive with a man that wants the same things you want and he's SHOWING you that he's about what you want and making you happy, it doesn't mean there will not be bumps in the relationship but you will have the security knowing that he will always be there to work it out and he will be the one pushing the relationship forward, you will feel safe, secure and loved when your with him and when your without him, meaning no matter were you are he is the last of your worries because he's a man you can depend on no matter what...there are way too many women falling into this imaginary relationshp trap, she's not getting her needs met but she sticks around hoping for it because there is no one else that seems to be that interested...thats the worst trap of them all because men are everywhere, lift up your head and look at whose looking at you, stop falling for these half assed men that treat you like a second class stepping stone, the good for girl now until HIS DREAM GIRL shows up...

"..and soon as she acts like the girlfriend he pushes her back into the friend box, talk about insanity"

wow, you really hit it right on the spot there tiki! what can we do...we're guys...can't live w/ us and can't live w/o us right? haha.. =)

mis-the good for now girl until HIS DREAM GIRL shows up...

"wow, you really hit it right on the spot there tiki! what can we do...we're guys...can't live w/ us and can't live w/o us right? haha.. =)"

LOL!! I love men, I really do but yeah homie don't play dat d:

tiki,

spoken like a true intellectual and an aquarian 🙂 you're making complete sense -- but unfortunately, relationships often involve intense emotions and emotions make no sense at all. emotions aren't logical most of the time.

i really am enjoying all your posts and i wish more people thought like you did. i think a lot of girls can learn a lot from your posts. keep them coming! 🙂

ditch the emotions, save them for a rainy day, if women understood how men use emotions they wouldn't be so quick to use them either, I'm not saying emotions are bad but women not all but some of us have to use discretion and self control with emotions...trouble trouble trouble, love them but I can't remember an emotion that got me what I wanted d:

emotions were fruitful, good and grand when I was a teenager without a care but things became much more complicated during adulthood, I was still carefree but I soon found myself living amongst many used up, difficult, selfish, jaded, scary men...

I love men all of them even the so called bad ones, I'm just in it to win it and I want the best, the greatest man out there or nothing at all d: guess that makes me jaded too

Well I saw Leo at church last night... He couldn't keep his eyes off of me and we shared a very nice hug after church. He was cheesing and blushing. He called me last night and we talked for hours like always. He said that we have awesome chemistry in every area: communication, spritually, and attraction. We were talking very heavy a few months ago and the conversations have always been deep, intellectual, and funny. He is so funny. We both are involved with the church and this weekend for our Fall Festival we are both working and he wants me to work in his booth with him. I didn't give him an answer though. Because of our chemistry he said that he already knows that after the first date he will want to take things further (the relationship not sex) cause we talk a lot at church and we know each other very well because we both work in the church.

But I keep reading that Leo's and Caps don't make such a great match? My girlfriend is a Leo and her man is a Cap and they have been together for 4 years. But I've read a lot of bad things about this match.

Also i wonder how Leo men are about dating women with kids from a previous relationship? I see how most cancers are ok with the idea and it doesnt bother them much. I know this is something that has a lot more to do with him then just his sun sign. Enlighten me...

Im playing it cool with the LEO though... no sex just great conversation.

My cancer still hasnt called yet...guess he chose the excape route instead. 😢

Capywife ding ding ding, this is a man that is interested, don't be afraid ok, just be open with your heart but you know not to GIVE HIM ALL of your heart until he has shown that he's someone that is in it to win it. Always keep your eyes open for that better man that isn't resistant and unwilling to please you, there is a man that wants what you wants and will give it to you gladly. Giving your all to resistent selfish men would not be in your best interest, recipe for heart break

use this time to really get to know what makes him tick, ask him what kind of woman he respects this (is a great attraction builder it lets him know you are doing the choosing and very selective which makes your status go up up up) he will tell you what kind of woman he will more than likely fall in love with and ask him about how his relationship is with his mom, this will also tell you if he's emotionally resistant or emotionally mature, meaning if he really loves women or is an undercover woman hater, yes they do exist lol, I had one and he was so resistent to any kind of emotional intimacy unless it was on his terms well you know he got the boot eventually once I understood why I was struggling with him, of course I didn't realize until way way after we begin to date seriously.

some leo men are good with kids, they are big kids themselves, my brother ADOPTED his first child, then went on to have 4 more of his own, good man ok, he's not perfect but he loves his kids, all of them.

This is what the courting process is pay attention!! Take notes and compare him with every other man that steps to you because there is a process from courting to marriage and your cancer aint it LOL! Sorry not to discourage but he's just not there with you YET and until he is then you have the right to choose the man that is less resistant and less high maintenance emotionally, HE WILL BE BACK, they all come back but if he's put off by your challenge for him to step up and be the better man then yeah let him keep chasing his own tail, as long as you get off that emotional roller coaster ride with him and stop investing in someone that clearly is resistant and confused about dating you, then you will be fine, doesn't mean you have to ignore him and be mean but you setting a strong boundary is YOUR FRIEND, it keeps him from taking you on this up and down roller coaster of confused emotions filled with hot and cold bahavior. If he wants to come around let him but you do the choosing

CapyWife,

OK, astrology I can admit will give you some basics on a general characteristics but I WON'T DEPEND on it for A REAL RELATIONSHIP!If you really want to know the truth, ALL of the relationships that astrology claim to have harmony and live together happily ARE not always actually that accurate.

You can really tell how most of the SCORPS and TAURUSES( I don't even have to call any names) come on the Cancer man boards stating they have this undeniable, pyschic understanding with each other but then he pulls away from them and leaves them lonely because of the feelings "she" the woman has deeply embedded within herself. He often leaves them for someone else! Or he is a married unavailable man or he is one who ignores them.

Another woman of a different astrology sun sign can come on these Cancer boards and describe a great relationship with a Cancer man and you can tell the same group of women become her "enemy" because she has success with him and they don't understand what is going wrong with "them" because astrology "claims" they are so compatible and they tend to not understand why their relationships are failing!

I wouldn't base it on astrology. Yes, it describes some traits in others but not based on ALL real relationships. I am a LEO and they state Leo's and Caps are not compatible. I have a strong life long connection with every CAP I have ever met. We click, I get along very well with the women but the men are challenging.

"a successful relationship has nothing to do with sun signs. zip. a successfull relationship comes from shared values"

Now I believe that. I believe that is what keeps a relationship stable. This is the same thing he said. He said he would never date a woman who wasn't involved with the church because he is at the church so much and he wouldn't want to be with someone who doesnt understand that the church comes first. I'm the same way. I spend most of my time volunteering and helping the youth.

LK, i'm learning. It's like i have to learn how to date all over again...seeing how i was doing it all wrong. I did tell him that I would work the booth with him for an hour and he seemed excited about it. I think that tomorrow night will really give us a chance to have fun together outside of sitting in service together.

"Capywife ding ding ding, this is a man that is interested, don't be afraid ok"

I'm afraid.. I am.