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Tell him the truth about how you're feeling.
I don't think I'm ready to respond yet 😢 and my feelings are mixed - anger, disappointed, annoyed.. all that stuff.

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Those are all negative emotions. If you were mentally ready to move on in three weeks and set up dates, I think you know how you feel.

Of course it's not going to be easy, and you can take a little time to clear your head so you can communicate effectively, but I think you know what you have to do.
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What do you want
I want:

- stop fighting

- healthy communication

- a long term plan with him if he wants a title (3-5 years, 10 years)

One of the reasons I think we're at a stalemate is because of the 3rd point. He's one of those, "you can plan..but there's no guarantees, things change". In my mind, that sounds like we'll go with the flow and roll with the punches.

Sorry, not doing that.
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What do you want
I want:

- stop fighting

- healthy communication

- a long term plan with him if he wants a title (3-5 years, 10 years)

One of the reasons I think we're at a stalemate is because of the 3rd point. He's one of those, "you can plan..but there's no guarantees, things change". In my mind, that sounds like we'll go with the flow and roll with the punches.

Sorry, not doing that.

What do you see in the plan for instance

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I want to save money with my partner to buy a place in the next 5 years, and figure out a way to work for myself/ourselves. Possibly think about semi retiring in 10-15 years.
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What do you want
I want:

- stop fighting

- healthy communication

- a long term plan with him if he wants a title (3-5 years, 10 years)

One of the reasons I think we're at a stalemate is because of the 3rd point. He's one of those, "you can plan..but there's no guarantees, things change". In my mind, that sounds like we'll go with the flow and roll with the punches.

Sorry, not doing that.
Most caps expect that, even my male cap friends. Planning is hard for them.
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Why is planning hard for them?? 😢

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Do you have cap or virgo placements?
No, I have very little earth and water I think.



Sun Sagittarius 3°01' Ascendant Aquarius 23°41'

Moon Leo 12°06' II Aries 19°59'

Mercury Sagittarius 17°29' III Taurus 22°17'

Venus Libra 17°43' IV Gemini 13°44'

Mars Libra 4°22' V Cancer 2°09'

Jupiter Sagittarius 17°45' VI Cancer 22°25'

Saturn Scorpio 10°17' VII Leo 23°41'

Uranus Sagittarius 8°59' VIII Libra 19°59'

Neptune Sagittarius 28°01' IX Scorpio 22°17'

Pluto Scorpio 0°46' Midheaven Sagittarius 13°44'

Lilith Aquarius 28°14' XI Capricorn 2°09'

Asc node Gemini 15°49' XII Capricorn 22°25'
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Posted by aquarius_beauty
Wait until your emotions are settled and you can think clearly. You don't want to re-ignite a fight with him right when he came back. Keep living your life. Go on those dates. Keep your mind off things. Make him work hard to be with you! Don't cave in so easily
Thank you for the sound advice.

I don't know how to make him work hard to be with me. Any suggestions?



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I feel like I've tried hard to "work" on things with him, and each time he's kept his spiteful resentful bullshit over the title thing. We'd be alright for a while and then fight again because of his snappish behaviour.

So I'm kind of done working on things with him because I keep putting myself out there and getting burned.

I want to see HIM make some suggestions and do some of that work.

How can I get that message across?
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You want to "plan" with someone yet you are uncomfortable defining your relationship. You want him to be certain about you, but you are uncertain about him. You feel taken for granted, he likely feels the same. Each of you is starting to resent the other behaviors you are both exhibiting.

This is a death spiral if I've ever seen one. Part of you is ready to move on- You are already testing the waters-- might as well jump in.

And, no we don't like fighting. But, like someone mentioned, it can be tolerated as long its not the same old shit.

Also, we are damn good at planning. Just cause we don't include you doesn't mean we aren't good at it. It means you aren't part of the plan.
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You want to "plan" with someone yet you are uncomfortable defining your relationship. You want him to be certain about you, but you are uncertain about him. You feel taken for granted, he likely feels the same. Each of you is starting to resent the other behaviors you are both exhibiting.

This is a death spiral if I've ever seen one. Part of you is ready to move on- You are already testing the waters-- might as well jump in.

And, no we don't like fighting. But, like someone mentioned, it can be tolerated as long its not the same old shit.

Also, we are damn good at planning. Just cause we don't include you doesn't mean we aren't good at it. It means you aren't part of the plan.
Spot on.

Yes, we are both resenting each and feel taken for granted. It's an ugly spiral and I want to stop it. It's not healthy for either one of us.

He's going through a mid life thing imo and his planning has froze up.
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Wait until your emotions are settled and you can think clearly. You don't want to re-ignite a fight with him right when he came back. Keep living your life. Go on those dates. Keep your mind off things. Make him work hard to be with you! Don't cave in so easily
Thank you for the sound advice.

I don't know how to make him work hard to be with me. Any suggestions?






Well when I mean work hard for you, I don't mean slave away. I mean have him pursue you and have him put in more work for you. Act interested with a bit of disinterested.

Let him win your affections. I would also spark a bit of jealousy in him. I wouldn't tell him about your dates but I would casually mention (if he asks or if it comes up in a conversation) that you're going out with friends or 'a friend'. Always remain general. If he asks what friend? Just say, 'a really good friend'. And change the topic. That way your subtle, not forceful (guys can smell that sh#t), and it gets him a bit ruffled up so he can try and win you back.

If you guys do end up dating again, take your time. Have fun. After you guys are comfortable to talk about being together, I would have a talk with him about the issues you guys had and how you guys should find ways to solve those issues/work around them. Compromise. Otherwise, your bound to end up in a vicious cycle.
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Thank you for the suggestions.

I think the first step is to stop going over to his place, spending the night and having sex!

If he wants to talk, we can meet somewhere.

However, with his message of "I'm here...if ever" he's kind of putting the ball in my court?
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You want to "plan" with someone yet you are uncomfortable defining your relationship. You want him to be certain about you, but you are uncertain about him. You feel taken for granted, he likely feels the same. Each of you is starting to resent the other behaviors you are both exhibiting.

This is a death spiral if I've ever seen one. Part of you is ready to move on- You are already testing the waters-- might as well jump in.

And, no we don't like fighting. But, like someone mentioned, it can be tolerated as long its not the same old shit.

Also, we are damn good at planning. Just cause we don't include you doesn't mean we aren't good at it. It means you aren't part of the plan.
Spot on.

Yes, we are both resenting each and feel taken for granted. It's an ugly spiral and I want to stop it. It's not healthy for either one of us.

He's going through a mid life thing imo and his planning has froze up.
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If you want it to stop, then it may be helpful to start asking yourself "why".

Like; Why do I want to be with this person?, Why do I want to make the relationship work? Why am I responding this way to his behavior? Why do I feel this way?

This doesn't absolve him of the things he has done. But, it may you help understand your role in this dynamic in a way that is hard to see as a participant. Hopefully, you will be able to pinpoint exactly what you want/ need and gain the confidence to both express that and go after it.
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Go on your dates! It will give you a chance to see from a larger angle if you truly want him Back or if you are able to find someone 10 times better. Give yourself to explore before going back to a never ending cycle, now if after those dates you still feel as if he's worth a shot then go for it!! But for him to leave for 3weeks then return once he's ready it's not fair to you to drop everything and just go back to him as if everything is okay!! It's not okay.. & now it's his turn to wait... & he might lose you for taking you for granted. Just my 2 cents.
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It sounds like you want something from him that he in incapable of giving. The plan to save, buy a house, work for yourselves sounds like the type of plans married couples make. This man can't even get a title and you want him to make those type of plans with you?

Also, it seems like he'd take a bit of the initiative when it comes to that type of thing. Idk, but I hope you are not wasting your time.
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Wait until your emotions are settled and you can think clearly. You don't want to re-ignite a fight with him right when he came back. Keep living your life. Go on those dates. Keep your mind off things. Make him work hard to be with you! Don't cave in so easily
Thank you for the sound advice.

I don't know how to make him work hard to be with me. Any suggestions?






Well when I mean work hard for you, I don't mean slave away. I mean have him pursue you and have him put in more work for you. Act interested with a bit of disinterested.

Let him win your affections. I would also spark a bit of jealousy in him. I wouldn't tell him about your dates but I would casually mention (if he asks or if it comes up in a conversation) that you're going out with friends or 'a friend'. Always remain general. If he asks what friend? Just say, 'a really good friend'. And change the topic. That way your subtle, not forceful (guys can smell that sh#t), and it gets him a bit ruffled up so he can try and win you back.

If you guys do end up dating again, take your time. Have fun. After you guys are comfortable to talk about being together, I would have a talk with him about the issues you guys had and how you guys should find ways to solve those issues/work around them. Compromise. Otherwise, your bound to end up in a vicious cycle.
Thank you for the suggestions.

I think the first step is to stop going over to his place, spending the night and having sex!

If he wants to talk, we can meet somewhere.

However, with his message of "I'm here...if ever" he's kind of putting the ball in my court?
Yes! Don't give him sex. At least not for now. If you wish to see him make sure its in public places or in a group date setting so you won't be tempted.

"I'm here...if ever" I hate when guys wash off their hands by saying, hey! Im leaving it up to you to decide. NO! you take the lead and I'll decide if I wish to follow. Ugh ... anyway I think the dating scene is a lot different than what I am accustomed to 10 years ago. I think what you need to do is treat him as a friend. Best advice I got was "treat him like he was your gay best friend". It leaves all the tension behind and it helps you relax and not stress. I know it's not easy, trust me. But you can do it. If not just have your guard up. Don't let him sweet talk you into doing anything you don't want to. Fight and resist the urge to fall back into his arms.
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How do I throw the ball back in his court? I don't want to take the lead on this again.
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It sounds like you want something from him that he in incapable of giving. The plan to save, buy a house, work for yourselves sounds like the type of plans married couples make. This man can't even get a title and you want him to make those type of plans with you?

Also, it seems like he'd take a bit of the initiative when it comes to that type of thing. Idk, but I hope you are not wasting your time.
I want to know what his plan is in general and he can't tell me right now so it's like we're at a standstill. I don't doubt that he wants to be with me,..but then what?
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Is it the same with all these fellows? Will they come back only when you've moved on, after playing indifferent when you care for them and love them? And even when they do come back, it's always back to the old tricks. "No title or label. Go with the flow. I'm going be diplomatic, confusing, and give you mixed signals!"

Tired of watching the same old play repeating itself. In my last mail, the one in which I wrote to him that we will break up, I'd made everything clear. That I hate the way he treats me and I can't stay with him for reasons such as his arrogance, no proper communication, and no label thing, asking if he was using me as a boost for his ego. (that honest, blunt mail did have a strong effect on him).

Maybe you could try something similar - act 'friendly' showing no romantic feelings. Two can play the old game of keeping the other confused. Act aloof. Act cool. Be on and off. Yes, act like you don't care and be patient till he shows strong signs of wanting you back.

At that point, tell him that you won't settle for a 'go with the flow' thingy with anyone. Good luck!
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of course, if you choose to leave, be prepared for never getting back together. when your heart is free, bigger and better things await, from him or not.









and btw, some caps hate fighting w/ their loved ones. there is definitely a breaking point for me, a point of no return. i'm an effective communicator and i offer and need flexibility and understanding in relationship. i don't deal well when discussion turns ugly when the other person does not know how to or unwilling to communicate without fighitng. it's usually the beginning of an end.
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Is it the same with all these fellows? Will they come back only when you've moved on, after playing indifferent when you care for them and love them? And even when they do come back, it's always back to the old tricks. "No title or label. Go with the flow. I'm going be diplomatic, confusing, and give you mixed signals!"

Tired of watching the same old play repeating itself. In my last mail, the one in which I wrote to him that we will break up, I'd made everything clear. That I hate the way he treats me and I can't stay with him for reasons such as his arrogance, no proper communication, and no label thing, asking if he was using me as a boost for his ego. (that honest, blunt mail did have a strong effect on him).

Maybe you could try something similar - act 'friendly' showing no romantic feelings. Two can play the old game of keeping the other confused. Act aloof. Act cool. Be on and off. Yes, act like you don't care and be patient till he shows strong signs of wanting you back.

At that point, tell him that you won't settle for a 'go with the flow' thingy with anyone. Good luck!
It is a hard thing for a cap to put their ego to the side. Even for a few seconds. The only way that happens is if they really like you. They have to have love for you.

Only then will they take notice if you do what your saying above.

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Hey, BAdBoy, thanks for the response. Yes, I understand. It's kinda similar with us Leos, too. Now that's what is confusing me!

Why would he keep his ego aside (which I understand is quite painful for him) and come back to apologise if he didn't love me? Why would he put in the efforts of posting poems for me on his blog knowing I like them now and then if he really doesn't care?

But when I confront, he seems to lose all his guts, wear his stonewall around him and acts cold or indifferent? Why would he still not want a label if he loves me? Confusing.

I'm planning to move on. But my instincts tell me that he'll be back when I've totally stopped thinking of him, when I expect it the least.

When that happens, what must I do, if what I've suggested here isn't the right thing? Help, please?
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He did all the chasing and he is the one that wants the title. Until about a year ago, I said ok, let's try to strengthen our relationship, communication etc. I said i do think we should try at some point to be bf/gf if we can stop fighting over stupid crap.

Seemed like when I got more serious, he didn't know how to actually do the relationship building.

I want him to make suggestions on the that. I'm all out of them at this point.
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He did all the chasing and he is the one that wants the title. Until about a year ago, I said ok, let's try to strengthen our relationship, communication etc. I said i do think we should try at some point to be bf/gf if we can stop fighting over stupid crap.

Seemed like when I got more serious, he didn't know how to actually do the relationship building.

I want him to make suggestions on the that. I'm all out of them at this point.
If he really wants to come back then he needs to realize that a large portion of your happiness and security is being in a monogamous relationship that is clearly defined. If he really loves you then he will WANT to call you his girlfriend and you name him boyfriend, if only too make someone he loves happy.

If his dis comfort with that outweighs his 'love' for you then there is a big incompatibility that no amount of poems and love letters from him is going to change.
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He did all the chasing and he is the one that wants the title. Until about a year ago, I said ok, let's try to strengthen our relationship, communication etc. I said i do think we should try at some point to be bf/gf if we can stop fighting over stupid crap.

Seemed like when I got more serious, he didn't know how to actually do the relationship building.

I want him to make suggestions on the that. I'm all out of them at this point.
If he really wants to come back then he needs to realize that a large portion of your happiness and security is being in a monogamous relationship that is clearly defined. If he really loves you then he will WANT to call you his girlfriend and you name him boyfriend, if only too make someone he loves happy.

If his dis comfort with that outweighs his 'love' for you then there is a big incompatibility that no amount of poems and love letters from him is going to change.
It's her that won't make it official. The leo is the one with poems, etc
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SunMoonStars you have never sounded like you are into him. if he is not a man you feel worthy enough to commit to without a long list of things you put on his to-change-list, why not take this opportunity to help him let you go? tell him once and for all that this is it. it may hurt him short term but he deserves to have a chance to find someone who actually appreciates him and wants to be with him.

Do the right thing. Set him free.

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Their main tool is arguing. They love it.

What's love / relationship with out an argument, as one told me.
Cap women need someone who can respectfully put them in their place. If I'm partnered with a weak person, I'll inadvertently steamroll them. We're independent and headstrong. If you won't take the reins, we will and we'll silently judge you and lose respect for you in the process.
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Exactly. Where are they Cheeky?

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Their main tool is arguing. They love it.

What's love / relationship with out an argument, as one told me.
Cap women need someone who can respectfully put them in their place. If I'm partnered with a weak person, I'll inadvertently steamroll them. We're independent and headstrong. If you won't take the reins, we will and we'll silently judge you and lose respect for you in the process.



Exactly. Where are they Cheeky?


If the rest are anything like mine? Where and when you least expect it. ?
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That's so cute, I love how happy he makes you. ☺️

I didn't know Virgo men were good at putting us in our place like that.

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Their main tool is arguing. They love it.

What's love / relationship with out an argument, as one told me.
Cap women need someone who can respectfully put them in their place. If I'm partnered with a weak person, I'll inadvertently steamroll them. We're independent and headstrong. If you won't take the reins, we will and we'll silently judge you and lose respect for you in the process.



Exactly. Where are they Cheeky?


If the rest are anything like mine? Where and when you least expect it. ?



That's so cute, I love how happy he makes you. ☺️

I didn't know Virgo men were good at putting us in our place like that.


Ya know, it's just never been a power struggle kinda deal. Zero games. He leads by example and I'd follow him anywhere.
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Just the way things should be, love it.

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SunMoonStars you have never sounded like you are into him. if he is not a man you feel worthy enough to commit to without a long list of things you put on his to-change-list, why not take this opportunity to help him let you go? tell him once and for all that this is it. it may hurt him short term but he deserves to have a chance to find someone who actually appreciates him and wants to be with him.

Do the right thing. Set him free.





Yes.
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2 messages I want to get across are:

- I'm out of suggestions cause mine aren't working so if he wants to make this work, he'll have to come up with them.

- If he wants my time, he'll have to pursue me. I'm not making it easy for him anymore by initiating anything.
I can't speak for all Caps, but its possible he may fall back. Maybe its because I'm a female, idk, but if it's left up to me to lead a relationship that's already at a stagnant point, then it won't happen. He could be different, but idk

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2 messages I want to get across are:

- I'm out of suggestions cause mine aren't working so if he wants to make this work, he'll have to come up with them.

- If he wants my time, he'll have to pursue me. I'm not making it easy for him anymore by initiating anything.
I can't speak for all Caps, but its possible he may fall back. Maybe its because I'm a female, idk, but if it's left up to me to lead a relationship that's already at a stagnant point, then it won't happen. He could be different, but idk

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It's possible that he just sucks at relationships. Venus in Pisces is apparently more in love with the fantasy and crashes when faced with the day to day tasks of what it's like to be with someone.

A number of my guy friends have told me men are so into the "chase/hunt" part...but once they get the girl, they're stumped on how to actually build a healthy relationship!

This Cap comes from a dysfunctional family and not surprisingly his dating history is as well.



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He did all the chasing and he is the one that wants the title. Until about a year ago, I said ok, let's try to strengthen our relationship, communication etc. I said i do think we should try at some point to be bf/gf if we can stop fighting over stupid crap.

Seemed like when I got more serious, he didn't know how to actually do the relationship building.

I want him to make suggestions on the that. I'm all out of them at this point.
If he really wants to come back then he needs to realize that a large portion of your happiness and security is being in a monogamous relationship that is clearly defined. If he really loves you then he will WANT to call you his girlfriend and you name him boyfriend, if only too make someone he loves happy.

If his dis comfort with that outweighs his 'love' for you then there is a big incompatibility that no amount of poems and love letters from him is going to change.
It's her that won't make it official. The leo is the one with poems, etc
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Lol, LadyNeptune, I'll take the 'incompatibility that poems can't change' thingy. Guess you're right there.
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If you wana be my bf - you need to step up and take me on a hot date!
Haha, I think he would if I said that! The bf title is what he wants.


What?

You are the one holding the title back?

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Yes, I've always been the one to hold back the title. I don't think we're there yet.
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