I'm just not sure how to love him anymore

It's not confirmed, but my Cap bf's doctor are running lots of test to see if he has cancer. I know this is a hard time for him and I'm trying so hard to be there for him, but he keeps pushing me away.

He is VERY distant, pessimistic and now he's not even hopeful about our relationship anymore. He says he felt I wasn't listening to him well enough once when he was trying to tell me something and now he's not sure about us. I apologized till I was blue in the face! He's still acting like he's sore over it. This week I reached out to him and we talked. I text him on morning that I wanted us to get back on track and that I would shut everything down this weekend just so we could talk. He responded 12 hours later that he's looking forward to it because he wants to start over again. That was 2 days ago, and he hasn't CALLED to chat. I feel like I'm losing him. Still, I try to cheer him up, think of fun things for us to so to get his mind off things, I send him texts messages letting him know I'm thinking about him during the day and hope he's feeling OK, I tell him I love him and that I'm here for him, but he reads the text and won't even say thanks.

I try not to let it bother me. I know his health is first and that he's scared. My heart breaks for him and all i want to do is hold him and try to make it better, but I don't know if I should keep trying to stay with a man that makes me feel like he doesn't want me around. If I don't call he says I don't love him enough to check on him, if I do he ignores me.

What should I do?

I'm not thinking of myself. If I was I would have left by now.

I'm not putting anything above his health issue. I just don't want him to shut me out when I know he needs me to be there, and I am trying my best to be there.

WOW... OK. You call me a jerk? Really? WOW!

If I were in his shoes, I would push you away. Break it off with you. Because, I wouldn't want you feeling sorry for me and feeling like you had to stay. I wouldn't want to put you through the cancer and treatment and possible death. It would hurt me, but I would break it off because I would feel its not fair to you to have to go through all that.

But if you persisted on being there for me, I would eventually let you and be grateful for it. 🙂

Just saying.

It's obvious that none of you are understanding what I'm saying. I didn't care what calamity or tragedy came along, I plann to stay by his side. I had no intentions of leaving him even if it was to the death. What I think ALL of you are missing is that I can't do any of that if he will not open the door and let me be there. I think I have said that repeatedly, and I thinn that I have tried to adequately express to you how much I do love him and am concerned for him.

Yes I did read the advice from the old post, but there are new things that traspired.

This was the WRONG place to come for any kind of quality advice. I am glad that I have other friends to talk to. Not ONE of them EVER called me selfish, childish or immature. Not one of them accused me of making this whole thing about me or not being ready to be there for him. Not one of them was as classless as Ellessque, who from her responses obviously can't read words with comprehension, and apparently has no ability to empathize with anyone pain but her own, but I'm sure she's doing the best her pea brain can do.

Like I said, coming here was a colossal mistake, not because you think I'm not hearing what everyone is saying, but for some of you, the quality of your answers is complete bull. What's funny is that if you were in my shoes, as heartless as you've been, I can't imagine that you would even have the capacity to do half of what you've asked me. Am I going to be able to read his mind if he wont't talk, NO I can't. I am only asking how you would approach a Capricorn if they are being hard to reach, and Ellessque silly self couldn't even do that! So whose the jerk? People like here can always dish it out but they can never take it.

Anyway, I'm out.

I will see if the webmaster will let me delete my post and my profiles. Things will probably look up for us it I would stop coming to strangers for advice and just go with what I feel is right inside.

Yes, run away when called out for your arrogance. That's what all the hip people do.

Posted by Sunrays
Peddle back.....calm down.
get things in perspective....yours is WAYYYYY OFF right now.
he does not OWE you a thing, even if you think he does.
Dont PUSH and pressure.
Accept that things are changing.
Let the change happen naturally.
"IF" you manage to drop your ego reactions then you will find a way to make the changes that is required to handle this situation with him and maybe even improve the strength of your relationship.

Best of luck.

Thank you Sunrays.

I am sorry that I made it appear that I am belittling his illness. I sincerely didn't mean for it to come across that way, I know this is extremely serious. Honestly, my ego is level to the floor right now; I am NOT just being full of myself. I will gladly keep carring the weight, but if you are saying don't ever ask him for anything right now, let him treat you any kind of way, don't expect him to try at all, then no, that will be something to which we will never agree.

I will find a way to accept our change and let things happen naturally.

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Posted by CutieGirl
It's obvious that none of you are understanding what I'm saying. I didn't care what calamity or tragedy came along, I plann to stay by his side. I had no intentions of leaving him even if it was to the death. What I think ALL of you are missing is that I can't do any of that if he will not open the door and let me be there. I think I have said that repeatedly, and I thinn that I have tried to adequately express to you how much I do love him and am concerned for him.

I will not doing any name calling.

I think the reason he does not want to involve you is because he doesn't want you to be dragged down with him in this mess, because he loves you. It's NOT that he doesn't want your company. He doesn't want to see you sad or worried for him. It will hurt him even more.

I know what it feels like to be ignored by a Capricorn, when I'm trying to help and support. I am being ignored a constant basis by one right now. But I think the method IS NOT going up to them asking "WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME?" or "WHY ARE YOU PUSHING ME AWAY?".

It's not "If you don't stop pushing me away, I'm not going to come back." either, because you will just prove to him that pushing you away was a correct choice.

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Whew... Thank so much for that. I was just about to leave this forum for good. It's nice to finally connect with someone who knows exactly what it feels like. Great words of advice. I am guilty of saying that to him but I will not use those words anymore and I will not make it appear that I am taking that position. I had forgotten sometimes the wisest thing for a woman to do is just be quiet. I understand that his recovery is the most important thing right now.

Thanks to you also Sunrays - I'm sorry it's hard to see what I'm trying to say. I've never wanted to leave, but what I'm saying to you is that sometimes it feels like he's putting his foot in my back and kicking me out the door just for trying to support him. That is NOT an OK thing to do to someone that loves you, no matter how down you are. How would you feel if you brought me a meal and even though you weren't doing it to get a thank you, I threw the plate back at you, all because I'm sick! ou have to admit, you'd probably would think: well, I was just trying to feed you, I'll feed you again

because I love you, but geez, you didn't have to throw the plate at me.

When I say "carry the weight", I'm not saying I carrying cancer, I meant that I would do whatever, whenever for him to support him through this, I would not ask him to do anything but communicate with me. I don't think that's too much to ask. It is difficult to know what to do sometimes: stay in the house or leave, cook or get take out, call or not bother him. I would do it all, whatever he needed without stopping because I do love him so much. I am striving to figure out the magic formula. I am trying to learn how to stay as close to him as I can while giving him all the space he needs.

Anyway, I hope this sheds some light.

Thanks so much!!!! I'll do exactly as you've said (including ignoring the insults).

Your answer (like all the others) made so much sense and offer such grace to the hearer. I think I have a better perspective on what to do and how to go about it. Sometimes wisdom is just being quiet and standing still. I can't thank you enough!

You too!!!!

lol @ Elle....

maybe if he installs a phone in the bath room he can call her from there?

As a Cap who just had a biopsy done this week and finds out the results in a few days...

I dont talk much about what 'may be' down the road with my virgo partner. I will face it when/if it comes. Any feelings I have I keep to myself and deal with it alone. I will cry alone, get angry alone, deal with it..alone. I won't take/drag my partner down the abyss with me...

I know he will be there for me when I need him to be. And that is what u need to be able to do..on his terms not on yours.

Posted by capbaby
As a Cap who just had a biopsy done this week and finds out the results in a few days...

I dont talk much about what 'may be' down the road with my virgo partner. I will face it when/if it comes. Any feelings I have I keep to myself and deal with it alone. I will cry alone, get angry alone, deal with it..alone. I won't take/drag my partner down the abyss with me...

I know he will be there for me when I need him to be. And that is what u need to be able to do..on his terms not on yours.

Thanks Capbaby,

I pray and hope all goes well with your test results and that you come out of this OK. I'm glad you have a partner that stands with you.

Posted by BullGem
Going over her other threads, I realised something.

She only responds postivitely, with calm and 'grace' when she is basically 'sweet talked'. She seems incapable of seeing the 'wisdom' underneath the insults and the harsg criticism.

It's strangely similar to a parent trying to explain something to their child; something they have to do or something they may not particularly want to hear. I'm sure plenty of you have seen it happen, and have done it yourselves. The parent would have to lower him/herself physicall and mentally for the point to get across. There might be the offer of a reward for the child's good behavior...but basically, being cajoled like that is what ultimately gets the child to sheepishly nod along. 😛

I learned a long time ago that hurting people, people with truly poor self images of themselves, people that can't look past their own dirty ass, try their best to hurt people the most. When karma hits them, they can't even take their own stupid advice.

I'll say this and then I will not keep responding to those who bring nothing but negativity and hateration to this post: I can take tough talk, I can handle being told I am wrong and I need to reconsider somethings, but disrespect pisses me off! I didn't disrespect your dumb asses, so don't you disrespect me! If you can't take it, DO NOT dish it out! You'll find out real quick what a "Non-Factor" you are.

You accused me of responding best to sweet talk and "being incapable of seeing the "wisdom" underneath the insult—" .... WTF—!!!? What "wisdom" is it to call someone a jerk? How would you like it if I called you a jerk? How much of my "wisdom" would you listen to? Or should I just listen to that bull because that's the best way YOU know how to effectively communicate? Hell no!

I invite any of you that feel it is necessary to talk to me this way, esp Elle, to just leave. When you see my name, keep stepping! People such as yourselves offer absolutely no quality feedback; you're only upset because you think I'm doing this for some kind of selfish motivation and if you actually took the time to read the post, you'd see that you're dead wrong. I give respect to whom it is due but anyone that talks to me out of their ass like that gets no respect from me.

So again, in case you didn't hear it the first time, if you can't stand to see my post, if you feel you have to call me out of my name, you can pack your raggedy sh*t and LEAVE! You don't really get it anyway, you've shown me that you don't have the capacity to add to the solution, so save yourself the embarrassment of looking like a colossal low-class idiot and just don't respond.

I haven't read all this really BUT. How would you feel if possibly given a death sentence? Your first thought would not to be playful nor easily distracted. You cannot shake someone out of this. It is not a *funk* or a *passing mood* it is quite possibly the end of life. At the very least a complete change of it. A battle with doctors, hospitals, chemotherapy, pills. Vomiting, weakness, loss of hair in some instances. While the *cure* rages in you killing good along with bad.
All you can do is stand there. Solid and true. Be there to hold a hand and listen to them rage against fate. To go through with them all the ups and downs and weather the storms of verbal abuse; and yes there will be some. The anger is not directed at someone really, it is against life itself and the vicious joke played upon oneself.
Nay, this is something very serious. A true test of ones emotional fortitude and understanding. If you cannot be a true woman and stand by him in everything, then do not assume the mantle as such.
If you cannot be sure of love in the face of adversity, then do not call it love. Adversity strengthens bonds, not weakens them.

Posted by venusianbull
I haven't read all this really BUT. How would you feel if possibly given a death sentence? Your first thought would not to be playful nor easily distracted. You cannot shake someone out of this. It is not a *funk* or a *passing mood* it is quite possibly the end of life. At the very least a complete change of it. A battle with doctors, hospitals, chemotherapy, pills. Vomiting, weakness, loss of hair in some instances. While the *cure* rages in you killing good along with bad.
All you can do is stand there. Solid and true. Be there to hold a hand and listen to them rage against fate. To go through with them all the ups and downs and weather the storms of verbal abuse; and yes there will be some. The anger is not directed at someone really, it is against life itself and the vicious joke played upon oneself.
Nay, this is something very serious. A true test of ones emotional fortitude and understanding. If you cannot be a true woman and stand by him in everything, then do not assume the mantle as such.
If you cannot be sure of love in the face of adversity, then do not call it love. Adversity strengthens bonds, not weakens them.

I agree 100%

Posted by venusianbull
I haven't read all this really BUT. How would you feel if possibly given a death sentence? Your first thought would not to be playful nor easily distracted. You cannot shake someone out of this. It is not a *funk* or a *passing mood* it is quite possibly the end of life. At the very least a complete change of it. A battle with doctors, hospitals, chemotherapy, pills. Vomiting, weakness, loss of hair in some instances. While the *cure* rages in you killing good along with bad.
All you can do is stand there. Solid and true. Be there to hold a hand and listen to them rage against fate. To go through with them all the ups and downs and weather the storms of verbal abuse; and yes there will be some. The anger is not directed at someone really, it is against life itself and the vicious joke played upon oneself.
Nay, this is something very serious. A true test of ones emotional fortitude and understanding. If you cannot be a true woman and stand by him in everything, then do not assume the mantle as such.
If you cannot be sure of love in the face of adversity, then do not call it love. Adversity strengthens bonds, not weakens them.

This!

Posted by WoundedLeo

Posted by EusiveSoulll

Thanx WL..that's exactly what I've been saying from the get go

*le sigh*

*waves at WL* 😄

Thanks for reading my post Elusive. At least you did. Looks like it went completely past the OP.

I'm not even normally so verbose answering people's posts and yet this time I took the time to do so, sharing personal experience to boot, just to be totally and completely ignored....

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Ok...you see how you just felt when you took the time to reach out to me, more than once, you opened your heart and shared your personal experience in an effort to help? And you see how you felt a bit overlooked when I didn't acknowledge your efforts? Would I be in order to say you were being selfish to expect me to at least say thank you?

This is how I feel with my Cap. I wouldn't call you being selfish, I would say you are human.

The fact is that I read your post several times. I am extremely grateful that you pushed pass all the negative vibes Elles started and still tried to help. I thought every word you said was profound and full of wisdom, so if you thought I was ignoring you, please accept my apologizes, I never ignored your post - not for one second. Thank you for what you said, I will take it to heart.

Posted by koi
Hi Cutie, I actually signed up to this forum just so I could answer your post.

Like 3588PISCES said, what I see first and foremost is that you are trying. Perhaps you're not getting it right just yet. But you obviously care and mean well. Illness is something that is difficult to deal with for everybody. For the patients and for those around them. I've been in situations where I've had close ones going through sometimes serious medical problems and also experienced times when I was ill myself.

Illness makes people scared, and when people are scared, we don't all react the same I guess. My illness went on for quite a bit and in that period, it happened that loved ones acted clumsily and brusquely towards me (in my view). I won't lie and pretend that didn't hurt, in addition to the physical pain. I thought this must mean they didn't truly love me. At other times, these same people showered me with so much care, and this on days I know I was the one acting out of line. I cannot deny my illness was tough on the people closest to me.

One thing I came to understand is that life, especially with long illnesses, goes on (thank God!). My parents, no matter the situation, will still be hot-tempered and lively fire signs 🙂. I'll get annoyingly sappy at the worst possible moment for small reasons because I'm (too)watery ^^". And your Cap will probably close down even more if he has a tendency to close down. And you will seek communication like crazy because that's you. Illness exacerbates everything.

It might help to remember that? Even though you're Pisces, maybe try not to act on emotion just now. You may feel he's not allowing you to be of help and you want to help so much, that's why you're pushing it. But perhaps the best way to help just now is to focus on not over-reacting in any way and to gently...just be there. His world must seem so unstable right now, and from what I know of caps, that's especially terrifying for them. It sounds like he's trying to be strong and not break down. The more stable and calm and together you act, the more likely it is he can reach out in his own time. Good luck.

Koi THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I'M JUST NOW READING YOUR BEAUTIFUL POST! THANK YOU! I am working on being as anti-pushy as possible! LOL
And 3588PISCES - you have been a true friend to me through this whole thing! I can't say thank you enough! I can't tell you ho

how much your words of encouragement, tough love and just "good sense" advice have helped me these last few days. I appreciate you Lady!

Posted by ellessque

Posted by CutieGirl

Posted by venusianbull
I haven't read all this really BUT. How would you feel if possibly given a death sentence? Your first thought would not to be playful nor easily distracted. You cannot shake someone out of this. It is not a *funk* or a *passing mood* it is quite possibly the end of life. At the very least a complete change of it. A battle with doctors, hospitals, chemotherapy, pills. Vomiting, weakness, loss of hair in some instances. While the *cure* rages in you killing good along with bad.
All you can do is stand there. Solid and true. Be there to hold a hand and listen to them rage against fate. To go through with them all the ups and downs and weather the storms of verbal abuse; and yes there will be some. The anger is not directed at someone really, it is against life itself and the vicious joke played upon oneself.
Nay, this is something very serious. A true test of ones emotional fortitude and understanding. If you cannot be a true woman and stand by him in everything, then do not assume the mantle as such.
If you cannot be sure of love in the face of adversity, then do not call it love. Adversity strengthens bonds, not weakens them.

I agree 100%

then ffs, stop your self pity part and DO IT already.
right now, you are being as toxic to him as cancer is.

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No Ellessque - YOU ARE BEING AS TOXIC AS HIS CANCER. And I thought I made it clear that you were free to leave my post. In fact I think it would be best if you did and never came back. You are NOT, and never have, really tried to help! Thank you for the healthy dose of disrespect that you thought was true "wisdom", but I just don't have the time to be concerned with people like you right now.

Ha! I'm actually right on the cusp. Feb 19th. Lawd, it can really sucks sometimes! Pisces one day, Aquarius another. One is soft and the other is hard. They are always fighting! LOL

HERE'S THE UPDATE.
He has a few more test to take this week. Because of the kinds of test the doctor is ordering, it's looking more and more like it is NOT cancer. His fingers are crossed, but I am secretly praying in the background that God give him strength and courage...and hope.

At this very moment he is lying in bed taking a nap - snoring away! LOL. He took me to breakfast this morning and we are going to catch a movie later on today. I'm glad he's here - I miss him a lot. He's not too touchy feely yet, but I think he's trying to slooooowly come around.

I'm learning the balance. Thank you guys for keeping me from jumping off the ledge!

I'll let you know what happens in the days to come.

Posted by 3588PISCES
CutieGirl what is your capricorn's moon?

I am just curious & may have something to share with you. 🙂

[scratching my head-squinting my forehead] - You know 3588Pisces, I honestly don't know. I have NO idea! ROTFLMBO

I'd be interested to know, but I don't know how to find out. Any suggestions?

OH - HERE'S THE LATEST UPDATE

We had a long heart to heart talk after his nap and I think it was that honest conversation that allowed us to really reconnect again. With lots of cuddling and butterfly kisses, we remembered how much we really DO love each other.

The best part is that he is finally FINALLY letting me go with him to the doctor!!! Today he will have an ultrasound and he mentioned that he feels he needs to emotionally prepare himself so I told him I wasn't trying to push, but I can go with him. I'm off all day today and it would be no problem. They need to see if the lump on his kidney is solid mass or a cyst filled with fluid. He said OK, and I almost cried. LOL So happy I can be there for him!

What's crazy is that after his storm quiets down, most of the time he comes back and thanks me for breaking through his wall. SMH - Oh well...

Thanks again everyone for the love and support!!!

Posted by R24
Find the location/time he was born then go here: http://what-is-astrology.com/natal-chart-calculator.html<BR>
If you don't know the time of birth, calculate twice for AM and PM times to see if they are still the same. If not the same, then you need the time of birth to find the right moon sign. But without the time/location the rising sign will be wrong....

OK - THANKS! I'll find out!

Ok - This is what it says.

Monday 12 November, 02:57 PM UT

Sun 20??38' Scorpio
Moon 2??21' Scorpio
Mercury 1??45' –? Sagittarius
Venus 18??23' Libra
Mars 26??37' Sagittarius
Jupiter 13??57' –? Gemini
Saturn 4??32' Scorpio
Uranus 5??00' –? Aries
Neptune 0??22' Pisces
Pluto 7??43' Capricorn
Chiron 5??28' –? Pisces
True Node 26??04' –? Scorpio
True Lilith 3??15' –? Gemini

Moon Phase
Waning Moon, 2.96%
Waning Crescent

No - that was the date that the chart was prepared.

The one you saw was mine for DOB 02/19/71.

HERE'S HIS: DOB - 12/28/59

Sun 20??38' Scorpio
Moon 2??26' Scorpio
Mercury 1??45' –? Sagittarius
Venus 18??23' Libra
Mars 26??38' Sagittarius
Jupiter 13??57' –? Gemini
Saturn 4??32' Scorpio
Uranus 5??00' –? Aries
Neptune 0??22' Pisces
Pluto 7??43' Capricorn
Chiron 5??28' –? Pisces
True Node 26??04' –? Scorpio
True Lilith 3??15' –? Gemini

Moon Phase
Waning Moon, 2.94%
Waning Crescent

Sorry for the confusion!

FYI - I had to just go ahead and block Elless.

Even after asking her twice to leave my post with her negativity, she continues to come back for the sole purpose of being rude and disrespectful.

Her comments have been removed.

What is going on? Elle blocked, lawrd give me strength.

Lemme go back and read what's going on.

I'm not thinking it's the illness, to some degree it is but I'm thinking it's the 12 year age gap, you are at an age were life is so different from a man his age, I'm not sure why you're with this man but I think you should definitely do some soul searching.

I mean do you want to get married and have babies some day? Do you want to do things that women your age do like dating and focusing on developing and maturing yourself and your own life?

I'm just curious about what's keeping you in the relationship, it seems when he's feeding you affection you seem at peace but when he's wrapped up in his illness/self you fall apart. Exactly what do you want and have you considered he may not be able to nurture the relationship 50% --not even 15% --more like 1 to 5 percent range and are you okay with that?

Also take into consideration we are not your friends, your friends are not going to be this candid and forthcoming with harsh realities about your situation, they are mostly going to support you and affirm your feelings but here people won't bullshit you too much, some will but most of the people here are really cool and will force you to look outside of your comfort zone.

Posted by tiki33
I'm not thinking it's the illness, to some degree it is but I'm thinking it's the 12 year age gap, you are at an age were life is so different from a man his age, I'm not sure why you're with this man but I think you should definitely do some soul searching.

I mean do you want to get married and have babies some day? Do you want to do things that women your age do like dating and focusing on developing and maturing yourself and your own life?

I'm just curious about what's keeping you in the relationship, it seems when he's feeding you affection you seem at peace but when he's wrapped up in his illness/self you fall apart. Exactly what do you want and have you considered he may not be able to nurture the relationship 50% --not even 15% --more like 1 to 5 percent range and are you okay with that?

Also take into consideration we are not your friends, your friends are not going to be this candid and forthcoming with harsh realities about your situation, they are mostly going to support you and affirm your feelings but here people won't bullshit you too much, some will but most of the people here are really cool and will force you to look outside of your comfort zone.

Thanks Tiki,
I've always done better with men slightly older. He's full of life and easy to be with. Very supportive and lets his guard down when he's alone with me. That's why I fell in love with him. I don't want kids of my own. Never have. He already has a son - that was another reasons why I thought we were a good match. He told me very early on that he feels that I'm the one. I felt it too. He and I just mesh. Everything was going well before he got sick. He changed a lot and last night when we talked he admitted that he was pretty hard to reach. I believe that he is my soulmate and that one day we will get married. We talked about marriage so much in the past that we actually needed to slow that down.

I think the "falling apart" part was because for a time, he wasn't communicating at all. Or if he was (in his words) he was doing so very poorly. I don't need constant affection, I just needed him to let me know what he needed from me at the time. Because he hadn't been talking much the "domino effect" on me got really bad and it made me think crazy things, then act out in crazy ways.

All I can say is that for us it's been a tremendous learning experience.

Lastlym, I kno

Lastly, I know I'm not "friends" with the people in the forum, but my real friends don't pull ANY punches. If I was out of order I would have been getting CHECKED left and right/up and down by my friends, but no one of my friends disrespected me. None of them thought it was appropriate or helpful to call me a jerk.

No worries thought, I see all of this as a learning experience.

If the responders motives were pure, and in some cases that was a big IF, I appreciate the tough love.

Posted by 3588PISCES
CutieGirl,

only the MORONS here didnt notice that the time you used when you posted the chart was the time when you looked up your chart.

yes go ahead and hit the ignore button on Elle & Stillwater. they are both acting really stupid.
you will be the only one not reading their posts, however others can still see them posting. If you do unblock them, just ignore them like they never existed.

If Elle did know about charts and was very smart she should have noticed that that was the time when you pulled up that chart.

and my lady your chart you posted about your capricorn man.

is CAPRICORN sun,, not Scorpio sun 🙂
His moon is in scorpio which means he is reserved and a little secretive.

THANKS!!!!

Posted by R24
Your loss cutiegirl. ellessque is very knowledgeable about charts. She is a very straight shooter, and her opinions can sound cutting and offend ultra-sensitive types, but her advice is not given with malice. If she thinks you're being a "jerk" she will call you out without any candy coating.

Now for her "lol" was because you did not enter your cappy's correctly info. The chart you pulled was for a scorpio, and a double scorpio at that!

Where was the cap born (and what time of the day if you know)?
Then one of us will pull it up for you

R24 - I know he was born in Chicago, Ill. I do not know his birth time.
I was born in Shreveport, LA approx 3:30pm to 4:30pm.

Regarding Elless: She was asked twice to leave. Do you REALLY think this woman gives a flying sh!t about me? You can keep defending her, but the fact is that her words of advice were not quality. They were very childish as she resorted to name calling me. How would YOU like it if I went to YOUR post and called you a jerk? I'd just say I'm not sugar-coating it - would it be OK then? I don't think you would start agreeing with me if I called you a jerk. If I did you would ask me to kick rocks. I don't have any issue with straight talk - but what she posted as some bullsh!t!
What's so amazing is if she felt I was such a jerk WHY is she coming BACK to my post. She hasn't made ONE positive comment here so why you keep bacing her up is a mystery to me.

Posted by StillWater

Posted by 3588PISCES
CutieGirl,

only the MORONS here didnt notice that the time you used when you posted the chart was the time when you looked up your chart.

yes go ahead and hit the ignore button on Elle & Stillwater. they are both acting really stupid.
you will be the only one not reading their posts, however others can still see them posting. If you do unblock them, just ignore them like they never existed.

What did I do? If because I didn't notice when she put the date makes me a MORON then sure. I was just pointing that it was the wrong chart and may be we should look everything over now bcz CutieGirl doesn't know much when it comes to astrology. I don't really know what to say to that except may be you should follow your own values: not being mean. Right now you are being very mean to me and I really don't know why.

And don't hit the ignore button on me...I'm a very understand person you know...read my first reply to this post. I haven't said anything mean at all O🙂, y'all know that! 🙂

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So it was ok for me to be called a jerk, but you're not ok being called a moron? I don't think some of you have the ability to see what it's like until it's thrown back in your face.

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Posted by CutieGirl
FYI - I had to just go ahead and block Elless.

Even after asking her twice to leave my post with her negativity, she continues to come back for the sole purpose of being rude and disrespectful.

Her comments have been removed.

This is a public forum and the block feature is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Another injustice done to free speech.

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Stillwater - WOW! Let me call YOU out of your name a few times and get some people to jump on the bandwagon with that kind of disrespect and we'll see how quick you block me. I don't have time for haters. I asked "your friend" to leave if she was so offended by my request for answers and she wasn't even smart enough to do that. She just HAD to keep coming back to my post and see what was going on. You see each time she did come back her advice NEVER got better! Nobody has time to hear all that foolishness. Being that we are both in our 40's I can say for certain, she's too old to be acting like that! If that's the best she can do she needs to push on - NOW YOU CAN GO RUN TELL THAT!

No, but you can't understand why Elless has been asked to leave. You felt what she said was warranted and should have been respected.

Posted by 3588PISCES
I'll help you pull your chart for you guys if you would like.

Just send me his info in private his time of birth & date of birth and I will gladly do it for you.
I will also send you his numerology life path explanation and day description so you have a better idea of your cap man.

And I am a scorpio mooner so I can share a little bit about my mooon to you as well. it will help you too.
we have a difficult moon that is for sure. 😢

People here know you are new at this and it is very easy to make a mistake when pulling charts. no one should be making fun of you.


Koi & Eusive seem very respectful and knowledgeable at this.
@ Koi & Eusive, can you please help CutieGirl with their charts for me. 🙂

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!!! Can we PLEASE talk about the chart? I have SO much to learn! LOL / I just want to move on from the Elless issue.

Posted by 3588PISCES
I am not taking things personal. Im just tired of peoples bs. period.

Cutiegirl has been taking it for a while, people are mean, then nice and she keeps fogiving them. that is a beautiful trait about pisces.

Im a Pisces /SCORPIO mooner so I dont give a ******* if you guys like me or not. my moon sure takes over my sun and I will use it to my advantage to help or to crush you. your choice.🙂

LOL - High five 3588PISCES!!!

Ok - thanks!!!

@88, mean? We're not stroking her ego and we're not catering to her self-pity about not being the center of attention with her Cap. Those that do not pander to her she accuses of not understanding, yet we are basing our observations on her own words and self-described behaviors. She made it perfectly clear that she has been feeling unloved and even whined to the Cap about it (not very becoming). In one of her other threads she indicated she was calling it off because his world didn't revolve around her, while at the same time knowing that he may have cancer, yet, all the while saying she is supportive and wants to be there for him. There is something very wrong with that picture!! So, if she gets called names for such behavior, maybe she needs to check herself at the door! She has not listened to one piece of sound advice!

@Cutie, final word of advice, he's a Cap, you will NEVER be the center of his universe - at least not to the extent you desire/need. Go find a yourself a Leo who will be more than happy to dote over you!

Posted by R24
And CG, I am glad you and your cap are ok now. But I think you needed to chill out with your demands on him in light of his health problems. He may be the jerk sometimes and not call you, push you away,ignore you, etc., because of fear of dying or being abandoned, depression, self pity, all of which are normal reactions after initially finding out there is a possible chance of having a terminal illness. You wanted to break up with him or be demanding on some other threads. It was great that you didn't and withstood the lashing out/coldness and were just there. Thats what he needs from you, to be there.

Thanks R24! - I am officially chilling out on my demands.

Posted by CutieGirl
OH - HERE'S THE LATEST UPDATE

We had a long heart to heart talk after his nap and I think it was that honest conversation that allowed us to really reconnect again. With lots of cuddling and butterfly kisses, we remembered how much we really DO love each other.

The best part is that he is finally FINALLY letting me go with him to the doctor!!! Today he will have an ultrasound and he mentioned that he feels he needs to emotionally prepare himself so I told him I wasn't trying to push, but I can go with him. I'm off all day today and it would be no problem. They need to see if the lump on his kidney is solid mass or a cyst filled with fluid. He said OK, and I almost cried. LOL So happy I can be there for him!

What's crazy is that after his storm quiets down, most of the time he comes back and thanks me for breaking through his wall. SMH - Oh well...

Thanks again everyone for the love and support!!!

See, the persistence I mentioned at the beginning of this thread is paying off. I promise you, he is grateful for it! If yall can get through this, you can get through anything.

Posted by venusianbull
I haven't read all this really BUT. How would you feel if possibly given a death sentence? Your first thought would not to be playful nor easily distracted. You cannot shake someone out of this. It is not a *funk* or a *passing mood* it is quite possibly the end of life. At the very least a complete change of it. A battle with doctors, hospitals, chemotherapy, pills. Vomiting, weakness, loss of hair in some instances. While the *cure* rages in you killing good along with bad.
All you can do is stand there. Solid and true. Be there to hold a hand and listen to them rage against fate. To go through with them all the ups and downs and weather the storms of verbal abuse; and yes there will be some. The anger is not directed at someone really, it is against life itself and the vicious joke played upon oneself.
Nay, this is something very serious. A true test of ones emotional fortitude and understanding. If you cannot be a true woman and stand by him in everything, then do not assume the mantle as such.
If you cannot be sure of love in the face of adversity, then do not call it love. Adversity strengthens bonds, not weakens them.

+ 1 million

Posted by StillWater
Can u someone comment on my theory? It's far more important than the other nonsense going on in this thread.

I would but I'm more air than fish sorry.

Your best bets are P-Angel or Nefer on the Pisces board.

Posted by MissPirate

Posted by StillWater
Can u someone comment on my theory? It's far more important than the other nonsense going on in this thread.

I would but I'm more air than fish sorry.

Your best bets are P-Angel or Nefer on the Pisces board.

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I guess I have far too little Water for a Pisces.. mostly Earth and Air with a blast of Fire... and this theory sounds nothing like me, not even when I was a young, impressionable, idealistic guppy. *shrug*

Doesn't sound much like ANY Fish I know.. except perhaps a little of the "woe is me" self-victimizing young Pisces fellow my Virgo niece is with. A nice enough boy in many ways.. but OH so damaged from an OH so brutal childhood with a mother who told him pretty much daily he was unwanted and unloved, and still does. That's a broken Fishie.. poor boy has so many cracks and fissures, he wouldn't even know where to begin healing them all.. so he sinks comfortably down into the role he's been boxed into since birth.. victim. Martyr. Helpless, hopeless, and beyond saving.. full of self-loathing, full of approval-seeking.. I've never known another Pisces so hung up on others' approval, that's just not a normal mode for Merfolk.. but I suppose that stems from his awful childhood he's BARELY aged past even now. Poor little guppy.. I feel for him, I do.. but he'll eventually destroy my blinded-by-love niece.. and there's nothing any of us can do to stop her.. she's martyred HERSELF on the Altar Of Proving To Him That He Is Worthy And Loved. *sad sigh*

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Posted by MissPirate

Posted by StillWater
Can u someone comment on my theory? It's far more important than the other nonsense going on in this thread.

I would but I'm more air than fish sorry.

Your best bets are P-Angel or Nefer on the Pisces board.

I guess I have far too little Water for a Pisces.. mostly Earth and Air with a blast of Fire... and this theory sounds nothing like me, not even when I was a young, impressionable, idealistic guppy. *shrug*

Doesn't sound much like ANY Fish I know.. except perhaps a little of the "woe is me" self-victimizing young Pisces fellow my Virgo niece is with. A nice enough boy in many ways.. but OH so damaged from an OH so brutal childhood with a mother who told him pretty much daily he was unwanted and unloved, and still does. That's a broken Fishie.. poor boy has so many cracks and fissures, he wouldn't even know where to begin healing them all.. so he sinks comfortably down into the role he's been boxed into since birth.. victim. Martyr. Helpless, hopeless, and beyond saving.. full of self-loathing, full of approval-seeking.. I've never known another Pisces so hung up on others' approval, that's just not a normal mode for Merfolk.. but I suppose that stems from his awful childhood he's BARELY aged past even now. Poor little guppy.. I feel for him, I do.. but he'll eventually destroy my blinded-by-love niece.. and there's nothing any of us can do to stop her.. she's martyred HERSELF on the Altar Of Proving To Him That He Is Worthy And Loved. *sad sigh*

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Thanks Nefer. 🙂

That was quick though! How did you know I "summoned" you ha. Psychic fish you. 😛