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Ands vs 23 yo sag cancer moon 20 yo libra Aries moon

My 2025 is not going so well 😅
Both of these bombed by the 2nd or 3rd date
Sag>you>libra
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You haven’t seen the Mr burns angle 🤣

They’re still young anyway they could mog if they’re really into it by mid 20s
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Is the Libra a they/them 💀💀
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I ghosted both of them
Idk what it was with the libra though I think I didn’t like her taste in things tv shows and the way she spoke was kinda brootal lol Aries moon
The sag idk a bit too conservative for me
We are going to have to design one for you😃
Why ghost? Could you not be honest with them?
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Ghosting is how gen z does it 🤣

They prefer it over being told exactly what it is

That way they can make up their own reason

It really is for the best 😅
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Oh God😩😂

The one I raised is the total opposite

Brooootally honest lol

Brave heart ❤️
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Worst of all, my cap ex 💀
He’s a touch of psycho 😬
You look very pretty 🥰

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Tbh I shouldn't shade him like that since we both looked so happy there. But thank you 🤗
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That’s very gracious of you and sorry if my comment was out of order.

I hope he didn’t hurt you 🤗❤️
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My Chippendale lookin pisces ex

Background story why it didn't work out
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yeah, he's an angel inside and outside, except for being sexually abusive at one point. cliffs notes:

-met in summer 2014, first slept together summer 2015 after he tried and was rejected many times till I got drunk and made moves one day. (I rejected because he's 8 years older and at that point I had never been w someone so old)

-made it official summer 2016, he dumped me trying to make things work with his taurus baby-mom. their son is now 22 and the couple have been off and on this whole time since like 2000

-reconnected in 2020, I told him I wanna marry him and secured a promotion at work, we made it official, he found out I was vaccinated and was LIVID. he thinks I altered his dna by having sex with him without disclosing my vaccination status. I also was talking shit at work about this other girl he saw in 2020 with 3 baby dads, he dumped me for that because she found out and confronted him, I told him I started carrying around a meat cleaver for her since she threatened to beat me up and I threatened suicide also. he got me on yayo at this time as well. I got demoted, he got a great job, have rarely heard from him since

the taurus bm doesn't offend me as a human although she posts mean Facebook posts about me, the gemini girl who I got into the altercation with though was one of those romantic rivals who traumatizes you. like if I was Diana and she was camilla
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I ghosted both of them
Idk what it was with the libra though I think I didn’t like her taste in things tv shows and the way she spoke was kinda brootal lol Aries moon
The sag idk a bit too conservative for me
We are going to have to design one for you😃
Why ghost? Could you not be honest with them?
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Ghosting is how gen z does it 🤣
They prefer it over being told exactly what it is
That way they can make up their own reason
It really is for the best 😅
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Oh God😩😂

The one I raised is the total opposite

Brooootally honest lol

Brave heart ❤️
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Gen Z is brutally honest lol

Libra hurt Ands’s feelings with a fake excuse saying she ran out of saliva (this is not even a thing 😂) and the Sag left him with his pants at his ankles multiple times and texted him photos of her partying with other dudes.

Ands should date women his own age like you and knit a lovely sweater.
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Worst of all, my cap ex 💀
He’s a touch of psycho 😬
You look very pretty 🥰
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Tbh I shouldn't shade him like that since we both looked so happy there. But thank you 🤗
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That’s very gracious of you and sorry if my comment was out of order.

I hope he didn’t hurt you 🤗❤️
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you called it. he's psycho for real just so covert. he wasn't abusive, just a smug, pompous, arrogant priss who wanted to sleep in different beds and treated me like a pest
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Worst of all, my cap ex 💀
He’s a touch of psycho 😬
You look very pretty 🥰
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Tbh I shouldn't shade him like that since we both looked so happy there. But thank you 🤗
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That’s very gracious of you and sorry if my comment was out of order.
I hope he didn’t hurt you 🤗❤️
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you called it. he's psycho for real just so covert. he wasn't abusive, just a smug, pompous, arrogant priss who wanted to sleep in different beds and treated me like a pest
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Wow good riddance 👏
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My Chippendale lookin pisces ex
Background story why it didn't work out
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yeah, he's an angel inside and outside, except for being sexually abusive at one point. cliffs notes:

-met in summer 2014, first slept together summer 2015 after he tried and was rejected many times till I got drunk and made moves one day. (I rejected because he's 8 years older and at that point I had never been w someone so old)

-made it official summer 2016, he dumped me trying to make things work with his taurus baby-mom. their son is now 22 and the couple have been off and on this whole time since like 2000

-reconnected in 2020, I told him I wanna marry him and secured a promotion at work, we made it official, he found out I was vaccinated and was LIVID. he thinks I altered his dna by having sex with him without disclosing my vaccination status. I also was talking shit at work about this other girl he saw in 2020 with 3 baby dads, he dumped me for that because she found out and confronted him, I told him I started carrying around a meat cleaver for her since she threatened to beat me up and I threatened suicide also. he got me on yayo at this time as well. I got demoted, he got a great job, have rarely heard from him since

the taurus bm doesn't offend me as a human although she posts mean Facebook posts about me, the gemini girl who I got into the altercation with though was one of those romantic rivals who traumatizes you. like if I was Diana and she was camilla
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Well aren't you something special
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My Chippendale lookin pisces ex
Background story why it didn't work out
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yeah, he's an angel inside and outside, except for being sexually abusive at one point. cliffs notes:
-met in summer 2014, first slept together summer 2015 after he tried and was rejected many times till I got drunk and made moves one day. (I rejected because he's 8 years older and at that point I had never been w someone so old)
-made it official summer 2016, he dumped me trying to make things work with his taurus baby-mom. their son is now 22 and the couple have been off and on this whole time since like 2000
-reconnected in 2020, I told him I wanna marry him and secured a promotion at work, we made it official, he found out I was vaccinated and was LIVID. he thinks I altered his dna by having sex with him without disclosing my vaccination status. I also was talking shit at work about this other girl he saw in 2020 with 3 baby dads, he dumped me for that because she found out and confronted him, I told him I started carrying around a meat cleaver for her since she threatened to beat me up and I threatened suicide also. he got me on yayo at this time as well. I got demoted, he got a great job, have rarely heard from him since
the taurus bm doesn't offend me as a human although she posts mean Facebook posts about me, the gemini girl who I got into the altercation with though was one of those romantic rivals who traumatizes you. like if I was Diana and she was camilla
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I'm sorry to hear that.

Pisces seem to make up their own rules.
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If I wasn't moving away I'd wait for him forever
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The best personality was a libra hookup

We liked the same things and same life style maybe 19 years ago for me when I was in college

She also washed the dishes 🤣

So the next one I dated after her was the sag cancer moon and she didn’t wash dishes 😅 I’m not saying that’s a dealbreaker but the libra was a coffee heiress so if we travelled and it would just be the 2 of us with no maids she’d at least do most of the chores 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the sag I would have to pay for everything and do all the chores 😅


That definitely checks out

Libra women will keep up a home while cancer moon girls dissociate to staind 💀
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That’s a different libra that ran out of saliva 😅

She wasn’t a romantic interest


Are you implying the other two 20 year olds were “romantic interests” 😂

You are half their age, they probably thought you were fun or had more money. Then recoiled when they realized you wanted to date them and your personality is just Rocket. Get a motorcycle or something. You’re competing with sexpats and go getters their own age who don’t need naps.
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I ghosted both of them
Idk what it was with the libra though I think I didn’t like her taste in things tv shows and the way she spoke was kinda brootal lol Aries moon
The sag idk a bit too conservative for me
We are going to have to design one for you😃
Why ghost? Could you not be honest with them?
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Ghosting is how gen z does it 🤣
They prefer it over being told exactly what it is
That way they can make up their own reason
It really is for the best 😅
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Oh God😩😂
The one I raised is the total opposite
Brooootally honest lol
Brave heart ❤️
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Gen Z is brutally honest lol

Libra hurt Ands’s feelings with a fake excuse saying she ran out of saliva (this is not even a thing 😂) and the Sag left him with his pants at his ankles multiple times and texted him photos of her partying with other dudes.

Ands should date women his own age like you and knit a lovely sweater.

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Like Ands, I was always attracted to younger partners so i get it, the purity thing, and as I never put it about i found most men my age had.

The problem is, it never works long term (well not for me anyway) as there’s too many differences. So I’ve given up on looking now.

I’ve no clue how to knit, can you teach me please? Did your mum teach you?
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Posted by MyStarsShineLike Ands, I was always attracted to younger partners so i get it, the purity thing, and as I never put it about i found most men my age had.

The problem is, it never works long term (well not for me anyway) as there’s too many differences. So I’ve given up on looking now.

I’ve no clue how to knit, can you teach me please? Did your mum teach you?


You’re sweet, though with older men like Ands it’s more about carnal pleasures and molding the young woman. Older women prefer their younger partners to already have a repertoire. Like knowing how to knit and the answer to your question/request is yes. Bracelets, socks, sweaters we can do it all.

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I'm ran-through ugly filth so my opinion doesn't matter, but I'm not a fan of go-getters at all. That's why I loved the pisces so much, he saved all his money, had no desire for upward mobility and just wanted to be in nature, find pounds of morels and fry em up. eat em around a bonfire. visit a cemetery, sit in his truck and listen to music. hyper ambitious people exhaust me
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I'm ran-through ugly filth so my opinion doesn't matter, but I'm not a fan of go-getters at all. That's why I loved the pisces so much, he saved all his money, had no desire for upward mobility and just wanted to be in nature, find pounds of morels and fry em up. eat em around a bonfire. visit a cemetery, sit in his truck and listen to music. hyper ambitious people exhaust me

That's sort of the opposite of the Pisces I was seeing. He was luxurious yet simple, he liked to travel, collect designer clothes and shoes. He had Venus in Taurus and Mars in Capricorn, very materialistic and I know what that could possibly mean.

Hmm so I change my mind. I don't want a Pisces man.
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mine had venus Aqua and Mars Scorpio. you can really see that Mars 🔥

post yours?
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I'm ran-through ugly filth so my opinion doesn't matter, but I'm not a fan of go-getters at all. That's why I loved the pisces so much, he saved all his money, had no desire for upward mobility and just wanted to be in nature, find pounds of morels and fry em up. eat em around a bonfire. visit a cemetery, sit in his truck and listen to music. hyper ambitious people exhaust me
That's sort of the opposite of the Pisces I was seeing. He was luxurious yet simple, he liked to travel, collect designer clothes and shoes. He had Venus in Taurus and Mars in Capricorn, very materialistic and I know what that could possibly mean.
Hmm so I change my mind. I don't want a Pisces man.
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mine had venus Aqua and Mars Scorpio. you can really see that Mars 🔥
post yours?
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My what? Venus Gemini Rx and Pisces Mars
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I meant your selfie and Pisces pic (or current love interest)
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That’s a different libra that ran out of saliva 😅
She wasn’t a romantic interest
Are you implying the other two 20 year olds were “romantic interests” 😂
You are half their age, they probably thought you were fun or had more money. Then recoiled when they realized you wanted to date them and your personality is just Rocket. Get a motorcycle or something. You’re competing with sexpats and go getters their own age who don’t need naps.
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Yep that’s exactly what I am saying

There are too many assumptions there on your part

I don’t introduce them to rocket

Yeah I’m just not into motorcycles

Sexpats and go getters their own age that’s cool well you know more than me 😅
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Doesn’t have to be a motorcycle. Do more at the gym besides photos. Otherwise another wall mirror might backfire on your self esteem. Real exercise will allow you to take more than one angle for your selfies.

I feel like you are nitpicking the young women because you are inadequate to them in areas. They also don’t need to like the same shows as you. I bet the Sag’s overbite smile is actually cute, you were going on about a perfect canthal tilt but now she is Mr. Burns because she won’t smash or do your dishes😅
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I don't get the topic 🤷

Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.
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I don't get the topic 🤷

Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.


yeah, that's the premise or comparing yourself to someone you're interested in now (or an SO)

inspired by r/relationship_advice. I always feel like we're missing a huge chunk of context when the story doesn't include photos of both partners. since often the more attractive partner can get away with murder

I appreciate your outlook though especially if it works for you. unfortunately looks are so important to me I'd buy a sugar baby if I could (and have tried many times). it's an immature and self-defeating principle I live by for sure
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I don't get the topic 🤷
Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.

yeah, that's the premise or comparing yourself to someone you're interested in now (or an SO)

inspired by r/relationship_advice. I always feel like we're missing a huge chunk of context when the story doesn't include photos of both partners. since often the more attractive partner can get away with murder

I appreciate your outlook though especially if it works for you. unfortunately looks are so important to me I'd buy a sugar baby if I could (and have tried many times). it's an immature and self-defeating principle I live by for sure
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I'd honestly date pretty much anyone if they seemed fun to be around. Of course I still have to be at the very least somewhat attracted to them. Personally I feel dating around my own level of attractive is the safest bet though. I consider myself pretty average, so I've always been most attracted to average looking people. I also have a weird attraction to people that have some type of physical flaw. This could be a wide range of things. I just like uniqueness over the socal norm of attractive.
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Was I out of his league?
OMG YES SLAY
is he the pisces? he looks like a pipsqueak
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Virgo.

He always said I wasn't good enough. So when we had the chance to meet up after all these years, I reminded him of the things he said 😌 and apparently I've aged well.

This was last year.



Men talk so much smack. Get your pretty, sexy or beautiful woman. I'll stay in my "cuteness", asshole.

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girl same. he can't pull shit. you look very young. DXP gets some fine women especially gems
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I don't get the topic 🤷

Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.


Meh I kinda don't get the topic either tbh. Extreme attractiveness really ain't really my thing I get the hots for women's lower parts of their bods like their legs and feet. The upper section don't matter much to me unless they got upper body muscles and a cute face automatically comes with it. I mean we're talking corners in all the right places in a square face. 10/10 will smooch it.
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I don't get the topic 🤷
Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.

Meh I kinda don't get the topic either tbh. Extreme attractiveness really ain't really my thing I get the hots for women's lower parts of their bods like their legs and feet. The upper section don't matter much to me unless they got upper body muscles and a cute face automatically comes with it. I mean we're talking corners in all the right places in a square face. 10/10 will smooch it.
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I'm actually much the same in that aspect. A nice ass with thick thighs, muscular well shaped calves, nicely maintenance feet, and pretty shoes are always what I tend to notice. I realize I just contradicted myself, but I can't pretend like those type of features aren't attractive.
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Posted by MyStarsShineLike Ands, I was always attracted to younger partners so i get it, the purity thing, and as I never put it about i found most men my age had.
The problem is, it never works long term (well not for me anyway) as there’s too many differences. So I’ve given up on looking now.
I’ve no clue how to knit, can you teach me please? Did your mum teach you?

You’re sweet, though with older men like Ands it’s more about carnal pleasures and molding the young woman. Older women prefer their younger partners to already have a repertoire. Like knowing how to knit and the answer to your question/request is yes. Bracelets, socks, sweaters we can do it all.

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Knitted socks 😃
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I was about to post my ex but if he ever saw, he’d probably hit me with a flame thrower.


Remember those wild gossip websites during the millennial internet, one was called theDirty.com. Example - a person would post a pic of someone they hate and make up something up about them.

Posting someone I know on this god forsaken forum to be scrutinized would give me the same vibes. I feel like Fire moons are used to that kind of shame.
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I don't get the topic 🤷
Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.
Meh I kinda don't get the topic either tbh. Extreme attractiveness really ain't really my thing I get the hots for women's lower parts of their bods like their legs and feet. The upper section don't matter much to me unless they got upper body muscles and a cute face automatically comes with it. I mean we're talking corners in all the right places in a square face. 10/10 will smooch it.

I'm actually much the same in that aspect. A nice ass with thick thighs, muscular well shaped calves, nicely maintenance feet, and pretty shoes are always what I tend to notice. I realize I just contradicted myself, but I can't pretend like those type of features aren't attractive.
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Call me weird because I truly am weird but I'd like to get beat up by one of those types you mention and even get butt crushed.
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I don't get the topic 🤷
Is this like comparing yourself to people you dated? If that's the case I only date 7's and under. Anyone over that instantly gets blocked. I find super attractive people extremely unattractive for some reason. Mostly because I know they want something. Money, attention, status, a beta simp. I never know exactly what they want, but I know it's something that isn't personality and magnetic charm.
Meh I kinda don't get the topic either tbh. Extreme attractiveness really ain't really my thing I get the hots for women's lower parts of their bods like their legs and feet. The upper section don't matter much to me unless they got upper body muscles and a cute face automatically comes with it. I mean we're talking corners in all the right places in a square face. 10/10 will smooch it.
I'm actually much the same in that aspect. A nice ass with thick thighs, muscular well shaped calves, nicely maintenance feet, and pretty shoes are always what I tend to notice. I realize I just contradicted myself, but I can't pretend like those type of features aren't attractive.
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Call me weird because I truly am weird but I'd like to get beat up by one of those types you mention and even get butt crushed.
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Hey, I honestly can't pretend like I don't agree 😆
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Ands is a high class pino. The lower classes have no problem dating anybody even foreigners, expats, or expatriating themselves, but the high class ones make it a point to stay in the phillipines and date an ethnic phillipinx from the same socio economic background. It's a question of standing.

That makes a lot of people looking for the perfect date in a limited dating pool that is very competitive.

Most of these people date each other while wondering if they're not missing out on better options. And they spend their time trawling the dating pool through micro relationships in the search of the rarest pokemon. 3 generations ago this wouldn't be a problem because your parents would have arranged an union for you, but the phillipines have westernized and adopted that boomer lie that one will find their husband/wife in a night club

Poor ands wasted all his youth away and now is dating 20 y.o girls who, because of what I just described, will never want to settle with a funny 40 y.o. mugatu.

this is why I think ands should broaden his dating horizons, either date foreigners, or knock up a nice well educated civil servant and maker her his wife and don't look back
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Posted by CoCoBeans
Those two hate me and we’ve been no eye contact for three years now 🤣 hope they’ve figured out their situation by now 🙏🏼 I meant no harm done.
Pisco would try to make him jealous with more lipstick but she just ended up looking like Krusty the Clown
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Leave pisco alone bro. Talking to madhatter is the reason why my ex left me lol. I was like wow. Do you think that was his real reason or…? He got really jealous and said “this is how I know you will never respect me” then things went down hill. After awhile he tried to reconcile but I was still like wowwwwwwww
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I think they are both cornballs for making a public spectacle of their online relationship problems like a couple of teenagers. Butthurter is a coward with daddy issues and Pisco was his hanger-on. Truly unfortunate your relationship got dragged into that, but Madhatter is a manchild like that.
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