What to do with this Gem ? (Page 2)

This topic was created in the Gemini forum by BadSag12 on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 and has 88 replies.

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

erg badsag12!

i think you should play it differently..thats too blunt. no more interest if its all laid out..

he would probably see it from a standpoint that its pointless to respond...like "ok..and?" "if she thinks we should be friends and THINKs im not interested and shes ok with that" then it shouldn't matter "i" respond. and if i do respond i'll just be socially correct to save my face "oh okay.. ;(" "why do you feel this way??" "its just you've been busy"

it will be something along the lines of rejecting responsibility. acting innocent that sorta deal...and even if he does come clean its just to make sure his rep is secured ..no gem wants to feel like the bad guy.

it seems like you want him to validate your emotions ..which i think he notices and will find it to be weak.

hahahaha god men are so...*strangles imaginary neck*

do you want more with him or are you ready to move on?

if you want to be friends i say no words need to be said just sorta go...

🙂

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@BadSag12
15 Years

I want more with them and now hes asking me the reason "why" I dont want to seem weak ! ughhh. NOW WHAT HELP ! ?

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@RealTalk
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Just tell him then. Don't worry about sounding weak, being too blunt, or whatever. Be yourself. Just tell him what's up & if he can't respect that, you don't need him anyway. Being real always works, whether the outcome is positive or negative, at least you'll know the deal.

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@NZaries
14 Years

Great advice realtalk. You know we can all try and play the games, doing our heads in but then we arnt being true to ourselves. You can get so lost in it all. Im with realtalk, be yourself and if its meant to be its meant to be. And hell be would be sooo lucky to have you. Oh and yes im gonna do the same with mine. Hell i cant keep up the games for the rest of my life would end up being committed, locked in a padded cell in a faetal position in the corner.....

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@BadSag12
15 Years

So I told him, how I didn't know where I stood with him and if he is willing to try and progress our relationship then so am I, I just haven't heard from him the past days and I don't want to waste my time so I asked him what he wanted. He said it was because "I am touchy and he is not", I said "I know that but what do you want?" He hasn't answered back to that yet so I'm going to say "Do you want a casual hangout with each other go with the flow and we can talk to other people relationship or do you want a one on one serious relationship with each other? Your choice like I said I don't want to waste my time."

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Um like I said previously on page 2 lol..just say cuz I'm tired of your bullshit. It's not your job to baby him. Tell him that PERIOD. Then don't respond for WEEKs. Even if he calls and texts obsessively..whispers sweet nothings...avoid for more than two weeks..or till he cones straight out a tells you sorry for his bullshit. He's gonna try to win you over to prove he is good..don't give in. Just stick your ground.

I'm thinking give in when he does say something like this

" I'm sorry for being so cold to you. I want to start over...I guess I feel a,b,c,d" similar to this. When a gem says somethin close to absolute..you have a better chance of getting what you want thus way 🙂 let ne know what happens!! * grabs popcorn*

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Posted by BadSag12
So I told him, how I didn't know where I stood with him and if he is willing to try and progress our relationship then so am I, I just haven't heard from him the past days and I don't want to waste my time so I asked him what he wanted. He said it was because "I am touchy and he is not", I said "I know that but what do you want?" He hasn't answered back to that yet so I'm going to say "Do you want a casual hangout with each other go with the flow and we can talk to other people relationship or do you want a one on one serious relationship with each other? Your choice like I said I don't want to waste my time."

Lol like I Said...gems don't like any pressure like situations..regardless if your not if he feels you can't ..just go with the flow hello drop you completely..gems need someone to go with the flow because they need time to understand which idea is absolutely right. This being said what you said isn't working..he Saud you choose becausell he's trying to prove to you that being si definite is confusing and boring and pointless. That's his stance. Why can't you go with the flow is what he's thinking...

For instance he mentioned you were forcing it. Collectively he feels your trying too hard for a unknown goal. And your methods to him are useless and achieves nothing but to be accepted and validated. Which also then simultaneously show a insecure weak personality that may not be strong enough to be in a relationship with him. I feel his relationship values through your story. He knows he's nit perfect..so he also expects a person a gf..to be Sd ble to be strong when he us weak. A mind that can help him see both sides of all the possibilities in his head..to reach as a team a conclusive absolute result.

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Just give him silent treatment..trust and have confidence in yourself...he likes you he just wants you to ease off the pressure-like situation..like I feel he is feeling uncomfortable...in his eyes it seems your asking for absolutes..or confusing him more

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Soo just do what I Said till he responds like the above..your risking it but doing the ways I told you will give you clear absolutes either a...he realizes over the weeks his bullshit it he doesn't wanna bother with it.nbetter than nothing right?

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@BadSag12
15 Years

I told him I wanted to go with the flow I guess and if he even responds back I'm just not gonna talk to him. Thanks for everything 🙂

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@BadSag12
15 Years

lol, hes the 1st one I dealed with. I hope they're worth it. I don't see why they have to be so complicated if you like someone why be so distant?

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@BadSag12
15 Years

and every time I ask a serious question that has to do with his personal life he says its a "weird" question... ?

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

I had a lot of training lol a PhD in it. Honestly my gem is worth it...cause well he just fits me! Glimpse...found naked photos of other girls v jays..tried contacting exs..went back and forth. But at the end he always chose me. I'm awesome..legendary..lol its not my problem he didn't see those things..well u see...I made him see over time.

We have thus innate understanding with no judgments tee hee...God woman but ill tell ya...its been a fucking rollar coaster ride with just loops. Loops loops loops ha

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Lol hahaha oh man under my control he'll be muddy puddy. Hes being lame lol he's purposely giving you a hard time doing everything he can to prove to you that your overbearing expecting unrealistic things. Which I think its bullshit. His bullshit. Just tell him I'm tired of your bullshit. Leave out.

No explaining he's a grown man..he ain't dumb hahag God s.o.b!! I wanna just donkey punch him

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@RealTalk
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Posted by candi3bb

Posted by BadSag12
So I told him, how I didn't know where I stood with him and if he is willing to try and progress our relationship then so am I, I just haven't heard from him the past days and I don't want to waste my time so I asked him what he wanted. He said it was because "I am touchy and he is not", I said "I know that but what do you want?" He hasn't answered back to that yet so I'm going to say "Do you want a casual hangout with each other go with the flow and we can talk to other people relationship or do you want a one on one serious relationship with each other? Your choice like I said I don't want to waste my time."

Lol like I Said...gems don't like any pressure like situations..regardless if your not if he feels you can't ..just go with the flow hello drop you completely..gems need someone to go with the flow because they need time to understand which idea is absolutely right. This being said what you said isn't working..he Saud you choose becausell he's trying to prove to you that being si definite is confusing and boring and pointless. That's his stance. Why can't you go with the flow is what he's thinking...

For instance he mentioned you were forcing it. Collectively he feels your trying too hard for a unknown goal. And your methods to him are useless and achieves nothing but to be accepted and validated. Which also then simultaneously show a insecure weak personality that may not be strong enough to be in a relationship with him. I feel his relationship values through your story. He knows he's nit perfect..so he also expects a person a gf..to be Sd ble to be strong when he us weak. A mind that can help him see both sides of all the possibilities in his head..to reach as a team a conclusive absolute result.

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You can go with the flow of things because I don't believe in forcing nature. But I DO believe in pushing it a little, & sometimes you gotta turn that flow into flourish. If a relationship is just que sera sera, it's cool for a little while but if it's stagnant and/or not moving along as you wish, you gotta re-evaluate it to see what's up & deal with it accordingly.

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

That was the beginning. Honestly lol..um I wasn't being true to him either..I played flirted not sexually , with other guys...like I Saud we flow perfectly together...grow the same time same,direction its nice. Never more or less..and look we came closer and close each day. Never a dull moment

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@RealTalk
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Geeze Louise, I bet that was rough. So you guys were casual & it blossomed into a relationship? That's cool. I understand your stance. It's very frustrating going through it though. I guess ya just can't let them only have the key to the relationship. Both of you need to have it. Can't be always on his terms, or your terms, like you said never more or less...it has to be balanced to be harmonious. 🙂

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@candi3bb
15 Years500+ PostsAquarius

Hahaha your reactions crack me up hahaha wuuttttttt—!!! Sighs haha

Yeah its hard to explain..from outsider I could see how it looks..but your spot on. It's really about finding someone that you share the same values..even if socially unacceptable.

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@BadSag12
15 Years

Ughhh I feel like I messed things up -_____-, I didn't mean to force things to get an answer out of him now I think he thinks I'm a pain.

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@RealTalk
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Posted by candi3bb
Hahaha your reactions crack me up hahaha wuuttttttt—!!! Sighs haha

Yeah its hard to explain..from outsider I could see how it looks..but your spot on. It's really about finding someone that you share the same values..even if socially unacceptable.

True. Not to mention love. That love is a mofo...

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@Whimsy
15 Years1,000+ Posts

Jesus, ladies, he's a MAN...whatever his sign. You don't need to get into the psychology of whether he's sad, confused, or if his mom took his pacifier away too soon. We women WAY overthink things. When a man wants something, he goes for it. If a man isn't going for you, then he hasn't decided for sure that he wants you. You have two choices: separate yourself from the situation or get strung along until he makes up his mind. I think the very best thing to do is to state what you want, and then walk away and live your life while he decides if he can give it to you. Nothing is more motivating than a woman who knows her worth, knows what she wants, and gives the guy a chance to man-up.

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@Whimsy
15 Years1,000+ Posts

...And once he does man up, LET HIM be a man. Let him give you his coat, already. He's showing you that he cares, not trying to take away your autonomy.