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Did I get put in the leo friendzone?
Leo...Cat and mouse pattern...Enjoy
I don't get the friend zone vibe....
I don't get the friend zone vibe....
Tiki33,
cat and mouse..geez, do you think I should just wait for him to make the next move and distance myself. How will I be able to tell if this leo is truly interested?
cat and mouse..geez, do you think I should just wait for him to make the next move and distance myself. How will I be able to tell if this leo is truly interested?
I don't like to ever say that astrologically 'x + y = z'. And that applies tenfold in this matter.
He likes you. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders considering he's not stopping the world over somebody he likes. Sometimes that's frustrating but if you think about it, it shows character and values for his commitments with work, family, and other life happenings.
Most fellow Leos don't like making promises they can't keep - disappointing people is a hard place to be.. especially for a Leo.
He has a life and seems to truly be interested. He just doesn't want to quickly give up everything he's worked for over (no offense) a cute woman. Keep pace and if it starts to become too much to handle any longer, be direct and tactful but don't be sudden or dramatic with it. Try to ease your questions in subtly.
Gemini women can keep Leo men interested and can keep pace well. Socially, as well.
Try to also not focus on the thought of him too much - you'll just become unsettled over nothing. Keep doing your own thing and you'll have him running towards ya.
Really, I hope you two find meeting paths - it sounds endearing. 🙂
He likes you. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders considering he's not stopping the world over somebody he likes. Sometimes that's frustrating but if you think about it, it shows character and values for his commitments with work, family, and other life happenings.
Most fellow Leos don't like making promises they can't keep - disappointing people is a hard place to be.. especially for a Leo.
He has a life and seems to truly be interested. He just doesn't want to quickly give up everything he's worked for over (no offense) a cute woman. Keep pace and if it starts to become too much to handle any longer, be direct and tactful but don't be sudden or dramatic with it. Try to ease your questions in subtly.
Gemini women can keep Leo men interested and can keep pace well. Socially, as well.
Try to also not focus on the thought of him too much - you'll just become unsettled over nothing. Keep doing your own thing and you'll have him running towards ya.
Really, I hope you two find meeting paths - it sounds endearing. 🙂
Really you don't have to worry about him making moves, what you fail to realize is that he is MAKING MOVES, at his own pace, lions are not like other signs, you may deem his behavior as slow but he's hunting, be patient, allow him to continue to lead and inevitably you'll both link up or he'll lose interest and vice versa. He's interested but in what...we won't know until you both officially begin to hang out. If he's asking you out on unofficial dates late evening/at night well we both know what that means, so give him an opportunity to ask you out on a proper date or if he suggest hanging out at his place then you can counter that by suggesting an alternative meeting place for a drink like Starbuck's or your local diner/cafe.
sheathedclaws,
How are you so spot on!? I didn't even mention anything in detail about his work. He actually works for our schools network so he does multiple sports and travels also and this is something he really loves and his career is important to him. I mean he said "I want to be where my boses, boses, boses, boss is" and that's amazing. And determination like that is hard to find in a guy. And yes he also seems to be a loyal, truthful, amazing friend and family lover too. So you're right, he has a life.
I have mini update that made me laugh. I text him tonight asking him about how he was up at 5am covering rowing. It goes a little but like this.
Me: Way jealous of your sunday funday with rowing
him: Haha. I'm sunday fundaying on west 6th. what are you doing?
Me: Jealous. I just finished some laundry which is reallly exciting. You should be the oen that's jealous.
him: so jealous, spring break must be over
me: yep, back to reality
him: so sad
me: vey. i was planning on sunday fundyaying it since my only class tomorrow got cancelled until my friend bailed on me but there is still plenty of time we'll see
him: um..hut me up if you do
me: ok i will. no one has gotten back to me yet but there a possibility that i may roll solo dolo and just meet you down there if thats not a problem for you.
And this is where I was like you know go out on a limb and kind of make plans with him. It was really out of my comfort level because asking/inviting myself in on his plans and when I sent that last message it was 5:54. And hr passed. two hrs passed. And i was waiting for the "go" to get ready and meet him down. and nothing. I was thinking to myself. wow, he could have just told me that he didn't feel comfortable instead of just vanishing. So of course, with my analyzing self I was things.
10:18pm
him: No solo dolo? Where are you?
me: haha you never texted me back so I assumed that was a no for rolling solo dolo and meeting you down there
him: I was down
him: sorry I am bad at texting
me: I cant tell that now! i was beginning to wonder.
him: come hang out
me: how much longer will you guys be down there?
him: I'm at home chilling
me: haha its 11 are you sure thats not to late? youve been up since the buttcrack of dawn.
him: i took a nap
him: I'm good
him: probably not all that exciting though
wrapping it up i said I couldn't because I am actually taking a friend to the airport that is an hr away at 2am. Shoot me in the f
How are you so spot on!? I didn't even mention anything in detail about his work. He actually works for our schools network so he does multiple sports and travels also and this is something he really loves and his career is important to him. I mean he said "I want to be where my boses, boses, boses, boss is" and that's amazing. And determination like that is hard to find in a guy. And yes he also seems to be a loyal, truthful, amazing friend and family lover too. So you're right, he has a life.
I have mini update that made me laugh. I text him tonight asking him about how he was up at 5am covering rowing. It goes a little but like this.
Me: Way jealous of your sunday funday with rowing
him: Haha. I'm sunday fundaying on west 6th. what are you doing?
Me: Jealous. I just finished some laundry which is reallly exciting. You should be the oen that's jealous.
him: so jealous, spring break must be over
me: yep, back to reality
him: so sad
me: vey. i was planning on sunday fundyaying it since my only class tomorrow got cancelled until my friend bailed on me but there is still plenty of time we'll see
him: um..hut me up if you do
me: ok i will. no one has gotten back to me yet but there a possibility that i may roll solo dolo and just meet you down there if thats not a problem for you.
And this is where I was like you know go out on a limb and kind of make plans with him. It was really out of my comfort level because asking/inviting myself in on his plans and when I sent that last message it was 5:54. And hr passed. two hrs passed. And i was waiting for the "go" to get ready and meet him down. and nothing. I was thinking to myself. wow, he could have just told me that he didn't feel comfortable instead of just vanishing. So of course, with my analyzing self I was things.
10:18pm
him: No solo dolo? Where are you?
me: haha you never texted me back so I assumed that was a no for rolling solo dolo and meeting you down there
him: I was down
him: sorry I am bad at texting
me: I cant tell that now! i was beginning to wonder.
him: come hang out
me: how much longer will you guys be down there?
him: I'm at home chilling
me: haha its 11 are you sure thats not to late? youve been up since the buttcrack of dawn.
him: i took a nap
him: I'm good
him: probably not all that exciting though
wrapping it up i said I couldn't because I am actually taking a friend to the airport that is an hr away at 2am. Shoot me in the f
..shoot me in the face. But summary of the story. he admitted that he was a bad texter and i was jumping to conclusion when I didn't need to be. So with this happening tonight and your advice. I am going to remain patience. I really do like him a lot.
tiki33,
You're right, he is making moves. I guess I am not used to being around respectful guys that ACTUALLY try to get to know me. Being a female athlete, I have been around (not in physical ways) too many male athletes for the past 4 years and I am forever suspect when it comes to guys and their slutty ways haha.
But yeah, I am not that girl that is going to just hook up so when he asks to hang out at his place and it's late I am kind of hesitant of putting myself in that situation. I like that meet somewhere else suggestion though.
You're right, he is making moves. I guess I am not used to being around respectful guys that ACTUALLY try to get to know me. Being a female athlete, I have been around (not in physical ways) too many male athletes for the past 4 years and I am forever suspect when it comes to guys and their slutty ways haha.
But yeah, I am not that girl that is going to just hook up so when he asks to hang out at his place and it's late I am kind of hesitant of putting myself in that situation. I like that meet somewhere else suggestion though.
I wonder why you both aren't talking ON THE PHONE, ugh text messaging is a huge pain in the ass when attempting to connect with another human being, it's so impersonal and text messaging can easily be misinterpreted, I know your 21 so I'll stop preaching LOL but please find a better way to communicate, for the most part I have to say if he's asking to hook up at 11am he probably don't take you seriously being that your so young, it really doesn't matter if he wants sex or not what matters is that you don't do anything you're not comfortable with, eventually you'll get to hang out and observe more through his interactions with you.
Do men ask women out on dates anymore? Or do they just suggest unofficial cheap dates at his place? I'm just wondering what's up with the come over to my place crap, no um get off your ass and take me out, how about that lol.
This guy could make more of an effort and ask you out, it doesn't necessarily have to be a bid deal kind of date but lunch or a drink or just hanging out and talking at a bar/cafe, if he can't well IMO he's wasting your time, you aren't that familiar with him that you'd go over to his place at 8pm or any time for that matter.
I wouldn't count him out but I suggest you continue dating other men until one of those men step to you correct...
Do men ask women out on dates anymore? Or do they just suggest unofficial cheap dates at his place? I'm just wondering what's up with the come over to my place crap, no um get off your ass and take me out, how about that lol.
This guy could make more of an effort and ask you out, it doesn't necessarily have to be a bid deal kind of date but lunch or a drink or just hanging out and talking at a bar/cafe, if he can't well IMO he's wasting your time, you aren't that familiar with him that you'd go over to his place at 8pm or any time for that matter.
I wouldn't count him out but I suggest you continue dating other men until one of those men step to you correct...
11pm and before you "really do like him a lot" get to know him because he may be lacking in the character department if he's not treating you like a proper lady.
Posted by tiki33
Do men ask women out on dates anymore? Or do they just suggest unofficial cheap dates at his place? I'm just wondering what's up with the come over to my place crap, no um get off your ass and take me out, how about that lol.
This guy could make more of an effort and ask you out, it doesn't necessarily have to be a bid deal kind of date but lunch or a drink or just hanging out and talking at a bar/cafe, if he can't well IMO he's wasting your time, you aren't that familiar with him that you'd go over to his place at 8pm or any time for that matter.
Thats why I was worried about this whole friendzone thing. Why is he inviting me over so late AND WHY hasn't he called AND no second date? Yeah our generation texts a lot, a little too much. But a call would be nice. And something PLANNED. He's a great guy but the "Whys" are kind of frustrating. I know he is busy but eh.
Friendzone? More like booty call zone.
If that's you in your picture well he's an idiot LOL but no seriously you're gorgeous, maybe he's trying to play it cool, not appear too anxious so give him a chance but if he's still acting like a knucklehead then bleh forget about him, let him chase you for a date if he's interested, some male lions can play cat and mouse games b/c it's fun so try not to take him seriously and get too caught up with his behavior, BE A QUEEN, have a queen like attitude, never appear less than that, don't initiate anymore calls or text messages, let him DO the work if he want to get to know you outside of hanging at his house....hanging at a strangers house....puhleeeeeze lol.
If that's you in your picture well he's an idiot LOL but no seriously you're gorgeous, maybe he's trying to play it cool, not appear too anxious so give him a chance but if he's still acting like a knucklehead then bleh forget about him, let him chase you for a date if he's interested, some male lions can play cat and mouse games b/c it's fun so try not to take him seriously and get too caught up with his behavior, BE A QUEEN, have a queen like attitude, never appear less than that, don't initiate anymore calls or text messages, let him DO the work if he want to get to know you outside of hanging at his house....hanging at a strangers house....puhleeeeeze lol.
And I don't get that late night thing at all because there is only one thing that he is tryin to tell me and I'm not about that life. Sorry I'm not sorry. And yes that's me in my picture, girl scouts honor. And thank you so much 🙂 I've been tryin to give him the benefit of the doubt with being so nonchalant about not asking me on a second date. I've been letting him initiate the first texts, besides today. He must be crazy if he thinks I'm some booty call. I know he's busy but Im don't want to get caught in that cycle where you make excuses for his actions.
I know he's taking it slow but Ive already done that "being strung along" thing when my answers were right in front of my face telling me to move along. And when i finally did.. the next week, maye two weeks, mr I don't want a relationship right now/mr I don't want to hurt you was in a relationship. Dumb. So that's why I am being cautious. I know I deserve the best, and so does everyone else, and that I should never settle for anything less. But I'll be patiently waiting for a proper date. For a limited time
Thanks for being honest.
I know he's taking it slow but Ive already done that "being strung along" thing when my answers were right in front of my face telling me to move along. And when i finally did.. the next week, maye two weeks, mr I don't want a relationship right now/mr I don't want to hurt you was in a relationship. Dumb. So that's why I am being cautious. I know I deserve the best, and so does everyone else, and that I should never settle for anything less. But I'll be patiently waiting for a proper date. For a limited time
Thanks for being honest.
Posted by tiki33
Do men ask women out on dates anymore? Or do they just suggest unofficial cheap dates at his place? I'm just wondering what's up with the come over to my place crap, no um get off your ass and take me out, how about that lol.
i have asked myself this question many times. the only time a guy asks you around to their place rather than taking you out for a date is for the obvious reason unfortunately. it's a fairly good way of sorting the wheat from the chaff though cos if a man does actually ask you out on a regular date, ie dinner or movie, whatever, then he actually wants to take the time to get to know you.
i got caught up watching jersey shore cos of boredom and the guys in the house are constantly taking or inviting girls that are DTF back to their place. two of them met girls they thought were a little special though and so they discussed how they should approach the date differently. they bought the girls flowers and booked a restaurant to distinguish between them and the usual pickup.
it was very telling.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1sPosted by tiki33
Do men ask women out on dates anymore? Or do they just suggest unofficial cheap dates at his place? I'm just wondering what's up with the come over to my place crap, no um get off your ass and take me out, how about that lol.
i have asked myself this question many times. the only time a guy asks you around to their place rather than taking you out for a date is for the obvious reason unfortunately. it's a fairly good way of sorting the wheat from the chaff though cos if a man does actually ask you out on a regular date, ie dinner or movie, whatever, then he actually wants to take the time to get to know you.
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Yup, this is true. Anything after 8pm and short notice is never good. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for right now until he proves to me that he knows how to actually ask for a second date. If not, NEXT!
If that's the type of girl he thought I was..he must be crazy.
tiki is right, lions like to hunt, this one isn't hunting cause if he was you would know it and feel the ease of being hunted - you wouldn't feel confused or need to analyse. He's texting you late at night etc. for a booty call - telling him you're doing your laundry is telling him you have no life and are available whenever he wants you, so now he can see that, the hunt is off for him and he's moved it into chase for booty - hunt is good, the hunter catches what he sees as the big game and for lions its the queen he want to hunt, chase is bad, the chaser catches what he sees as rabbit and squirrels.
Don't engage in text conversation with him, if he initiates it (you don't initiate) answer and end the conversation, you're not available to sit texting for hours to someone you're not in a relationship with - you're doing well so far, i'd back off even more if I was you - allow him to come and get you if he has the maturity and character that he should have, i'm doubting though - 2nd date should have happened already after what appears to have been a lovely first one.
Don't engage in text conversation with him, if he initiates it (you don't initiate) answer and end the conversation, you're not available to sit texting for hours to someone you're not in a relationship with - you're doing well so far, i'd back off even more if I was you - allow him to come and get you if he has the maturity and character that he should have, i'm doubting though - 2nd date should have happened already after what appears to have been a lovely first one.
I think you planning a second date wouldn't be absolutely unheard of. Nothing too glamorous since he may feel odd about that with him not planning it. Keep everything PUBLIC for awhile to maintain your wants and to stay on top of your intentions (sometimes it's tough turning down things you want but don't want to go too fast).
I think three things that Leos love that are perfect for planning a date is:
1. competition
2. nature
3. culture
For example - dependent on your lion's personality, you could go to a wildlife reserve and go for a hike and animal spotting. Or a fun speedway place that you two can race with go karts. Just make such places aren't trashy. Keep it classy and fun. As for culture.. any type of museum, festival, swing dancing (!).
I'm not sure about other Leos, but I know geocaching is my absolute favorite activity. It's so fun to adventure and explore while on the hunt for a prize... It's a really awesome date activity.
I think three things that Leos love that are perfect for planning a date is:
1. competition
2. nature
3. culture
For example - dependent on your lion's personality, you could go to a wildlife reserve and go for a hike and animal spotting. Or a fun speedway place that you two can race with go karts. Just make such places aren't trashy. Keep it classy and fun. As for culture.. any type of museum, festival, swing dancing (!).
I'm not sure about other Leos, but I know geocaching is my absolute favorite activity. It's so fun to adventure and explore while on the hunt for a prize... It's a really awesome date activity.
GEEZ, I always do this. I don't give guys too many opportunities with me since I am basically around a bunch of male athletes that aren't trying to do anything at this point in their lives SO when I guy that I am actually interested in and has a good head on his shoulder comes along I get kind of excited and ready to see where it goes. I can get impatient at times and become to available since I do want to see if it works out. I've been learning slowly to takes things slow but it's hard to remember. so I did stop initiating texts (besides yesterday) and he's been initiating ever since I stopped. AND not just at night. I think I've made things to easy for him. Since our first date we've met up once downtown and asked if I would come down and meet him again but I said no since my friend that was in town wasn't feeling it. And then asked me twice to come over both after 8pm. Again I declined. I am just going to lay off until proven otherwise. And if he texts ill keep it short and sweet.
Like i said, that last time I had this unsure feeling where the guy wasn't making an effort but enjoying some of the benefits that one would if being in a relationship things didn't turn out well at all. I failed to look at his actions. So this Leo's actions (1) no second date (2) casual outings downtown without any planning (3) asks me to come over after 8. Do you guys agree? I'm done making excuses for guys such as "maybe he's just busy since he has a job". I think I failed at trying to keep it casual and being friends first since we only just met last month but I guess it doesn't really work like that.
Oh I forgot to include. A week after our date I had told him I lost my license sometime in between paddle boarding and he said "I've been meaning to go to the DMV so I can go with you if you need a date" DMV..DMV? Really. Yeah as I am typing I am laughing at myself.
Like i said, that last time I had this unsure feeling where the guy wasn't making an effort but enjoying some of the benefits that one would if being in a relationship things didn't turn out well at all. I failed to look at his actions. So this Leo's actions (1) no second date (2) casual outings downtown without any planning (3) asks me to come over after 8. Do you guys agree? I'm done making excuses for guys such as "maybe he's just busy since he has a job". I think I failed at trying to keep it casual and being friends first since we only just met last month but I guess it doesn't really work like that.
Oh I forgot to include. A week after our date I had told him I lost my license sometime in between paddle boarding and he said "I've been meaning to go to the DMV so I can go with you if you need a date" DMV..DMV? Really. Yeah as I am typing I am laughing at myself.
The DMV thing is awfully endearing.
I think you're being not very proactive with letting your intentions known. Some guys just don't initiate things too much. It's old world to expect him to. If you want a second date, ask him out yourself and don't just keep quiet. CALL him, and if he doesn't answer.. leave a message. Don't text back if he texts asking about it. He's not great at texting.. so why the hell are you still texting him?
I think you're being too confusing with him and not actually communicating.. then reading WAY too much into his actions or lackthereof.
Maybe I'm different than other Leos, but at least for me.. I hate not being presented with direct communication if somebody wants to date me. Because then the communication isn't there later on in the relationship and why the hell would I waste time on somebody assuming my thoughts and actions?
Ask him out if you want a date. Don't text. Call. Don't call more than once after leaving a message until he calls you back. Don't read into anything - that undermines intelligence and isn't healthy for both parties. Just keep on his wavelength and be real.
I think you're being not very proactive with letting your intentions known. Some guys just don't initiate things too much. It's old world to expect him to. If you want a second date, ask him out yourself and don't just keep quiet. CALL him, and if he doesn't answer.. leave a message. Don't text back if he texts asking about it. He's not great at texting.. so why the hell are you still texting him?
I think you're being too confusing with him and not actually communicating.. then reading WAY too much into his actions or lackthereof.
Maybe I'm different than other Leos, but at least for me.. I hate not being presented with direct communication if somebody wants to date me. Because then the communication isn't there later on in the relationship and why the hell would I waste time on somebody assuming my thoughts and actions?
Ask him out if you want a date. Don't text. Call. Don't call more than once after leaving a message until he calls you back. Don't read into anything - that undermines intelligence and isn't healthy for both parties. Just keep on his wavelength and be real.
"(1) no second date (2) casual outings downtown without any planning (3) asks me to come over after 8. Do you guys agree?"
Yes, absolutely. Judge him by his actions, he has spoken volumes. These are your red flags - flush him.
Yes, absolutely. Judge him by his actions, he has spoken volumes. These are your red flags - flush him.
Another red flag just popped into my head - YOU are finding yourself making excuses for him - once you do this with a potential then you should stop in your tracks and KNOW that something isn't right about the progression of your dating/potential dating - its your subconcious telling you something you already know, there is no excuse to be made - he's too busy to pick up the phone? nah.
i've learned alot about leo men the past year in the romantic sense and it was a very painful lesson. i do have quite a few long term leo male friends but purely platonic.
the one romantic episode started with a full on foxhunt. he absolutely bombarded me with texts, calls, emails...notes on my desk...random cups of tea...i was in no doubt whatsoever what his intentions were. it continued throughout the time we were seeing eachother but weren't in eachother's company...constant bombardment...intense messages too. then it was cut dead due to his 'ex' situation but my point is, the only time you start to question any man's motives is when he's fucking you around...not texting back..arranging dates and cancelling them or arranging visits to his place for after 8pm like you're a last minute option and generally becoming illusive. when this is happening, the romance is over. whatever the reasons behind it, if the bombardment has ceased, the hunt has been called off.
and in these circumstances, you should do as your doing and walk away from him.
i have always known that leo men are very open about their wants and desires and they go after them until they get what they want. i knew this when i became involved with one which is why i was so shocked when it ended so abruptly. what i didn't realise at the time is that leo men don't necessarily think through their wants and desires...they just want them and they want them now. they don't consider the consequences and people get hurt in the process and then more people get hurt while he patches up the hurt he's caused elsewhere which is messy and unpleasant to get caught up in. no man is worth that kind of grief.
you're an athlete who is used to working in a disciplined environment. you know about focus and motivation and no doubt you are a strong minded individual. you don't need to involve yourself with a man who has the potential to damage that spirit to an extent that it starts to interfere with your career. you are so much better than that 🙂
the one romantic episode started with a full on foxhunt. he absolutely bombarded me with texts, calls, emails...notes on my desk...random cups of tea...i was in no doubt whatsoever what his intentions were. it continued throughout the time we were seeing eachother but weren't in eachother's company...constant bombardment...intense messages too. then it was cut dead due to his 'ex' situation but my point is, the only time you start to question any man's motives is when he's fucking you around...not texting back..arranging dates and cancelling them or arranging visits to his place for after 8pm like you're a last minute option and generally becoming illusive. when this is happening, the romance is over. whatever the reasons behind it, if the bombardment has ceased, the hunt has been called off.
and in these circumstances, you should do as your doing and walk away from him.
i have always known that leo men are very open about their wants and desires and they go after them until they get what they want. i knew this when i became involved with one which is why i was so shocked when it ended so abruptly. what i didn't realise at the time is that leo men don't necessarily think through their wants and desires...they just want them and they want them now. they don't consider the consequences and people get hurt in the process and then more people get hurt while he patches up the hurt he's caused elsewhere which is messy and unpleasant to get caught up in. no man is worth that kind of grief.
you're an athlete who is used to working in a disciplined environment. you know about focus and motivation and no doubt you are a strong minded individual. you don't need to involve yourself with a man who has the potential to damage that spirit to an extent that it starts to interfere with your career. you are so much better than that 🙂
hold on. earlier in the thread you were answering the OP which you pointed out was regarding a leo man, as a leo man. now all of a sudden, it's all about everything else that's in their chart cos i brought up my 'anecdotal' experience. could it be you didn't think through your first post and now you have, everything's changed? cos that's exactly my point my dear and thanks for proving it, lol 😄 joke
please don't devalue something that i found quite painful to being merely 'anecdotal'. as far as i am concerned it wasn't just a briefly interesting or humorous incident that i regale people with at dinner parties.
this post isn't about me if you don't mind.
please don't devalue something that i found quite painful to being merely 'anecdotal'. as far as i am concerned it wasn't just a briefly interesting or humorous incident that i regale people with at dinner parties.
this post isn't about me if you don't mind.
I've learned a lot from everyone in this post but I think the think the best thing I took from it was trust my intuition. Yes, Leo's have characteristics and he's showing me this and telling me that but obviously there is a little voice inside of me telling me something is wrong and that's why I am here. I think it is time to listen to this voice and move along. I wont completely write him out of my life but at the rate this is going I am not doing myself any favors even though we just practically met. Even if he is taking things slow I think I deserve something more than a casual, unplanned, random, no effort late night hang out. Or if he finally figures things out. Yeah he may be keeping it casual but something is just telling me this is off. So until then I am going to stop racking my brain and feelings with this nooonsense. Ill keep everyone updated because I am sure something will pop up.
R1g0rM0rT1s,
That just sounds like the worse feeling. All that attention and effort and then it just disappears. I think thats why I was so caught up fast with this leo because he was asking for a date that night and everything was planned and then after that it was just sketchy and left me confused. It was fun and exciting while it lasted.
R1g0rM0rT1s,
That just sounds like the worse feeling. All that attention and effort and then it just disappears. I think thats why I was so caught up fast with this leo because he was asking for a date that night and everything was planned and then after that it was just sketchy and left me confused. It was fun and exciting while it lasted.
Posted by celticlioness
tiki is right, lions like to hunt, this one isn't hunting cause if he was you would know it and feel the ease of being hunted - you wouldn't feel confused or need to analyse. He's texting you late at night etc. for a booty call - telling him you're doing your laundry is telling him you have no life and are available whenever he wants you, so now he can see that, the hunt is off for him and he's moved it into chase for booty - hunt is good, the hunter catches what he sees as the big game and for lions its the queen he want to hunt, chase is bad, the chaser catches what he sees as rabbit and squirrels.
Don't engage in text conversation with him, if he initiates it (you don't initiate) answer and end the conversation, you're not available to sit texting for hours to someone you're not in a relationship with - you're doing well so far, i'd back off even more if I was you - allow him to come and get you if he has the maturity and character that he should have, i'm doubting though - 2nd date should have happened already after what appears to have been a lovely first one.
+1
All of what she said and read about that text messaging concept and DO IT, she's right, don't let him see you have no life or he'll figure you are down for whatever since you're bored and available come and f*ck uhm NO.
I love how she differentiated the difference between hunting and chasing, I'll be using that one Celtic and I'll be sure to give you credit for it LOL
"I've learned a lot from everyone in this post but I think the think the best thing I took from it was trust my intuition. Yes, Leo's have characteristics and he's showing me this and telling me that but obviously there is a little voice inside of me telling me something is wrong and that's why I am here. I think it is time to listen to this voice and move along. I wont completely write him out of my life but at the rate this is going I am not doing myself any favors even though we just practically met. Even if he is taking things slow I think I deserve something more than a casual, unplanned, random, no effort late night hang out. Or if he finally figures things out. Yeah he may be keeping it casual but something is just telling me this is off. So until then I am going to stop racking my brain and feelings with this nooonsense. Ill keep everyone updated because I am sure something will pop up."
I get what Rig is saying and there is a lot strength and passion in her words, also love what Celtic brought to it as well.
Follow your gut instincts, it won't fail you, don't make excuses for why he can't do this or that, judge him accordingly, not harshly but objectively and ask yourself this. Is this the way I want to be treated by a man? Also check in with yourself, meaning how is this effecting you emotionally?
If this guy doesn't have a great effect on you, a positive fun happy effect then he's wasting your time. You'll know when a man is into you, he will TRY, he'll try to pin you down for a date, he'll put a lot of effort into making sure you're happy with him, if he's not doing that then he's not that into you move on until he can treat you like you want to be treated.
Don't chase him down for a second date, plan the date so he can have fun, NO NO NO, don't REWARD him with a great date after he clearly hasn't made an effort to plan a great date for the both of you, don't feed into his leo ego by giving him more for his doing hardly nothing.
Until he step correct, forget about him, let him make a better effort b/c he can and he will, he's capable, some men want to see how much you cost, meaning how expensive you are, they wanna see can they get MORE FOR LESS, can I get sex for a night out sitting on my couch type of mentality, so until he step up his game don't make him important b/c he's not important, he hasn't proven nor earned a way into your life.
I get what Rig is saying and there is a lot strength and passion in her words, also love what Celtic brought to it as well.
Follow your gut instincts, it won't fail you, don't make excuses for why he can't do this or that, judge him accordingly, not harshly but objectively and ask yourself this. Is this the way I want to be treated by a man? Also check in with yourself, meaning how is this effecting you emotionally?
If this guy doesn't have a great effect on you, a positive fun happy effect then he's wasting your time. You'll know when a man is into you, he will TRY, he'll try to pin you down for a date, he'll put a lot of effort into making sure you're happy with him, if he's not doing that then he's not that into you move on until he can treat you like you want to be treated.
Don't chase him down for a second date, plan the date so he can have fun, NO NO NO, don't REWARD him with a great date after he clearly hasn't made an effort to plan a great date for the both of you, don't feed into his leo ego by giving him more for his doing hardly nothing.
Until he step correct, forget about him, let him make a better effort b/c he can and he will, he's capable, some men want to see how much you cost, meaning how expensive you are, they wanna see can they get MORE FOR LESS, can I get sex for a night out sitting on my couch type of mentality, so until he step up his game don't make him important b/c he's not important, he hasn't proven nor earned a way into your life.
Posted by rae
R1g0rM0rT1s,
That just sounds like the worse feeling. All that attention and effort and then it just disappears.
It pisses me off that these Leos didn't give such a great scorp the best of themselves. I don't know many scorps, but if most of them are like her, these Leos let go of a real prize.
If this is in reference to r1g0r, I second, third and fourth it.
If it is not... then I demand it to be! 😉
Hope that's not an invasion of privacy. BUT I just thought i'd share. Oops.
ooofs, he's a cutie.
Older guys are usually more calm and less rash. Emphasis on usually. At 18 I dated a 30 yo Latino man - he taught English to Spanish speaking ESLs... man, he was a dream boat...
But what I've noted with older QUALITY male Leos, is that they're usually less dramatic and less rash. Many of the 'negatives' that Leos possess are less prominent, not that we have many 😉 Older Leos that I know have been more loyal in relationships than in their youth of early 20s, but I'd be a fool to state that as fact.
If you want to know how a 'Leo works', you may be better off finding out first hand. Every personal sign makeup has their own traits and you'll honestly do best experiencing it with your own eyes. I see many posts advising you 'not to waste your time', but how else can you effectively learn for yourself if it's worth it? Just be non bias going into it and know what you want...
.. but if you realize that what you want has changed, then that's okay.
Older guys are usually more calm and less rash. Emphasis on usually. At 18 I dated a 30 yo Latino man - he taught English to Spanish speaking ESLs... man, he was a dream boat...
But what I've noted with older QUALITY male Leos, is that they're usually less dramatic and less rash. Many of the 'negatives' that Leos possess are less prominent, not that we have many 😉 Older Leos that I know have been more loyal in relationships than in their youth of early 20s, but I'd be a fool to state that as fact.
If you want to know how a 'Leo works', you may be better off finding out first hand. Every personal sign makeup has their own traits and you'll honestly do best experiencing it with your own eyes. I see many posts advising you 'not to waste your time', but how else can you effectively learn for yourself if it's worth it? Just be non bias going into it and know what you want...
.. but if you realize that what you want has changed, then that's okay.
Posted by seraphPosted by R1g0rM0rT1s
hold on. earlier in the thread you were answering the OP which you pointed out was regarding a leo man, as a leo man. now all of a sudden, it's all about everything else that's in their chart cos i brought up my 'anecdotal' experience.
Yes. Leave the OP out of this. When you brought in your generalizations based on your own bad experiences, you made this about *you.*
my 'generalisation' was that leos go after things they want without thinking of the consequences and i still believe that's true. besides, according to you, this thread was about leo generalisations. i don't know how i made the thread about me by drawing on my experience...isn't that what we're supposed to do when we make comments on here? would you prefer i just randomly draw conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever?? i wasn't distracting from the topic and so you're talking bollocks basically.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
please don't devalue something that i found quite painful to being merely 'anecdotal'.
It doesn't matter how you interpreted it or how you feel about it. That experience still belongs to *you*, and as such, it can't be anything other than anecdotal. That doesn't mean it isn't important, or that it shouldn't be respected, but ultimately, it's still coming from none other than you. And whether your experiences with Leos has coloured your view of them in general, that's for you to come to terms with. Unless you've been in a relationship with hundreds of Leos across all continents.
Look at what is said about a Leo's patterns. Look at what needs to be done to attract a Leo. Look at who Leos generally are. You'll find that your generalizations just don't fit - because they're . . . just too general. And that's not even considering any kind of synastry or planetary influences.
i don't want to look at a leo's patterns or find out how to attract one cos i either attract someone or i don't...i don't work for it!! my experience didn't colour my view of leos in general as i have 4 extremely close leo friends...2 male, 2 females.
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you are getting this scorps stinger in a tizz seraph...ease up on the king of the jungle routine!
Posted by seraphPosted by rae
It pisses me off that these Leos didn't give such a great scorp the best of themselves. I don't know many scorps, but if most of them are like her, these Leos let go of a real prize. I doubt they even came clean about their intentions, and at least then they could have move forward from a position of honesty (though it does take a lot of risk to do be so honest, for anyone, really.) Leos aren't generally super-pumped about allowing the royal robes to fall away. 😢click to expand
omg. classic leo move. my pissed offness with you was completely dissolved by your charm. fuck, i'm pathetic when it comes to lions 😢
one last reference to my anecdotal experience...the reason i was hurt by it was not because of any feelings i had cos i barely knew the guy, it was the lack of honesty...we're grownups and so i don't understand why he felt he had to hide behind texts and string me along when he knew he didn't have to pull his punches. anyway, it wasn't nice but i have finally moved on from it. i think it will always hurt to think about though and i hope that prevents me from making the same mistake again. at least i learn from things and dxp does help that process.
what a lovely thread this turned out to be 😄 (that's an extra cheesy grin btw).
did i miss a pic of the leo in question? guessing he's hot. they are all bestowed with that it seems. the one i was seeing wasn't classicly good looking but for some reason, the way he walked made me go all wobbly in the knee region...he prowled and emanated confidence...knobhead!!
i'll remember forever that sheepish, guilt-ridden expression he had on his face when i saw him unexpectedly after it had all gone tits up and be pleased with the memory that at least on that occasion, i made my displeasure known to him without saying anything apart from, 'i don't want to talk to you'. the fact that i spent a while on my own sobbing my heart out afterwards at least was hidden from him and i maintained dignity on the surface.
i think sometimes women feel we are the only ones who go through these awful relationship dilemnas but guys have their shit to deal with too and a fair share of them get taken through the mill...i guess it's an inevitable fact of life for all of us. the trouble at the beginning of a new relationship is that it takes time to get to the point where you communicate all these fears or insecurities to each other but in the meantime, feelings may be developing and so if these fears or insecurities ultimately finish the relationship when they emerge, it can be pretty devastating.
did i miss a pic of the leo in question? guessing he's hot. they are all bestowed with that it seems. the one i was seeing wasn't classicly good looking but for some reason, the way he walked made me go all wobbly in the knee region...he prowled and emanated confidence...knobhead!!
i'll remember forever that sheepish, guilt-ridden expression he had on his face when i saw him unexpectedly after it had all gone tits up and be pleased with the memory that at least on that occasion, i made my displeasure known to him without saying anything apart from, 'i don't want to talk to you'. the fact that i spent a while on my own sobbing my heart out afterwards at least was hidden from him and i maintained dignity on the surface.
i think sometimes women feel we are the only ones who go through these awful relationship dilemnas but guys have their shit to deal with too and a fair share of them get taken through the mill...i guess it's an inevitable fact of life for all of us. the trouble at the beginning of a new relationship is that it takes time to get to the point where you communicate all these fears or insecurities to each other but in the meantime, feelings may be developing and so if these fears or insecurities ultimately finish the relationship when they emerge, it can be pretty devastating.
Posted by tiki33.
I love how she differentiated the difference between hunting and chasing, I'll be using that one Celtic and I'll be sure to give you credit for it LOL
LOL work away Tiki - I laid that one on the Aries and he huffed right off, truth hurts 🙂
I found this article that just made me have an "ah ha" moment when it comes to the situation a posted about. It talked about raising your standards when dating and lazy communication means for you to move along. I knew it was lazy communication but I didn't want to admit it to myself and I continued to make excuses.
Thought I'd share with everyone and hopefully this helps someone as much as it helped me. Males, tell me if you think this article is true?
http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/raising-your-dating-standards-why-you-shouldnt-be-ok-with-lazy-communication-via-text-email-etc/
Thought I'd share with everyone and hopefully this helps someone as much as it helped me. Males, tell me if you think this article is true?
http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/raising-your-dating-standards-why-you-shouldnt-be-ok-with-lazy-communication-via-text-email-etc/
baggage reclaim is a really cool and informative site 🙂
Posted by rae
I found this article that just made me have an "ah ha" moment when it comes to the situation a posted about. It talked about raising your standards when dating and lazy communication means for you to move along. I knew it was lazy communication but I didn't want to admit it to myself and I continued to make excuses.
Thought I'd share with everyone and hopefully this helps someone as much as it helped me. Males, tell me if you think this article is true?
http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/raising-your-dating-standards-why-you-shouldnt-be-ok-with-lazy-communication-via-text-email-etc/
Well glad you got to the "ah ha" moment 🙂 Sometimes it does take time to see these guys for what they are. Now you go forward into the future armed with great knowledge, wish I'd had it at your age but then I didn't need it because you couldn't do it back in the day as we didn't have the technology!
But.... you really have to fill us in on what happened next... did you two get together, was he as great in bed as you imagined 😉
Its been 3 months.I'm still in the friend zone with my Leo. Why? He treats me like a girlfriend but says we are not boyfriend girlfriend. He says he wants to go with the flow and get to the point we fall in love. He wants no labels on the friendship. He is 39! Help!?!?
as i leo,I do not do one night stands, i pursue slowly and we spend lot of money on the girl once we are 100% sure, we like to spoil them. complement a leo, stroke his ego and we will get everything you want. do switch the place, if hes inviting you over its a big deal, we dont let people into our personal space unless we really like them. leos loved to be loved a one night stand does not fullfill our needs.
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