Did I fuck up already? Halp plz

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Lots of backstory, bear with me here.

Hello, I'm a Capricorn sun/mercury, Pisces moon/mars, Sag venus/pluto person. I'm interested in a Libra sun, Cap moon/mars, Virgo venus girl since last year, and I'm not sure if I completely screwed up at this point.

We first met in school last year, I was too shy to go up to her and talk, but ever since I met her, I have a strong feeling that I've seen her somewhere before (I haven't as it turns out) and I'm really much interested.

So I mustered up my courage and talked to her, finally introducing myself to her with the help of a friend last May. It was mostly awkward conversation, and she prefered talking to her friends than me as I noticed further. She's a 14 year old (now 15) girl that listens to emo bands, and seems to take interest in music, art, swimming, and debates about the mundane world such as news. I'm pretty similar, having played music before I moved to Europe, as well as being in orating clubs before. I'm shy but quite passionate once people know me.

We talked, and soon due to my ego getting hurt as a result from her coldness; as I mentioned she would talk to her friends than to me, and I retreated into cold silence. This went on for a long time. I was so bitter, on her birthday (found out through extensive stalking), I typed a passive aggressive comment to her, wishing her to have a better social life. She responded with "lmao I hope so haha". I didn't talk to her afterwards. At that time, I also tried to distract myself from thinking about her by going for my former Virgo crush, which I posted 2 pictures online with her liking the second one where me and her are the only ones in it.

I was generally being bitter to her throughout the year, throwing a few passive aggressive comments here and there in classes (we shared one class), and being extremely cold and aloof to her.

Fast forwarding to Valentine's day, after talking to a friend and learning how to drop my pride and stop being petty, I sent a yellow rose and card to her that day. Yellow means friendship in this context according to our school. On the same day, I received a supposingly prank card by her name, as if someone's trying to get us together. However, she didn't respond to it but later on that night, when I joined a livestream of her female friend, I was asked if I sent the card to her and if I fancy her. I said no at that time. I sent another message to her asking if she received the card and want to be friends again, which she said thanks and yes. I asked her about the prank card as well, which she said she doesn't know.

In one of those days later on, I attempted to talk to her and break ice hopefully, but she responded with a cold stare and ignoring my messages to break ice, as if to go against my efforts. I stopped talking to her as a result.

Later on, I stopped pursuing my former Virgo crush because she isn't responding to my slow advances, I decided to go for Libra. So basically, after a long while of discussing, I liked and complimented on her picture on instagram, which involves her taking a photo at flowers. She didn't respond.

The next day, which is days ago, she posted a beautiful selfie which I liked and called her slay. Apparently, her female classmates knew about my coming, as if they expected, and started teasing us in the comments, I responded innocently, but I know I did a huge stunt. In school, she never talks to me, always hiding around her friends that didn't comment on the situation at all, though I know one of them is particularly aggressive towards me, as I asked a few questions back at the livestream and she was there and she told me to fuck off.

So my question is, despite all my efforts, good or bad, do I still have a chance?

TL;DR: I'm a Cap sun Pisces moon person intrigued and wanting to pursue a Libra sun Cap moon girl, think I already fucked up with my reckless and impulsive tactics, please give advice.

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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
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I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
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You talk a lot about social media. Make sure you are making real connections in person. Try flirting in person and not only online. If you like a photo refrain from "liking" it online and hold out to compliment them in person and then later like their photos after you've established a real social connection. It's better to make your impressions in person. If you're not in good standing with someone socially then don't do your business online, meaning don't be passive aggressive or try to resolve problems online, it's better to communicate in person.
I tried but she ignores me when around her friends, and she's ALWAYS AROUND her friends. Which is why social media's good because she's always isolated there.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
Most likely yes. Even if she is actually interested, would you be satisfied with this behavior?
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... No, but I expected much more because she's always so warm and kind around her friends.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

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I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
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Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
Most likely yes. Even if she is actually interested, would you be satisfied with this behavior?
... No, but I expected much more because she's always so warm and kind around her friends.
Never go into a romantic interaction hoping for him to change.
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Her in my case, but okay. I'm just jealous of how well she treats all her friends, some she knew less time than me. And thus I believed in change.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
Most likely yes. Even if she is actually interested, would you be satisfied with this behavior?
... No, but I expected much more because she's always so warm and kind around her friends.
Never go into a romantic interaction hoping for him to change.
Her in my case, but okay. I'm just jealous of how well she treats all her friends, some she knew less time than me. And thus I believed in change.
Find someone else.
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My life is sad by itself.

Because so far, she's the only normal person I met and not party girls whom I think I won't get along with because of my iron discipline on certain rules. And she's restricted by her mom who's a teacher as well, so discipline for her too right?

But nope, Saturn has to shit on my love life again.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

----

I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.
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Then use your strong Cap, know your worth. She "could be", but basing a choice in a possibility is quite risky. Is normal to be nice to friends, a good person treats everyone with respect.

Sacrifizing is fine when both do it, always ask to yourself (humbly) if that person is worth of your time. You don't choose loving someone but you can chose saving time and tears. Pisces is a very special sign, with time you'll balance things out.
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Can you post your chart? (Sidereal / krishnamurti or lahiri with equal house system)

You are a young man. Don't give up on your loving/dreamy side! There is a young woman out there for you, but it takes time. Don't change who you are to attract someone. Try to find comfort in yourself.

And, just remember that your brain isn't fully developed in the reasoning area of the brain--the same goes for your peers. Also, the male brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. You have some time to figure things out. Try giving other women a shot, even if you aren't fully interested, it's good to experience and date around, even if it's just friendship based and not intimate.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

----

I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.

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Then use your strong Cap, know your worth. She "could be", but basing a choice in a possibility is quite risky. Is normal to be nice to friends, a good person treats everyone with respect.

Sacrifizing is fine when both do it, always ask to yourself (humbly) if that person is worth of your time. You don't choose loving someone but you can chose saving time and tears. Pisces is a very special sign, with time you'll balance things out.
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Which I have a 1st house there and thus I find myself constantly overconsidering my worth. My rules for myself frequently restrict myself from going for everyone else, since I don't approve of party girls, our personalities would definitely clash and I would be restricting most likely.

Therefore I might have placed too much faith on a teacher's daughter. I expect discipline and manners from her, not treating me like crap. I hoped it would change, but it seems like it wouldn't.

I often fall in love with love itself, and I can't distinguish whether that person is worth my time because I'm always blinded with lust, blinded by the fact that my potential partner can just be there so there would be no more envy towards my classmates and I would have finished a huge milestone in my life. I hope I can balance things out in the future though, Pisces is the oldest sign of all and contains knowledge from the ethereal state.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
Most likely yes. Even if she is actually interested, would you be satisfied with this behavior?
... No, but I expected much more because she's always so warm and kind around her friends.
Never go into a romantic interaction hoping for him to change.
Her in my case, but okay. I'm just jealous of how well she treats all her friends, some she knew less time than me. And thus I believed in change.
Find someone else.
My life is sad by itself.

Because so far, she's the only normal person I met and not party girls whom I think I won't get along with because of my iron discipline on certain rules. And she's restricted by her mom who's a teacher as well, so discipline for her too right?

But nope, Saturn has to shit on my love life again.

Do you have saturn in your 7th?

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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

----

I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.

----

Then use your strong Cap, know your worth. She "could be", but basing a choice in a possibility is quite risky. Is normal to be nice to friends, a good person treats everyone with respect.

Sacrifizing is fine when both do it, always ask to yourself (humbly) if that person is worth of your time. You don't choose loving someone but you can chose saving time and tears. Pisces is a very special sign, with time you'll balance things out.
Which I have a 1st house there and thus I find myself constantly overconsidering my worth. My rules for myself frequently restrict myself from going for everyone else, since I don't approve of party girls, our personalities would definitely clash and I would be restricting most likely.

Therefore I might have placed too much faith on a teacher's daughter. I expect discipline and manners from her, not treating me like crap. I hoped it would change, but it seems like it wouldn't.

I often fall in love with love itself, and I can't distinguish whether that person is worth my time because I'm always blinded with lust, blinded by the fact that my potential partner can just be there so there would be no more envy towards my classmates and I would have finished a huge milestone in my life. I hope I can balance things out in the future though, Pisces is the oldest sign of all and contains knowledge from the ethereal state.
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I think you rely too much on titles, "a teacher's daughter", one feature doesn't define a person. I'd tell you to put aside previous judgements, I'm Saturnian and I am/was very picky but many people have surprised me.

Well, envy doesn't go away achieving things, you must fight it. Yes, that's Pisces' struggle. Good luck!
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Can you post your chart? (Sidereal / krishnamurti or lahiri with equal house system)

You are a young man. Don't give up on your loving/dreamy side! There is a young woman out there for you, but it takes time. Don't change who you are to attract someone. Try to find comfort in yourself.

And, just remember that your brain isn't fully developed in the reasoning area of the brain--the same goes for your peers. Also, the male brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. You have some time to figure things out. Try giving other women a shot, even if you aren't fully interested, it's good to experience and date around, even if it's just friendship based and not intimate.
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One thing I've noticed is your Saturn is stationary, which makes it a stronger influence. The second placement I noticed was that Chiron conjuncts your Venus. Your Chiron is in the middle of Venus and Pluto. That placement will be hard for relationships in your younger years, but it will give you the insight and wisdom you need in your later relationships. Your mercury in 1H is good, a lot of people who are intelligent have this placement.

I think the takeaway is you're overly emotional and you're afraid of rejection. The problem is that you need these experiences to grow, so just put yourself out there. The sooner the better, you'll grow up fast this way. Just be wary of being a victim of abuse, whether it's emotional or physical, I am only saying this because you may choose relationships where you don't have a lot of power.
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So basically I have little chance to date while most of my peers get to date because Chiron is just sitting right in the middle of Venus and Pluto?

Also yes, I agree. I play to win so to speak, due to the high competitiveness of 1st house and Cap placements, but even then my standards remain high because I want the first relationship to be good for me, therefore I couldn't allow myself to be too vulnerable. I hate being a laughing stock. And as for the abuse part, I'm fine. Mars square Pluto mean that I'm a violent person full of power, and my Pluto aspects allow me to compete for absolute power even in relationships. My dominant side doesn't show unless its needed as I see it.
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?
Most likely yes. Even if she is actually interested, would you be satisfied with this behavior?
... No, but I expected much more because she's always so warm and kind around her friends.
Never go into a romantic interaction hoping for him to change.
Her in my case, but okay. I'm just jealous of how well she treats all her friends, some she knew less time than me. And thus I believed in change.
Find someone else.
My life is sad by itself.

Because so far, she's the only normal person I met and not party girls whom I think I won't get along with because of my iron discipline on certain rules. And she's restricted by her mom who's a teacher as well, so discipline for her too right?

But nope, Saturn has to shit on my love life again.

Do you have saturn in your 7th?


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Either way you're probably going to feel blocked. But ultimately you'll be fine. It'll get better as you get older.
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I just want a decent girlfriend, why is it so hard ?
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

----

I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.

----

Then use your strong Cap, know your worth. She "could be", but basing a choice in a possibility is quite risky. Is normal to be nice to friends, a good person treats everyone with respect.

Sacrifizing is fine when both do it, always ask to yourself (humbly) if that person is worth of your time. You don't choose loving someone but you can chose saving time and tears. Pisces is a very special sign, with time you'll balance things out.
Which I have a 1st house there and thus I find myself constantly overconsidering my worth. My rules for myself frequently restrict myself from going for everyone else, since I don't approve of party girls, our personalities would definitely clash and I would be restricting most likely.

Therefore I might have placed too much faith on a teacher's daughter. I expect discipline and manners from her, not treating me like crap. I hoped it would change, but it seems like it wouldn't.

I often fall in love with love itself, and I can't distinguish whether that person is worth my time because I'm always blinded with lust, blinded by the fact that my potential partner can just be there so there would be no more envy towards my classmates and I would have finished a huge milestone in my life. I hope I can balance things out in the future though, Pisces is the oldest sign of all and contains knowledge from the ethereal state.

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I think you rely too much on titles, "a teacher's daughter", one feature doesn't define a person. I'd tell you to put aside previous judgements, I'm Saturnian and I am/was very picky but many people have surprised me.

Well, envy doesn't go away achieving things, you must fight it. Yes, that's Pisces' struggle. Good luck!

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I believe titles serve some form of purpose. Because as they say, like mother/father like daughter/son, so I assume this person must be rather disciplined especially with her placements which involve Mars being in her 4th house, conjuncting Moon and Imun Coeli or however you spell it. But I'll try. I'm Mercurian but Saturn stands at a close 4th most dominant planet for me, and I wish to be surprised just like you did. 🙂

When envy is present, my pluto energy as a result of mars squaring it leaps into action and I start being aggressive and hasty when it comes to decision making, maybe that's the reason of my downfall as well. I'm trying to fight it though, also thank you again 🙂
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Agree with Shadowcat, also, you haven't fucked up anything, you don't have to fight for someone and stand her rejections. If she's interested she'd have let you know (even with hints), if not, leave her alone.

You'll find someone with whom things come naturally.
It's not due to her aloofness then, but genuine uninterest?

----

I think is uninterest - mainly because of her reactions and her aggressive friend, but I don't know her to be sure-, what makes things easier because if someone who has interest in you treats you like that, she isn't worth of your attention. Imagine how would she treat you during the relationship.

I think pride is necessary. The right dose.
Maybe my Pisces moon/mars is too used to abuse like this and decided to live with it 😢 I don't know anymore, she seems so nice around her friends and I have possibility in her, that one day all my sacrifices will not come to waste and she will be that radiant person I see.

But I guess the brain trumps over the heart again. Damn it all.

----

Then use your strong Cap, know your worth. She "could be", but basing a choice in a possibility is quite risky. Is normal to be nice to friends, a good person treats everyone with respect.

Sacrifizing is fine when both do it, always ask to yourself (humbly) if that person is worth of your time. You don't choose loving someone but you can chose saving time and tears. Pisces is a very special sign, with time you'll balance things out.
Which I have a 1st house there and thus I find myself constantly overconsidering my worth. My rules for myself frequently restrict myself from going for everyone else, since I don't approve of party girls, our personalities would definitely clash and I would be restricting most likely.

Therefore I might have placed too much faith on a teacher's daughter. I expect discipline and manners from her, not treating me like crap. I hoped it would change, but it seems like it wouldn't.

I often fall in love with love itself, and I can't distinguish whether that person is worth my time because I'm always blinded with lust, blinded by the fact that my potential partner can just be there so there would be no more envy towards my classmates and I would have finished a huge milestone in my life. I hope I can balance things out in the future though, Pisces is the oldest sign of all and contains knowledge from the ethereal state.

----

I think you rely too much on titles, "a teacher's daughter", one feature doesn't define a person. I'd tell you to put aside previous judgements, I'm Saturnian and I am/was very picky but many people have surprised me.

Well, envy doesn't go away achieving things, you must fight it. Yes, that's Pisces' struggle. Good luck!


I believe titles serve some form of purpose. Because as they say, like mother/father like daughter/son, so I assume this person must be rather disciplined especially with her placements which involve Mars being in her 4th house, conjuncting Moon and Imun Coeli or however you spell it. But I'll try. I'm Mercurian but Saturn stands at a close 4th most dominant planet for me, and I wish to be surprised just like you did. 🙂

When envy is present, my pluto energy as a result of mars squaring it leaps into action and I start being aggressive and hasty when it comes to decision making, maybe that's the reason of my downfall as well. I'm trying to fight it though, also thank you again 🙂

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I have that placement (Mars conjunct IC) and if something, it makes me shy and protective, Tiziani told me the 4th house also means survival. You'll be, life is surprising.

You are welcome : )

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I meant she has Mars conjunct IC in the 4th house, not me :X
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Can you post your chart? (Sidereal / krishnamurti or lahiri with equal house system)

You are a young man. Don't give up on your loving/dreamy side! There is a young woman out there for you, but it takes time. Don't change who you are to attract someone. Try to find comfort in yourself.

And, just remember that your brain isn't fully developed in the reasoning area of the brain--the same goes for your peers. Also, the male brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. You have some time to figure things out. Try giving other women a shot, even if you aren't fully interested, it's good to experience and date around, even if it's just friendship based and not intimate.
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One thing I've noticed is your Saturn is stationary, which makes it a stronger influence. The second placement I noticed was that Chiron conjuncts your Venus. Your Chiron is in the middle of Venus and Pluto. That placement will be hard for relationships in your younger years, but it will give you the insight and wisdom you need in your later relationships. Your mercury in 1H is good, a lot of people who are intelligent have this placement.

I think the takeaway is you're overly emotional and you're afraid of rejection. The problem is that you need these experiences to grow, so just put yourself out there. The sooner the better, you'll grow up fast this way. Just be wary of being a victim of abuse, whether it's emotional or physical, I am only saying this because you may choose relationships where you don't have a lot of power.
So basically I have little chance to date while most of my peers get to date because Chiron is just sitting right in the middle of Venus and Pluto?

Also yes, I agree. I play to win so to speak, due to the high competitiveness of 1st house and Cap placements, but even then my standards remain high because I want the first relationship to be good for me, therefore I couldn't allow myself to be too vulnerable. I hate being a laughing stock. And as for the abuse part, I'm fine. Mars square Pluto mean that I'm a violent person full of power, and my Pluto aspects allow me to compete for absolute power even in relationships. My dominant side doesn't show unless its needed as I see it.
You have plenty of chances. It just requires you to accept the possibility of failure and rejection and putting yourself out there. You will have to forget your ego and just date. It's the only way you'll gain experience and grow. It's rare that people see that the 1st relationship was a good one. It usually ends with unresolved issues. People don't realize the growth and rewards that occurred until some time after the relationship and for some people they never realize it.

Also, planets just influence us they don't control us. You have free will and choice. Just because the stars say 1 thing doesn't mean that it's final or completely true.

Btw, I like your outlook on relationships. Being serious and wanting to have a good relationship is good for long term partners. It's probably not helpful in your younger years, but don't change your outlook. It'll help you in the long run.

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So it's probably gonna hurt. Okay. I get that. But so far, I haven't even got past the basic small talk stage. I get really fidgety and nervous and awkward around girls, it's as if all the courage I have as a Capricorn suddenly disappeared into thin air. Although its rare, I would still like it to be the best one, since it's the first things that count; first kisses, first year anniversaries, first fights, first tears, everything. It's beautiful and thus it's extremely important to make it the best to my abilities. But I get your point.

I find myself attracted to people accordingly to what astrology suggests, people that are in sextile, trine, conjunct or opposite my sun and moon are people I usually connect to, which gives me a really fuzzy feeling and letting me believe that believing in destiny and fate really works, as that's what stars do, guiding our destiny and fate.

Thank you 🙂 It means a lot when I'm the one who, despite never dated anyone yet, has a better outlook and ambition towards relationships unlike my peers who don't even know what commitment is because none of them even went to that stage or heard of it. I'm still waiting for my soulmate to come by, who is probably singing to the stars, silently believing that there is someone as perfect as the person in her dreams, and vice versa on my side.
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You talk a lot about social media. Make sure you are making real connections in person. Try flirting in person and not only online. If you like a photo refrain from "liking" it online and hold out to compliment them in person and then later like their photos after you've established a real social connection. It's better to make your impressions in person. If you're not in good standing with someone socially then don't do your business online, meaning don't be passive aggressive or try to resolve problems online, it's better to communicate in person.
I tried but she ignores me when around her friends, and she's ALWAYS AROUND her friends. Which is why social media's good because she's always isolated there.

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I try to put myself in other people's shoes when I leave comments as of recently. I know that if I like somebody and other people are telling me that that person isn't interested it's really disheartening. It sucks to have affections that are unrequited. Sometimes writing out or typing out a question or situation on this forum helps to gain your own Clarity and to adopt a perspective that seems clear. Did you come up with your own Clarity after writing out the situation that seems conducive for you?
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Can you post your chart? (Sidereal / krishnamurti or lahiri with equal house system)

You are a young man. Don't give up on your loving/dreamy side! There is a young woman out there for you, but it takes time. Don't change who you are to attract someone. Try to find comfort in yourself.

And, just remember that your brain isn't fully developed in the reasoning area of the brain--the same goes for your peers. Also, the male brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. You have some time to figure things out. Try giving other women a shot, even if you aren't fully interested, it's good to experience and date around, even if it's just friendship based and not intimate.
https://postimg.org/image/e6wgvphyb/
One thing I've noticed is your Saturn is stationary, which makes it a stronger influence. The second placement I noticed was that Chiron conjuncts your Venus. Your Chiron is in the middle of Venus and Pluto. That placement will be hard for relationships in your younger years, but it will give you the insight and wisdom you need in your later relationships. Your mercury in 1H is good, a lot of people who are intelligent have this placement.

I think the takeaway is you're overly emotional and you're afraid of rejection. The problem is that you need these experiences to grow, so just put yourself out there. The sooner the better, you'll grow up fast this way. Just be wary of being a victim of abuse, whether it's emotional or physical, I am only saying this because you may choose relationships where you don't have a lot of power.
So basically I have little chance to date while most of my peers get to date because Chiron is just sitting right in the middle of Venus and Pluto?

Also yes, I agree. I play to win so to speak, due to the high competitiveness of 1st house and Cap placements, but even then my standards remain high because I want the first relationship to be good for me, therefore I couldn't allow myself to be too vulnerable. I hate being a laughing stock. And as for the abuse part, I'm fine. Mars square Pluto mean that I'm a violent person full of power, and my Pluto aspects allow me to compete for absolute power even in relationships. My dominant side doesn't show unless its needed as I see it.
You have plenty of chances. It just requires you to accept the possibility of failure and rejection and putting yourself out there. You will have to forget your ego and just date. It's the only way you'll gain experience and grow. It's rare that people see that the 1st relationship was a good one. It usually ends with unresolved issues. People don't realize the growth and rewards that occurred until some time after the relationship and for some people they never realize it.

Also, planets just influence us they don't control us. You have free will and choice. Just because the stars say 1 thing doesn't mean that it's final or completely true.

Btw, I like your outlook on relationships. Being serious and wanting to have a good relationship is good for long term partners. It's probably not helpful in your younger years, but don't change your outlook. It'll help you in the long run.


So it's probably gonna hurt. Okay. I get that. But so far, I haven't even got past the basic small talk stage. I get really fidgety and nervous and awkward around girls, it's as if all the courage I have as a Capricorn suddenly disappeared into thin air. Although its rare, I would still like it to be the best one, since it's the first things that count; first kisses, first year anniversaries, first fights, first tears, everything. It's beautiful and thus it's extremely important to make it the best to my abilities. But I get your point.

I find myself attracted to people accordingly to what astrology suggests, people that are in sextile, trine, conjunct or opposite my sun and moon are people I usually connect to, which gives me a really fuzzy feeling and letting me believe that believing in destiny and fate really works, as that's what stars do, guiding our destiny and fate.

Thank you 🙂 It means a lot when I'm the one who, despite never dated anyone yet, has a better outlook and ambition towards relationships unlike my peers who don't even know what commitment is because none of them even went to that stage or heard of it. I'm still waiting for my soulmate to come by, who is probably singing to the stars, silently believing that there is someone as perfect as the person in her dreams, and vice versa on my side.

Awww

That's the sweetest thing ever, reminded me of someone?

I agree with Lush... Don't force it to happen. But don't give up your core values.

I will text you later. I'm about to sleep. I haven't read most of my PMs that require time to reply.

Will get to you soon

*hugs*

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If sweetness is rewarded with easy flirts, I would have already got a bunch of girlfriends. But it doesn't. 😢

It's sometimes disheartening to wait, you know? I want to stop failing and just succeed, but I can't.

I'll wait 🙂
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You talk a lot about social media. Make sure you are making real connections in person. Try flirting in person and not only online. If you like a photo refrain from "liking" it online and hold out to compliment them in person and then later like their photos after you've established a real social connection. It's better to make your impressions in person. If you're not in good standing with someone socially then don't do your business online, meaning don't be passive aggressive or try to resolve problems online, it's better to communicate in person.
I tried but she ignores me when around her friends, and she's ALWAYS AROUND her friends. Which is why social media's good because she's always isolated there.



I try to put myself in other people's shoes when I leave comments as of recently. I know that if I like somebody and other people are telling me that that person isn't interested it's really disheartening. It sucks to have affections that are unrequited. Sometimes writing out or typing out a question or situation on this forum helps to gain your own Clarity and to adopt a perspective that seems clear. Did you come up with your own Clarity after writing out the situation that seems conducive for you?
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Sag Venus really helps reducing the pain of rejection, but everything has a limit.

I give up on her to be honest for now, I don't know what to do otherwise since she shows no interest, is always around her friends, and I know, although I didn't have hard evidence yet, that her two best friends detested me and wanted me to stay away.

And I'll do so for now.
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You talk a lot about social media. Make sure you are making real connections in person. Try flirting in person and not only online. If you like a photo refrain from "liking" it online and hold out to compliment them in person and then later like their photos after you've established a real social connection. It's better to make your impressions in person. If you're not in good standing with someone socially then don't do your business online, meaning don't be passive aggressive or try to resolve problems online, it's better to communicate in person.
I tried but she ignores me when around her friends, and she's ALWAYS AROUND her friends. Which is why social media's good because she's always isolated there.



I try to put myself in other people's shoes when I leave comments as of recently. I know that if I like somebody and other people are telling me that that person isn't interested it's really disheartening. It sucks to have affections that are unrequited. Sometimes writing out or typing out a question or situation on this forum helps to gain your own Clarity and to adopt a perspective that seems clear. Did you come up with your own Clarity after writing out the situation that seems conducive for you?
Sag Venus really helps reducing the pain of rejection, but everything has a limit.

I give up on her to be honest for now, I don't know what to do otherwise since she shows no interest, is always around her friends, and I know, although I didn't have hard evidence yet, that her two best friends detested me and wanted me to stay away.

And I'll do so for now.
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oh okay.