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So I met this 24 year old libra male online. We chatted for a couple days about school and stuff until he asked for my number. Everything was great, he's incredibly sweet & polite and tells me that he hopes I had the best day ever. Like everyday. While he worked, he'd text me saying hi for a bit and ask for selfies, then he'd tell me when his break was over and text me back later. I never initiated contact.

Sometimes our conversations would get a bit sexual... but this continued for about a week. He wanted to know beforehand if I'd consider meeting him as we got to know each other, so I said of course I would. I put him off for a day when he tried to see me, but ended up going to his place... which was a mistake. I was the one who was hesitant to have sex and explained to him that I didn't wanna do it because I'm sensitive and easily attached to people. He says that he gets it and that he has to actually like a person to even wanna get physical with them. He says he thinks I'm funny and interesting and all that.

So fast forward, when I see him of course we end up having sex. He was really sweet and we cuddled and everything, but he sort of got upset when I wanted to have sex again? Sorry if TMI, but he didn't really last long, afterwards he said he was disappointed and that we should "totally try again later." So when I tried to initiate it... he told me that 1. He wasn't gonna get hard again, although it had nothing to do with me 2. He's not in love with me since we just met — (I told him I'm not in love with him either) 3. Now that we had sex he sort of regrets it because he wants me to like him. I don't understand. I never tried to make him feel bad for finishing early, didn't laugh at him or anything. I don't know if he's embarrassed or what. He's been distant since this happened.

After he dropped me off, he text at about 4 in the morning. He said he had a really nice time meeting me and that he hoped I had an okay night. I replied, thanked him and said I had a really nice night too. So he didn't text me all day. He contacted me the next day and apologized again, claiming he was "kinda sick and busy" but wanted to get back to me. He said he was still down to talk sometime if I wanted, apologized for the weirdness and said he could explain more later. I said "Hello. Okay, sure. It's fine. Hope you feel better" 🙂 I was upset and trying to play it cool. Again he doesn't respond all day, at this point I'm convinced he's pulling a disappearing act because he got what he wanted and that was that. So sent him a text asking what happened and if I said or did anything to upset him. He says no and that it was clearly him, he's just been emotional lately. I said I understand because I am too, then asked if he's sure that's all there is to it. He said yes and that he "actually really enjoyed our time together." I reply and say I did too, then he sends something about my body being sexy. I reply, again no response all day.
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What do you mean "Of course we had sex." Not all women give it up so fast. Those of us who don't are the ones men respect, pursue and marry. Men don't want to a make an "easy" lay their woman; didn't you know that when you gave it up?

It's cool, but usually when women have sex fast with a guy they have come to terms with the fact that "this is just going to be a good time."

If you want to be serious with a man, make sure he wants the same thing, and don't sleep with him too fast. Obey the 90 days rule. Within 90-days you will see who he really is, and what he really wants. But he sees you as a loose woman who will give it up too easily. HE got what he wanted and baby-girl this is a wrap. He's not pulling a disappearing act, he has disappeared, until the next time he wants to have sex.
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I agree w what Librawoman said. You have to make your worth known. If you want a relationship you should have waited to fvck because how are you gunna expect a relationship from someone you don't even know? For all you know you two could be super incompatible.

If you're just looking for fun that's fine. But clearly you are not so the golden rule is 3 months girl. I met this guy and we dated for a month, we had sooooooooooooooo much in common, and he would have been the perfect bf but it turned out our morals compasses did not align! I'm not gunna date someone like that so I cut it off and the o my way I figured that out was by JUST getting to know him. No fucking.

Especially if you get attached the way you say you do, big no no. Why submit yourself to getting attached to a person who you don't even know!!!
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Well you are 21, very young, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But usually if you are going to a man's place, it's an indication that you are ready to bone. Why on earth are you surprised he's not responding to you anymore? You let a stranger come inside of your body without commitment, without him working for it, and proving himself to you.

As yes I agree with the 3 month golden rule too. I kicked it with an Aquarius who for the first month acted like he was so in love. I really wanted to sleep with him too, and I will admit if God had not intervened, I would have! Within month two I started seeing him for who he really was; a dog! A lying, broke, two-timing dog, who had nothing to offer but dialogue. By the third month I was soo happy I did not give him my body because he wasn't worthy of it.
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Posted by Librawoman77
What do you mean "Of course we had sex." Not all women give it up so fast. Those of us who don't are the ones men respect, pursue and marry. Men don't want to a make an "easy" lay their woman; didn't you know that when you gave it up?

It's cool, but usually when women have sex fast with a guy they have come to terms with the fact that "this is just going to be a good time."

If you want to be serious with a man, make sure he wants the same thing, and don't sleep with him too fast. Obey the 90 days rule. Within 90-days you will see who he really is, and what he really wants. But he sees you as a loose woman who will give it up too easily. HE got what he wanted and baby-girl this is a wrap. He's not pulling a disappearing act, he has disappeared, until the next time he wants to have sex.
LOL, girl bye. I appreciate your honesty but I don't agree with you. He has told me that he's very sex positive and doesn't believe in judging grown adults for having sex, as you seem to. I do not believe in the concept of a "loose woman." You can wait 90 days or a year to have sex, it could still be the only thing he wanted. So what then?
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I agree w what Librawoman said. You have to make your worth known. If you want a relationship you should have waited to fvck because how are you gunna expect a relationship from someone you don't even know? For all you know you two could be super incompatible.

If you're just looking for fun that's fine. But clearly you are not so the golden rule is 3 months girl. I met this guy and we dated for a month, we had sooooooooooooooo much in common, and he would have been the perfect bf but it turned out our morals compasses did not align! I'm not gunna date someone like that so I cut it off and the o my way I figured that out was by JUST getting to know him. No fucking.

Especially if you get attached the way you say you do, big no no. Why submit yourself to getting attached to a person who you don't even know!!!
I'm not expecting a relationship right now, but I am expecting more than a friends with benefits type of situation, so I understand what you're saying. I shouldn't have sex if I know the man isn't committed and that I'll get attached... but I also don't wanna be with someone if the decision to have sex (a choice they ALSO made) makes them feel like I'm not worth it.
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Well you are 21, very young, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But usually if you are going to a man's place, it's an indication that you are ready to bone. Why on earth are you surprised he's not responding to you anymore? You let a stranger come inside of your body without commitment, without him working for it, and proving himself to you.

As yes I agree with the 3 month golden rule too. I kicked it with an Aquarius who for the first month acted like he was so in love. I really wanted to sleep with him too, and I will admit if God had not intervened, I would have! Within month two I started seeing him for who he really was; a dog! A lying, broke, two-timing dog, who had nothing to offer but dialogue. By the third month I was soo happy I did not give him my body because he wasn't worthy of it.
Amen sister
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What do you mean "Of course we had sex." Not all women give it up so fast. Those of us who don't are the ones men respect, pursue and marry. Men don't want to a make an "easy" lay their woman; didn't you know that when you gave it up?

It's cool, but usually when women have sex fast with a guy they have come to terms with the fact that "this is just going to be a good time."

If you want to be serious with a man, make sure he wants the same thing, and don't sleep with him too fast. Obey the 90 days rule. Within 90-days you will see who he really is, and what he really wants. But he sees you as a loose woman who will give it up too easily. HE got what he wanted and baby-girl this is a wrap. He's not pulling a disappearing act, he has disappeared, until the next time he wants to have sex.
LOL, girl bye. I appreciate your honesty but I don't agree with you. He has told me that he's very sex positive and doesn't believe in judging grown adults for having sex, as you seem to. I do not believe in the concept of a "loose woman." You can wait 90 days or a year to have sex, it could still be the only thing he wanted. So what then?
Indeed, glad to see you've got a head on your shoulders.

What is the all texting/ no initiating thing about? Has that approach worked for you in the past?
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Not really. I don't have much dating experience really, but he was always the first to get in touch so I just kinda went with it.
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I agree w what Librawoman said. You have to make your worth known. If you want a relationship you should have waited to fvck because how are you gunna expect a relationship from someone you don't even know? For all you know you two could be super incompatible.

If you're just looking for fun that's fine. But clearly you are not so the golden rule is 3 months girl. I met this guy and we dated for a month, we had sooooooooooooooo much in common, and he would have been the perfect bf but it turned out our morals compasses did not align! I'm not gunna date someone like that so I cut it off and the o my way I figured that out was by JUST getting to know him. No fucking.

Especially if you get attached the way you say you do, big no no. Why submit yourself to getting attached to a person who you don't even know!!!
I'm not expecting a relationship right now, but I am expecting more than a friends with benefits type of situation, so I understand what you're saying. I shouldn't have sex if I know the man isn't committed and that I'll get attached... but I also don't wanna be with someone if the decision to have sex (a choice they ALSO made) makes them feel like I'm not worth it.
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You're young & should be out having (safe) fun & experiencing life in order to get to know yourself better. ‰ Don't let us damper your spirit lol. You do you, & take our advice w a grain of salt, but remember to always take lessons from your encounters.

Anyway..As for what you want, not quite a relationship but not quite a fvck buddy? You sound confused... Or maybe I am, tell me is there another "in between" option that we are failing to recognize?

And as you grow older you'll hear this more often when it comes to men (and people in general but in this case men) they have DOUBLE STANDARDS. They will tell a woman anything to get their peepees wet. Remember that. It's up to you where you draw the line & how desperate or not you are for the ðŸ†. ‰ I'm sure you're fully aware of this but I'll reiterate in case not but... If you fuck on the first few nights before anything has been talked about you can't have any expectations.
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In the end people appreciate & respect what they work for.
I don't want a relationship based on all these requirements like waiting however long to have sex. A man who tries repeatedly to have sex early on has no business deeming a woman to be unworthy while he's doing the exact same thing. If he does, he needs to stay far away from me because he's obviously got some issues. And this isn't always true anyway?? There are so many girls who wait to have sex yet still get cheated on, lied to and disrespected.
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I agree w what Librawoman said. You have to make your worth known. If you want a relationship you should have waited to fvck because how are you gunna expect a relationship from someone you don't even know? For all you know you two could be super incompatible.

If you're just looking for fun that's fine. But clearly you are not so the golden rule is 3 months girl. I met this guy and we dated for a month, we had sooooooooooooooo much in common, and he would have been the perfect bf but it turned out our morals compasses did not align! I'm not gunna date someone like that so I cut it off and the o my way I figured that out was by JUST getting to know him. No fucking.

Especially if you get attached the way you say you do, big no no. Why submit yourself to getting attached to a person who you don't even know!!!
I'm not expecting a relationship right now, but I am expecting more than a friends with benefits type of situation, so I understand what you're saying. I shouldn't have sex if I know the man isn't committed and that I'll get attached... but I also don't wanna be with someone if the decision to have sex (a choice they ALSO made) makes them feel like I'm not worth it.
You're young & should be out having (safe) fun & experiencing life in order to get to know yourself better. ‰ Don't let us damper your spirit lol. You do you, & take our advice w a grain of salt, but remember to always take lessons from your encounters.

Anyway..As for what you want, not quite a relationship but not quite a fvck buddy? You sound confused... Or maybe I am, tell me is there another "in between" option that we are failing to recognize?

And as you grow older you'll hear this more often when it comes to men (and people in general but in this case men) they have DOUBLE STANDARDS. They will tell a woman anything to get their peepees wet. Remember that. It's up to you where you draw the line & how desperate or not you are for the ðŸ†. ‰ I'm sure you're fully aware of this but I'll reiterate in case not but... If you fuck on the first few nights before anything has been talked about you can't have any expectations.
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No, I'm not confused. What I want is a relationship, but I want to set the foundation for one first instead of jumping into it, and date and get to know the person. But thank you for the advice, lol. I'm not desperate for the D, I guess I just need to stop putting myself in these situations and learn to say no.
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In the end people appreciate & respect what they work for.
I don't want a relationship based on all these requirements like waiting however long to have sex. A man who tries repeatedly to have sex early on has no business deeming a woman to be unworthy while he's doing the exact same thing. If he does, he needs to stay far away from me because he's obviously got some issues. And this isn't always true anyway?? There are so many girls who wait to have sex yet still get cheated on, lied to and disrespected.

No, I'm not confused. What I want is a relationship, but I want to set the foundation for one first instead of jumping into it, and date and get to know the person. But thank you for the advice, lol. I'm not desperate for the D, I guess I just need to stop putting myself in these situations and learn to say no.
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See, you have written a reflective statement in that last part Š. You have answered your own question.
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Read that last paragraph to yourself over and over again, you have standards you just don't know how to go about enforcing them.

Men will go through women like they go through toilet paper, without a second thought and down the toilet it goes.... Unless you give them a motive not to, a challenge, perhaps that means a real soul connection first. Men aren't all that bad, they're quite simple creatures really, it's just that women give them leeway & then get butt hurt about it when things don't pan out the way they had hoped.

Know the way a males mind works and be a few steps ahead ‰
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You don't have to wait however many days, everyone is different.. sometimes when the bond is out of this world (because of commonalities, deep intellectual convos, beliefs aligning, similar upbringing, insert cheesy romantic movie stuff here lol etc) then 90 days will seem impossible, lol. But if you want a relationship I would recommend you build a friendship/soul bond, draw a line, and see how if he respects you as a person and not as a sexual object first.

Just my two cents. Chances are you will ignore our advice & will have to learn these things at your own expense but either way you asked for advice (us reiterating what you already know to be true) so in the end you do you boo ‰
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In the end people appreciate & respect what they work for.
I don't want a relationship based on all these requirements like waiting however long to have sex. A man who tries repeatedly to have sex early on has no business deeming a woman to be unworthy while he's doing the exact same thing. If he does, he needs to stay far away from me because he's obviously got some issues. And this isn't always true anyway?? There are so many girls who wait to have sex yet still get cheated on, lied to and disrespected.
But you haven't even made it to a relationship to get dumped, cheated or lied on. You were dropped early on and you are still bent out of shape.

I agree with the other women treat your body, heart and mind like a temple. I wouldn't say 90 days I don't have a number but for me it's a ring, cuz I'm just that bad but for each it's own. I have other priorities in my life so I'm not looking to get laid by a looser. But trust and believe there are a lot of men that would give you that ring.
But you are young so it's either take what you get, deal with it and move on. Or be patient and protect your emotions because he will not be the last that treats you like this.
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I know, but my point is that it happens to all women. And there is no "still" because this just started happening. I'm allowed to be upset. Last time I checked, being a woman who has sex doesn't mean I shouldn't be treated like a human being... and again I don't want to be with a man who doesn't understand that. But this just doesn't seem like him, what he's shown me is a positive and caring person so it is a bit shocking to me.
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You don't have to wait however many days, everyone is different.. sometimes when the bond is out of this world (because of commonalities, deep intellectual convos, beliefs aligning, similar upbringing, insert cheesy romantic movie stuff here lol etc) then 90 days will seem impossible, lol. But if you want a relationship I would recommend you build a friendship/soul bond, draw a line, and see how if he respects you as a person and not as a sexual object first.

Just my two cents. Chances are you will ignore our advice & will have to learn these things at your own expense but either way you asked for advice (us reiterating what you already know to be true) so in the end you do you boo ‰
But I wasn't necessarily asking for advice with relationships in general, nor was I asking for people to come out and shame me about something that already happened, which is out of my control now ž (not saying you did) I was asking what to do with regards to situation in particular.
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Forget the way a man's mind works. You're not a man so you will never truly know, and you seem to be very comfortable with that, trying to figure out how a man thinks will only take time out of your life from focusing on what you want.

don't let these people talk down to you like you're some kind of helpless victim.

You got into this situation and you know what you want out of it. Either he will turn out to just a shy and inconsistent but genuine in his bullshit, or he will turn out to be a malicious bullshitter. Either way, when you're getting to know someone in romance, you are going to have to get to know their bullshit at first too. Just hope it's the first kind, not the second.

And if you learnt that you need to learn to say no or not go over to someone's place then either way you took something out of the experience.

Forget these people who want to subliminally talk down to you like you're trash. You made your decisions, be proud of the ones you enjoyed and let the other ones go. Believe it or not, there are genuinely laid back guys out there around your age that can handle your approach, but sex does always inevitably change things... sometimes for good, sometimes for worse. Timing has nothing to do with it, as you well know.
You're right. I'll never understand men. That's why I'm saying I don't wanna have to follow all these rules in order to keep a guy. I want him to want to be with me because he wants to be with me. Without mind games and weird expectations. If he doesn't then nothing could make him stay, sex or no sex. I'll just have to remember that when I feel like I can't stand to not have him in my life.
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🙄 nobody is talking down to anyone. We are genuinely trying to help her find a solution otherwise we wouldn't be here.

The fact that you're talking shit about others opinions like that shows a lot about you. We have all lived through similar experiences as women and we can only speak from our experiences so for you to say that your advice is better is the only bullshit I see in this thread.

You made valid points. Some I agree with and others I do not, like I said our input should be take. With a grain of salt because none of are living what the OP is, not even you Tiz ‰
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You're not being shamed, all I'm saying is know what you want. You first said u don't quite want a relationship but not quite a fwb, and then you proceeded to state that you do which tells us you are probably confused and sending this guy mixed signals.

No shame in that we were aaaaaaall 21 at one point, just know what you want and don't be ashamed to ask for your demands to be met first.
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Posted by Shrewdsharp
Well you are 21, very young, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But usually if you are going to a man's place, it's an indication that you are ready to bone. Why on earth are you surprised he's not responding to you anymore? You let a stranger come inside of your body without commitment, without him working for it, and proving himself to you.

As yes I agree with the 3 month golden rule too. I kicked it with an Aquarius who for the first month acted like he was so in love. I really wanted to sleep with him too, and I will admit if God had not intervened, I would have! Within month two I started seeing him for who he really was; a dog! A lying, broke, two-timing dog, who had nothing to offer but dialogue. By the third month I was soo happy I did not give him my body because he wasn't worthy of it.
Your post really spoke to me. I recently experienced something similar and so this resonates with me. OP I hope you take Shrewdsharp's words at heart.

I am sure this guy is feeling a bit embarrassed about his performance but you are not doing yourself any favors by sacrificing your desires for someone else's in hope that by luck, you'll still end up with the results you want. In otherwords, why go along with a casual, sexual situationship with some guy...giving him what he wants, voiding yourself of what you want...in hopes that luck will find you and turn it all magically into love??

Dont let some of the harsh words get to you, you are indeed young and most of us wont admit it but have been where you are or are where you are now and that is making sacrifices for the hope that our sacrifice will make someone want us.

Dont short change yourself. If you want a relationship, go find it with a guy who wants that too, dont give yourself to a guy who just wants your body and is fine disregarding it later.
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So what should I do in the event that he contacts me again or wants to "see me?" Should I try to change things and not have sex the next time, or just forget about him either way?
Forget basing your actions on his, that will only confuse you.

Play it the way you want to play it, and use your instincts.

You just said you don't want to put yourself in those kind of situations anymore, so that's a start. Because it came from you.

Don't get poisoned by these jaded people on here. Get out this place while you still can.
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LOL Tiz , full of wisdom tonight....

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So what should I do in the event that he contacts me again or wants to "see me?" Should I try to change things and not have sex the next time, or just forget about him either way?
Forget basing your actions on his, that will only confuse you.

Play it the way you want to play it, and use your instincts.

You just said you don't want to put yourself in those kind of situations anymore, so that's a start. Because it came from you.

Don't get poisoned by these jaded people on here. Get out this place while you still can.
LOL Tiz , full of wisdom tonight....

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"Play it the way you want to and use your instincts"

Ummm she doesn't know what to do that's why she is asking 2 questions.

"Don't get poisoned by the jaded people on here"

People who are telling her to respect herself, let him go, move on find someone who will treat her better.

BTW wisdom is knowledge and experience, instinct is compulsive behavior.
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inside joke between him and I

*keep the dream alive*


I'mma let you get back to disecting what he said thou.....

Cheers
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Psssst don't take DXP soo serious!


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One, ignore the male in this thread who goes under the guise of being oh so "wise." He's not. He really, really isn't. End of story.

Two, look at the red flags, dear. If a guy is bringing up sex talk with you that early on, guess what he wants? I don't care how many frilly words he tacks on to your convos. REAL men don't do that shit with women they respect. Little boys who are looking to get their dicks wet do this garbage.

You proceeded to go over to his place after all this talk and omgz, he banged and ditched you. *GASP* Why are we surprised?

Three, blah blah "saving yourself/respecting yourself" whatever archaic bullshit some of the women here are chucking at you, whatever. Should you have caved in so soon if you wanted this opportunistic loser to stick around? Probably not. But then again, why would you fret over some asshole who clearly only saw you for hit it and quit it material?

HOWEVER, some real truth your silly 21 year old head needs to realize- guys will say and do whatever they can to stick their dick in you without consequence. You giving in and crying about it later is just ridiculous. No, not all men are like this, but SO many are, especially in your age group. If you don't want some dude ditching you after sticking his dick in you, don't put out. But if you do, just brace yourself for the probable outcome of him running off afterwards. ESPECIALLY if he's bringing up sexual talk a little on the fast side. I know it makes your silly 21 year old brain quiver in delight that some dude wants to fuck you. After all, most girls are exploring sexuality and the like and it's oh so exciting some dude wants you.

But this thing you come here with, all baffled and shit- knock it off. It's plain as day what happened here to those of us who have experienced this same bullshit.

If you don't want this to happen again to you, do not put out with a dude who's talking to you so crudely so early on. There's a very high probability that he'll become "too busy" (another lovely red flag that he's avoiding you/full of shit). Other than that, if you decide to hop on some crude asshole's dick because "of course" it happens, then proceed to consider it a one night stand.

Explore and put out to your heart's content, just like the only male in this thread is suggesting (bros before hoes, yo), but you better start learning real fast how things REALLY go in the dating scene if you don't want to continue to get burned.

This is far from "jaded" and more "real talk" going on here. Something many cave dwellers here on DXP LOVE to avoid.

Take home message- start learning to read behavior better, pay attention to obvious red flags, and use better judgement. And remember, there are many a double standard in dating- including women and sex. It may be 2016, but guys generally still have a pretty shitty stance on women who give them what they want early on and see that as a green light to treat them like shit.
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But I forgot @tiziani wants people to chase and be aggressive and see where it leads all while loosing yourself at the same time.
He wants women to do what he wants in a woman he'd pursue- which isn't much. It disturbs me some of the skewed shit he tells women around here.

It makes me lol when silly bitches go on about how "wise" he is. If you pay attention to his posts, he really isn't saying much of anything, tbh, nor is his "advice" in the woman's best interest. It's all very vague. All he's done around here is charm the shit out of the vagina crowd, in typical Libra fashion, like a pied piper.
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Posted by Librawoman77
What do you mean "Of course we had sex." Not all women give it up so fast. Those of us who don't are the ones men respect, pursue and marry. Men don't want to a make an "easy" lay their woman; didn't you know that when you gave it up?

It's cool, but usually when women have sex fast with a guy they have come to terms with the fact that "this is just going to be a good time."

If you want to be serious with a man, make sure he wants the same thing, and don't sleep with him too fast. Obey the 90 days rule. Within 90-days you will see who he really is, and what he really wants. But he sees you as a loose woman who will give it up too easily. HE got what he wanted and baby-girl this is a wrap. He's not pulling a disappearing act, he has disappeared, until the next time he wants to have sex.
LOL, girl bye. I appreciate your honesty but I don't agree with you. He has told me that he's very sex positive and doesn't believe in judging grown adults for having sex, as you seem to. I do not believe in the concept of a "loose woman." You can wait 90 days or a year to have sex, it could still be the only thing he wanted. So what then?
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Libras can be master manipulators; despite his so-called acceptance of your sexually liberated views, after you "grown people" had sex within a week, he is mysteriously backing-off.

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Men's major hormone testosterone forces them to pursue, hunt go get, conquer, compete, sweat, provide, battle and win. Women's main hormone estrogen, doesn't provoke us to conquer, to battle to hunt. Men are hunters, they are bred, socialized and love to compete, chase, go get, and conquer the prize with sweat, blood and toil. Men need sex! The harder and longer they have to work for the thing they want, the more likely they are to value it. The easier the conquest the less likely the testosterone will kick it to fuel the man's desire for the object of their affection. It's not games, it's really physiological.

Many men want the prize. They want the woman, other men could not easily get. It makes them feel proud, it strokes their ego, it makes them think of you in a highly respectable manner.

You have a right to decide how much of a challenge you are willing to be for a man. It sounds like you want to be a sexually liberated woman who does not abide by traditional rules, in this culture there is a name for women like that. And men will start classifying you as such. You can't help who or what you are. However if you want a good long-term relationship it's important to understand men physiologically and allow them the wonderful opportunity of wining and over a good period of time to woo the prize....you!. But of course, it's totally up to you.
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In the end people appreciate & respect what they work for.
I don't want a relationship based on all these requirements like waiting however long to have sex. A man who tries repeatedly to have sex early on has no business deeming a woman to be unworthy while he's doing the exact same thing. If he does, he needs to stay far away from me because he's obviously got some issues. And this isn't always true anyway?? There are so many girls who wait to have sex yet still get cheated on, lied to and disrespected.
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Exactly. A guy can just as easily fuck you over if you have sex with him on the first date or if you wait till the 20th.

Waiting a certain amount of days to have sex isn't gonna make a cheater loyal, a liar honest.

It's important to qualify the dude for youself. If after one date your feeling the connection, your liking where he's coming from and know what he's about...than have at it.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
One, ignore the male in this thread who goes under the guise of being oh so "wise." He's not. He really, really isn't. End of story.

Two, look at the red flags, dear. If a guy is bringing up sex talk with you that early on, guess what he wants? I don't care how many frilly words he tacks on to your convos. REAL men don't do that shit with women they respect. Little boys who are looking to get their dicks wet do this garbage.

You proceeded to go over to his place after all this talk and omgz, he banged and ditched you. *GASP* Why are we surprised?

Three, blah blah "saving yourself/respecting yourself" whatever archaic bullshit some of the women here are chucking at you, whatever. Should you have caved in so soon if you wanted this opportunistic loser to stick around? Probably not. But then again, why would you fret over some asshole who clearly only saw you for hit it and quit it material?

HOWEVER, some real truth your silly 21 year old head needs to realize- guys will say and do whatever they can to stick their dick in you without consequence. You giving in and crying about it later is just ridiculous. No, not all men are like this, but SO many are, especially in your age group. If you don't want some dude ditching you after sticking his dick in you, don't put out. But if you do, just brace yourself for the probable outcome of him running off afterwards. ESPECIALLY if he's bringing up sexual talk a little on the fast side. I know it makes your silly 21 year old brain quiver in delight that some dude wants to fuck you. After all, most girls are exploring sexuality and the like and it's oh so exciting some dude wants you.

But this thing you come here with, all baffled and shit- knock it off. It's plain as day what happened here to those of us who have experienced this same bullshit.

If you don't want this to happen again to you, do not put out with a dude who's talking to you so crudely so early on. There's a very high probability that he'll become "too busy" (another lovely red flag that he's avoiding you/full of shit). Other than that, if you decide to hop on some crude asshole's dick because "of course" it happens, then proceed to consider it a one night stand.

Explore and put out to your heart's content, just like the only male in this thread is suggesting (bros before hoes, yo), but you better start learning real fast how things REALLY go in the dating scene if you don't want to continue to get burned.

This is far from "jaded" and more "real talk" going on here. Something many cave dwellers here on DXP LOVE to avoid.

Take home message- start learning to read behavior better, pay attention to obvious red flags, and use better judgement. And remember, there are many a double standard in dating- including women and sex. It may