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My Scorpion curiosity has the better of me with this Libra guy and I'd love some feedback from you Libras.

We had a first date and it seemed to go really well. He seemed quite nervous, fumbly at first and he is probably the first date I have met in a lot of years who showed up with a bunch of flowers and he kept saying really nice things to me, but sweet and not creepy.

I'd describe him as the nerdy type!

On the date he was giving all the signs of attraction; complimenting me, stroking my fingers, totally engaged on me and asking lots of questions and sharing lots of personal thoughts and ideas. He nervously went in for the kiss half way into the date and it was a great kiss. He went in for lots more kisses and walked me home holding hands then came up and talked with me for about 8 hours straight.

I was watching him and all the body language was saying the attraction was there. Pupils like saucers, leaning into me, trying to touch me, trying to impress me by telling me all his best achievements and all that. It was actually sort of adorable and I felt quite warmed to him and disarmed.

I was thinking I'd found a real gentleman and the conversation was seriously great - a bit of debate, a lot of philosophy and he was really smart and interesting and the conversation just flowed really easily.

We didn't have sex, but he did sleep over and he snuggled me all night, woke up and kissed me a lot more. Although we woke up early, he stayed with me until lunch, more talking and kissing and said he'd like to see me again and I agreed that I'd like that too.

And then nothing! Two days and not had even a text.

I'm so shocked he hasn't called.

Is this a classic case of me being played or him losing interest? We met through online dating and so I am feeling now like maybe he was disappointed with me in real life.

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Thanks everyone for replying.

Just to answer the question @2moon, he's 41 years old.

I did his chart with him on the date and he's alllll planets in Libra apart from a moon in Aquarius and Venus in Virgo - so I guess this guy is going to be reserved / slow with things?

I would have normally just messaged him, I am a pretty playful and chilled /confident person, but on the date he told me he had a fear of being needed and preferred independent women (bad experience with ex wife engulfing him that he seemed to have a fear of this) so I figured give him space and see what he does next so as not to freak him out because the date was pretty intense.

I'm not a particularly needy woman but I suppose the evaluation process after a good first date is the two questions (1) how do I feel about this person and (2) how do they feel about me. No one likes mixed messages on the latter I guess ha ha.

Also maybe worth noting, he was busy over the weekend, he had extensive weekend plans and part of that was seeing his kids for the first time in months after his ex wife had blocked contact and it was all very uncertain which he talked to me about. So maybe he was busy /dealing with emotional things that were a priority.

Maybe give it a couple more days and see what he does.

I think it's just that I actually really liked him and felt sure he did too so was walking on air and feeling happy and excited and now I feel a bit blue and deflated.

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Well I guess with that you can only be yourself and do what feels right at the time. Some guys I date for 3 months and they never come into my house. It depends on the person and how it feels and being a Scorp I am quite instinctive. In this case it felt very warm and normal.

I always think if you're being yourself then you'll end up with someone who likes you just as you are, and hopefully that's what I will eventually get. If he's the kind of person who's going to presume I am a bad girl or something because I was warm and open with him then I don't think he'd be my type of person. Truth is that a guy has been in my apartment once in 2017 and that was an ex boyfriend.

I'm pretty fussy! But if my instincts say something feels right at the time I tend to follow those.
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If a Libra is genuinely interested, he would ask you for a second date again and would keep in touch.

We love our space only when a relationship has been established. During the early stages of dating though, we'd be glued to your hip.

The guy is probably talking to/dating other women. You're not a priority yet hence the silence.
Strange, I'm the opposite in my relationships. I'm not all that fussed in the beginning. It's only as time goes on that I become more clingy.
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Thanks everyone for replying.

Just to answer the question @2moon, he's 41 years old.

I did his chart with him on the date and he's alllll planets in Libra apart from a moon in Aquarius and Venus in Virgo - so I guess this guy is going to be reserved / slow with things?

I would have normally just messaged him, I am a pretty playful and chilled /confident person, but on the date he told me he had a fear of being needed and preferred independent women (bad experience with ex wife engulfing him that he seemed to have a fear of this) so I figured give him space and see what he does next so as not to freak him out because the date was pretty intense.

I'm not a particularly needy woman but I suppose the evaluation process after a good first date is the two questions (1) how do I feel about this person and (2) how do they feel about me. No one likes mixed messages on the latter I guess ha ha.

Also maybe worth noting, he was busy over the weekend, he had extensive weekend plans and part of that was seeing his kids for the first time in months after his ex wife had blocked contact and it was all very uncertain which he talked to me about. So maybe he was busy /dealing with emotional things that were a priority.

Maybe give it a couple more days and see what he does.

I think it's just that I actually really liked him and felt sure he did too so was walking on air and feeling happy and excited and now I feel a bit blue and deflated.


His moon is in aquarius? Okay do not text him or call him until he calls you. Are we clear? Do not. Wait.
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It was very weird, he seemed so into me
Sorry it happened to you. There is no excuse for messing you around like that


Thank you. I'm embarrassed by how much that stung! Never gets easier, but so rare for me to like someone
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Don't be embarrassed. It just means youre an optimistic person who believes in love. Nowt wrong with that.
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Thanks...

This is exactly what it said

"I had a really fun time with you. The conversation was great and the kissing was really fantastic. Although I feel bad that I just don't think I can do a relationship and I think that's what you want and probably deserve".

Yeah, it sucks. I know dating can be tough but at the same time when I go on a date I can usually tell how well it's going and like you say, why extend it so long only to reject the person afterwards?

Thanks for the support. I think it has just been SO long since I did that lovely stay awake all night talking / cuddling /kissing thing that it reminded me of how nice it was to feel that way about someone (SO rare for me) and I'd woken up all smiles and hopes and feeling potential and getting knocked down was a shock.

When he left here I honestly felt zero potential for rejection, so that was just plain weird.

I guess you can't get into anyone's head.
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Posted by MondayMorning
Thanks...

This is exactly what it said

"I had a really fun time with you. The conversation was great and the kissing was really fantastic. Although I feel bad that I just don't think I can do a relationship and I think that's what you want and probably deserve".

Yeah, it sucks. I know dating can be tough but at the same time when I go on a date I can usually tell how well it's going and like you say, why extend it so long only to reject the person afterwards?

Thanks for the support. I think it has just been SO long since I did that lovely stay awake all night talking / cuddling /kissing thing that it reminded me of how nice it was to feel that way about someone (SO rare for me) and I'd woken up all smiles and hopes and feeling potential and getting knocked down was a shock.

When he left here I honestly felt zero potential for rejection, so that was just plain weird.

I guess you can't get into anyone's head.


Sounds like is just after lots of casual sex.

Maybe on reflection he realised he should have been more upfront in his intentions.

Unless he does this repeatedly to women in which case, he's still an arsehole.
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Posted by MondayMorning
Thanks everyone for replying.

Just to answer the question @2moon, he's 41 years old.

I did his chart with him on the date and he's alllll planets in Libra apart from a moon in Aquarius and Venus in Virgo - so I guess this guy is going to be reserved / slow with things?

I would have normally just messaged him, I am a pretty playful and chilled /confident person, but on the date he told me he had a fear of being needed and preferred independent women (bad experience with ex wife engulfing him that he seemed to have a fear of this) so I figured give him space and see what he does next so as not to freak him out because the date was pretty intense.

I'm not a particularly needy woman but I suppose the evaluation process after a good first date is the two questions (1) how do I feel about this person and (2) how do they feel about me. No one likes mixed messages on the latter I guess ha ha.

Also maybe worth noting, he was busy over the weekend, he had extensive weekend plans and part of that was seeing his kids for the first time in months after his ex wife had blocked contact and it was all very uncertain which he talked to me about. So maybe he was busy /dealing with emotional things that were a priority.

Maybe give it a couple more days and see what he does.

I think it's just that I actually really liked him and felt sure he did too so was walking on air and feeling happy and excited and now I feel a bit blue and deflated.


I'm sure he'll reach out soon - it does sound like he was pre-occupied ... I hope all goes well for you
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Maybe he's feeling overwhelmed. He went on a casual first date and ended up catching feelings.
Thanks Deedee. I think sometimes that's the BS women tell themselves though to cover for a guy who's not that interested.

It's still weird though.

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Trying to dissect why he hasn't called is an excercise in futility. Like deedee said, he may be surprised by the connection. If he's not looking for a relationship could be he's ghosted before he gets further attached.

If I'm you I'm sending him a follow up text..."I had a lovely time, thanks". And then sit back and let him step up to the plate. If a week goes by and you don't hear from him then he's just not that into you, plain and simple. Despite his fab date with you.
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Thanks everyone for replying.

Just to answer the question @2moon, he's 41 years old.

I did his chart with him on the date and he's alllll planets in Libra apart from a moon in Aquarius and Venus in Virgo - so I guess this guy is going to be reserved / slow with things?

I would have normally just messaged him, I am a pretty playful and chilled /confident person, but on the date he told me he had a fear of being needed and preferred independent women (bad experience with ex wife engulfing him that he seemed to have a fear of this) so I figured give him space and see what he does next so as not to freak him out because the date was pretty intense.

I'm not a particularly needy woman but I suppose the evaluation process after a good first date is the two questions (1) how do I feel about this person and (2) how do they feel about me. No one likes mixed messages on the latter I guess ha ha.

Also maybe worth noting, he was busy over the weekend, he had extensive weekend plans and part of that was seeing his kids for the first time in months after his ex wife had blocked contact and it was all very uncertain which he talked to me about. So maybe he was busy /dealing with emotional things that were a priority.

Maybe give it a couple more days and see what he does.

I think it's just that I actually really liked him and felt sure he did too so was walking on air and feeling happy and excited and now I feel a bit blue and deflated.


I'm sure he'll reach out soon - it does sound like he was pre-occupied ... I hope all goes well for you

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Or he thought I was SO awful he didn't want to do it again!

He was married, for a long time, divorce came through late 2015.
I don't think that's the case. Libras are pretty charming and socially adaptable. So it may have been he was humoring you and keeping the conversation goin in the hope that you would give it up.

What dating app did you meet him on?
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Tinder - yes, I know - huge mistake. Have deleted it and will never meet a guy off there again for as long as I live.
I don't really judge those that use apps, or online sites to find dates. However, Tinder is not somewhere I think anyone should try and meet someone of quality, and looking for something long term. Smash and dash is usually the ultimate goal on there.

I am sure, given time, you will find other men to date. And I am sorry you got rejected, but I do agree with @LadyNeptune that he only stayed hoping to get some. Sucks, but at least you figured it out before wasting your time.
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Tinder - yes, I know - huge mistake. Have deleted it and will never meet a guy off there again for as long as I live.
I don't really judge those that use apps, or online sites to find dates. However, Tinder is not somewhere I think anyone should try and meet someone of quality, and looking for something long term. Smash and dash is usually the ultimate goal on there.

I am sure, given time, you will find other men to date. And I am sorry you got rejected, but I do agree with @LadyNeptune that he only stayed hoping to get some. Sucks, but at least you figured it out before wasting your time.
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I think tinder means different things in different countries. I'm guessing in the states it's a way to smash and dash. In the UK, I know of several people who have met their long term partners on it. They are all thinking about marriage and babies now.
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Tinder - yes, I know - huge mistake. Have deleted it and will never meet a guy off there again for as long as I live.
I don't really judge those that use apps, or online sites to find dates. However, Tinder is not somewhere I think anyone should try and meet someone of quality, and looking for something long term. Smash and dash is usually the ultimate goal on there.

I am sure, given time, you will find other men to date. And I am sorry you got rejected, but I do agree with @LadyNeptune that he only stayed hoping to get some. Sucks, but at least you figured it out before wasting your time.
I think tinder means different things in different countries. I'm guessing in the states it's a way to smash and dash. In the UK, I know of several people who have met their long term partners on it. They are all thinking about marriage and babies now.
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Yes I think it is very much different in other countries. In the US, it seems to be the go to app for smash and dash types.
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Hey @OneKnight I am sorry I only just saw your post that made me laugh 🙂

I am Scorp all over, but I guess my strength is a different kind. I don't do revenge or have a stinger but I am strong in other ways - like never giving up on things I care about, or standing up for what's right even when it;s the hardest thing to do. Strength comes in a lot of different ways and while people sometimes don't see it as obvious in me, if you asked my friends they'd say I was the strongest person they knew.

I think your life experience shapes a lot of who you are, and when you get to be around mid thirties and you've experienced really bad things (I lost a partner who I loved and lived with for many years to an accident for example) then it changes how you see things because you don't want to be quite so quick to judge others. Sometimes I know that my own grief or insecurities has made me act like a jerk, and I think people are only human. This guy was a jerk to me and like you say, a coward, but I don't feel mad or hate him or anything. I just felt initially confused and later quite sad for him because I think he's got some pretty big fears to behave that way.

Don't get me wrong...I get the beauty sometimes of a one night stand and I'm not above taking someone home from a bar. I did so a few times in my younger days 🙂 but the difference is that you both know the score. This is different because we were going on a date, not a one-night-stand he he romanced me like you said.

Ha ha, I am perfect for you? I LOVE Cancers. The best connection I ever had was with a Cancer. Tempting anyway. You sound funny and thanks for the reply
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@OneKnight you're such a cool person, I know I'd really like you in real life 🙂

Yeah, the great love of my life started with a one-night-stand so I don't knock it. This guy did try all night to bang me. I had him pressing into me for about 14 hours, so he wanted to. I just didn't do it (thankfully) because it was too quick in the circumstances.

Nah, you weren't harsh on him. He's old enough to behave better and he will be back on tinder right now looking for the next girl.

Yeah, see the avatar is Persephone -like you said, Goddess of the Underworld. the story is cool, and my best friend told me I reminded her of this woman because she is a bridge from dark to light and she can connect with both equally. I don't look like that though 🙂 I feel a bit like you can read into me! Cancer's always do that. It's cool 🙂
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Thanks...

This is exactly what it said

"I had a really fun time with you. The conversation was great and the kissing was really fantastic. Although I feel bad that I just don't think I can do a relationship and I think that's what you want and probably deserve".

Yeah, it sucks. I know dating can be tough but at the same time when I go on a date I can usually tell how well it's going and like you say, why extend it so long only to reject the person afterwards?

Thanks for the support. I think it has just been SO long since I did that lovely stay awake all night talking / cuddling /kissing thing that it reminded me of how nice it was to feel that way about someone (SO rare for me) and I'd woken up all smiles and hopes and feeling potential and getting knocked down was a shock.

When he left here I honestly felt zero potential for rejection, so that was just plain weird.

I guess you can't get into anyone's head.



Perhaps he's too preoccupied with his children and ex right now? And when things die down itll be different.. He obvs had a good time with you but it's pretty clear he's going through some stuff..
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@MondayMorning and @OneKnight - I am loving the exchange between the two of you!! I am actually willing you to have a real connection because your convo is so sweet.

I'm biased because I love a cancer, my husband is one and is the only man to soothe my deep waters. Cancers are incredible, and compliment a scorpio so well. We are simply made for one another in my humble opinion.

God I'm such a sap for romance ?
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Ha ha @VampScorp, I know, I've definitely formed a DXP crush.

I agree Cancers are soooo good at that. They just "get" us. Someone told me once that Cancer and Scorp both have deep waters, but Scorps waters are dark and Cancer is more ethereal and Cancer can come into those dark waters like no one else. That's so sweet how you feel about your husband 🙂)))))

Come to think of it, what the heck was I doing dating a Libra with all planets in Libra and Venus in Virgo. Never going to be an emotional match for me. I noticed today anyway that the guy had taken down all his dating profiles, so maybe he was just not ready to date. I was silly for getting so upset about it. Maybe us Scorps are just so used to everyone falling under the spell we expect everybody to!
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Come to think of it, what the heck was I doing dating a Libra with all planets in Libra and Venus in Virgo. Never going to be an emotional match for me. I noticed today anyway that the guy had taken down all his dating profiles, so maybe he was just not ready to date. I was silly for getting so upset about it. Maybe us Scorps are just so used to everyone falling under the spell we expect everybody to!
Or he made a decision and actually found a stronger connection with someone else whom he didn't tell you he was seeing as well. Either way, you dodged a bullet.
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On another note, looking at your birth chart you are perfect for me heheh.


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Now, back to "Us" hehe. I never had a Scorpio. Too bad I figured out this zodiac thing too late. Your Venus is in Scorpio, just like every woman I ever fell in love with.

Even that underworld girl in your avatar looks Scorpio to me.



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On another note, looking at your birth chart you are perfect for me heheh.


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Now, back to "Us" hehe. I never had a Scorpio. Too bad I figured out this zodiac thing too late. Your Venus is in Scorpio, just like every woman I ever fell in love with.

Even that underworld girl in your avatar looks Scorpio to me.




LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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@MondayMornjng - Yes I agree, we're very intuned with one another. I really like your analogy on cancers entering scorpios water too. Now go pursue a cancer!

I'll give the libra man credit. Regardless of his intentions he was honest with you and himself at the end of the day. Deleting his profile clearly shouts he's not ready to date so I say good for him, he's not all bad, just didn't work out for you two.

Also, I don't know all of your placements but I am Venus and Mars in Libra so I'm naturally drawn to libras. I have some wonderful libran friends, if you click it's a friendship for life, even when they go AWOL ?
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Come to think of it, what the heck was I doing dating a Libra with all planets in Libra and Venus in Virgo. Never going to be an emotional match for me. I noticed today anyway that the guy had taken down all his dating profiles, so maybe he was just not ready to date. I was silly for getting so upset about it. Maybe us Scorps are just so used to everyone falling under the spell we expect everybody to!
Or he made a decision and actually found a stronger connection with someone else whom he didn't tell you he was seeing as well. Either way, you dodged a bullet.
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Very true, he could have been pursuing someone else. Guess we'll never know.

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Come to think of it, what the heck was I doing dating a Libra with all planets in Libra and Venus in Virgo. Never going to be an emotional match for me. I noticed today anyway that the guy had taken down all his dating profiles, so maybe he was just not ready to date. I was silly for getting so upset about it. Maybe us Scorps are just so used to everyone falling under the spell we expect everybody to!
Or he made a decision and actually found a stronger connection with someone else whom he didn't tell you he was seeing as well. Either way, you dodged a bullet.
Very true, he could have been pursuing someone else. Guess we'll never know.

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I thought of that but I don't think so. If he was committed enough / liked someone else enough to remove all dating profiles then he'd not have been pursuing / with me. Well it would seem very weird to be playing the field on Friday and committed on Monday anyway.
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@MondayMornjng - Yes I agree, we're very intuned with one another. I really like your analogy on cancers entering scorpios water too. Now go pursue a cancer!

I'll give the libra man credit. Regardless of his intentions he was honest with you and himself at the end of the day. Deleting his profile clearly shouts he's not ready to date so I say good for him, he's not all bad, just didn't work out for you two.

Also, I don't know all of your placements but I am Venus and Mars in Libra so I'm naturally drawn to libras. I have some wonderful libran friends, if you click it's a friendship for life, even when they go AWOL ?
Yeah, I know well enough to know no one is all bad. One thing I experience a lot dating at my age is that a lot of divorced men around 40 - 45 are pretty seriously commitment-shy. Maybe as a result of bad divorces or maybe they are divorced because they are that way! Whichever it is, the dating pool is saturated by a lot of men who'd prefer to have short / meaningless flings than anything deeper. It's not that the girls are wrong - it's that they are so busy flicking tinder looking for someone perfect and picking flaws in women they barely know that they really miss what's special.

I think happier /stronger people tend to view potential connections as a good thing / opportunity and more fearful people can view it as something they are going to get trapped in. Most healthy men should be able to go on a few dates with a girl they find attractive without freaking out or needing to have a panic attack about it. I'd prefer a guy with his shit together.

I really don't think I know any libras, but I do like congenial people. Maybe not to marry though
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