
Vacation Queen
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Posted by Phantom_Dangus
One of the most haunting things about stories like this is that at least two of the kids knew it was happening. Knew their own mother was doing this.
Now I'm emotional. A friend of ours is going through a custody battle with a lunatic, and I'm scared to death she will end up hurting their kids.

Posted by Phantom_Dangus
One of the most haunting things about stories like this is that at least two of the kids knew it was happening. Knew their own mother was doing this.
Now I'm emotional. A friend of ours is going through a custody battle with a lunatic, and I'm scared to death she will end up hurting their kids.


Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by ArgusPosted by Phantom_Dangus
One of the most haunting things about stories like this is that at least two of the kids knew it was happening. Knew their own mother was doing this.
Now I'm emotional. A friend of ours is going through a custody battle with a lunatic, and I'm scared to death she will end up hurting their kids.
The most grisly thing about this story is that, sadly, it’s not an isolated incident. About two weeks ago a father in my town fatally injured his 6 y.o son followed by taking his own life in light of yet another ugly divorce.
I bawled my eyes out and I don’t even know them!
Just....why!? I can’t even begin to fathom what goes through their head other then their hubris being wounded. Fucks....all of them!!!
Were drugs or alcohol involved? I don't know. Poor self-control meets selfishness meets being distraught and grieving? Whatever the excuse, there's no excuse.click to expand

Posted by Black-Mamba
I didn't read but how is this different than what Chris Watts did, except he actually didn't commit suicide

Posted by Antiphates
The core of who we are and our perspective are quite fragile. With time and the right influencing factors even the most insane deed can become a completly plausible thing to do.

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Antiphates
The core of who we are and our perspective are quite fragile. With time and the right influencing factors even the most insane deed can become a completly plausible thing to do.
I agree. Like the show Snapped. It’s like momentary insanity.
But to make a decision to take them all with you. So sad.
its not really momentary insanity - cause killing 1 should have been enough to have you snap out of itclick to expand

Posted by ClassyAquarius
I think that if she had mental issues, then her logic was twisted. She might though if she kill herself the kids will find her and have trauma. Normal logic doesn't involve this kind of thinking.

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by Antiphates
The core of who we are and our perspective are quite fragile. With time and the right influencing factors even the most insane deed can become a completly plausible thing to do.
I agree. Like the show Snapped. It’s like momentary insanity.
But to make a decision to take them all with you. So sad.
its not really momentary insanity - cause killing 1 should have been enough to have you snap out of it
Yeah and the planning of it all. That's why I can't fathom how it could be done. I've read it can be almost like a crazy haze the whole day- like a sort of blacked out episode or something.
I saw red once, it really does happen. Like my mind blanked out and i was just in a fit of rage.
but it lasted only a few minutes. I had a knife up and was ready to stab my brother.click to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by saggurl88Posted by ClassyAquarius
I think that if she had mental issues, then her logic was twisted. She might though if she kill herself the kids will find her and have trauma. Normal logic doesn't involve this kind of thinking.
But leaving the kids without a mother, wondering who will raise them, if they will be harmed, molested, hurt. I can see this making a mother more selfish as well, to just take the kids with her. As crazy a it sounds.
But how about if they'd cure a disease or innovate a better way to house people
she's a bitch.click to expand



Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.
Why would you go wildly flailing about for someone else to blame? I don't understand that response to tragedy.click to expand

Posted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology

Posted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.

Posted by _DazedPosted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology
I bet he's a Capricorn man.click to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology
Is her moon aries? what's her mars?click to expand

Posted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.

Posted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology

Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Black-MambaPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.
Why would you go wildly flailing about for someone else to blame? I don't understand that response to tragedy.
What? Por Que? HUH?
No one can get in front of things like this. It's not anyone else's fault or responsibility to catch it. Something unusual and terrible happened, and that's that.click to expand

Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.
Why would you go wildly flailing about for someone else to blame? I don't understand that response to tragedy.
I’m not looking to blame someone else...idiot.
There’s got to be more to the story is my point. The license, the gun, professionals involved in the divorce....there should be a level of observation somewhere that could have prevented this.
People give signs. People are messy and sloppy. There had to be an indicator that this was possible. These children could have been saved had the right person made an observation that sounded some form of an alarm.
Don’t be daft
You had a whole list of people to blame. Idiot, huh? Just like that. Somebody is sensitive.click to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology
Where are her birthday details? I can't find themclick to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology
Is her moon aries? what's her mars?click to expand

Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by saggurl88Posted by virgoOPPP
damn
she's a pisces with a degree in criminal psychology
Where are her birthday details? I can't find them
march 3 1980
born in port arthur, texas
and she used to be a teacherclick to expand

Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by Romz-
I read about this and I can’t understand how someone can get to that level of selfishness and insanity to look at their children and think about taking their life.
In a divorce the judge in question and family counsellors should have had some form of an indication that she was contemplating or capable.
1- If she was previously anti-gun violence then when did she apply for the license.
2- When was the gun purchased.
3- If the divorce became finalized a week prior, shouldn’t the judge have been made aware of the application for a license during this trial? Would that have been something a judge could even have access to?
4- There needs to be more counselling offered to parents going through a divorce and the children as well. It’s a very difficult process and alienating. The entire process completely changes you and often time’s, people who have lost themselves in the marriage.....are left to return to a person (themselves) they don’t know anymore, which is when depression and self hate typically sink in.
There’s no excuse...but someone involved in this divorce had to have known this was possible.
To think of that woman quietly going about the planning of this sends chills. There has to be more to this.
Why would you go wildly flailing about for someone else to blame? I don't understand that response to tragedy.
I’m not looking to blame someone else...idiot.
There’s got to be more to the story is my point. The license, the gun, professionals involved in the divorce....there should be a level of observation somewhere that could have prevented this.
People give signs. People are messy and sloppy. There had to be an indicator that this was possible. These children could have been saved had the right person made an observation that sounded some form of an alarm.
Don’t be daft
You had a whole list of people to blame. Idiot, huh? Just like that. Somebody is sensitive.
😂👏.....the point I made is that this should have and could have even caught!
People don’t just cleanly plan this shit out. There is always clues and tiny inconsistencies to peoples patterns.
That doesn’t mean I’m shifting the blame from her to someone else, idiot. If you paid any attention besides coming @ me with a stupid interpretation of what I said...you’d have seen the full picture.
Clearly you’re not ready to understand someone else’s perspective. I’m not a linear thinker, I always try to find a full encompassing view of a situation. Bye 👋
Bullshit. You're blaming the judge, the person she bought the gun from, the system, her doctors, and everyone else around her. Sometimes you just don't know.
We're done. You're rude as hell.click to expand



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I always wonder with a mother who is having psychological issues, how hard it is to take their own childrens lives.
I also wonder if they do this to hurt the dad or to take their kids with them so they won't have to live in a world without their parent and suffer (or thrive) at what their parent went through.
I couldn't imagine killing anything and could never imagine the anguish involved in committing this type of crime.
Texas authorities have confirmed that three siblings — aged 7, 9, and 11 — were killed last week by their 39-year-old mother, who then took her own life.
The determination from the Harris County Medical Examiner’s Office is that Ashley Auzenne shot and killed herself after fatally shooting her children — Parrish, 11, Eleanor, 9, and 7-year-old Lincoln — inside their Deer Park, Texas, home.
The four bodies were discovered the morning of October 29 when local police were asked to check in on the family after relatives were unable to reach them.
A motive for the murder-suicide is unknown, and KTRK is reporting the deadly violence occurred a week after Ashley’s divorce from her estranged husband became final.
The murder weapon was recovered at the scene.
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Auzenne’s Facebook page indicates she had expressed anti-gun-violence views.
Relatives were shocked, saying they never saw this coming.
“They were kids you wanted to have around, they really were,” the children’s paternal grandfather, Murvin Auzenne Sr.
“They played well, they talked to the adults. They’re amazing children in all kinds of fantastic ways,” he added. “The family has all rallied around my son, Murvin. Our focus is only on one thing: helping through this difficult time.”