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I have guns, would like to keep mine as the tools they were intended.
I am also an owner & pro gun. DXP is a good place to get a general consensus on the opinions of massive amounts of the population.

Until the world is making strides to get better, I won't be betting my money on law makers & law enforcement as my only line of defense
But it's a flawed system. If gun laws were stricter then maybe... I'd be ok with it. But still I think the positives of having guns seem far less.

But there is so much corruption.. people are selling and buying guns illegally.

And the fact that the US Airforce actually gave guns to someone who was charged with domestic abuse charges. This was the same man who shot church goers in Texas.

It was an error .. but to imagine the Airforce doing it.... seems so profound.
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"The system is flawed"

I believe this in many regards

It's just hard for me to believe that outlawing guns is the solution to fixing social, economic, & political problems.

Guns are outlawed in the U.K., but gangsters still smuggle them in via Eastern Europe. The Swiss own firearms & these incidents generally never happen

For you to give up ur right to bear a firearm, would be the equivalent to putting your life in someone elses hands l. And who's hands would you trust that much?

guns were created as weapons/tools & we can't go back in time and undo their creation
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Posted by justagirl
58 reasons here why i'm against them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

No make that 604 , including those injured as well. not to mention the 1000's effected by the senseless act.

he bought 22+ guns in a 12 month period and it didn't even raise a red flag?
So your against guns cause a maniac used a gun to kill innocent people.

Is your gripe with the maniac, or the gun?
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all of the craziness going on in the news with the terror attacks & gun massacres, I would like to know where you stand on gun ownership & gun rights?


Look it's like this, if there were more armed people at the vegas concert, they'd have all fired back at the monterey bay hotel, missing and killing hotel guests in the process.

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Given the distance & circumstances you are probably right. I don't even think it's he crowd knew where he was shooting from.
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all of the craziness going on in the news with the terror attacks & gun massacres, I would like to know where you stand on gun ownership & gun rights?


Ok, what do you want to know?
Hit me with whatever you've got
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I'm frustrated that even with the mounting amount of gun related terror we are gonna pass a bill to make it easier to get silencers.

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all of the craziness going on in the news with the terror attacks & gun massacres, I would like to know where you stand on gun ownership & gun rights?


Look it's like this, if there were more armed people at the vegas concert, they'd have all fired back at the monterey bay hotel, missing and killing hotel guests in the process.


Given the distance & circumstances you are probably right. I don't even think it's he crowd knew where he was shooting from.

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They'd have all had to account for distance, wind speed, and elevation the same way the gunner did from the 32nd floor. I think the big push is to ban for the automization of weapons ie, bump stocks, even the NRA is behind that one which is extremely rare.
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all of the craziness going on in the news with the terror attacks & gun massacres, I would like to know where you stand on gun ownership & gun rights?


Ok, what do you want to know?
Hit me with whatever you've got
I'm frustrated that even with the mounting amount of gun related terror we are gonna pass a bill to make it easier to get silencers.



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They are defintely not going to make silencers legal in CA, that's for sure.

Where'd you here this silenc r business?

they are going to try and confiscate your rifles in CA though
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58 reasons here why i'm against them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

No make that 604 , including those injured as well. not to mention the 1000's effected by the senseless act.

he bought 22+ guns in a 12 month period and it didn't even raise a red flag?
So your against guns cause a maniac used a gun to kill innocent people.

Is your gripe with the maniac, or the gun?
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I'm against violence and senseless death. I personally do not carry a gun and 100% want stricter gun laws. But I do not have issue with folks that do carry as long as they should have a gun and aren't some nut job.
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Posted by justagirl
58 reasons here why i'm against them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

No make that 604 , including those injured as well. not to mention the 1000's effected by the senseless act.

he bought 22+ guns in a 12 month period and it didn't even raise a red flag?
If the evil fucks are not flagged in the system, they are breaking no laws.

YOU could do exactly what he did, if you had the motive, money, and time.
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But I wouldn't. I believe in life.
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Posted by Drunksecs
all of the craziness going on in the news with the terror attacks & gun massacres, I would like to know where you stand on gun ownership & gun rights?


Ok, what do you want to know?
Hit me with whatever you've got
I'm frustrated that even with the mounting amount of gun related terror we are gonna pass a bill to make it easier to get silencers.




They are defintely not going to make silencers legal in CA, that's for sure.

Where'd you here this silenc r business?

they are going to try and confiscate your rifles in CA though

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It's being pushed through to the house rn.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/politics/gun-silencer-bill-house-floor/index.html

No one is getting their guns confiscated unless they are unlicensed or a criminal. In which case, good.
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Posted by WarAngel1
I have guns, would like to keep mine as the tools they were intended.
I am also an owner & pro gun. DXP is a good place to get a general consensus on the opinions of massive amounts of the population.

Until the world is making strides to get better, I won't be betting my money on law makers & law enforcement as my only line of defense
But it's a flawed system. If gun laws were stricter then maybe... I'd be ok with it. But still I think the positives of having guns seem far less.

But there is so much corruption.. people are selling and buying guns illegally.

And the fact that the US Airforce actually gave guns to someone who was charged with domestic abuse charges. This was the same man who shot church goers in Texas.

It was an error .. but to imagine the Airforce doing it.... seems so profound.
"The system is flawed"

I believe this in many regards

It's just hard for me to believe that outlawing guns is the solution to fixing social, economic, & political problems.

Guns are outlawed in the U.K., but gangsters still smuggle them in via Eastern Europe. The Swiss own firearms & these incidents generally never happen

For you to give up ur right to bear a firearm, would be the equivalent to putting your life in someone elses hands l. And who's hands would you trust that much?

guns were created as weapons/tools & we can't go back in time and undo their creation


Yes.. even in places where guns are not allowed people are smuggling guns. Imagine how it is in the US then where you are capable of buying guns freely.

No one knows what they are being bought for. No one asks once a permit is given. How did they get a permit? Even if they don't have a permit, there will always be someone who will sell it for a few thousand dollars more.

There are atleast 10 developed countries who are doing exceptionally well without guns. Australia being a prime example where reform in gun laws changed the crime rate drastically.
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Maybe your right, but I'm sure those countries are historically & demographically different than in the US.

It's the government who approve gun owners right?
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
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Posted by Sunflowers
Posted by Drunksecs
Posted by WarAngel1
I have guns, would like to keep mine as the tools they were intended.
I am also an owner & pro gun. DXP is a good place to get a general consensus on the opinions of massive amounts of the population.

Until the world is making strides to get better, I won't be betting my money on law makers & law enforcement as my only line of defense
But it's a flawed system. If gun laws were stricter then maybe... I'd be ok with it. But still I think the positives of having guns seem far less.

But there is so much corruption.. people are selling and buying guns illegally.

And the fact that the US Airforce actually gave guns to someone who was charged with domestic abuse charges. This was the same man who shot church goers in Texas.

It was an error .. but to imagine the Airforce doing it.... seems so profound.
"The system is flawed"

I believe this in many regards

It's just hard for me to believe that outlawing guns is the solution to fixing social, economic, & political problems.

Guns are outlawed in the U.K., but gangsters still smuggle them in via Eastern Europe. The Swiss own firearms & these incidents generally never happen

For you to give up ur right to bear a firearm, would be the equivalent to putting your life in someone elses hands l. And who's hands would you trust that much?

guns were created as weapons/tools & we can't go back in time and undo their creation

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The swiss situation is this ..their army is a people's militia they have to serve ...and they are required to keep some equipment at home. So that is why they have a high level of gun ownership...their people are their army and their soldiers have to keep their equipment at home sometimes. But they are well trained to deal and have to pass psychological tests etc like a cop would.
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Posted by LadyNeptune
The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Have no clue. Maybe the mental health treatment is causing people to snap. Filling people up with mind altering drugs. Parents are even putting children on that stuff. I don't have the answer to everything. Just trying to focus on one thing at a time



Not a democrat or republican by the way
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Have no clue. Maybe the mental health treatment is causing people to snap. Filling people up with mind altering drugs. Parents are even putting children on that stuff. I don't have the answer to everything. Just trying to focus on one thing at a time



Not a democrat or republican by the way

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Mental health doesn't mean druggie.
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
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You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
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Posted by hippiecrite
Can see a bolt action, with a scope, for hunting. Everything else is extraneous and showing off.



Personally, I don't buy guns to show off. I buy them to be prepared. I have them because I cannot predict what the future holds for my children's children.

It's crazy how people can get caught up in the times. this so called "peace" we have in America can change in an instant. The world as we know it is unstable and irratic

Or maybe I watch too much terminator
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
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The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Have no clue. Maybe the mental health treatment is causing people to snap. Filling people up with mind altering drugs. Parents are even putting children on that stuff. I don't have the answer to everything. Just trying to focus on one thing at a time



Not a democrat or republican by the way


Mental health doesn't mean druggie.
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If that's the case then

I think the entire world needs a mental health evaluation.
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
The first two points are already taken into account, except for limits. And you are limited by type to a certain extent. Fully automatic and explosive munitions are barred for civilian use unless you have costly and time consuming reasons from the Bureau of ATF.

Third point, already a law but I'm not sure on details on the limits.

Fourth point, that's exactly what a man like me would give up in the process.
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If it was a law then how did he buy the guns?
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
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Or better yet they outlaw your firearms
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
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Yes. It's sad and frightening tbh.

I saw my friend earlier this week who was there and she is forever changed, she can barely work right now. My heart was breaking for her.

I went to the strip last night and was at the MGM which is across from the festival grounds and no lie I was freaked out and I was safe at home that night, but just the thought of what happened is there, ya know. I can't even begin to fathom what folks that attended are dealing with or the church or Orlando or San Bernadino or sandy hook or....aurua or columbine or..

How bout we do stuff to change it so there are no more Ors.

When have enough folks finally died?
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
The first two points are already taken into account, except for limits. And you are limited by type to a certain extent. Fully automatic and explosive munitions are barred for civilian use unless you have costly and time consuming reasons from the Bureau of ATF.

Third point, already a law but I'm not sure on details on the limits.

Fourth point, that's exactly what a man like me would give up in the process.
If it was a law then how did he buy the guns?
Shich nut bag we talkin about? The church or VT asshole?
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Virginia tech.

And now I'm curious. What freedoms are you scared of losing??
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
Yes. It's sad and frightening tbh.

I saw my friend earlier this week who was there and she is forever changed, she can barely work right now. My heart was breaking for her.

I went to the strip last night and was at the MGM which is across from the festival grounds and no lie I was freaked out and I was safe at home that night, but just the thought of what happened is there, ya know. I can't even begin to fathom what folks that attended are dealing with or the church or Orlando or San Bernadino or sandy hook or....aurua or columbine or..

How bout we do stuff to change it so there are no more Ors.

When have enough folks finally died?
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Your point is very valid. I'm sorry you have to walk in fear.

I just don't think being anti gun is the solution to stop these incidents
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
Yes. It's sad and frightening tbh.

I saw my friend earlier this week who was there and she is forever changed, she can barely work right now. My heart was breaking for her.

I went to the strip last night and was at the MGM which is across from the festival grounds and no lie I was freaked out and I was safe at home that night, but just the thought of what happened is there, ya know. I can't even begin to fathom what folks that attended are dealing with or the church or Orlando or San Bernadino or sandy hook or....aurua or columbine or..

How bout we do stuff to change it so there are no more Ors.

When have enough folks finally died?
Your point is very valid. I'm sorry you have to walk in fear.

I just don't think being anti gun is the solution to stop these incidents

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I'm not anti gun. Well maybe I am, I dunno, but i am not against folks having a gun, a handgun or whatnot for hunting. I for sure am against an average joe having access to buying assault rifles. I am also 100% pro that things need to be put into place to stop this type of stuff from happening. it needs to start with real education on what should or should not be allowed and stronger access to getting certain types of guns.
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
Or better yet they outlaw your firearms

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Your missing the point completely. They are making it EASIER to get access to guns.
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
Or better yet they outlaw your firearms



Your missing the point completely. They are making it EASIER to get access to guns.

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And I feel like your missing my point. I totally understand where u are coming from.

You say they are making it easier

I say the government is working its way to outlawing guns completely and indefinitely
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
The first two points are already taken into account, except for limits. And you are limited by type to a certain extent. Fully automatic and explosive munitions are barred for civilian use unless you have costly and time consuming reasons from the Bureau of ATF.

Third point, already a law but I'm not sure on details on the limits.

Fourth point, that's exactly what a man like me would give up in the process.
If it was a law then how did he buy the guns?
Shich nut bag we talkin about? The church or VT asshole?
Virginia tech.

And now I'm curious. What freedoms are you scared of losing??
I'll have to research the Cho guy, it's been too long to remember his circumstances.

As for the second question: the ones I lost post Patriot Act.
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Do you own a smart phone? Tablet? Do you go online?? Sorry those freedoms are long gone and the way technology intersects every aspect of our lives they aren't coming back. This is the age of Aquarius.
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The news (fox) makes it about hotel check in security or terrorism or mental health. But if mental health is the reason people are snapping, not the ease at which they got the gun, then why isn't better mental health resources our focus? Why are republicans trying to take away our health care??


Right!
The worst thing is they use these tragedies to make it about guns and politics and people get worked up and start taking sides and all too soon we forget the faces of everyone who was slaughtered.

And then they pass these silencer bill while we are all distracted by the bs they engineered 😩
Or better yet they outlaw your firearms



Your missing the point completely. They are making it EASIER to get access to guns.


And I feel like your missing my point. I totally understand where u are coming from.

You say they are making it easier

I say the government is working its way to outlawing guns completely and indefinitely

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I'm talking about something that is actually happening though. I provided you with a link. Where's your proof?
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
The first two points are already taken into account, except for limits. And you are limited by type to a certain extent. Fully automatic and explosive munitions are barred for civilian use unless you have costly and time consuming reasons from the Bureau of ATF.

Third point, already a law but I'm not sure on details on the limits.

Fourth point, that's exactly what a man like me would give up in the process.
If it was a law then how did he buy the guns?
Shich nut bag we talkin about? The church or VT asshole?
Virginia tech.

And now I'm curious. What freedoms are you scared of losing??
I'll have to research the Cho guy, it's been too long to remember his circumstances.

As for the second question: the ones I lost post Patriot Act.
Do you own a smart phone? Tablet? Do you go online?? Sorry those freedoms are long gone and the way technology intersects every aspect of our lives they aren't coming back. This is the age of Aquarius.
Ya might wanna survive this brutal Capricorn conjunction coming up first.
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Ummm, sounds ominous. Wuts that?
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We have the technology to gather information and use suggestive advertising on smart devices. We can update the database to give a warning if someone purchases more than a pre-determined amount of guns/type of gun. Or if they are convicted of a crime. Or if they have a psych recommendation. Etc. etc. etc.

Idk there are people out there much smarter than me. Is the current system really the best we can do?? I don't think so.
The current system is not the best, no.

Adding more safeguards means more intrusion in the American way of life. I'm not 100% ready to have the government up my ass more than they already are with my past employment.
You need to register your address and name. Social security. That's all that's needed.

But the amount of guns you own should be on record. If you start stockpiling that should be stopped. I even think there needs to be a limit of number of guns each person is allowed to purchase. Or limit to type.

Or if you are deemed mentally ill by the state your banned from gun ownership. I think about that kid who shot up Virginia Tech.

Safety for all doesn't need to mean giving up your personal freedoms.
The first two points are already taken into account, except for limits. And you are limited by type to a certain extent. Fully automatic and explosive munitions are barred for civilian use unless you have costly and time consuming reasons from the Bureau of ATF.

Third point, already a law but I'm not sure on details on the limits.

Fourth point, that's exactly what a man like me would give up in the process.
If it was a law then how did he buy the guns?
Shich nut bag we talkin about? The church or VT asshole?
Virginia tech.

And now I'm curious. What freedoms are you scared of losing??
I'll have to research the Cho guy, it's been too long to remember his circumstances.

As for the second question: the ones I lost post Patriot Act.
Do you own a smart phone? Tablet? Do you go online?? Sorry those freedoms are long gone and the way technology intersects every aspect of our lives they aren't coming back. This is the age of Aquarius.
You are right when it comes to technology. I'm typing on a smart phone right now. Thing is, I don't want to allow people to have a blank check to go even further into my privacy and personal freedoms than they already abuse.
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You think they don't already?
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