Creepy people not realizing when they’re being creepy

It is amazing to me how much self-awareness mostly men lack. Yesterday I had to use the elevator at work with a middle-aged postman who I may have seen around somewhat but never really interacted with. I’m wearing a mask and he is not. We are clearly in a small, enclosed space. You’d think they’d get a clear message I’d be extremely uncomfortable in having any verbal conversation with such a scenario. But what does he do? He starts babbling the entire elevator ride up telling me how he’s vaccinated and doesn’t go anywhere outside his home and work. I don’t care, I never asked bruh!! I’m also a tiny woman, so clearly for my safety I had to make sure things stayed light so I just did a courteous laugh and wished him a good day before I got off at my floor. I was extremely tensed and uncomfortable the entire ride but could not even show or express it for my safety. How on earth did this man think that he’d be well received from me? That’s probably the thing, he probably never thinks before he speaks. Idk I just don’t like when things like this happen and don’t understand how others don’t get when they come off creepy/uncomfortable/inappropriate.

Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

As if the poor mailman isn't abused by dogs enough already.

Lol not gonna lie, the pandemic has made me super uncomfortable to be around any kind of talking humans who are strangers unless they are also well masked (even then you can’t guarantee how often they’re wearing fresh masks). Don’t get me started on the people who talk loudly on the phone in the elevators without their masks, I’m literally holding my breath. I always take the stairs unless I absolutely need to take the elevators.

I’m going to read the post a third time to see what was creepy because I saw nothing creepy. Obscene gestures? Anything? I’m going to just guess your demographic based on “I’m a tiny woman”. 😒

I would put a sticker on my forehead that says for people to not talk to me if I could. But I feel it’d encourage people to ironically be more reactive tho

Posted by saggurl88

Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

Yeah I think this was what it is. He saw op was wearing a mask and rushed to explain why he wasn't to assure you not to worry to much.

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Posted by saggurl88

Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

Yeah I think this was what it is. He saw op was wearing a mask and rushed to explain why he wasn't to assure you not to worry to much.

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What's happening in your neck of the woods? Mask mandates have lifted here as of yesterday. It's only required in healthcare settings or public transportation.

They should've had a mask mandate years ago for all hospitals and places where people come when they are sick.

It seems weird, almost 3 years later, but I'm relieved things are getting back to normal

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Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

Yeah I think this was what it is. He saw op was wearing a mask and rushed to explain why he wasn't to assure you not to worry to much.

What's happening in your neck of the woods? Mask mandates have lifted here as of yesterday. It's only required in healthcare settings or public transportation.

They should've had a mask mandate years ago for all hospitals and places where people come when they are sick.

It seems weird, almost 3 years later, but I'm relieved things are getting back to normal

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I think todays the day they drop the indoor mask mandates. IDK I'm so out of touch with whats happening.

Are things going back to normal? Or did we just cancel covid for the 4th time now lol

I always take the stairs in our office building because one time the elevator broke and the poor lady was stuck in there for hours. Literally my nightmare scenario.

I always pop into the office during weekends or early morning, when no one is there. So no one would hear my screams for help.

i don't find it creepy but maybe coz i like talking to old people a lot

most of the time, i find myself creepy

Posted by Lostthoughts

Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

Did you just seriously mansplain a woman’s subjective scenario and tell her she was wrong?

Bro seriously, STFU.

YOU WEREN’T THERE

All the dxp creepy men came to this thread to tell the OP “creepy” is all in her head.

Op look at the losers telling you you’re wrong and you’ll realize you were right.

That's just micro creepy lol. You don't talk to a woman that's alone in that setting unless she invites you to. Not saying your particular situation is exactly like this, but the only guys that regularly talk to women that clearly give them no indication of wanting to are low value. They have nothing to lose so might as well play a numbers game to maybe find one with low self esteem that will take attention from a creep.

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Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

Yeah I think this was what it is. He saw op was wearing a mask and rushed to explain why he wasn't to assure you not to worry to much.

What's happening in your neck of the woods? Mask mandates have lifted here as of yesterday. It's only required in healthcare settings or public transportation.

They should've had a mask mandate years ago for all hospitals and places where people come when they are sick.

It seems weird, almost 3 years later, but I'm relieved things are getting back to normal

I think todays the day they drop the indoor mask mandates. IDK I'm so out of touch with whats happening.

Are things going back to normal? Or did we just cancel covid for the 4th time now lol

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The real test will be after a holiday. Our government goes crazy when people gather for holidays. I’ll know for sure after that.

We will see what’s gonna happen around St. Party’s Day. - oops. Meant PATTY 😋 🍀

I find 100% of all people who talk in public to be creepy. To even acknowledge my existence whatsoever is creepy. Tbh the random person talking to themselves in a gutter is less creepy then the person who is making simple human connection with me. At least I know the person in the gutter is crazy. Anyone else is a potential threat for a random awkward moment.

Actually it would be better if people just didn't exist in real life. Like it's ok to exist on the internet, but in real life it's just gross.

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That's just micro creepy lol. You don't talk to a woman that's alone in that setting unless she invites you to. Not saying your particular situation is exactly like this, but the only guys that regularly talk to women that clearly give them no indication of wanting to are low value. They have nothing to lose so might as well play a numbers game to maybe find one with low self esteem that will take attention from a creep.

And have you considered that the man may simply be the talkative type?

Being talkative is genderless and certainly doesn't warrant being considered creepy.

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Being talkative is fine but not when a woman (in that situation) didn't invite you to approach or engage with them. 'That's just how I am' is no excuse for being ignorant of social cues and infringing on someone else's level of comfortability. As guys, we almost never have to worry about this but I can see where she's coming from.

Reminded me of this video. Eww I can’t stand people like OP. Just manipulative. “Tiny woman”.

Posted by Lostthoughts

Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

A person’s attractiveness doesn’t faze me. I would’ve thought my mask would make me less approachable which I like.

Posted by saggurl88

Mail carriers can be reported by their customers in my state, especially if there is a mandate and he's not following it. He could've just been nervous about not having his mask, since he reaffirmed he was vaccinated.

This is actually an interesting perspective but you’d think they come across other masked people and don’t repeat themselves that multiple times throughout their days? And I’m in Texas so definitely no mandate here currently.

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Posted by Lostthoughts

Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

Did you just seriously mansplain a woman’s subjective scenario and tell her she was wrong?

Bro seriously, STFU.

YOU WEREN’T THERE

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LMAO, It has nothing to do with gender. A man can have a similar experience with the same mechanics happening.

I just explained a concept of human psychology and added a REAL story as a example.

It's shallow narrow minded views like the one your repeating that causes so much unnecessary misery and drama in the world. Where is your sense of compassion and understanding of others—

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Ok, here's a thought, maybe he felt your discomfort and thought everything you did, which is why he engaged you in conversation.

Why should he care? He ended up doing the opposite! It’s just like a 12-15 second elevator ride where he decided to contaminate my breathing space unnecessarily.

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Lol not gonna lie, the pandemic has made me super uncomfortable to be around any kind of talking humans who are strangers unless they are also well masked (even then you can’t guarantee how often they’re wearing fresh masks). Don’t get me started on the people who talk loudly on the phone in the elevators without their masks, I’m literally holding my breath. I always take the stairs unless I absolutely need to take the elevators.

I was like that at the beginning of covid cause I lived with older people. I still got covid and once I saw how no one took the full precautions (which you have to for it to be effective) I relaxed. It's almost impossible to stay clean unless you live like bubble boy

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I have been EXTREMELY health conscious during the pandemic. I loved the fact still being masked at this point kept people from being talkative with me in public/common area places. I was just surprised someone would do something like that in an enclosed space of all places. Trigging my anxiety.

Posted by Hypnotoad

I understand. I hate ranters, they put off an energy off an energy that is kind of disrespectful to your peace of mind. We work extremely hard to have some sense of serenity/cope in our day to day lives and it's extremely rude to have someone come along and fuck with your vibe for their own ranting sake.

EXACTLY. I been enjoying the solitary mask wearing has given me. You’d think people would at least assume if I’m still wearing a mask at this point of the pandemic either I’m a crazy super conscious health freak who’s also vaccinated, immune compromised, or I am just avoiding socializing. They definitely failed to read the social cues. I’m a completely whole other maskless person when I’m open to socializing.

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Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

A person’s attractiveness doesn’t faze me. I would’ve thought my mask would make me less approachable which I like.

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Attractiveness( personal preference applies) tends to cause others to be more open and receptive. Receptive being the key here.

Which you were not and basically caused the way you felt at the time.

Lol I can't be the only one who wonders why.

Posted by Gobbie

Too many women are overusing the word 'creepy' these days...

His behaviour was completely normal but neither of you see eye-to-eye on mask wearing protocol. That's all.

Besides, if you're wearing a mask, what's the issue?

The fact is, you weren't in the mood to be sociable, in an elevator, and he decided engage in chit chat. Oh, the audacity!

You know what? That's life. Deal with it!

Seriously, it's threads like this that severely put me off ever visiting the US.

I don’t want to get into the science of it, but a quiet person wearing a mask is not enough. There’s also a factor called viral load exposure. We were in an enclosed space was the biggest issue. I would not have minded much if it was outside the elevator. Besides, anyone could be nice to your face and say completely different things behind your back on a random internet message board. But yes I was definitely not in the mood to socialize with anyone hence the mask wearing to begin with.

Posted by WarAngel

He wasn't creepy, he was just explaining himself.

You need to work on your people skills. 🤭

Nah, this is my people skills level:

Posted by SassyKiwi

I would put a sticker on my forehead that says for people to not talk to me if I could. But I feel it’d encourage people to ironically be more reactive tho

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There are certain places where I open myself up for social interactions. I act and dress completely different for them. The elevators or the hallways of our office building are not one of them. I *want* people to stay the fuck away and not ever talk to me when I’m wearing a mask in any kind of public/common area.

Posted by Midnite_Riser

Are you serious? A mask topic? Cmon..... get over it. The ''virus'' is not even legit lethal. What they tell you is the corona virus is actually YOUR immune system. FACTS. Also if you took the vaccine, you will not make it very far. There is something critical you need to know about it but because I am still under NDA, I will not discuss any further details. But speaking of creepy, I purposely creeped out 2 girls that actually liked me ( I know because they were giving me prolonged eye contact and would laugh at the slightest things I would say) on purpose just to get them away from me to throw them off. Caused one of them to quit her job (she did herself, I did not force her to), got everyone at my work place messing with me now but it's just little things like lying or saying they saw me somewhere,etc. This is a very complicated situation and it relates to the ''plandemic''

Majority of the people that didn’t take the vaccine are hardcore rural trump supporters. If that’s all they want left in the world then they deserve it.

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Nah the creepiness is in your head. He was

He was explaining myself to try to calm you down. He was open with his intentions. You were not receptive, so it's creepy to you. Make sense?

In fact, I had a friend who went on 2 dates and she wasn't feeling it. He shopped by her work and to chat with her and even left flowers on her car the second time. She said it creeped her out and she called her brother who was a cop to talk to him.

2 months later same scenario but she was into the guy and said it was romantic lol

A person’s attractiveness doesn’t faze me. I would’ve thought my mask would make me less approachable which I like.

Attractiveness( personal preference applies) tends to cause others to be more open and receptive. Receptive being the key here.

Which you were not and basically caused the way you felt at the time.

Lol I can't be the only one who wonders why.

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I totally get you. I agree that is a huge factor when it comes to being more open and receptive of things. I’m personally demisexual and find conventionally attractive people less trustworthy.

Jeeze, gone are the days of uncomfortable elevators rides with strangers in silence. How times have changed.

Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

Jeeze, gone are the days of uncomfortable elevators rides with strangers in silence. How times have changed.

But they are only uncomfortable if you perceive them to be?

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That's just micro creepy lol. You don't talk to a woman that's alone in that setting unless she invites you to. Not saying your particular situation is exactly like this, but the only guys that regularly talk to women that clearly give them no indication of wanting to are low value. They have nothing to lose so might as well play a numbers game to maybe find one with low self esteem that will take attention from a creep.

And have you considered that the man may simply be the talkative type?

Being talkative is genderless and certainly doesn't warrant being considered creepy.

Being talkative is fine but not when a woman (in that situation) didn't invite you to approach or engage with them. 'That's just how I am' is no excuse for being ignorant of social cues and infringing on someone else's level of comfortability. As guys, we almost never have to worry about this but I can see where she's coming from.

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THANK YOU for acknowledging he was being ignorant of social cues. It’s very interesting so many people don’t see that.

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Jeeze, gone are the days of uncomfortable elevators rides with strangers in silence. How times have changed.

But they are only uncomfortable if you perceive them to be?

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🤷‍♀️. Im one of the creepy ones who arrempts conversation in an elevator.

Come to Ireland and be “creeped out”

every day 😃 ~ everyone talks to each other... it’s a big part of the culture

Warm and friendly nation...

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Too many women are overusing the word 'creepy' these days...

His behaviour was completely normal but neither of you see eye-to-eye on mask wearing protocol. That's all.

Besides, if you're wearing a mask, what's the issue?

The fact is, you weren't in the mood to be sociable, in an elevator, and he decided engage in chit chat. Oh, the audacity!

You know what? That's life. Deal with it!

Seriously, it's threads like this that severely put me off ever visiting the US.

I don’t want to get into the science of it, but a quiet person wearing a mask is not enough. There’s also a factor called viral load exposure. We were in an enclosed space was the biggest issue. I would not have minded much if it was outside the elevator. Besides, anyone could be nice to your face and say completely different things behind your back on a random internet message board. But yes I was definitely not in the mood to socialize with anyone hence the mask wearing to begin with.

But you chose to take the elevator. You took the risk.

If a couple of people entered the elevator and started talking to each other, while ignoring you, what then? Would you get pissy about that too?

I don't know whether it's you or your Libra bits, but this thread only highlights your control issues and lack of perspective.

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I know I did lol but like you said… oh, the audacity! 😭 I don’t have any Libra placements. Just a fixed rising, sun, moon, merc and mars if you wanted to verify the control issues 😄

Posted by Wizardz_

You're the creepy one 🤣

You might be onto something here. I probably do get away with creepy stuff because I come off as looking capable of no such things. /thread

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You're the creepy one 🤣

You might be onto something here. I probably do get away with creepy stuff because I come off as looking capable of no such things. /thread

If you go on postman.net there's a long thread about an employee who rode an elevator with a woman who stood there in complete silence and no matter how hard he tried to chat to her and break the ice she simply stared at him like he was an alien and it creeped him out for the rest of the day

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Luv it. I feel like more and more women need to step up and do these silent protests you know? We should not be subjected to such behaviors in confined spaces #youspeakonlywhenspokento

Posted by shakedown

I do find it annoying when strangers attempt small talk.

You’d hate Ireland 😂

That was nothing......imagine you were getting into a lift with someone like Midnight Riser off their meds!!!

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I do find it annoying when strangers attempt small talk.

You’d hate Ireland 😂

Yea, it sounds like I would.

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We are a friendly society

Warm and engaging ...

I feel like I'm the creep if I don't say nothing riding in an elevator with anybody. And it be that way too cus I'm quiet and it's the quiet ones that's creepy really. So you should be creeped out by someone whos like me that just stand there looking like a stiff tree without saying a word.

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I do find it annoying when strangers attempt small talk.

You’d hate Ireland 😂

Yea, it sounds like I would.

We are a friendly society

Warm and engaging ...

Okay.

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Where are you living shakedown?

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I do find it annoying when strangers attempt small talk.

You’d hate Ireland 😂

Yea, it sounds like I would.

We are a friendly society

Warm and engaging ...

Okay.

Where are you living shakedown?

A debilitated Mercury in the 12th squaring Neptune is a hot mess. It forces you to have to immediately shift from the subconscious mind (its natural state) to conscious thought. When a stranger attempts conversation, making that shift is draining. Its like waking up the mind from a deep sleep.

It’s nice that your country is friendly and welcoming.

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You in the States?

Sounds like a stalker ik.

He doesn’t sound creepy at all. Just small chat in the elevator. Take it as a compliment.

Maybe you need to take the stairs to avoid being uncomfortable in small spaces.

Creepy to me is when a guy follows someone, stares at others awkwardly, hovers in certain areas for no reason, and consistently makes u feel uncomfortable