
LadyNeptune
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Posted by Notmyrealname
That is really interesting! Thanks for posting! There are so many normal life accomplishments that younger generations are just unable to afford now, it’s crazy




Posted by Arielle83Posted by Gemitati
Obsession with divorces by @LadyNeptune.
Now available in paperback...
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Posted by MacDaddyInfinitePosted by LadyNeptune
So who knew, higher education = fuck marriage
lol more or less
Its interesting though because the last few people in my life who have gotten married were with their parters 7 years, 9 years, and 12 years respectively. People aren't on the baby boomer timeline of getting married in under 2 years.
Its way smarter, you actually know the person and have time to experience life with them before making that commitment.
Well done millenials.
Fuck marriage? What? They said marriage was MORE likely and more stable with higher education... not less. So Higher Education = Fuck yes! Marriage!
Also, you're looking at the whole thing wrong anyways. There's also the statistics which show that being promiscuous and having children is associated with /less intelligence/. The more intelligent you are, the less you are mindlessly having sex and having sex just for fun. You're smart, so you can wait for a better reward. Such as exclusive monogamistic love where the person truly loves /you/.
In other words, the problem is Millenials because millenials are Thots and Fuckboys. Older generations were more puritanical and unaccepting of promiscuity and having sex with multiple partners.
But then you also get to the point of what I've been saying in all my rants and tirades. Which is that... you say it's smart. But I kind of see it as hypocritical. So you get to know the person longer? Okay, but if that means fucking other people inbetween then. Then you don't really love them and are more likely to cheat while trying to cover it up or the other person focuses on forgiveness because you've invested more time in it. In other words those longer term buildups deal with a lot more getting stuck with someone who doesn't really love you.
Which is another thing. This study is just painting a wide brush putting all marriages together like they are equal. Because Science doesn't recognize half of what I'm saying because that's about Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc. So it includes marriages that last forever, between people who are really sticking together by feeding off of hate. Or people who compromise themselves because they love the other person, but not the other way around.
Well anyways. It's all a joke to me. But if someone cheats or if you're consensual swingers. There's no love involved. You're just together for the sake of sticking together.click to expand

Posted by _Dazed
I will say this.. (After reading the study)
I'm not denying the fall in divorce rate across the board, but the study is a bit misleading.
Up into the 90's, 55+ had the lowest divorce rate, but still with all age ranges on a steady incline in rate of divorce. Yes, <55+ have more or less started to level off since the 90's, but the 55+ continues with a steady incline. This means that across all age ranges, divorce is occurring at a much later age. Table 1 shows a 30% divorce rate for 30+ years of marriage. Figure 4 helps put this into perspective also. The divorce rate drops significantly with older age, but the divorce rate for older ages is still steadily increasing.
This study has been concluded prematurely. The 18-44 year old groups need to be followed up on into their 55+ years of age, over the next couple of decades.
Right now, we can't really say that divorce rates are dropping. Only that divorce rates are happening A LOT further into the marriage itself.

Posted by EndlessPosted by _Dazed
I will say this.. (After reading the study)
I'm not denying the fall in divorce rate across the board, but the study is a bit misleading.
Up into the 90's, 55+ had the lowest divorce rate, but still with all age ranges on a steady incline in rate of divorce. Yes, <55+ have more or less started to level off since the 90's, but the 55+ continues with a steady incline. This means that across all age ranges, divorce is occurring at a much later age. Table 1 shows a 30% divorce rate for 30+ years of marriage. Figure 4 helps put this into perspective also. The divorce rate drops significantly with older age, but the divorce rate for older ages is still steadily increasing.
This study has been concluded prematurely. The 18-44 year old groups need to be followed up on into their 55+ years of age, over the next couple of decades.
Right now, we can't really say that divorce rates are dropping. Only that divorce rates are happening A LOT further into the marriage itself.
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
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@_Dazed
*prevalence, the Figure 3 shows prevalence, meaning anyone who happens to be divorced at the time/age group, if someone got divorced at age 27 during the 70s she will appear at the 18-34 during that time and them add up to the 35-44 the next decade along with anyone getting divorce at age 39, and that's why the 55+ is going up, more divorced people are getting old,so they add up, but they're not "getting divorced" now.
meanwhile, the rate of people getting divorced in the 20-40 age group seen to be getting lower, so the study predicts that, as you pointed out, as old people have a lower divorce rate, millenials will probably have a higher marriage prevalence than Gen X when they hit the 55+ group, there's no reason to imagine they will start divorcing all of a sudden.
HOWEVER, this is no study, only a paper, also not from a doc or anything, just some dude apparently, the use of a 2 years span (the 2008-10) for the divorce rate comparison smells fishy to me, how can I know this is no an exceptional time? some sort of spike, it was the market collapse, divorce and suicide are higher during economical distress, maybe someone needed to push for a conclusion? >.>
more importantly I don't see the interest on that, is not like a lack of marriage and therefore divorce has or will change anything, is just a bunch of legal stuff, without it about 40 percent of U.S. children born in 2016 had unmarried parents, more than double the percent of children born with unmarried parents in 1980, and 10 percentage points higher than in 1990.
https://www.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/UNFPA_PUB_2018_EN_SWP.pdf
people are just not getting married, they're still doing the same business, who knows how the next-gen will end.click to expand

Posted by EndlessPosted by _Dazed
I will say this.. (After reading the study)
I'm not denying the fall in divorce rate across the board, but the study is a bit misleading.
Up into the 90's, 55+ had the lowest divorce rate, but still with all age ranges on a steady incline in rate of divorce. Yes, <55+ have more or less started to level off since the 90's, but the 55+ continues with a steady incline. This means that across all age ranges, divorce is occurring at a much later age. Table 1 shows a 30% divorce rate for 30+ years of marriage. Figure 4 helps put this into perspective also. The divorce rate drops significantly with older age, but the divorce rate for older ages is still steadily increasing.
This study has been concluded prematurely. The 18-44 year old groups need to be followed up on into their 55+ years of age, over the next couple of decades.
Right now, we can't really say that divorce rates are dropping. Only that divorce rates are happening A LOT further into the marriage itself.
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
--------------------------------------------------
@_Dazed
*prevalence, the Figure 3 shows prevalence, meaning anyone who happens to be divorced at the time/age group, if someone got divorced at age 27 during the 70s she will appear at the 18-34 during that time and them add up to the 35-44 the next decade along with anyone getting divorce at age 39, and that's why the 55+ is going up, more divorced people are getting old,so they add up, but they're not "getting divorced" now.
meanwhile, the rate of people getting divorced in the 20-40 age group seen to be getting lower, so the study predicts that, as you pointed out, as old people have a lower divorce rate, millenials will probably have a higher marriage prevalence than Gen X when they hit the 55+ group, there's no reason to imagine they will start divorcing all of a sudden.
HOWEVER, this is no study, only a paper, also not from a doc or anything, just some dude apparently, the use of a 2 years span (the 2008-10) for the divorce rate comparison smells fishy to me, how can I know this is no an exceptional time? some sort of spike, it was the market collapse, divorce and suicide are higher during economical distress, maybe someone needed to push for a conclusion? >.>
more importantly I don't see the interest on that, is not like a lack of marriage and therefore divorce has or will change anything, is just a bunch of legal stuff, without it about 40 percent of U.S. children born in 2016 had unmarried parents, more than double the percent of children born with unmarried parents in 1980, and 10 percentage points higher than in 1990.
https://www.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/UNFPA_PUB_2018_EN_SWP.pdf
people are just not getting married, they're still doing the same business, who knows how the next-gen will end.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by EndlessPosted by _Dazed
I will say this.. (After reading the study)
I'm not denying the fall in divorce rate across the board, but the study is a bit misleading.
Up into the 90's, 55+ had the lowest divorce rate, but still with all age ranges on a steady incline in rate of divorce. Yes, <55+ have more or less started to level off since the 90's, but the 55+ continues with a steady incline. This means that across all age ranges, divorce is occurring at a much later age. Table 1 shows a 30% divorce rate for 30+ years of marriage. Figure 4 helps put this into perspective also. The divorce rate drops significantly with older age, but the divorce rate for older ages is still steadily increasing.
This study has been concluded prematurely. The 18-44 year old groups need to be followed up on into their 55+ years of age, over the next couple of decades.
Right now, we can't really say that divorce rates are dropping. Only that divorce rates are happening A LOT further into the marriage itself.
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
--------------------------------------------------
@_Dazed
*prevalence, the Figure 3 shows prevalence, meaning anyone who happens to be divorced at the time/age group, if someone got divorced at age 27 during the 70s she will appear at the 18-34 during that time and them add up to the 35-44 the next decade along with anyone getting divorce at age 39, and that's why the 55+ is going up, more divorced people are getting old,so they add up, but they're not "getting divorced" now.
meanwhile, the rate of people getting divorced in the 20-40 age group seen to be getting lower, so the study predicts that, as you pointed out, as old people have a lower divorce rate, millenials will probably have a higher marriage prevalence than Gen X when they hit the 55+ group, there's no reason to imagine they will start divorcing all of a sudden.
HOWEVER, this is no study, only a paper, also not from a doc or anything, just some dude apparently, the use of a 2 years span (the 2008-10) for the divorce rate comparison smells fishy to me, how can I know this is no an exceptional time? some sort of spike, it was the market collapse, divorce and suicide are higher during economical distress, maybe someone needed to push for a conclusion? >.>
more importantly I don't see the interest on that, is not like a lack of marriage and therefore divorce has or will change anything, is just a bunch of legal stuff, without it about 40 percent of U.S. children born in 2016 had unmarried parents, more than double the percent of children born with unmarried parents in 1980, and 10 percentage points higher than in 1990.
https://www.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/UNFPA_PUB_2018_EN_SWP.pdf
people are just not getting married, they're still doing the same business, who knows how the next-gen will end.
I would like to see it compared to cohabiting, non-married couples imoclick to expand

Posted by MacDaddyInfinitePosted by Endless
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
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How am I stupid, when you're basically just saying what I said? Specifically:
Marriage is a formality, it has jack all to do with love. Millenials are just more honest in admitting that all they really want is pussy/cock and money. So they pretend less, they don't let themselves fall into farce marriages in the first place.
The ones who do marry, are the ones who think they're clever and able to pretend in a roundabout way. They're the ones saying "Yes of course I love my marriage partner... even though I "selected" them by a process of standards of Looks and Wealth which means I love Things rather than a Person."click to expand

Posted by EndlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EndlessPosted by _Dazed
I will say this.. (After reading the study)
I'm not denying the fall in divorce rate across the board, but the study is a bit misleading.
Up into the 90's, 55+ had the lowest divorce rate, but still with all age ranges on a steady incline in rate of divorce. Yes, <55+ have more or less started to level off since the 90's, but the 55+ continues with a steady incline. This means that across all age ranges, divorce is occurring at a much later age. Table 1 shows a 30% divorce rate for 30+ years of marriage. Figure 4 helps put this into perspective also. The divorce rate drops significantly with older age, but the divorce rate for older ages is still steadily increasing.
This study has been concluded prematurely. The 18-44 year old groups need to be followed up on into their 55+ years of age, over the next couple of decades.
Right now, we can't really say that divorce rates are dropping. Only that divorce rates are happening A LOT further into the marriage itself.
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
--------------------------------------------------
@_Dazed
*prevalence, the Figure 3 shows prevalence, meaning anyone who happens to be divorced at the time/age group, if someone got divorced at age 27 during the 70s she will appear at the 18-34 during that time and them add up to the 35-44 the next decade along with anyone getting divorce at age 39, and that's why the 55+ is going up, more divorced people are getting old,so they add up, but they're not "getting divorced" now.
meanwhile, the rate of people getting divorced in the 20-40 age group seen to be getting lower, so the study predicts that, as you pointed out, as old people have a lower divorce rate, millenials will probably have a higher marriage prevalence than Gen X when they hit the 55+ group, there's no reason to imagine they will start divorcing all of a sudden.
HOWEVER, this is no study, only a paper, also not from a doc or anything, just some dude apparently, the use of a 2 years span (the 2008-10) for the divorce rate comparison smells fishy to me, how can I know this is no an exceptional time? some sort of spike, it was the market collapse, divorce and suicide are higher during economical distress, maybe someone needed to push for a conclusion? >.>
more importantly I don't see the interest on that, is not like a lack of marriage and therefore divorce has or will change anything, is just a bunch of legal stuff, without it about 40 percent of U.S. children born in 2016 had unmarried parents, more than double the percent of children born with unmarried parents in 1980, and 10 percentage points higher than in 1990.
https://www.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/UNFPA_PUB_2018_EN_SWP.pdf
people are just not getting married, they're still doing the same business, who knows how the next-gen will end.
I would like to see it compared to cohabiting, non-married couples imo
I would like to see that comparison, would probably be more "fair" but how can someone get such data, self reporting is always full of people BS, asking how many did have a "serious RS" and then after years of being together they split, that's almost as getting divorced at your mid 20s, would people report that?
"Did I look at table 1 incorrectly? 30+ years of marriage had the highest rate of divorce regardless of age"
honestly I don't understand that table either, it says "Married or newly-divorced women" so not sure what it means (maybe the amount of women that were married for 30 years?) but I doubt that's the rate, AFAIK 60 percent of all divorces involve individuals aged 25 to 39, so its impossible it will be people in their 50s
https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/click to expand

Posted by EndlessPosted by MacDaddyInfinitePosted by Endless
@MacDaddyInfinite
what a stupid piece of rant, you got there.
if your "Love, Morality, Values, Personal Priorities, etc" depends on getting a marriage certificate, well, that's on you buddy
Science don't care about your feelings.
--------------------------------------------------
How am I stupid, when you're basically just saying what I said? Specifically:
Marriage is a formality, it has jack all to do with love. Millenials are just more honest in admitting that all they really want is pussy/cock and money. So they pretend less, they don't let themselves fall into farce marriages in the first place.
The ones who do marry, are the ones who think they're clever and able to pretend in a roundabout way. They're the ones saying "Yes of course I love my marriage partner... even though I "selected" them by a process of standards of Looks and Wealth which means I love Things rather than a Person."
you're stupid because you're assuming that "Older generations were more puritanical and unaccepting of promiscuity and having sex with multiple partners" yet you and other people have absolutely no evidence of such thing except some outrageous empirical "evidence" ALSO assuming that people who are not married are "fucking other people inbetween then" saying "because millenials are Thots and Fuckboys"
not even gonna mention the fact that you did go talking about "true love" whatever the fuck that means, and you equate that to monogamy, like if you're the love judge to say that swinger have no love involved, what do you know about them?
also
millennials are having less sex than other gens:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2016/08/16/millennials-are-having-less-sex-than-other-gens-but-experts-say-its-probably-fine/#3cac081cd958
and if you don't believe it.
twentysomethings have a lower birthrate than any previous generation:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/04/millenials-not-having-babies/391721/
info from "Archives of Sexual Behavior"click to expand

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