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Posted by GetMistedSomeone has to balance out CNN, NBC and BBC.Posted by SssupesDon't get me wrong.. O'Reilly is an intelligent man. I love watching him and Jon Stewart debate.Posted by GetMistedPosted by SssupesSame can be said about US citizens who watch 1 hour of Bill O'Reilly.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
You shut your whore mouth when talking about O'Reilly.
However, Bill plays a part. A part that is used to brainwash the likes of Conservatives, the uneducated, and Texans.
Again.. I like O'Reilly. Get him away from the camera and some of his idea are brilliant and factual. But as far as his actual show goes? 98% of what he says is false and used to control the feeble minded.click to expand
Posted by GetMistedThat's why I watch Wheel of FortunePosted by SssupesI watch all of the above plus FeuxNews (I know.. surprising, right?)Posted by GetMistedSomeone has to balance out CNN, NBC and BBC.Posted by SssupesDon't get me wrong.. O'Reilly is an intelligent man. I love watching him and Jon Stewart debate.Posted by GetMistedPosted by SssupesSame can be said about US citizens who watch 1 hour of Bill O'Reilly.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
You shut your whore mouth when talking about O'Reilly.
However, Bill plays a part. A part that is used to brainwash the likes of Conservatives, the uneducated, and Texans.
Again.. I like O'Reilly. Get him away from the camera and some of his idea are brilliant and factual. But as far as his actual show goes? 98% of what he says is false and used to control the feeble minded.
Fox is by far the worst in regards to factual (misleading info graphics) news coverage.. and more importantly, reporting a story before the facts are present.
I remember when the San Bernardino story broke..
Within an hour of the story unfolding in SB, FowNews was reporting on a shooting on the East coast (involving only two people in a car jacking) and saying that it was another terrorist cell working in relation to those in Cali. Fox was the only news station to "connect" the two incidents.. and the only station to even cover the incident on the East Coast. smh
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Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
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Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
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I could watch (on TV) supporters cheering Trump too......does it mean I start thinking he is a good candidate for a president...?!
I always used at least two sources of info, then make my own opinion.
Posted by QuantumAren't we all?Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
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Posted by GetMistedTexans? Seriously? What did I do to you?Posted by SssupesHowever, Bill plays a part. A part that is used to brainwash the likes of Conservatives, the uneducated, and Texans..Posted by GetMistedPosted by SssupesSame can be said about US citizens who watch 1 hour of Bill O'Reilly.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
You shut your whore mouth when talking about O'Reilly.
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Posted by UndineIndeed we are. Hence my assertion that the best source of information is what you personally see and hear with your own eyes and ears.Posted by QuantumAren't we all?Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
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I've yet to see a domestic or foreign media outlet that doesn't portray the U.S. as some sort of war zone with constant gun battles...either to argue for more guns or for fewer guns...and yet it's nothing like that. At all.
Posted by andstrollbotI tried a proper american donut once.. it was awful.
dxp has made me more adaptable to foreigners especially americans.
i hate people that clamor for american donuts they tasted in the states but can't get here like bish shit up about those fucking donuts!
felt like my tongue was being raped and then embalmed and mummified alive with all that sugar 😱
Posted by champrangerPosted by UndineAll of us are. OP's point is that some will try to make it factual when it's their own opinion that's mostly likely influenced by their bias, and the bias of their sources.Posted by QuantumAren't we all?Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
No matter who or where I hear or read things from, it's always subjective for me. My own opinion is always subjective because of my own limitations.
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An opinion could be factual (based on facts) and still highly subjective. People disagree all the time. It doesn't make one opinion more valid than another, just because they LIVE in the country that thing they were arguing about happened!
I do understand very well what the OP was complaining about.
Let me put it in different words:
"How come that bitch disagree with my expert opinion in...*insert whatever shit you like*, if the bitch lives abroad and reads X, Y, Z while I live only 500 miles from where it happened?
Logic, eh?
Posted by QuantumPosted by UndineIndeed we are. Hence my assertion that the best source of information is what you personally see and hear with your own eyes and ears.Posted by QuantumAren't we all?Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
I've yet to see a domestic or foreign media outlet that doesn't portray the U.S. as some sort of war zone with constant gun battles...either to argue for more guns or for fewer guns...and yet it's nothing like that. At all.
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Really? What makes you believe that anything you personally witness is worth generalizing for almost an entire continent?
Posted by champrangerAre you calling BBC grapevine....😛??!Posted by UndineYes but the more times something gets passed down the grapevine, I think the more distorted it gets. Even more, there are times where people can be bribed to keep certain things under the table.
An opinion could be factual (based on facts) and still highly subjective. People disagree all the time. It doesn't make one opinion more valid than another, just because they LIVE in the country that thing they were arguing about happened!
I do understand very well what the OP was complaining about.
Let me put it in different words:
"How come that bitch disagree with my expert opinion in...*insert whatever shit you like*, if the bitch lives abroad and reads X, Y, Z while I live only 500 miles from where it happened?
Logic, eh?
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Posted by UndineWhat does the North American continent have to with the United States?Posted by QuantumPosted by UndineIndeed we are. Hence my assertion that the best source of information is what you personally see and hear with your own eyes and ears.Posted by QuantumAren't we all?Posted by UndineAll media is biased.Posted by champrangerWhy would I pick a biased source of info?Posted by UndineHow do you remain objective when your source of information contains bias?Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
I've yet to see a domestic or foreign media outlet that doesn't portray the U.S. as some sort of war zone with constant gun battles...either to argue for more guns or for fewer guns...and yet it's nothing like that. At all.
Really? What makes you believe that anything you personally witness is worth generalizing for almost an entire continent?
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I've lived in 7 different states and I've visited more than half of the states. My idea of what this country is like is far better than most AMERICANS, much less someone who lives abroad.
You can be as obtuse as you want in your justifications, but you're simply reinforcing the OP at this point.
You are all talking like we are back to the middle ages, not in the super information era!
Posted by Se7enConsider the source. Not shocking coming from a catty fucktard.Posted by NemiliciousThat's mean.
You have actual friends irl? Amazing.
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Posted by QuantumExactly. It's not just her specifically, but this shit has been rampant with her as of lately and it seriously grinds my gears.
It's good to get objective opinions, but people outside the US can suffer from media manipulation just as US citizens do. The best source of information remains your own eyes and ears, and if you don't experience the US for yourself, you simply don't know shit.
And staying a long weekend in New York or having a 4 hour layover at LAX doesn't count.
Spend a month in St. Louis or Minneapolis or Charlotte then get back to me.
I've seen it constantly via the internet though- this mentality from others who live elsewhere, going on like they know more than we do, and when we're wtf about this shit, it's "oh shut up, I know more about it than you do because blah blah."
Posted by DamnataYeeeah, I think this is what I'm dealing with. She tends to live in fantasy/views life with a seriously altered view. And that IS what this comes off as- absolutely pretentious, which is why it irks me so much. If what she was countering with was actually correct information, then I don't think it'd matter so much, but that's not the case.
If she still lives in a bubble after having visited the US...then that's not even media at that point. She's sticking by what she read over what she saw with her eyes and people who do that are easily manipulated. Nothing can be done past that point.
I mean a sound judgment should tell her that no matter what she reads, whom she talks to... unless she lives there, there is a component to life she can't gauge properly. There's only so much debating you can make from the sidelines before being a fraud to yourself. At the core of it, I'll never truly "get" gun control topics. I can make points but I don't live in that realm so there's a limit before I turn pretentious. Seems she doesn't recognize that.
"You mean you don't want a female president?" *headdesk*
I'm probably just going to avoid engaging in any sort of convo about this stuff, tbh.
Posted by DamnataI dunno about them, but I was referring to ALL media, including foreign. Every country's media is guilty of skewing what they report.
Yes, check the bolded.
Only addressed US media because topic centered on it.
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Posted by andstrollbotPoor PH. *pet*
dxp has made me more adaptable to foreigners especially americans.
i hate people that clamor for american donuts they tasted in the states but can't get here like bish shit up about those fucking donuts!
Posted by Arielle83Yeeeeah, she's used TV way too much as her source. I try to warn her that what's portrayed isn't going to be what she thinks it is, and it leads to her being disappointed in it not being what was built up on some TV show.
If you're talking about that Aussie chick, you have to realise Aussie's believe tv is real.
I'm over being compared to Terrence and Philip jokes cuz South Park is oath for them.
Their friend of a friend that went to Vancouver knows all about my country!
Can't fault her for wanting to expeirence random though. *shrugs*
Posted by QuantumIt died with the availaibility of information of what's actually going on in the world (interwebs). People are still patriotic, just not as blindly as they were before.Posted by tizianiPatrotism mostly died with Gen X.
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.
Posted by ShadowcatBetter go eat more! They're struggling as a company due to that outbreak...
But I love chipotle lol. Soooo much better than McDonald'sclick to expand
You sound like you have daddy issues or was used as a cum bucket once. Who the fuck opens a thread over a friend's opinion? Damaged goods Aries don't have anything entertaining enough to bitch about? I give you permission to block me
Posted by UndineOh sweet dumbshit, you missed the point.Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.click to expand
I see you're still as stupid and catty as always. Begone troll.
Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid*pet pet*Posted by rockyroadicecreamJust like how Americans involve themselves in other countries affairs?
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here (yes, I know, we DO have a speshul group of individuals here who can't even ID Canada on a map, but setting those embarrassments aside atm).
It is something I have never understood in all my time of viewing opinions/comments/whatever on the interwebs.
I bring this up because a friend of mine who lives in another country is OBSESSED with American culture and politics. Yet... she's not as informed as she thinks she is. Why? Media. Just as ours is pretty bad in reporting specifics due to whoever runs that outlet, theirs is just as bad, as are many countries', tbh.
Most recently, she's all pro Hilary, which is lol because her justifications are based in pure ignorance. ...and she doesn't live here. To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
What kills me is she gets snarky and know it all at times and it just pisses me off because I don't sit here and try to tell her how her country is run or act like a know it all. But because she watches American TV and watches political shit and follows what she reads in biased news, she's THE authority on this, you know..
She's like a US version of a weeabo, which is where my annoyance lies.
Any other US dwellers annoyed/baffled at foreigners who do this? I've gotten to the point where I don't know what to say without ripping into her for being such an arrogant and ignorant individual. It's like who the fuck do you think you are? Oooh, you watch a lot of American TV and watch the DNC/RNC or the State of the Union. *twirls finger* I can't count how many times her fantasy perceptions via the media have been burst by the reality of what really goes on here when she's visited a few times. "Oh, but I thought it was like this?" ...what, because you saw it on TV?? :/
Honestly, I'm not saying she's right but it's totally to be expected. Your government meddles in every significant international affair, trying to show itself as the prime example. When you do that, people will watch and observe you.
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Want a gold star? Or a state the obvious award? You get to choose, snowflake.
Posted by QuantumRight? Just recently, we had a kid from the UK, here on DXP, who was seriously convinced that this was the case here, all flustered and shit. I just remember thinking, "this poor fool is totally sucked into what his media is portraying of what's really happening..."
Indeed we are. Hence my assertion that the best source of information is what you personally see and hear with your own eyes and ears.
I've yet to see a domestic or foreign media outlet that doesn't portray the U.S. as some sort of war zone with constant gun battles...either to argue for more guns or for fewer guns...and yet it's nothing like that. At all.
"OH MAH GAWD, PEOPLE CARRY GUNS AND GET SHOT AT ALL THE TIME IN THEIR DAILY LIVES!!"
...sure. I also hulk around a giant big gulp full of sugary soda, and ride a scooter through Walmart, holding my AK to protect myself.
Though it being Walmart, this wouldn't be entirely inaccurate... :/ *cough*
Posted by Spencer00It's funny that you seem to think I give a fuck.
You sound like you have daddy issues or was used as a cum bucket once. Who the fuck opens a thread over a friend's opinion? Damaged goods Aries don't have anything entertaining enough to bitch about? I give you permission to block me
Posted by rockyroadicecreamOh really? Is some hidden wisdom in your intro...? You must have hidden it too well then!Posted by UndineOh sweet dumbshit, you missed the point.Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou could live THERE and be a total ignorant about poilitics, economics, socio-cultural trends....
Who think they know more about the US than the actual citizens who live here ( To each their own and all, but her arguments don't hold water because they're of total ignorance and obliviousness because SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE. I pointed out a few reasons why both candidates suck and she's got a lot of shady history behind her. "Oh that was disproven because I saw it in an article. Do you have insider info?" ...*eyetwitch*
:/
On the other end, many people are experts in times and areas they never lived in....
And there are plenty in between.....
Of course I have an opinion about US and what's going on there, as much as I do about Germany, France...
It doesn't mean my opinion is less valid than yours, just because it may differ and I live in the UK. If anything, being abroad give me an objective perspective on things worth talking about, becuse my reasoning ability is not clouded by petty events from my daily life in the US, and my subjective reaction to them.
I see you're still as stupid and catty as always. Begone troll.
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Let me do explain it for you.
You have been implying that "people in other countries" are not entitled to have an opinion which is different to yours, about something in the US? That they have to admit they were wrong, and you were right?
Well, to begin with, for every foreigner that has an opinion about anything in the US, there will be millions IN THE US who will have the same opinion as that foreigner and different to YOURS.
You have been implying that "people in other countries" are not entitled to have an opinion which is different to yours, about something in the US? That they have to admit they were wrong, and you were right?
Well, to begin with, for every foreigner that has an opinion about anything in the US, there will be millions IN THE US who will have the same opinion as that foreigner and different to YOURS.
I give you a reverse situation that only implies an yes or no answer. The Brexit.
My boyfriend, born and bred in the UK, voted to leave the EU.
My sister, who lived in the US for her entire adult life, would have liked the UK to remain in the EU.
Each of them could debate for ages about this subject, without changing their point of view. She has her arguments, he has his.
According to your thread, my sister would be wrong, since she does not live in the UK, so her opinion about the subject would have been distorted by mass media.
Well, the fact is that almost 50% of voters from the UK had the same opinion as my sister, and different to that of my Bf.
The fact that she never lived here means little to nothing.
My boyfriend, born and bred in the UK, voted to leave the EU.
My sister, who lived in the US for her entire adult life, would have liked the UK to remain in the EU.
Each of them could debate for ages about this subject, without changing their point of view. She has her arguments, he has his.
According to your thread, my sister would be wrong, since she does not live in the UK, so her opinion about the subject would have been distorted by mass media.
Well, the fact is that almost 50% of voters from the UK had the same opinion as my sister, and different to that of my Bf.
The fact that she never lived here means little to nothing.
Bless those globalist sheep hearts.
That's not it at all. You can have whatever opinion you want, even if it is incorrect and based in ignorance.
But...
Non-Americans are just as guilty as Americans of thinking they are somehow intellectually superior to everyone else when in fact they base their ideas on shitty media and can be completely and utterly incorrect.
It's perfectly okay for a non-American to tell an American to stay out of their business, but when an American does the same all of a sudden rectums get inflamed.
Meh.
Keep digesting your sheep food.
But...
Non-Americans are just as guilty as Americans of thinking they are somehow intellectually superior to everyone else when in fact they base their ideas on shitty media and can be completely and utterly incorrect.
It's perfectly okay for a non-American to tell an American to stay out of their business, but when an American does the same all of a sudden rectums get inflamed.
Meh.
Keep digesting your sheep food.
Glad you think you have some place discussing who needs to go outside.
Posted by QuantumJust post this as a response from here on out for these butthurt illiterates.
That's not it at all. You can have whatever opinion you want, even if it is incorrect and based in ignorance.
But...
Non-Americans are just as guilty as Americans of thinking they are somehow intellectually superior to everyone else when in fact they base their ideas on shitty media and can be completely and utterly incorrect.
It's perfectly okay for a non-American to tell an American to stay out of their business, but when an American does the same all of a sudden rectums get inflamed.
Meh.
Keep digesting your sheep food.
You don't have to give a fuck, dumbass. Go back to being a cum bucket. Be useful, run along now.
Our media is so biased, it's ridiculous. I was watching live feeds outside the DNC and RNC. The RNC had 100 protesters and 1000 cameras on them. The media reported like there were a zillion violent mobsters marching the streets of Cleveland.
At the DNC, there were thousands of angry protesters but not a single major media outlet in sight. 2000 Bernie delegates walked out before Bill Clinton's speech and were replaced with paid seat fillers that cheered on command for the rest of the convention. The Bernie delegates that remained had their signs confiscated. If you noticed that many were wearing neon green during the final night it was because the lights over their sections were dimmed so they wore a glow in the dark color as an act of protest. Some actually altered the provided Hilary signs to just say liar. Social media has hundreds of posts from the crowd and what we saw on tv didn't reflect what actually happened.
At the DNC, there were thousands of angry protesters but not a single major media outlet in sight. 2000 Bernie delegates walked out before Bill Clinton's speech and were replaced with paid seat fillers that cheered on command for the rest of the convention. The Bernie delegates that remained had their signs confiscated. If you noticed that many were wearing neon green during the final night it was because the lights over their sections were dimmed so they wore a glow in the dark color as an act of protest. Some actually altered the provided Hilary signs to just say liar. Social media has hundreds of posts from the crowd and what we saw on tv didn't reflect what actually happened.
What a political ass thread
Posted by champrangerThe outcome (conclusion) matters the most.Posted by UndineYour sister would not be wrong. It's just her understanding and reasoning that led her to that conclusion would differ than someone from the UK, regardless of whether or it's the same conclusion reached.
I give you a reverse situation that only implies an yes or no answer. The Brexit.
My boyfriend, born and bred in the UK, voted to leave the EU.
My sister, who lived in the US for her entire adult life, would have liked the UK to remain in the EU.
Each of them could debate for ages about this subject, without changing their point of view. She has her arguments, he has his.
According to your thread, my sister would be wrong, since she does not live in the UK, so her opinion about the subject would have been distorted by mass media.
Well, the fact is that almost 50% of voters from the UK had the same opinion as my sister, and different to that of my Bf.
The fact that she never lived here means little to nothing.
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American politics affects other countries which is why people who live outside the United States are eager to keep themselves educated about United States' policies, etc.
Posted by champrangerA conclusion can reflect many things. Some people dig deeper than others. Other are slower than others. Some think faster and bring more reasons to the table... some like to stick to personal reasons......all these different abilities will be enriching the cause once they discover they are on the same side. What unifies them is the common conclusion. Which trumps everything else.Posted by UndineI would disagree with that. A correct conclusion doesn't necessarily reflect the depth (or lack of depth) of your understanding of the problem involved, imo.Posted by champrangerThe outcome (conclusion) matters the most.Posted by UndineYour sister would not be wrong. It's just her understanding and reasoning that led her to that conclusion would differ than someone from the UK, regardless of whether or it's the same conclusion reached.
I give you a reverse situation that only implies an yes or no answer. The Brexit.
My boyfriend, born and bred in the UK, voted to leave the EU.
My sister, who lived in the US for her entire adult life, would have liked the UK to remain in the EU.
Each of them could debate for ages about this subject, without changing their point of view. She has her arguments, he has his.
According to your thread, my sister would be wrong, since she does not live in the UK, so her opinion about the subject would have been distorted by mass media.
Well, the fact is that almost 50% of voters from the UK had the same opinion as my sister, and different to that of my Bf.
The fact that she never lived here means little to nothing.
IMO
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Posted by GetMistedYou mean intuition....? Intuition is a most amazing "gift" to have. Some "know" the answer (and stick to it) before they think of all the questions...Posted by UndineAnd if the conclusion is derived from a "hunch"?
A conclusion can reflect many things. Some people dig deeper than others. Other are slower than others. Some think faster and bring more reasons to the table... some like to stick to personal reasons......all these different abilities will be enriching the cause once they discover they are on the same side. What unifies them is the common conclusion. Which trumps everything else.
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If it's just a "on a whim", it is unlikely to be backed up under pressure. It could change as the wind blows.
Posted by GetMistedC'mon. Even those with an IQ of 50 could reach a conclusion. Even those who think for a sec could reach one....(My Sag rising wants to add ..."look at the OP" but "Pisces moon refuses).Posted by UndineSo one's conclusion doesn't necessarily reflect one's depth of understanding?Posted by GetMistedYou mean intuition....? Intuition is a most amazing "gift" to have. Some "know" the answer (and stick to it) before they think of all the questions...Posted by UndineAnd if the conclusion is derived from a "hunch"?
A conclusion can reflect many things. Some people dig deeper than others. Other are slower than others. Some think faster and bring more reasons to the table... some like to stick to personal reasons......all these different abilities will be enriching the cause once they discover they are on the same side. What unifies them is the common conclusion. Which trumps everything else.
If it's just a "on a whim", it is unlikely to be backed up under pressure. It could change as the wind blows.
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The thing is, such "conclusions" are like soap bubbles....they burst under little pressure.
Don't expect them to admit defeat, though......losing graciously is a gift of those who think deeply 🙂.
Posted by champrangerSo what? Understanding the "meaning of a conclusion" is not going to solve the problem either! Once the consensus is reached, those who "understand the core problem" could actually go and do something about it, undisturbed by yet another argument.Posted by UndineThe common conclusion would mean very differently to each person that takes a different path to get there. If you didn't understand the core problem, even if you had the same conclusion, the meaning of the conclusion to you won't entail to actually solving the problem that caused all of this to begin with.Posted by champrangerA conclusion can reflect many things. Some people dig deeper than others. Other are slower than others. Some think faster and bring more reasons to the table... some like to stick to personal reasons......all these different abilities will be enriching the cause once they discover they are on the same side. What unifies them is the common conclusion. Which trumps everything else.Posted by UndineI would disagree with that. A correct conclusion doesn't necessarily reflect the depth (or lack of depth) of your understanding of the problem involved, imo.Posted by champrangerThe outcome (conclusion) matters the most.Posted by UndineYour sister would not be wrong. It's just her understanding and reasoning that led her to that conclusion would differ than someone from the UK, regardless of whether or it's the same conclusion reached.
I give you a reverse situation that only implies an yes or no answer. The Brexit.
My boyfriend, born and bred in the UK, voted to leave the EU.
My sister, who lived in the US for her entire adult life, would have liked the UK to remain in the EU.
Each of them could debate for ages about this subject, without changing their point of view. She has her arguments, he has his.
According to your thread, my sister would be wrong, since she does not live in the UK, so her opinion about the subject would have been distorted by mass media.
Well, the fact is that almost 50% of voters from the UK had the same opinion as my sister, and different to that of my Bf.
The fact that she never lived here means little to nothing.
IMO
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Glad my thread brought out who I was addressing. Way to make yourselves known, yo.
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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaidWe're not talking about government intervention. We're talking about citizens discussing politics.Posted by QuantumYou know damn well that the extend to which the US government meddles in foreign affairs doesn't even come close to others meddling in your affairs. The world watches you because you meddle so much and tell others what to do.
That's not it at all. You can have whatever opinion you want, even if it is incorrect and based in ignorance.
But...
Non-Americans are just as guilty as Americans of thinking they are somehow intellectually superior to everyone else when in fact they base their ideas on shitty media and can be completely and utterly incorrect.
It's perfectly okay for a non-American to tell an American to stay out of their business, but when an American does the same all of a sudden rectums get inflamed.
Meh.
Keep digesting your sheep food.
So naturally, if something occurs in your country you will have spectators.
It's pretty hilarious how some Americans in this thread are butt hurt over the fact other people are forming opinions about their affairs.
Maybe, just maybe if the US would keep its nose out of other people's business, you wouldn't have this issue.
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And if you think for a second that the US is solely complicit in world "meddling" you're daft.
There are plenty of smaller countries that use the US as their strongman to assist in the heavy lifting and the dirty work.
There are plenty of smaller countries that use the US as their strongman to assist in the heavy lifting and the dirty work.
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