Sexodus (Page 3)

Posted by tiziani

Posted by Sn1p3r187

Posted by tiziani
You can frame it however way you want it, what I'm saying is don't be soft. Where you can take responsibility for yourself, take it. Been saying it from page 2 of the thread. Very simple solutions to all the theory that was mentioned in here. Simple steps where you don't have to rely on women or anyone else to give you a handout - like divorce insurance. There's no going around in circles about these very very basic things we can all individually do to assume max responsibility for our own lives. If everyone does that, relationships get stronger as a result and everyone benefits.

Sounds like a good lifestyle choice Tiz, but do you live by it?

Yeah around 30 pounds a month around here, it's not a lot of money imo. I would never recommend anything I didn't experience myself first.

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Hmm I should possibly adapt it. But I never relied on women or anyone else to give me a handout to begin with. But true I can say relationships may benefit more.

As for grown ass men dicilpining grown ass women? Fuck no! No reason why he should have to act like a babysitter to an adult in general. Unless you have an illness.

Finally, being considered stronger backfires on us during domestic violence disputes. To the point where dude can have knife wounds in his flesh and he'll still be arrested.

Not saying its not fucked up, cause clearly it is. Just saying if anyone is entitled its women. Which this topic wasn't even about so nice job hijacking my thread.

...so there was an abudance of easy office jobs in the past? 1800s and before?
No. Here is the thing, the more wealthy the greater the gender division of labour becomes.
She had a choice back then. Work like a dog and live alone OR get a husband to take care of her.
She choose the husband unless she came from money. Hell, even then she still usually married a rich dude.

Do you honestly believe men as a whole are sociopaths? That we've do that to our mothers, daughters, sisters and wives without a single fuck to give?

Also do you think women just sat there and did nothing but be baby machines and kitchen slaves? Don't you think they would have killed their spouse in his sleep, run away or get her brothers, father and any nice guys to beat up her husband for beating her up?

That narrative is so degrading and insulting to both genders, I can't believe anyone takes it seriously.

Posted by partiallyimpartial
okay, but remember, sirhorns... you seem to forget the context we were discussing. We were talking about the limitations of women in the workplace historically.

Women weren't even allowed in combat positions until recently, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.

I also specified that I'm not talking about manual labor jobs, or more broadly- jobs where physical ability makes an impact. I was talking about those soft cushy office jobs that, as you yourself pointed out, women were only recently allowed in. And they are often passed up in favor of equally or less qualified males. And when promotions come around, they are often overlooked in favor of equally or less qualified males.


Women are (and were moreso in the past) discriminated against in jobs where physical fitness is not a factor.

I brought that up to point out that as a result, women were forced into a position where UP UNTIL RECENTLY they were dependent on men. Men who had the right to beat and rape them. Men who believed that slapping a woman who steps out of line is acceptable, because the LAW wouldn't punish a disobedient wife for them. Men who thought that a woman's role was in the kitchen, or cleaning and doing laundry. that a woman's role was obedience to her husband.

Y'know, kind of the same role a slave has?

Men who are now confused about why some women would choose NOT to go along with that narrative. These aren't men who are happy and successful with women, these are men who wonder what needs to be done to restore the proper balance between the genders, and use feminism as justification for their sexual failings.

the "great evil" that's destroying their families.

but I'm emotional for pointing that out, right?

Bad comparison. Slaves didn't have choices when it came to their masters. Their names were forcibly changed, they were whipped, beaten, or shot, or mutilated, they thrown in cages like animals, they were sold to the highest bidder and kept from their families, they tried to run-away the police would return them, and they had to deal with the overseers. Women have choices but what described was a house wife. They have choices, they file for divorce, they can put out a restraining order, they can get away from them, or they can call the police and have them sort it out on the husband with domestic abuse charges. The only great

You honestly have the audacity to compare actual slaves to all women, poor, rich, so long she didn't get drafted she was/is oppressed.

Feminism does act like a fucking cult with this brainwashing. Or at least 3rd wave. I honestly want to know which you would rather be, black slave or victorian era woman in middle class standing.
Then sell me oppression happened to both because discrimination.

There is such a thing as positive descrimination. Example, keeping the blind from driving or sickly for entering the military. Its for their sake. Or gender example, women not being required to register for the draft.

^^Horns. Chill, it's over for now man. Yes Sexism and Racism should never be compared, but chill he stated that his case. The Reds lost man, it's over, you can come home to wife and kids. Your two awesome kids Nathaniel and Superfly.

Also, no. There has never been a uptopian society.
However history condraicts your assumption that women were oppressed. They were limited by other factors, like social standing, skill set and if they wanted to breed or not.

Men have protected women throughtout history. Technology liberated women more than a movement that just profits off fear and actually helps create the hate it says is everywhere

Posted by DwellingOnMove

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Posted by LilyBlossom
*unavailable mother

Statistics say otherwise...

https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/<BR> ...
I'd love to see the statistics on unavailable mothers though.

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On the "form"al level children saw the father often enough. On the "content" level fathers were rare to catch in the old days too. (exception: the real good fathers like in the "our small farm" or "the Waltons")
Today due to many divorces ... children see their fathers less than before. In form and content he is rare to catch.
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Where was he?

Summary of this thread:
??Posts article showing men's thoughts and feelings on why they aren't dating/marrying as much.

Reactions:
??Whiners! Don't be weaklings! Man up and DEAL WITH IT!
??WOMEN HAD/HAVE IT MUCH WORSE! HOW DARE YOU FEEL WHAT WE DON'T APPROVE!

You know what's funny? I don't see or hear Cancer and Aids patients getting into pissing contests over who wins on having the worse illness. People with chronic illnesses from my experience don't want their suffering to define them. In fact, quite a few try to ease the suffering of those around them out of compassion. Even if they could use their condition to shame and silence people in that could be seen in less dire condition.

Blacks, Jews and Native Americans don't try to fight over who wins the who has the most victimized people in history. Its only when social justice warriors or various shades of feminism show up does everyone get labeled and then some obtuse perception of reality kicks in where White Men just sociopathically rapes everyone else's rights, freedoms and whatever else he wants.

They pretty much engage in the very behavior they preach against and despise, judging and dehumanizing others based on what they are instead of who they are. But since feminism movement doesn't have consistency as ...a trait, no shock hipocrisy flies over their heads and their actions go against their words.

The Republican Party included support of the ERA in its platform beginning in 1940, renewing the plank every four years until 1980. The ERA was strongly opposed by the American Federation of Labor and other labor unions, who feared the amendment would invalidate protective labor legislation for women. The Equal Rights Amendment was also opposed by Eleanor Roosevelt and most New Dealers. They felt that ERA was designed for middle class women but that working class women needed government protection. They feared that ERA would undercut the male-dominated labor unions that were a core component of the New Deal coalition. Most northern Democrats, who aligned themselves with the anti-ERA labor unions, opposed the amendment. The ERA was supported by southern Democrats and almost all Republicans.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment<BR>
Bill which would have made Men and Women be seen as equals anywhere government had power in its original wording. Wanna guess which group wasn't for that?

I really thought partialyimpartial was a girl. Once I almost posted in a thread after her and I didn't because I thought "wow, this will be offensive to partiallyimpartial."
I'm serious

"white-knight women "

let's kill him cause he is on the wrong side. I mean he did not speak for humans, he spoke for women.

those white ones who did fight for black people's rights, how were they called by the ignorants? also White knights?

whatever Nova, either we are in modern times and all parts learn to cooperate. or idk what.

Posted by GENERALIZOD
WHAT?

idk. i was asking the americans. or the well read people. there must have been some labels for those white betrayers..

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by GENERALIZOD
WHAT?

idk. i was asking the americans. or the well read people. there must have been some labels for those white betrayers..

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N*gger lovers. That's what they were called.

As for Impartial, I thought he was a chick as well. Though I swear he's projecting so much shit I almost feel pity for him.
Then he shows his ass again and remind me he just a puppet of the feminist ideology/cult.

At least eglaitrains don't have bombing post offices and threatening to various criminal acts in their history. They just want men and women to be seen as equal in the eyes of government and society.

Oh and impartial, what has feminism done for anyone not a middle class white woman lately?

Posted by SirHorns

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by GENERALIZOD
WHAT?

idk. i was asking the americans. or the well read people. there must have been some labels for those white betrayers..

N*gger lovers. That's what they were called.

As for Impartial, ... projecting so much ...

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Sir, mutable ones are bisexuell if not sexually at least mentally. we can understand all sides of the coin. and all sorts of people.

I'm wondering if a Cap can ever change his mind?

Posted by BlackNova

Posted by DwellingOnMove
whatever Nova, either we are in modern times and all parts learn to cooperate. or idk what.

yeah, human social structure is more complex than it needs to be and is mostly driven by fear and ego.
or maybe it is what it is for its own purpose?

for humanity to truely move forward we need to crack the power cells of the elite wide open and rebuild. ...

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I mean as you wrote everything is ok and belongs to the flow and let it be. But if we have concerns to design the architecture of our street, it is better we distinguish between small and big targets. playing women or men cause we are mad at them is nothing but focusing energy on the small stuff and losing against sharks.

But maybe it is our intution. we know we cannot fight the elite so we fight each other.

didn't we have that case on the scorp board where the man wanted to have a side chick after he had already 5 children with his mate? he was getting rights from the smallest Counter.

Posted by GENERALIZOD
THE INTEGRITY LEVELS OF THIS THREAD JUST WENT UP 2 POINTS!

agreed. but are you sarcastic?

Seraph, I could read your text in one breath (which does not happen often) and I liked what I read.

Posted by tiziani
So the devil makes work for idle hands?

I guess yeah. besides nobody knows if the original article is truth about a whole generation. Or only sensation from journalists.

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by SirHorns

N*gger lovers. That's what they were called.

As for Impartial, ... projecting so much ...

Sir, mutable ones are bisexuell if not sexually at least mentally. we can understand all sides of the coin. and all sorts of people.

I'm wondering if a Cap can ever change his mind?

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I can see it from may sides, cause I'm not brainwashed and actually cross reference facts given to me.
Economics and Status are more repressive then gender roles.
Gender roles are ROLES you play to be more attractive to the opposite sex in order to boost your chances of breeding and having a family. Being a parent still is seen a upgrade in status, though not nearly in the way it used to be.

The richer you are, the less you need to play by others rules to get by. The poker you are, the more reliant you are on the community to take care of you. It is not a god damn picknick being a guy.

man who asks for help, forfeits his right to it. — Male privilege.

Posted by hydorah
I really thought partialyimpartial was a girl. Once I almost posted in a thread after her and I didn't because I thought "wow, this will be offensive to partiallyimpartial."
I'm serious

If he's not a girl, he certainly missed his calling.

Posted by CapTenn

Posted by hydorah
I really thought partialyimpartial was a girl. Once I almost posted in a thread after her and I didn't because I thought "wow, this will be offensive to partiallyimpartial."
I'm serious

If he's not a girl, he certainly missed his calling.

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20 pages and some rare guests. look, what they have to say.

I am not making fun of him, I was really duped

Searph,
You realize in this context, work hard and get rich means you can buy your way out of trouble.
I'm not talking middle class, I'm talking rich. Not everyone can be rich, so its not a realistic practical solution.

Community was the wrong word, society fits more but it can be read in a national sense or global sense, hence me wanting a word that was smaller in scale.

Fuck the Illuminati. Programs for low income families was what I was getting at. However this thread is going off topic. The reason why we should care about their opinions and struggles is because they represent our future. Our future workforce and future influences for children growing on and being born now.

Call me old fashioned or just poke fun at my Capricorn priorities, but I want the future generation to not have to grow up in a decaying disfunctional society. Would rather not see a second dark ages come around and have to live and explain that the be generations before me helped cause it and mine was the one that caused society to progress backwards instead of forward.

Feminist movement has taken over dialogue in various fields, censoring information they don't like and don't even get me started on how they treat science and biology.
Feminism isn't the only thing, but it plays a noticeable part in the reasons for men's rational reactions.

It has affected academia, few male teachers mixed with ciminaling male behavior almost by drugging boys to make them less active. In fact, I could point out the lack of strong male role models in generation along with masculinity being called toxic and the push to basically give females every advantage they can receive, while males are just assumed to be more than covered, no matter what their actual circumstances are. College is just hostile to males at this point, hence why fewer are going or staying.

Drugs and video games is more appealing than dealing with their female peers. Simple. Either up your game or be ignored. Finally, that's not all they do, not a proper description of how a majority spend their time. Its more of a narrative tool to make them look like man children too selfish or scared to bother with girls. Notice how females are protected from flak for ignoring their peers, but turn the genders around and shaming tactics and assumptions fly all over the place.

Posted by partiallyimpartial

Posted by CapTenn

Posted by hydorah
I really thought partialyimpartial was a girl. Once I almost posted in a thread after her and I didn't because I thought "wow, this will be offensive to partiallyimpartial."
I'm serious

If he's not a girl, he certainly missed his calling.

maybe. I mean, I guess if its a male thing to blame your weakness on other people?

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You know what, the traditional male gender role demanded soticism, self reliance, and sacrificing his freedom in order to protect and sustain his family and society. This has been used against him to step over his rights, rob him of honor and mock him for showing any concern about it. Targeting his masculine pride.

That's cowardly and show the kind of man you are. I will remind you the men who are not t the top, actually keep society running on a daily basis. If they didn't show up for work for a day, you would not have eletricity , water, and oh let's see how you manage with most of the cops, fire fighters and doctors not doing their jobs.

On behalf of all the men treated like tools and yet still service a society that's turned its back on their suffering,

Fuck you.

Live the life!

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Or bring excuses!



Sometimes a man got to do what a man got to do. :-|

Whos emotional?
Whoops looks like my horns up your punk ass was took for emotional rage.
No its just Aries, Caps and Bulls all call bullshit when they see it.
Sometimes forgeting the sugar coated lube.
I'm sure you can go beg on the boards for some if you can't handle it.

No, that's what your cult leaders tell you they do. Their actions either attack masculinity or promote it in women, while demonizing it in men. Wanna guess which group has people saying gay male sex is misogyny?

Finally, you posted no links to back up anything you said. Also the OP showed various men of various ages feelings, perceptions of how things are and their views and concerns.

Though this hold thread you attacked them cause you disagree with them, implying their weak men,etc and when you made this focus mostly on feminism and women when it originally wasn't focus on a specific cause.

Your actions clearly show you give no fucks about their feelings at all, so why should I piss more time on you? I do have better things to do than spoon feed brainwashed white knight who can't be objective and see issues from multiple sides. You are honestly not worth my time and unlike you, I have actual morals and ethics I practice. Regardless of how it appears to some unless dude behind a screen that thinks that if the mainstream thinks its true, it is.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/11/gay-men-and-misogyny-rose-mcgowans-half-right.html<BR> For anyone else, I'd be willing to provide links even though you all can look up things yourselves.

Impartial, you started shit. I'm a Cap, we don't do the victim look. You're just upset. You just said again you give no fucks about the men due to your beliefs. You have no reason to post anymore, since your stance on the issues is clear. You can leave.

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Posted by size zero superhero

Posted by partiallyimpartial
Masculinity is being viewed negatively? Then how come people are in here trying to goad me by essentially calling me feminine?

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... effeminate, i'm saying she IS ACTUALLY a WOMAN!

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I'm done with you. politicially ignorant instead of incorrect.

yet another man who uses "woman" for intimidation? no thanks.

Do you need to be animal to care for animal's rights? black to understand their pain? poor to want to better their lives?

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Posted by Rabbit
**shrugs**

I don't think any of this has to do with feminism. I think there's an entire generation whose helicopter parents did everything for them and are too lazy to put forth any real effort into anything including relationships.

FFS college freshman in the US average a 7th grade reading level.

Way to go GenY/Parents of GenY.

was thinking the very same thing. who said life is easy?

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like any other discussion lots of energy gets wasted on polemic. nobody listens to the other side. Only a small stream of the see-through survive the whole charade.

I also think that it is a sum of several facts. plus it may not only be sexodus. maybe something else with similarity.

Never in our history we had so many pictures of vagina, dick and ah. available to 5 years old children.

The male ego is truly a fragile thing.

*picks it up and puts it next to antique chinese vases*

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Posted by Damnata
The male ego is truly a fragile thing.

*picks it up and puts it next to antique chinese vases*

*Knocks all that shit off the shelf to make room for Star Wars crap*

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If only..

Leave my antique vases alone, Rabbit.

What is it with this display of anger? You feeling oppressed?

Silly Rabbit.

Its the fact while technology made it possible to survive on your own, human hormones give no fucks. Biology still plays a part in mate selection for both genders. Now biology can be overcome with an extreme enough environment or trauma. Examples being not breeding or killing yourself.

They see the environment as hostile and the rewards of being in a relationship not worth the costs and risks.
All it really is.

Posted by partiallyimpartial

Posted by SirHorns


Its the fact while technology made it possible to survive on your own, human hormones give no fucks. Biology still plays a part in mate selection for both genders. Now biology can be overcome with an extreme enough environment or trauma. Examples being not breeding or killing yourself.

They see the environment as hostile and the rewards of being in a relationship not worth the costs and risks.
All it really is.

is this a response to me? i thought that you had enough.

i don't know what you're talking about though. i never suggested biology doesn't play a part in mate selection. biology encompasses mate selection. what does that have to do with anything?

you think that social structures and gender roles were constructed entirely by biology? You are a na??ve fool. Yes, in the sense that the more aggressive creatures naturally took control. That doesn't make it right, or relevant. Because human social structures are far more complex than just "biology" anyway. Explain matriarchal societies.

Cultures are human constructs. The patriarchy was established by the religious hierarchy. It was used to manipulate both men and women into thinking their social roles were God's will. Y'all ate it up and still do.

The point of the article is that females having rights is why men aren't doing well in college. You can't explain that other than to say that its because the men view drugs/video games/etc. as more important than relationships. Because they don't care to put in the energy it takes to deal with women. who gives a shit? They don't have to HAVE relationships. It's not the end of the world if some dudes don't procreate because its not easy enough to be worth it to them. It's either worth it or it isn't.

still not victims

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Hey Partiallyimpaired, you're a mangina. Just getting that off my chest. over and out

Posted by partiallyimpartial

Posted by SirHorns


Its the fact while technology made it possible to survive on your own, human hormones give no fucks. Biology still plays a part in mate selection for both genders. Now biology can be overcome with an extreme enough environment or trauma. Examples being not breeding or killing yourself.

They see the environment as hostile and the rewards of being in a relationship not worth the costs and risks.
All it really is.

is this a response to me? i thought that you had enough.

i don't know what you're talking about though. i never suggested biology doesn't play a part in mate selection. biology encompasses mate selection. what does that have to do with anything?

you think that social structures and gender roles were constructed entirely by biology? You are a na??ve fool. Yes, in the sense that the more aggressive creatures naturally took control. That doesn't make it right, or relevant. Because human social structures are far more complex than just "biology" anyway. Explain matriarchal societies.

Cultures are human constructs. The patriarchy was established by the religious hierarchy. It was used to manipulate both men and women into thinking their social roles were God's will. Y'all ate it up and still do.

The point of the article is that females having rights is why men aren't doing well in college. You can't explain that other than to say that its because the men view drugs/video games/etc. as more important than relationships. Because they don't care to put in the energy it takes to deal with women. who gives a shit? They don't have to HAVE relationships. It's not the end of the world if some dudes don't procreate because its not easy enough to be worth it to them. It's either worth it or it isn't.

still not victims

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There's no patriarchy. Just idiocracy which is running rampant all over and has seem to have made it's way here.

I seriously think feminism needs to take a closer look at itself and opt for a re brand. I empathize and see sense in some of the ideals but the special snowflakes of tumblr and the white knights and wolf criers of twitter have pushed this agenda too hard, managing to transform the movement as well as the idea of social justice into repulsive extremes. It does not take very long for one to find blogs of people trying to "speak" for others, quick to attack each other's integrity and accuse of sexism, racism, and bigotry (when they're all being bigots). I used to love logging into tumblr to look at pictures of all the amazing art and food I can't eat and to discover new ideas. Now I just find myself wondering if the people I subscribed to are all of the same, judgmental ilk because it feels so stifling for a website thats supposed to be about freedom of expression. If being apart of feminism and social justice means that I would associate myself with people who would refuse to acknowledge the gray and condemn others so quickly for their disagreeing views then I want no part of these ideas and people in my life.


Now, with that aside I can return to the original topic. Have I given up on women as the article claims? Not at all. I just know I'm not in the right state of mind to foster a healthy and loving relationship. I'm too self-concerned. The article sure does paint dark pictures though.

the best ones are burried.
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where's religion when we need one?

watched yesterdaywatched today on TV

"Like a Man"
I was taught to be a man
Stand on my two feet just like a man
Take all of my loss just like a man

Like a man (I stand up), like a man (I man up)
Like a man (I stand up),

When kids was playin' with unicorns, I was washin' cars tryna blow
Take a loss, get up and shake it off, and water whip the coke
No shoo-shooin', no not Boosie, to your face I'll let you know
Treat a queen like a queen and a ho like a ho
Went to the pen and I stood on my own, too fat mouth
And slangin' shit, fist fights, bitch whatever that you want do
[?] back down
I'm beatin' your ass, no exceptions
Uncle told me "Fight 'em
You can't beat 'em, go and get your weapon"
My homies died, I stood up like a man
Do what you did to them, put that on Pimp, I don't be playin'
Bossed up, every time some problems hit the fan
Me and my girl got a case
Your honor, that's mine, give me that 8

Since 15 been takin' care of my mama manly
Never say the word "why" when it's time to do for family
The way I was raised, my closest peers understand me
The man in my section like Glen Oaks is to Handy
You know they told me tell on Turk and Mel for lesser charges
Ask me what I want to say, I say I want to fuck your daughter
I was raised to get paid plenty ways like a man
Taught to get it out the mud cause they ain't puttin' it in your hand
Beef came, I bring pain, Lord knows I never ran
Whole code up in the street, you never see me on the stand

{First and foremost, what's your definition of a man?
They call y'all lil' money, that don't make that boy no man
I be sittin' here countin' these racks all day, got it hard for me to stand
And I don't need no crutches, tell the ho bring them dutches
Hit her from the back, got the pussy screamin' like
Oooh, oooh, oooh, was a virgin 'til I got my first pussy like a man
Got locked up, was movin' too fast, won't you stick to the plan
Everything I do, boy you gotta know I do for the family

Can't see my mama strugglin', I had to hit them streets like a man

You got be real
You ain't got no bottle, you ain't got no will
Let's just be honest
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You ain't got no cash
You ain't got no dollars
They stay with that drama
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--- Kid Ink featuring Dej Loaf