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Republicans hiding behind religion. You honestly think these politicians hate honorable!! Why not then make it illegal to cheat and sex before marriage

And these Christians shoving their beliefs on everyone throats. Dude what if I’m Buddhist n I don’t believe abortion is murder because I follow science. Your sense of entitlement to impose your beliefs on others. If your Christian expand your fucken minds n realize your religion is not even the oldest or the only one valid!!!
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Contraception & same sex marriage may be next:

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-thomas-said-the-court-should-reconsider-rulings-on-same-sex-marriage-2022-6?amp

What a time to be alive.

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I was just telling my girl friends I feel like I’m going crazy, or fell into some alternate timeline…. The general feel has been off for quite some time for me…
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I’m so fucking disgusted

If only I could get over the fact that Canada’s practically a frozen tundra maybe I’d consider moving there

The northern part is, but not the places where the majority of people live. But I don't think they'll take us so it's a moot point anyways 😢
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I should’ve moved when Trump was elected….
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I’m so fucking disgusted

If only I could get over the fact that Canada’s practically a frozen tundra maybe I’d consider moving there

The northern part is, but not the places where the majority of people live. But I don't think they'll take us so it's a moot point anyways 😢
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I wonder if anyone’s tried by applying through seeking asylum from the American government
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As much as I miss living in USA in some aspects, I really don’t in other aspects.

This does not set a good precedent for future issues. So much for female rights and freedom 😠

I honestly don't think it's just females that need to looking over their shoulder. Everyone except for hetero cis white middle aged men needs to be worried.
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Also, add to that “rich” which I know is relative. But more money, the better they are off.
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OH! HOW COULD I FORGET ABOUT MIRANDA!

Yeah. They restricted those rights as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/23/politics/supreme-court-miranda-rights/index.html

Buckle up for safety! We're in for a bumpy fucking ride.


WTF!?

It's hight time those assholes get impeached! This is no longer just pushing the boundaries of "good behavior"... they are acting as thought they themselves are above the law. I'm just afraid the numbers of their brainwashed, staunch supporters and the influence of those who benefit from it is greater than I would've liked to see.
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Posted by borednbeautiful

As much as I miss living in USA in some aspects, I really don’t in other aspects.

This does not set a good precedent for future issues. So much for female rights and freedom 😠

It's all medical privacy from what I've understood.. us ladies are just taking the brunt of it cause we mean nothing to those old pansy ass mofos

Edit: I mean people with uteruses
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America is essentially just two corporations and a media conglomerate wearing a trench coat at this point.

HOW IS THIS OKAY??!! HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS POINT?

My guess is a fatal mix of religious brainwashing, lack of education/lack of access to information, misinformation and ignorance on part of general populance.

Spite or a feeling of being wronged by a party can be another powerful motivator to vote a certain way.

At times it can even lead to voting against your own long term interests because the short term emotional payout is too alluring.
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Indeed! Shortsightedness can, and does tend to be damaging long term.
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The “My body, my choice” crowd were the same ones telling people to inject a vaccine into their bodies for the past couple years.

Don’t get me wrong this is terrible for those who are affected by the decision but hypocrites much?

Should probably be consistent on all issues regarding individual rights.


And the same ppl forcing women to have babies are the same ones that turn around and complain about welfare and other "government handouts" going to said women & the families they forced them to have by taking away access to a lot of alternatives.
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Yeah, this country is moronic. All the rubes vote for the party that caters to a small percentage of extremely wealthy donors..whose interests are completely against the lower and middle classes. Now, they've stacked the Court with religious zealots which not only undermines the separation of church and state but also the Separation of Powers between branches of government.
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The “My body, my choice” crowd were the same ones telling people to inject a vaccine into their bodies for the past couple years.

Don’t get me wrong this is terrible for those who are affected by the decision but hypocrites much?

Should probably be consistent on all issues regarding individual rights.

And the same ppl forcing women to have babies are the same ones that turn around and complain about welfare and other "government handouts" going to said women & the families they forced them to have by taking away access to a lot of alternatives.
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I think everyone knows I'm from the UK and it just seems weird to me we've had legalised abortion since the 60s. You can buy morning after pills from most pharmacies and a lot of contraception is tax subsidised (it ain't free).

Civil partnership or gay marriage has also been legal for sometime. The real game changer will be a gay wedding taking place in a mosque, not holding my breath for that one.

It just seems strange to me.


Logically, I’m confused and incredibly sad. It doesn’t make any sense to me rationally. It’s all religious bullshit and I’m extremely anti-religion because of the fallacy of humans.
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I honestly hope we can get out of this two party dependency and expand the other parties. I happily voted for the female Green Party candidate this last election, but this is someone most people knew nothing of because let’s face it—they don’t let any other party candidates debate publicly televised!! They don’t get the same media exposure so the average voter knows of who the media is talking about, and we all know they have their own agendas bc they’re backed financially by politicians!!! It’s truly disgusting as some people have said. Hopefully there will be a movement where people decide to get more involved and implement really positive change. We need to be moving forward not backwards, sheesh….
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America is essentially just two corporations and a media conglomerate wearing a trench coat at this point.

HOW IS THIS OKAY??!! HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS POINT?

My guess is a fatal mix of religious brainwashing, lack of education/lack of access to information, misinformation and ignorance on part of general populance.

Spite or a feeling of being wronged by a party can be another powerful motivator to vote a certain way.

At times it can even lead to voting against your own long term interests because the short term emotional payout is too alluring.

Indeed! Shortsightedness can, and does tend to be damaging long term.

"Donald Trump would not be US president without the votes of many, including Obamacare enrollees and immigrants, who are likely to find themselves worse off because of his policies. To some Democrat supporters, this widespread voting against self-interests can seem impossible to understand. To Molly Crockett, a neuroscientist and experimental psychologist at Oxford University, it makes perfect sense.

Crockett studies the psychology of punishment and has found that, rather than accept what they see as an unfair scenario, people will often choose to punish others—even at a personal cost to themselves. This desire to punish, she believes, can motivate those who feel they’re getting a bad deal to vote against the political establishment, regardless of whether the alternative is truly a better option."

"Crockett sees the popular support for Trump and Brexit as real-world examples of the punishing behavior she observes in the lab. “Some of the expressed sentiments of voters in both the [Brexit] referendum and the US election did suggest there was a motivation to punish there,” she says. “That’s certainly not going to be the case for all voters, but quotations that I’ve read from some are consistent with the things people say in our experiments, when they’re treated unfairly and they prefer to punish rather than be at the end of a bad deal.”

Crockett’s experiments have worrying implications. Firstly, her brain imaging studies show that the act of punishing engages the part of the brain that signals reward. It’s the same brain area that’s hijacked by addictive drugs. “Certainly the raw ingredients are there, behaviorally and neurally, for expressing moral outrage to have an addictive quality,” says Crockett.

She also found that people often justify their actions by saying they were trying to teach a moral lesson, rather than because the act of punishing feels good. (This remains true even when a punishment is carried out in secret, and the recipient will never know of their punishment to absorb its lesson.) In retrospect, we tend to assign a moral motive to actions that are essentially vengeance.

“Data suggests that people are telling themselves and others that they’re punishing for moral reasons when in fact the motivations are more complicated than that,” Crockett says. “The motive to harm someone who you perceived has harmed you is a very strong force.”

So, for example, a desire to punish immigrants that you perceive as having taken something from you could be reframed as an effort to create safety. It will come as no surprise, given the fractured state of politics around the world, that people inflict harsher punishments on those from different social groups."

"Social media is another troubling factor, with the potential to further fuel the desire for revenge. “I see social media as tapping into punishment motive in a couple of ways that may be harmful,” says Crockett. “We know that punishing engages the brain’s motivational circuitry and there’s an immediately gratifying aspect to punishment. When you express outrage on Facebook or Twitter, not only do you get the immediate satisfaction of posting that but you also get repeated and amplified reinforcement of that behavior because people like what you say, they share it, they re-post it—and it creates a highly self-reinforcing cycle.”

This behavior is apparent across the political spectrum, Crockett says. “I do see, on both sides, people getting sucked in to repeatedly shaming, expressing outrage,” she says. “This reinforces itself and it further drives people apart… I’m very worried about the way things are headed.”

There are no clear answers on how to reduce the desire to punish, but Crockett believes that being aware of this tendency can help temper knee-jerk acts of vengeance. Punishing others feels good in the short term, and we cannot ignore this uncomfortable truth. But if we don’t curb that tendency, the longterm consequences could be punishing for us all. "

https://qz.com/916680/the-psychology-of-punishment-is-key-to-why-people-vote-against-their-own-interests-says-an-oxford-neuroscientist/


I don’t think I can agree with the assertion that expressing outrage equals punishment but I do agree with the overall message. Like I’ve said many a time, some ppl would cut their noses just to spite their own face!? Examples of above mention actions are notable on a duality basis albeit on a smaller scale, so agreed, vengeance can be a extremely powerful motivator… tough one question remains in my mind… whom are they attempting to punish exactly!? 🤔

As for the opening sentiments of the excerpt…. also agreed on! Trumps had a surprisingly strong support among the Latinos, most notably Cubans.
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I honestly hope we can get out of this two party dependency and expand the other parties. I happily voted for the female Green Party candidate this last election, but this is someone most people knew nothing of because let’s face it—they don’t let any other party candidates debate publicly televised!! They don’t get the same media exposure so the average voter knows of who the media is talking about, and we all know they have their own agendas bc they’re backed financially by politicians!!! It’s truly disgusting as some people have said. Hopefully there will be a movement where people decide to get more involved and implement really positive change. We need to be moving forward not backwards, sheesh….


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Some fundamental changes need to take place!
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I don't even know what to say. They did this in the slickest way possible. Guarantee you had there had been less states on board with this, they wouldn't have made this decision. What do we have a federal government for?



Crazy how they are so pro life and abortion is compared to murder of kids but they won't enact gun laws after kids were murdered. Just another.background check.



Crazy af. We heading into anarchy. And they'll just sit there and hold "power" while it happens but leave a way to handle it up to the States. I hope this doesn't discourage women from fighting for their rights
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At this point they should also make assisted suicide an option. I honestly feel they should, that isn't satire or sarcasm.

It should be obvious at this point what Republicans want, and how our society works in a way. They want more men and women making babies, because that by itself it what makes our economy thrive. I will explain why, but feel free to look into it deeper yourself. The more babies from especially low income families, the more people to fill warehouse and factory positions. The more people with less schooling/ knowledge, the more they are willing to do more for less money. Look at it as an advanced form of slavery. One where you basically pay the government your earnings to continue working. Thus, working for nothing.

This is why you can see a backwards pull from Republican power. They are literally freaking tf out because our economy is failing at an alarming rate, and soon no current government power will have control over the country any more.
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Posted by capricorn1234

The “My body, my choice” crowd were the same ones telling people to inject a vaccine into their bodies for the past couple years.

Don’t get me wrong this is terrible for those who are affected by the decision but hypocrites much?

Should probably be consistent on all issues regarding individual rights.

Same Hippocrates who said no to vaccines because my body my choice
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At this point they should also make assisted suicide an option. I honestly feel they should, that isn't satire or sarcasm.

It should be obvious at this point what Republicans want, and how our society works in a way. They want more men and women making babies, because that by itself it what makes our economy thrive. I will explain why, but feel free to look into it deeper yourself. The more babies from especially low income families, the more people to fill warehouse and factory positions. The more people with less schooling/ knowledge, the more they are willing to do more for less money. Look at it as an advanced form of slavery. One where you basically pay the government your earnings to continue working. Thus, working for nothing.

This is why you can see a backwards pull from Republican power. They are literally freaking tf out because our economy is failing at an alarming rate, and soon no current government power will have control over the country any more.


They also need boys for the US Army.

Need bodies to go to war
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Good thing I’m 40 and gave up that life style .

I would close my legs to every Tom, Dick and Harpo


Honestly? I think that's not a bad plan. A collective shunning. If no one was willing to fuck, or even acknowledge these assholes, they would lose their minds.

And, if popular literature & social experiments (Lord of the Flies & Stanford Prison experiment) have taught me anything, maybe they'd turn on each other and the problem would take care of itself.
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America is essentially just two corporations and a media conglomerate wearing a trench coat at this point.

HOW IS THIS OKAY??!! HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS POINT?

My guess is a fatal mix of religious brainwashing, lack of education/lack of access to information, misinformation and ignorance on part of general populance.

Spite or a feeling of being wronged by a party can be another powerful motivator to vote a certain way.

At times it can even lead to voting against your own long term interests because the short term emotional payout is too alluring.

Indeed! Shortsightedness can, and does tend to be damaging long term.

"Donald Trump would not be US president without the votes of many, including Obamacare enrollees and immigrants, who are likely to find themselves worse off because of his policies. To some Democrat supporters, this widespread voting against self-interests can seem impossible to understand. To Molly Crockett, a neuroscientist and experimental psychologist at Oxford University, it makes perfect sense.

Crockett studies the psychology of punishment and has found that, rather than accept what they see as an unfair scenario, people will often choose to punish others—even at a personal cost to themselves. This desire to punish, she believes, can motivate those who feel they’re getting a bad deal to vote against the political establishment, regardless of whether the alternative is truly a better option."

"Crockett sees the popular support for Trump and Brexit as real-world examples of the punishing behavior she observes in the lab. “Some of the expressed sentiments of voters in both the [Brexit] referendum and the US election did suggest there was a motivation to punish there,” she says. “That’s certainly not going to be the case for all voters, but quotations that I’ve read from some are consistent with the things people say in our experiments, when they’re treated unfairly and they prefer to punish rather than be at the end of a bad deal.”

Crockett’s experiments have worrying implications. Firstly, her brain imaging studies show that the act of punishing engages the part of the brain that signals reward. It’s the same brain area that’s hijacked by addictive drugs. “Certainly the raw ingredients are there, behaviorally and neurally, for expressing moral outrage to have an addictive quality,” says Crockett.

She also found that people often justify their actions by saying they were trying to teach a moral lesson, rather than because the act of punishing feels good. (This remains true even when a punishment is carried out in secret, and the recipient will never know of their punishment to absorb its lesson.) In retrospect, we tend to assign a moral motive to actions that are essentially vengeance.

“Data suggests that people are telling themselves and others that they’re punishing for moral reasons when in fact the motivations are more complicated than that,” Crockett says. “The motive to harm someone who you perceived has harmed you is a very strong force.”

So, for example, a desire to punish immigrants that you perceive as having taken something from you could be reframed as an effort to create safety. It will come as no surprise, given the fractured state of politics around the world, that people inflict harsher punishments on those from different social groups."

"Social media is another troubling factor, with the potential to further fuel the desire for revenge. “I see social media as tapping into punishment motive in a couple of ways that may be harmful,” says Crockett. “We know that punishing engages the brain’s motivational circuitry and there’s an immediately gratifying aspect to punishment. When you express outrage on Facebook or Twitter, not only do you get the immediate satisfaction of posting that but you also get repeated and amplified reinforcement of that behavior because people like what you say, they share it, they re-post it—and it creates a highly self-reinforcing cycle.”

This behavior is apparent across the political spectrum, Crockett says. “I do see, on both sides, people getting sucked in to repeatedly shaming, expressing outrage,” she says. “This reinforces itself and it further drives people apart… I’m very worried about the way things are headed.”

There are no clear answers on how to reduce the desire to punish, but Crockett believes that being aware of this tendency can help temper knee-jerk acts of vengeance. Punishing others feels good in the short term, and we cannot ignore this uncomfortable truth. But if we don’t curb that tendency, the longterm consequences could be punishing for us all. "

https://qz.com/916680/the-psychology-of-punishment-is-key-to-why-people-vote-against-their-own-interests-says-an-oxford-neuroscientist/

I don’t think I can agree with the assertion that expressing outrage equals punishment but I do agree with the overall message. Like I’ve said many a time, some ppl would cut their noses just to spite their own face!? Examples of above mention actions are notable on a duality basis albeit on a smaller scale, so agreed, vengeance can be a extremely powerful motivator… tough one question remains in my mind… whom are they attempting to punish exactly!? 🤔

As for the opening sentiments of the excerpt…. also agreed on! Trumps had a surprisingly strong support among the Latinos, most notably Cubans.
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Cubans can’t be lumped with the rest of Latinos they don’t have the same issues the rest of the Latino community have.
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At this point they should also make assisted suicide an option. I honestly feel they should, that isn't satire or sarcasm.

It should be obvious at this point what Republicans want, and how our society works in a way. They want more men and women making babies, because that by itself it what makes our economy thrive. I will explain why, but feel free to look into it deeper yourself. The more babies from especially low income families, the more people to fill warehouse and factory positions. The more people with less schooling/ knowledge, the more they are willing to do more for less money. Look at it as an advanced form of slavery. One where you basically pay the government your earnings to continue working. Thus, working for nothing.

This is why you can see a backwards pull from Republican power. They are literally freaking tf out because our economy is failing at an alarming rate, and soon no current government power will have control over the country any more.

They also need boys for the US Army.

Need bodies to go to war
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Its sad to realize people follow a party that hides behind the idea of God, religion, morals, and high standards, only to thrive off the complete opposite of all those things. They claim to believe in God and good morals, and claim its bad to be a killer of any kind, no matter the situation. Yet have no problem giving the tools and the knowledge to the less informed on how to be a killer.

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Good thing I’m 40 and gave up that life style .

I would close my legs to every Tom, Dick and Harpo

Honestly? I think that's not a bad plan. A collective shunning. If no one was willing to fuck, or even acknowledge these assholes, they would lose their minds.

And, if popular literature & social experiments (Lord of the Flies & Stanford Prison experiment) have taught me anything, maybe they'd turn on each other and the problem would take care of itself.
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I honestly hope we can get out of this two party dependency and expand the other parties. I happily voted for the female Green Party candidate this last election, but this is someone most people knew nothing of because let’s face it—they don’t let any other party candidates debate publicly televised!! They don’t get the same media exposure so the average voter knows of who the media is talking about, and we all know they have their own agendas bc they’re backed financially by politicians!!! It’s truly disgusting as some people have said. Hopefully there will be a movement where people decide to get more involved and implement really positive change. We need to be moving forward not backwards, sheesh….

The Democratic Party is better but they swim in the same murky waters. My home state Senator (Bernie) was one of the few hopes for a rational, inclusive future not dominated by big money interests yet the Democrats colluded twice to deny his bid. It was predictable but still disappointing. Dumb ass Republican voters decry the Democrats as being so "liberal." They're not. They're basically what the Republican party was in the 80's, a center-right party that maintains the status quo..while the current Republican party is extreme right and has no plans for anything except to protect the interests of a small percentage of the 1% . It's a pretty simple to figure out when you see who's benefitting. For example, 2020 was one of the biggest transfers of wealth in the nation's history due to 'Co-vid relief.' Our $ 1200 relief checks pale in comparison to the robbery at the top..and now we'll all foot the bill through inflation.
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Republicans hiding behind religion. You honestly think these politicians hate honorable!! Why not then make it illegal to cheat and sex before marriage

And these Christians shoving their beliefs on everyone throats. Dude what if I’m Buddhist n I don’t believe abortion is murder because I follow science. Your sense of entitlement to impose your beliefs on others. If your Christian expand your fucken minds n realize your religion is not even the oldest or the only one valid!!!

It's for votes and campaign donations. Appeasing The extremist are easy votes and money. They don't actually care either. It's psychology, they have to pretend they are fighting for a cause and get you focused on that so we don't take a hard look and see how incompetent they are at running the government.

Shit like this will continue until we hit a tipping point or enough rational intelligent people step out of the side lines and start voting for better candidates regardless of party.
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Posted by Soul

At this point they should also make assisted suicide an option. I honestly feel they should, that isn't satire or sarcasm.

It should be obvious at this point what Republicans want, and how our society works in a way. They want more men and women making babies, because that by itself it what makes our economy thrive. I will explain why, but feel free to look into it deeper yourself. The more babies from especially low income families, the more people to fill warehouse and factory positions. The more people with less schooling/ knowledge, the more they are willing to do more for less money. Look at it as an advanced form of slavery. One where you basically pay the government your earnings to continue working. Thus, working for nothing.

This is why you can see a backwards pull from Republican power. They are literally freaking tf out because our economy is failing at an alarming rate, and soon no current government power will have control over the country any more.

I completely agree. It’s the persons choice, particularly elderly who have lived their lives and just want to join their loved ones that have already passed before them. Who are we to say no? Who are we to say—you MUST stay and suffer!!! *shivers*
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I think everyone knows I'm from the UK and it just seems weird to me we've had legalised abortion since the 60s. You can buy morning after pills from most pharmacies and a lot of contraception is tax subsidised (it ain't free).

Civil partnership or gay marriage has also been legal for sometime. The real game changer will be a gay wedding taking place in a mosque, not holding my breath for that one.

It just seems strange to me.

Logically, I’m confused and incredibly sad. It doesn’t make any sense to me rationally. It’s all religious bullshit and I’m extremely anti-religion because of the fallacy of humans.

it is absolutely not about religion. you think they really care about it? every religion is pretty much the same. talking about how to become a better person. and leave ppl alone. this is just about the control. religion is just a tool. they use and abuse for centuries.
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I agree partially with your statement. The worst part about religion is the followers.
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Posted by AbbyNormal

I honestly hope we can get out of this two party dependency and expand the other parties. I happily voted for the female Green Party candidate this last election, but this is someone most people knew nothing of because let’s face it—they don’t let any other party candidates debate publicly televised!! They don’t get the same media exposure so the average voter knows of who the media is talking about, and we all know they have their own agendas bc they’re backed financially by politicians!!! It’s truly disgusting as some people have said. Hopefully there will be a movement where people decide to get more involved and implement really positive change. We need to be moving forward not backwards, sheesh….

The Democratic Party is better but they swim in the same murky waters. My home state Senator (Bernie) was one of the few hopes for a rational, inclusive future not dominated by big money interests yet the Democrats colluded twice to deny his bid. It was predictable but still disappointing. Dumb ass Republican voters decry the Democrats as being so "liberal." They're not. They're basically what the Republican party was in the 80's, a center-right party that maintains the status quo..while the current Republican party is extreme right and has no plans for anything except to protect the interests of a small percentage of the 1% . It's a pretty simple to figure out when you see who's benefitting. For example, 2020 was one of the biggest transfers of wealth in the nation's history due to 'Co-vid relief.' Our $ 1200 relief checks pale in comparison to the robbery at the top..and now we'll all foot the bill through inflation.
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I literally cried when Bernie dropped out…. He was my candidate. Of all the old white men running, I trusted him.
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