War on drugs

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All drugs should be legalized. It is in the best interest of the public to do so.

The "war on drugs" and the continued criminalization of addiction has led to the formation of murderous drug cartels and the United States having the largest per capita percentage of it's population in the free world imprisoned (at tax payer expense), not to mention burdening law enforcement and clogging the courts.

What keeping drugs illegal has NOT DONE is stop the public from using them.

Prohibition is a failed policy that impinges on liberty and undervalues good old fashion individual responsibility.

P.S. this message does not endorse the alcohol culture, as alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there.
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Posted by bumboklatt
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if drugs were legalized govmnt would change drastically

thats the reason they dont legalize it IMO

imagine people on shrooms or high all the time?

society would change maybe for better or for worse? cant tell without a ttry


http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Netherlands_v_US#sthash.CP7gV0XG.dpbs




im guessing thats a US vs Netherlands comparison

well if it is:

USA is so vastly different from Europe in terms of culture . USA is more similar to Mexico than Europe

Why? cause USA is a country with "cowboy" ideals mixed with hardcore govmnt plus massive influx of immigrants cause of the open borders and high crime rates

the Dutch have a unified cultural identity (more so than the US)

USA is a profit country, nothing more, nothing less

work work work

We wouldn't be able to handle it.



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As an immigrant medical worker, I find your opinion of USA cultural diversity to be extremely flat. Nothing personal.
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And here's something more on alcohol:

"According to the study, at the individual level, booze presents the highest risk of death, followed by nicotine, cocaine and heroin, suggesting the risks of alcohol consumption have likely been underestimated in the past. Marijuana was found to be significantly less deadly and sat at the other end of the spectrum, in agreement with previous research which has consistently ranked it as the safest recreational drug. While this may not be what governments want to hear, it highlights the need to use scientific evidence whilst creating policies regarding the use of licit and illicit drugs.

It seems that much of the world made up their mind a long time ago about the dangers of illegal substances. This, combined with the fact that it’s difficult to assess and classify the risk of drug abuse in people, means that few studies exist in which scientists have compared the dangers of different drugs. Furthermore, since illegal drug abuse is regarded as a bigger problem for society than using other known harmful substances, such as alcohol and even various prescription drugs, governments have tended to go for restrictive policies that are more often than not based on emotion and educated guesses."

The study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4311234/#!po=1.50000
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" Prescriptions for opioids have risen by 300 percent over the past 10 years — a trend that has fueled, if not created a whole new heroin epidemic.1 Americans use the most opioids of any nation — twice the amount used by Canadians, who come in second place in terms of prescriptions.

So many Americans are on opioids, there's now a huge market for drugs to treat opioid-induced constipation (OIC). A major TV spot for OIC even ran during the televising of the 2016 Super Bowl.2

Meanwhile, the war on (illicit) drugs, which exacts particularly harsh punishment for minor marijuana offenses, has proven itself a miserable failure that actually contributes to the current drug abuse epidemic."

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/07/war-on-drugs-opioids.aspx
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Posted by RamOfPeace
All drugs should be legalized. It is in the best interest of the public to do so.

The "war on drugs" and the continued criminalization of addiction has led to the formation of murderous drug cartels and the United States having the largest per capita percentage of it's population in the free world imprisoned (at tax payer expense), not to mention burdening law enforcement and clogging the courts.

What keeping drugs illegal has NOT DONE is stop the public from using them.

Prohibition is a failed policy that impinges on liberty and undervalues good old fashion individual responsibility.

P.S. this message does not endorse the alcohol culture, as alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there.
AGREE 1O0%

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Posted by Impulsv
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Forbidden fruit is always sweeter.

I'm also mighty sick of pharma companies hauling money by the trillions. And tired of accidental addiction cases, because some grey haired moron decided that you need a 2 week regumen of oxycodone for your post root canal recovery.

I don't think I've ever become accidental my addicted with a months prescription after all my surgeries. I mean five major for the past five years. I agree the give them out like candy but I use what I need rest left over for emergencies

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Sadly, there are many who are either less fortunate or simply not well-educated. Also, I remember after my own surgery I received no discharge education whatsoever. Just a bunch of papers, my oxy prescription and a ride home. And NO followup from the surgeon. Which SHOULD be legally considered as malpractice, but under the circumstances it is not.

Not to refer to people as dumb, but some really NEED basic education on post-OP care at home and basic knowledge on any prescription they're taking with them.
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I just want to be able to openly smoke a joint in the park, under a tree, in the summer, and play with random people's dogs.
There's states you can legally smoke the herb now.

Ever smoked a backwoods? Perfect for outdoors and the smell when smoked masks the smell of your herbage.
Yeah, that's out in the west though. I live in NJ, medical marijuana is the only thing legal and even for that you need like stage 4 cancer or damn near blind from glaucoma. It's not like Cali where you can get some juju quack doctor to write you a script and you can get it filled at a dispensary.



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Move to MA, we're having it up for vote this November.
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I just want to be able to openly smoke a joint in the park, under a tree, in the summer, and play with random people's dogs.
There's states you can legally smoke the herb now.

Ever smoked a backwoods? Perfect for outdoors and the smell when smoked masks the smell of your herbage.
Yeah, that's out in the west though. I live in NJ, medical marijuana is the only thing legal and even for that you need like stage 4 cancer or damn near blind from glaucoma. It's not like Cali where you can get some juju quack doctor to write you a script and you can get it filled at a dispensary.



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Hey my doctor is legit-ish! we chat over Skype each year and he renews my recommendation. crippling migraine headaches you know...

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Posted by MIIeFisk
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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by MIIeFisk
I just want to be able to openly smoke a joint in the park, under a tree, in the summer, and play with random people's dogs.
There's states you can legally smoke the herb now.

Ever smoked a backwoods? Perfect for outdoors and the smell when smoked masks the smell of your herbage.
Yeah, that's out in the west though. I live in NJ, medical marijuana is the only thing legal and even for that you need like stage 4 cancer or damn near blind from glaucoma. It's not like Cali where you can get some juju quack doctor to write you a script and you can get it filled at a dispensary.


Move to MA, we're having it up for vote this November.


Even though we're only like 250 miles apart, New England winters make me ??

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HA! Tell me about it!
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Oh and one last pointer. This is just terrifically overfucked:

"America’s prisons are dangerously overcrowded, and the war on drugs is mainly to blame.

Over 50 percent of inmates currently in federal prison are there for drug offenses, according to an infographic recently released by the Federal Bureau of Prisons (see chart below). That percentage has risen fairly consistently over decades, all the way from 16 percent in 1970.

The second-largest category, immigration-related crimes, accounts for 10.6 percent of inmates. (Hold on, let me bold this shit) This means that people convicted of two broad categories of nonviolent crimes — drugs and immigration — make up over 60 percent of the U.S. prison population."

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4914884
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Posted by M143
Just because the prisons overly crowded doesnt mean you have to legalized it.

Some other countries dont detained the accused prisoner. They just put them into deathrow. Problem solve. Lol. Harsh but real.
You must be missing the point of the current situation we're in, particularly the cause and effect and the consequences that it brings. I have two nurse friends who work in correctional facilities. They bring this issue up every goddamn week.
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That's a profane ideas legalizing drugs.

I even hard time buying medication treatment for my eyes when it gets dry. It needs prescriptions by a doctor. If not then forget.

There is so called risk in your health.

This is why drugs- cocaine,shabu etc..aren't cool.

Take a dose of it...then you think differently said by many who went to prison for committing various criminal acts..most of them just jump the building where they live. And poof dead.
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Just because the prisons overly crowded doesnt mean you have to legalized it.

Some other countries dont detained the accused prisoner. They just put them into deathrow. Problem solve. Lol. Harsh but real.
You must be missing the point of the current situation we're in, particularly the cause and effect and the consequences that it brings. I have two nurse friends who work in correctional facilities. They bring this issue up every goddamn week.
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Nah. I've done my debate on this issues.

Problem: they are too focus on the person initiating war on drugs - self interest kicks in.

The person initiating war on drugs - protecting the minor,innocents and less crimes in the future.

Why are we worried about the inmates are flooding in the prisons where some of their victims are mostly innocent. They killed. They murdered. They raped innocents. Why should my heart goes out for them if they slept like a sardines.? Do hard word buddy and stop using drugs. Lol



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Posted by RamOfPeace
All drugs should be legalized. It is in the best interest of the public to do so.

The "war on drugs" and the continued criminalization of addiction has led to the formation of murderous drug cartels and the United States having the largest per capita percentage of it's population in the free world imprisoned (at tax payer expense), not to mention burdening law enforcement and clogging the courts.

What keeping drugs illegal has NOT DONE is stop the public from using them.

Prohibition is a failed policy that impinges on liberty and undervalues good old fashion individual responsibility.

P.S. this message does not endorse the alcohol culture, as alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there.
An oldie, but a goodie.

But...

Why would government legalize drugs when

they make so much more wiping out competition

and holding a monopoly on the market?

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Posted by Montgomery
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All drugs should be legalized. It is in the best interest of the public to do so.

The "war on drugs" and the continued criminalization of addiction has led to the formation of murderous drug cartels and the United States having the largest per capita percentage of it's population in the free world imprisoned (at tax payer expense), not to mention burdening law enforcement and clogging the courts.

What keeping drugs illegal has NOT DONE is stop the public from using them.

Prohibition is a failed policy that impinges on liberty and undervalues good old fashion individual responsibility.

P.S. this message does not endorse the alcohol culture, as alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there.
An oldie, but a goodie.

But...

Why would government legalize drugs when

they make so much more wiping out competition

and holding a monopoly on the market?

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Well that's the main gist of it everybody knows, yet the government denies, as usual.
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All drugs should be legalized. It is in the best interest of the public to do so.

The "war on drugs" and the continued criminalization of addiction has led to the formation of murderous drug cartels and the United States having the largest per capita percentage of it's population in the free world imprisoned (at tax payer expense), not to mention burdening law enforcement and clogging the courts.

What keeping drugs illegal has NOT DONE is stop the public from using them.

Prohibition is a failed policy that impinges on liberty and undervalues good old fashion individual responsibility.

P.S. this message does not endorse the alcohol culture, as alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there.
An oldie, but a goodie.

But...

Why would government legalize drugs when

they make so much more wiping out competition

and holding a monopoly on the market?


Well that's the main gist of it everybody knows, yet the government denies, as usual.

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I think a lot of people don't know that.

They actually believe its a moral issue and/or the govt

is trying to *protect* them or something-- of course that's

never the case... ever.



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Posted by Silvuh
I agree with all of this.

Like how much better would the world be with hemp.

But you know, Big Pharma wants to keep us all sick and miserable, so there's that.

And didn't they recently re-asses marijuana, still deeming it as dangerous as meth? Hahaha

I think it's a long uphill battle
The DEA just made Kratom a schedule 1 drug. It doesn't get u high it gives u effects like caffeine. People who w/d from heroin use it. DEA are making it illegal because it's messing with big Pharma money. It's all just a giant money scheme, the make alot of money off drugs being illegal.
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Posted by Silvuh
I agree with all of this.

Like how much better would the world be with hemp.

But you know, Big Pharma wants to keep us all sick and miserable, so there's that.

And didn't they recently re-asses marijuana, still deeming it as dangerous as meth? Hahaha

I think it's a long uphill battle
And of course, the police/prison industry. Can't make big bucks by not hosting 25% of the entire planet's prisoners, after all.