Where is Common Sense?

Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

i wonder if the gators should have a sign

Nebraska if i remember right.

Those type of events are becoming more frequent- People simply not using common sense

Yellowstone have see hella deaths recently- people going off the trail and thinking it's great idea to play in the hot springs.

Meh, natural selection.

Posted by Plagued
Where were these people from?

Nebraska, I think.

Posted by badgalbee

Posted by truecap
Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

Oh really?

It's not common sense! And imagine how that poor mother must feel. She was walking along taking pics and then boom nasty jaws comes reeling out of the water and awat goes her 2 year old...very odd that this is your response...

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Sure, it's tragic. Sure she feels horrible. I'm not doubting the horror of it.

It's not her fault. I didn't mean to imply that. Just saying, it's not the hotel's fault either.

and of course they are going to pit the responsibility on the hotel.

People can't cope and accept basic feelings of grief and self blame.

So they look for someone/something to blame, to cope with their own decisions and personal choices.

There were tons of signs- all over the beach- and yea, it's Floridia.

The child should have never been there.

Non-Floridians like to feed the seagulls and

the alligators...

Water + Yankees, often = Disaster

Posted by truecap
Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

I get you, of course it's a lawsuit waiting to happen when people are angry they want someone to blame and if they are money hungry, someone to sue ... even if it is also their stupidity ... I do get it though, in Florida I see a lot of fences put up outside of the water holes as a barrier for alligators, snakes, etc. but they are not everywhere

the strange thing I noticed is that they were searching and trying to "recover the body" and I thought that the gator most likely ingested the child - I hadn't read any further but I did hear they found some remains or something so ?

it is tragic and how awful ...

I read they have movie nights there and put out beach chairs by the water. That would be Disney hotels fault for even throwing such an event by easy access waters making people think it's a "beach"

Posted by badgalbee

Posted by HouseCleaning
i wonder if the gators should have a sign

This is not even remotely funny!

Pathetic.

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hell must be full this time of year

I believe I read that this happened at 9:15 at night.

In the dark.

You are letting your 2 year old wade in a lagoon.

In Florida.

Where gators live.

You are a fool.

Damn Yankees.

It's an accident. It's a fluke thing that happens. People should have common sense of predators in the area they are in- rattlesnakes in the desert, sharks in the ocean, gators in the coastal areas, bears in the northwest,

I can't go to the ocean without thinking of the movie Jaws.
And a lake without thinking of Lake Placid.

Posted by badgalbee

Posted by HouseCleaning
i wonder if the gators should have a sign

This is not even remotely funny!

Pathetic.

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Says the person with a Drink Bleach profile picture.

Have a seat please.

Posted by truecap
It's an accident. It's a fluke thing that happens. People should have common sense of predators in the area they are in- rattlesnakes in the desert, sharks in the ocean, gators in the coastal areas, bears in the northwest,

I can't go to the ocean without thinking of the movie Jaws.
And a lake without thinking of Lake Placid.

Those two movies are truly the ones I have always been skeptical of animal nature...

Oh and Anaconda I was hell no and sucked the life out of that panther just imagine and it has been caught on tape dying by suffocation.

And a new movie coming out is The Shallows omg that looks great..

Actually all through the area there are Beware Of Wildlife signs.

I feel so sorry for the parents. 😢

Posted by Prince_Pisces

Posted by truecap
Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

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That's traumatizing

Would you if you could and they sorta are protected though. You have to have like a semi or diesel truck.

Unfortunately common sense is not necessarily common. When it comes to human life and saftey, foolproof it should be. yes the hotel can do better.

the hub and i were debating this yesterday. he thinks it's not obvious since it's Disney World.

smh...that's some good marketing by Disney World if ppl think the place is magically protected from gators and goblins...in the alligator capital of the US!

You can't always blame parents, hotels, zoos, or whatever. Sometimes the least intelligent die. That's nature's way of saying sucks to be you.

When I was a child me and my cousin decided to go swimming in a fishing pond deep in south Georgia where they live. I was just a stupid city boy from the north, and my cousin though younger then me knew better. When my uncle caught us we got yelled at and spanked for being so stupid.

I know this situation is different, since it was a baby I'm pretty sure. So that's the parents fault for not watching or teaching their kid the dangers of the land. If they came from the north and didn't know themselves, it sucks for them they didn't have the knowledge. Then again I wouldn't go camping in the middle of a forest in Russia with nothing but a hiking stick, and that's a completely different country.

I'm glad they found the boy. How far away or where did they find him?

*rubs temples*

The only person responsible for the safety of yourself and your family is yourself. People seem to think it's everyone else's job to protect them and their kids.

Posted by fugu
the hub and i were debating this yesterday. he thinks it's not obvious since it's Disney World.

smh...that's some good marketing by Disney World if ppl think the place is magically protected from gators and goblins...in the alligator capital of the US!

That's a good point too. I've never been to Disney World but it is shocking knowing that alligators are so close.

I saw a video that was posted on YouTube and supposedly it's the same location, and the lady has her daughter, who seems around two, playing in the water, so the there must be a disconnect somewhere about the dangers of the water.

Also, was the boy swimming in the water? He was only 2/3 right? With the young girl I saw, she just was splashing. If the little boy was right at the edge doing the same maybe they didn't see the harm, idk.

Well to add perspective,I don't think anyone would suspect gators were in there. Yes, it's water,but it's Disney World and being that it is a child centric atmosphere, it would be expected that it's stated clearly that gators are in there.Every July we go see the fire works and people stand there on the lake at night. Chances are it's never crossed anyone's mind that animals are in there.

Posted by Impulsv
I'm sorry but if ur not from Florida u might not know alligator are in beaches! N around highly populated areas vs swamps.

Yeah I heard about alligators and ancondas are over there. People dropping off snakes and little gators as pets and can't take care of them overly populated much.

Plenty of candidates in this thread to be taken by alligators in the near future.

Posted by Impulsv
I'm sorry but if ur not from Florida u might not know alligator are in beaches! N around highly populated areas vs swamps.

But if you camped out in the Northwest, you'd be aware of grizzly bears, wouldn't you?

Posted by badgalbee

Posted by truecap
Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

Oh really?

It's not common sense! And imagine how that poor mother must feel. She was walking along taking pics and then boom nasty jaws comes reeling out of the water and awat goes her 2 year old...very odd that this is your response...

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Lol. If I wear a sign saying I'm dangerous and you come near me and I slap the the shit out of you, whose fault is it?
It's YOUR fault

There's a picture on tmz, I believe, of another kid standing in the shallow end of the water.

A disconnect is definitely there. Too many parents seem to let their kids play in the area.

Posted by CapTenn
I believe I read that this happened at 9:15 at night.

In the dark.

You are letting your 2 year old wade in a lagoon.

In Florida.

Where gators live.

You are a fool.

Damn Yankees.

i believe this is what is called "natural selection".

not that the poor tot had any say in it. :/

Apparently, people in Nebraska are excused from having common sense .... or, they were broke and just needed to reduce their debt.

Take your pick

Posted by badgalbee

Posted by HouseCleaning
i wonder if the gators should have a sign

This is not even remotely funny!

Pathetic.

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it's actually hilarious

Things found in Florida waters:

Alligators

Poisonous Snakes

Sharks And Stingrays

(Yes, even inland in some cases)

Big ass snapping turtles

Leeches

Big ass catfish

All of these can cause death, injury, or disease especially for small children.

Get your noses out of the electronics and learn about the natural world, asshats.

Posted by blackphase
I never even knew what actually happened.. This kid was actually swimming in the water!? The fuck.. and how is it the Alligators fault? His parents are to blame in my opinion. It's Florida.. Gators are to be expected. But no, by all means lets torture all the Gators to find the culprit.. even though the culprits are the fkn dumbass parents!

See...even the Canadian Satanist knows about gators.

Posted by Quantum

Posted by blackphase
I never even knew what actually happened.. This kid was actually swimming in the water!? The fuck.. and how is it the Alligators fault? His parents are to blame in my opinion. It's Florida.. Gators are to be expected. But no, by all means lets torture all the Gators to find the culprit.. even though the culprits are the fkn dumbass parents!

See...even the Canadian Satanist knows about gators.

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What's sad is they killed the gators. They should have just moved them. Fucking liberal assholes

Posted by Sssupes

Posted by Quantum

Posted by blackphase
I never even knew what actually happened.. This kid was actually swimming in the water!? The fuck.. and how is it the Alligators fault? His parents are to blame in my opinion. It's Florida.. Gators are to be expected. But no, by all means lets torture all the Gators to find the culprit.. even though the culprits are the fkn dumbass parents!

See...even the Canadian Satanist knows about gators.

What's sad is they killed the gators. They should have just moved them. Fucking liberal assholes

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Well...If they make fritters out of meat and belts out of the hide it might not be a total waste.

Posted by Impulsv

Posted by truecap

Posted by Impulsv
I'm sorry but if ur not from Florida u might not know alligator are in beaches! N around highly populated areas vs swamps.

But if you camped out in the Northwest, you'd be aware of grizzly bears, wouldn't you?

It's expected because ur in deep in nature but in a populated city does one expect a mountain lion when ur visiting Hollywood LA Unless u know yes mountain lions come Down.

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Bears come into populated areas.
http://fox6now.com/2016/04/09/bear-spotted-on-campus-of-wausau-hospital/

Gators can wander into populated areas as well.

All I'm saying is people should be aware of the natural predators in whatever area they choose to be.

Posted by tcta

Posted by truecap
Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

I get you, of course it's a lawsuit waiting to happen when people are angry they want someone to blame and if they are money hungry, someone to sue ... even if it is also their stupidity ... I do get it though, in Florida I see a lot of fences put up outside of the water holes as a barrier for alligators, snakes, etc. but they are not everywhere

the strange thing I noticed is that they were searching and trying to "recover the body" and I thought that the gator most likely ingested the child - I hadn't read any further but I did hear they found some remains or something so ?

it is tragic and how awful ...

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Haven't read beyond this yet, but the child's body waa found intact on the pond bottom about 15 feet from where he was taken. It's believed that he drowned and the gator released him when it realized the kid wasn't an animal.

Posted by Sssupes

Posted by Quantum

Posted by blackphase
I never even knew what actually happened.. This kid was actually swimming in the water!? The fuck.. and how is it the Alligators fault? His parents are to blame in my opinion. It's Florida.. Gators are to be expected. But no, by all means lets torture all the Gators to find the culprit.. even though the culprits are the fkn dumbass parents!

See...even the Canadian Satanist knows about gators.

What's sad is they killed the gators. They should have just moved them. Fucking liberal assholes

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Gator Land in Orlando would have helped them. I've been there.

Posted by Quantum
Things found in Florida waters:

Alligators

Poisonous Snakes

Sharks And Stingrays

(Yes, even inland in some cases)

Big ass snapping turtles

Leeches

Big ass catfish

All of these can cause death, injury, or disease especially for small children.

Get your noses out of the electronics and learn about the natural world, asshats.

the world: Australia :: the US : Florida

on alligators ... when prey animals are too large to be swallowed whole (deer, wild hogs), the alligator will stash its kill underwater, pinning it under a submerged log or anywhere it can be wedged in for safe keeping. The alligator must then wait until the prey animal's hide is rotted and soft enough for the alligator to tear off chunks. Alligator teeth are designed for crushing and for a strong grip on prey. They are not sharp teeth like a bobcat or a wolf have for tearing meat.

The entire family was there on the small beach waiting for the fireworks that happen every night. Poor kid was probably stalked for days.

Posted by Skye

http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/

While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?

Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.

Posted by SensitiveBlues
Disney world bears responsibility since there's alligators in it's man made LAKES....how is that possible...this isn't their natural habitat, they just mosied on in there and YES they should have had signs...don't swim vs. SHARK ATTACKS or ALLIGATORS two different statements...

Also i might add Disney World is created for families and CHILDREN to visit... they should have already been AHEAD of this...they should have either killed off the alligators or moved them. They knew the threats. They were aware.

This is totally negligence on the Disney Worlds part.

and they're going to get their asses handed to them in court.

Well, home owners in Florida have found alligators in their swimming pools. That's man made as well.

Posted by SensitiveBlues

Posted by truecap
Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?

you sound really judgmental and kind of idiotic.

disney world is selling a product...a safe haven for fun for kids and families

they have utterly failed.

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Disney isn't responsible for people not having common sense. I'm sure there are child molesters running around Disney as well. And snakes. And spiders.

Posted by Impulsv

Posted by truecap

Posted by Skye

http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/

While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?

Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.

It's like saying ur in Texas n u should know how to deal with a tornado coming at u if ur a visitor

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If I visited California, I'd definitely research and find out what to do in an earthquake.

Posted by Impulsv
Excatly it's presumptions to think everyone is world traveler n know every aspect of the terrain they visit watching discover channel.

Many aren't exposed
They might hear alligator / Florida but really in A pool at hotel?

Probably only imagine in swamp lands

It wasn't a pool; it's a manmade lake. With forested areas around it.

Posted by Skye

Posted by truecap

Posted by Skye

http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/

While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?

Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.

But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.

Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.

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No Swimming means this is dangerous waters. There's not a water way in Florida, natural or man made that doesn't attract alligators. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Preserve along with the Florida Visitors Bureau does as much education as they can to educate visitors about the dangers of alligators. There is information posted all over the state.

Anyone should be aware of the dangers where ever they go whether it be weather related, animal predator related, crime related, etc. It's up to each person to take responsibility for their own safety. Ignorance is no excuse.

Posted by Impulsv
Excatly it's presumptions to think everyone is world traveler n know every aspect of the terrain they visit watching discover channel.

Many aren't exposed
They might hear alligator / Florida but really in A pool at hotel?

Probably only imagine in swamp lands

And it's the hotel's fault they didn't educate themselves?

*Making a mental note to never travel with some of the posters on this thread*

Posted by tcta
on alligators ... when prey animals are too large to be swallowed whole (deer, wild hogs), the alligator will stash its kill underwater, pinning it under a submerged log or anywhere it can be wedged in for safe keeping. The alligator must then wait until the prey animal's hide is rotted and soft enough for the alligator to tear off chunks. Alligator teeth are designed for crushing and for a strong grip on prey. They are not sharp teeth like a bobcat or a wolf have for tearing meat.

so, this makes sense why the body was intact .... the gator was waiting for it to become edible