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Hm why would we worry about alligators snatching you up by a lake that happens rarely. I mean we go to a lake and worry about nothing, and we should be relaxing and chilling on a lazy day, and it's a freak accident. I mean do you go to lakes and wonder I'm going to heaven today.

Just like the recent shark attack by me in Huntington Beach, it's rare and it was an accident. We're in territory unknown or known to human . Do we go to the beach and think I'm going to heaven nope.

Plus global warming has took a toll on urban water so sharks got to go where food is at and they travel far to get it or closer than we know.

Please post a link that definitivly states "global warming has taken a toll on urban water". I'll be waiting here while you find support for YOUR UNINFORMED OPINION. Thx
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That was a typo I meant the ocean waters. Meaning the temperatures are changing most likely due to global warming so we will be seeing more creatures stirring about in known and unknown places just beware and watch your back you just never know.
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on alligators ... when prey animals are too large to be swallowed whole (deer, wild hogs), the alligator will stash its kill underwater, pinning it under a submerged log or anywhere it can be wedged in for safe keeping. The alligator must then wait until the prey animal's hide is rotted and soft enough for the alligator to tear off chunks. Alligator teeth are designed for crushing and for a strong grip on prey. They are not sharp teeth like a bobcat or a wolf have for tearing meat.
so, this makes sense why the body was intact .... the gator was waiting for it to become edible
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yes and I've also seen articles and documentary shows that say/show that they are opportunistic killers/feeders so perhaps he just wasn't all that hungry and was saving/hiding it for later - the ruckus after the snatch may/could have also caused him to stop and drop - who knows - if the above was true in that the child was too big for him to swallow whole, then it wasn't such a big gator ...
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What if someone got bit by a snake?

Should Beware of Snake signs be posted at every hotel/park/resort in the country?
Not at "every hotel/park/resort in the country"

but what's wrong with having warning signs

if the area is known to be inhabited by them?
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Too many warning signs and people won't pay attention to them.

With society the way it is, you'd have to put up a warning sign about every little thing.

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Yes... not following a "No Swimming" sign means you are ignorant. They basically told you not to get in the water and it was ignored.

They are responsible for setting basic rules for people to follow while in their park. It's not their fault people can't comprehend/follow BASIC instructions. That's on you. I didn't know the park had to babysit and handhold the parents of these children as well.
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What if someone got bit by a snake?

Should Beware of Snake signs be posted at every hotel/park/resort in the country?
Not at "every hotel/park/resort in the country"

but what's wrong with having warning signs

if the area is known to be inhabited by them?
Too many warning signs and people won't pay attention to them.

With society the way it is, you'd have to put up a warning sign about every little thing.
I think tourist attractions are responsible to warn

people of any possible danger from

harmful animals inhabiting the area if they want to

avoid any possible lawsuits.





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Well, perhaps there are brochures, signs and paperwork in the room itself...most people don't bother to read it. We have no idea what kind of paperwork the family got.
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What if someone got bit by a snake?

Should Beware of Snake signs be posted at every hotel/park/resort in the country?
Not at "every hotel/park/resort in the country"

but what's wrong with having warning signs

if the area is known to be inhabited by them?
Too many warning signs and people won't pay attention to them.

With society the way it is, you'd have to put up a warning sign about every little thing.
I think tourist attractions are responsible to warn

people of any possible danger from

harmful animals inhabiting the area if they want to

avoid any possible lawsuits.





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So you are saying that people don't have to take time to research this for themselves? That they don't have to because others should do it for them?
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Watching a news story on the tragic event of the child killed by an alligator in Florida. The hotel had a No Swimming sign, but is getting criticized for not having a Beware of Gators sign.

But come ON!

You're in Florida. Around water. Do you have to be told to beware of alligators? Really? Alligators are everywhere in Florida. It's common knowledge. You even see them on the highway for goodness sake.

I don't mean to sound cold about what happened. It's tragic and my heart hurts for it. But to blame the hotel? The alligator was in it's natural habitat. How is this the hotel's fault?
Oh really?

It's not common sense! And imagine how that poor mother must feel. She was walking along taking pics and then boom nasty jaws comes reeling out of the water and awat goes her 2 year old...very odd that this is your response...
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I heard he was playing in the water
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only a republican nutjob would insist that the parents are to blame when the company DISNEY WORLD created a situation that caused a baby to get killed.

a 2 year old at that. why have fireworks in the first place? why have a lake? why endanger children if what you're selling is "relaxation, safety, fun, etc etc"

Disney world product is FUN, happiness, SAFETY

they treetruking failed big time.


i wouldn't take my kids there ...i dont' have any..but no way...

kids do crazy things....you can't control them all the time

all this parent bashing is ridiculous

I didn't say the parents were to blame. My whole point is the hotel is not to blame either. It's common knowledge that gators are all over Florida, even in people's back yards and swimming pools, even on the highway, etc.
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http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/



While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?
Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.
But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.


Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.






Do you see a "no swimming" sign near the water and go "lets go in the water! "?
i just think no lifeguard. thats fine. my kid can splash in water, im here to watch


look the onus is on Disney world to be VERY CLEAR in these matters. THEY FAILED

and the parents about to get paid.

but who cares, they lost their child.

that's the worst thing ...
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No Swimming means no swimming, no splashing, do not go near the water. It's VERY CLEAR to stay out of the water, in my opinion
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http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/



While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?
Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.
But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.


Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.






Do you see a "no swimming" sign near the water and go "lets go in the water! "?
i just think no lifeguard. thats fine. my kid can splash in water, im here to watch


look the onus is on Disney world to be VERY CLEAR in these matters. THEY FAILED

and the parents about to get paid.

but who cares, they lost their child.

that's the worst thing ...
No Swimming means no swimming, no splashing, do not go near the water. It's VERY CLEAR to stay out of the water, in my opinion
but peoples interpretations can be different

life is not always lived by rules.

you should know that, but of course you don't. you're a cap
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There you go.

"Life is not always lived by the rules". You said this.

Rules are there for a reason. They didn't follow the rules. Tragedy happened.
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If Disney puts up a sign warning fat Iowans or sheltered New York hipsters that there are things in the water that will fucking kill you...people bitch that its scary and ruining the Disney atmosphere.

If they don't put up signs people bitch when things in the water fucking kill them.

If they compromise and put up signs that say NO SWIMMING, people ignore it and fucking get killed.

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Seriously if you can't control your TODDLER and constantly supervise, simply don't bring them out in public. If you think it's okay to let your TODDLER do as they please for even 5 mins in public, don't have kids at all?? Jfc, Americans live off of stupidity and lawsuits.

They're just butthurt they paid thousands of dollars for a trip that caused them to lose their toddler from their own stupidity.

Like seriously if you see no one else in the water, why would you think it's okay for your toddler to play by themselves. I don't get it.
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http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/



While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?
Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.
But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.


Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.






Do you see a "no swimming" sign near the water and go "lets go in the water! "?
i just think no lifeguard. thats fine. my kid can splash in water, im here to watch


look the onus is on Disney world to be VERY CLEAR in these matters. THEY FAILED

and the parents about to get paid.

but who cares, they lost their child.

that's the worst thing ...
No Swimming means no swimming, no splashing, do not go near the water. It's VERY CLEAR to stay out of the water, in my opinion
but peoples interpretations can be different

life is not always lived by rules.

you should know that, but of course you don't. you're a cap
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No they just.don't follow instructions bcuz they think they don't have to, and get away with bending the rules. This is BS.

Well, this is what they got for taking a chance in being stupid, and irresponsible with a baby. This isn't a case of a rebellious teenager, it's a fukin baby. Its counting on the parent to protect them and not put them at risk under any circumstance. ITS not like they can read amd make logical choices on their own. .

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http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/



While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?
Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.
But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.


Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.






Do you see a "no swimming" sign near the water and go "lets go in the water! "?
i just think no lifeguard. thats fine. my kid can splash in water, im here to watch


look the onus is on Disney world to be VERY CLEAR in these matters. THEY FAILED

and the parents about to get paid.

but who cares, they lost their child.

that's the worst thing ...
No Swimming means no swimming, no splashing, do not go near the water. It's VERY CLEAR to stay out of the water, in my opinion
but peoples interpretations can be different

life is not always lived by rules.

you should know that, but of course you don't. you're a cap
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Yo if you think it's okay in ANY situation to let your 2 year old toddler play near a body of water all by themselves with your head turned, alligator or no alligator, just simply don't have kids. Simple as that.

This could've been prevented if a parent had been in the water with the toddler but that wasn't even the case.

Parents are to blame 100%
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1) The kid wasn't sWIMMING

2) He was on the EDGE of the water.

2 years old can't really swim

3) Wasn't it at night?

4) They were to watch FIREWORKS

5) You're all judgemental pricks, we should be supporting the Parents in this time of horror, instead you're judging them

6) They weren't worried that some Fuking ALLIGATOR was going to snatch their baby at the DISNEY WORLD RESORT (Where safety should be paramount)

All i'm reading is non empathetic judgemental fools who love to be RIGHT instead of accepting what has happened and feeling bad for the parents for an unfortunate situation

any one of us could have had this situation occur.
1. Kid shouldn't have been in the water.

2. That's where alligators attack their prey. Turn od Discovery channel.

3. It was at night. In a lagoon -- not a lighted pool. Parent fail 101.

4. So. Stay out the water, a lagoon.......at night.

5. So. DXP suddenly has morals?

6. Because they are morons from Nebraska, only ahead of morons from Seattle in the brains department, apparently.


No, anyone halfway educated wouldn't have their toddler in a lagoon, at night, in Florida!!!
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1) The kid wasn't sWIMMING

2) He was on the EDGE of the water.

2 years old can't really swim

3) Wasn't it at night?

4) They were to watch FIREWORKS

5) You're all judgemental pricks, we should be supporting the Parents in this time of horror, instead you're judging them

6) They weren't worried that some Fuking ALLIGATOR was going to snatch their baby at the DISNEY WORLD RESORT (Where safety should be paramount)

All i'm reading is non empathetic judgemental fools who love to be RIGHT instead of accepting what has happened and feeling bad for the parents for an unfortunate situation

any one of us could have had this situation occur.
He was in the water as far as I understand...

"The boy's family was at a movie night outdoors at the Grand Floridian resort when around 9 p.m. the boy waded into about a foot of water in a lagoon, authorities have said. "
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A foot of water is quite deep for a toddler.

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1) The kid wasn't sWIMMING

2) He was on the EDGE of the water.

2 years old can't really swim

3) Wasn't it at night?

4) They were to watch FIREWORKS

5) You're all judgemental pricks, we should be supporting the Parents in this time of horror, instead you're judging them

6) They weren't worried that some Fuking ALLIGATOR was going to snatch their baby at the DISNEY WORLD RESORT (Where safety should be paramount)

All i'm reading is non empathetic judgemental fools who love to be RIGHT instead of accepting what has happened and feeling bad for the parents for an unfortunate situation

any one of us could have had this situation occur.
It's not about empathy, it's an unfortunate event that you wish on no one to have to endure. But you have to face that they were idiots in this instance, and failed their child. And now they want blood money. Bad parenting = millions
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http://ktla.com/2016/06/14/alligator-drags-child-into-lake-at-disney-resort-in-orlando/



While I do believe it's the parents responsibility to watch

their child, why does the resort only have no swimming signs?

Were there any

no wading - danger alligators signs ?
Sigh...

Exactly why I have to make my point - you're in Florida - you should automatically KNOW there is a danger of alligators.

To me a No Swimming sign is there for a reason - that means the water is not safe for various reasons and that water is NOT to be played in.
But you're assuming ALL people should automatically know

NO SWIMMING means DANGER ALLIGATOR, NO WADING.


Everyone is not from Florida and there are tourists from all

over the world that might not think the way you do.






Do you see a "no swimming" sign near the water and go "lets go in the water! "?
i just think no lifeguard. thats fine. my kid can splash in water, im here to watch


look the onus is on Disney world to be VERY CLEAR in these matters. THEY FAILED

and the parents about to get paid.

but who cares, they lost their child.

that's the worst thing ...
No Swimming means no swimming, no splashing, do not go near the water. It's VERY CLEAR to stay out of the water, in my opinion
but peoples interpretations can be different

life is not always lived by rules.

you should know that, but of course you don't. you're a cap
No they just.don't follow instructions bcuz they think they don't have to, and get away with bending the rules. This is BS. .

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Same mindset that ignores the maximum items sign in the supermarket, or ignores the merge sign on the highway only tie up traffic trying to cut in further up the line.
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a big fat sign that said

NO WADING-ALLIGATORS


How ridiculous !!!

What is in the water isn't the point ... it could have been dozens of reasons WHY patrons were told not to go in the water. the fact that it was an alligator doesn't serve more than saying "no swimming"

If you came to my house, and you saw a sign that said "beware of dog", and I had 5 dogs, all barking ..... does that mean you'll walk over to the fence and put your hand out, because I didn't specify which dog? And you think you'd have a lawsuit?

lol



This tragedy happened, because Lane's parents weren't paying attention to him ... well, that's one expense finished, now they might can afford a new mobile device, or car. I'll bet they'll pay attention to the specifics on the potential new tablets, or Honda .. to make sure it's what they want, and need and will make them happy.


That ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why he died. Not an alligator. The alligator was merely the weapon. He died because his parents were negligent in properly caring for him.

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The boy was not swimming.

Again, I've seen a pic and a video of parents allowing their kids to play in the shallow end...in the daytime, so Disney is not clear and at fault here. If you see your guests near the water knowing alligators are in there, wouldn't you going the extra mile to protect your guests by letting them know what's in the water? What is the harm in that? I don't get it. If a No Swimming sign isn't keeping them away, put up the Alligator sign. After all, the area seems to be easily accessible and basically open to the guests.
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Wondering what could have happened if this poor child was black

Feels like black lives matter more than white lives

W R O N G !!!
Personally I think most black folks would be smart enough NOT to let their kid wade around in a swamp at night.

It's the white people from the Bible Belt thinking Baby Jesus and the Mickey Mouse Resort Security Force will protect them from everything had.
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Oh FFS do we really need signs differentiating between swimming and wading?

Are people really that stupid?

JFC stop the world I want off...
If you constantly see your guest splashing in the water then yes....they are that stupid, and Disney is even more retarded for allowing it to happen.
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What?

So Disney is now at fault for dumbasses breaking rules?

JFC...
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Oh FFS do we really need signs differentiating between swimming and wading?

Are people really that stupid?

JFC stop the world I want off...
If you constantly see your guest splashing in the water then yes....they are that stupid, and Disney is even more retarded for allowing it to happen.
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As much as I approve multibullion dollar corporations getting screwed over, Disney wasn't at fault. We have a freaking seawall along our coast and it's not railed off so literally anybody can walk over to the edge, slip, and drown in seconds. There's risks everywhere. It's common sense to not allow a toddler to play by an edge of any body of water (it's not even a pool) that specifically prohibits swimming, especially by themselves. The parents can blame Disney all they want but at the end of the day they know for a fact they could've prevented this by at least having one parent be in the freaking water with the toddler.
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If a No Swimming sign isn't keeping them away


But, it has kept everyone away. It worked just fine for decades, and everyone was conscientious of the alligators, because everyone knows that Florida is a swamp and the natural habitat for American alligators. There was no reason to change a sign that was effective.

Just so it's clear, the "them" you speak of is Matt and Melissa Graves.
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Wondering what could have happened if this poor child was black

Feels like black lives matter more than white lives

W R O N G !!!
Personally I think most black folks would be smart enough NOT to let their kid wade around in a swamp at night.

It's the white people from the Bible Belt thinking Baby Jesus and the Mickey Mouse Resort Security Force will protect them from everything had.
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I actually mean Gorilla incident compared to this one.

And your skin color doesn't make you good or bad parent essentially
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People are such morons sometimes, it's amazing that we were able to evolve with more than two brain cells.


So, if you're standing barefoot in the rain, holding onto a golf club in a lightening storm ... you're just going to keep doing it, because the hotel didn't put out a sign telling you that you could get struck by the lightening?


It's the same fucking principal. A thunder storm is the natural domain for the electrical current that produces lightening rods .... just as Florida is the natural habitat for alligators. And every person living in the US knows that who is age 10 and above. Perhaps, dumdums from other countries don't do their research before travelling .. but, it's guaranteed that people living in the US knows there's Gators in Florida.

In fact, I'd be willing to wager that every single one of their people from home - family, co-workers, friends, all told them to watch out for alligators before they left for vacation.
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I read they have movie nights there and put out beach chairs by the water. That would be Disney hotels fault for even throwing such an event by easy access waters making people think it's a "beach"
Maybe so.

Not for making people think it's a beach, exactly...

but it's not like alligators won't walk right up on

shore and take your chihuahua-- they will, if they're

hungry enough.

Oh... they can run, too.

Apparently, no incident has occurred in more than

forty some odd years-- but it's still Florida.

Also

That's three horrible things that have happened, now,

in Orlando.







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Oh FFS do we really need signs differentiating between swimming and wading?

Are people really that stupid?

JFC stop the world I want off...
If you constantly see your guest splashing in the water then yes....they are that stupid, and Disney is even more retarded for allowing it to happen.
As much as I approve multibullion dollar corporations getting screwed over, Disney wasn't at fault. We have a freaking seawall along our coast and it's not railed off so literally anybody can walk over to the edge, slip, and drown in seconds. There's risks everywhere. It's common sense to not allow a toddler to play by an edge of any body of water (it's not even a pool) that specifically prohibits swimming, especially by themselves. The parents can blame Disney all they want but at the end of the day they know for a fact they could've prevented this by at least having one parent be in the freaking water with the toddler.
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In all fairness, they aren't rational, right now.

No doubt, they have the best lawyers fighting

to get their business, so they can get rich off

of Disney.

Doesn't make it right-- but that's probably what's

going on. :/




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Posted by pisceanloves
Wondering what could have happened if this poor child was black

Feels like black lives matter more than white lives

W R O N G !!!
Personally I think most black folks would be smart enough NOT to let their kid wade around in a swamp at night.

It's the white people from the Bible Belt thinking Baby Jesus and the Mickey Mouse Resort Security Force will protect them from everything had.
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I actually just heard about a story recently about some family who let their son die of Diabetes, because they thought he didn't need medical attention because Jesus would heal him. I wonder if they were from Nebraska too

I wouldn't be surprised if they were.