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Posted by CluelessCancer
Exactly Aime. These ingrates will throw around the word "racist"...racism is about power...minorities ain't got power...so we can't be racist.

but i'll stereotype your dumb azz real quick.

All i know is some of you have been judged and been found wanting....

I got a list. Keep it coming Racists.



That's why I say that most white women are vile and treacherous. They are terrible.





I feel sorry for you.
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Ha white woman feel sorry for me. What a pity.
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Try to think of it as cultural awards and not race awards. People are celebrating their culture.

Salsa is Latin culture
Hip-Hop is black culture

Awards are individualistic in nature... Asians have a culture that is collectivist but, they have award ceremonies too nowadays.

White culture is so difficult to define. In order to do so you have to separate whites into groups based on their roots: German, Italian, Irish, etc. in order to derive cultural aspects.

People who have had to literally fight to maintain their culture should be able to finally celebrate it...especially when their culture is made illegal for purpose of subversion.
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Even our names are a part of our culture.

Everyone knows the famous scene from roots that violently illustrates the stripping of culture. Kunta Kinte is viciously beaten in order to make him change his name to Tobey Waller a white name. Some as simple as a name had to be stripped away.

This is why history is important. Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. A major part of history is culture.

I tell people that racism seems to be making a come-back.


I've seen whites who are racists take advantage of whites who are culturally ignorant... they take that seed of ignorance and try to cultivate it in whites who don't really mean any harm... just lack cultural knowledge.

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Posted by P-Angel

arietteheart2, VenusAquarius and Geminivixenn all completely misunderstood the point of this thread ....

people don't seem to mind looking like fools




You said, "Black people segregate themselves, and if a white person did that, they'd be labeled racist."

I understand this thread perfectly and my response remains the same.
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Posted by Geminivixenn
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humans do not speak like that over here.. Why do you think the man in the movie (12 years a slave) was freed 😛 Of course he was.. Because was a Canadian. 🙂 It's only you 'Americans' who make a huge fcuking deal on race.. There is a lot of interracial dating here in Toronto city as if it is going out of style . We are the human race, so those of you who want to put skin pigmentation into it has no damn sense. This topic is irrelevant and all of you guys are wasting your time and supporting what will never stop if it keeps on getting talked about. Leave it behind you, and move forward with your lives and stop this black and white crap.



Yeah, Americans seem to be very race sensitive. I've never seen anything like it
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Posted by P-Angel

arietteheart2, VenusAquarius and Geminivixenn all completely misunderstood the point of this thread ....

people don't seem to mind looking like fools




You forgot some P and where it all started.


PVandJelleh, GetMisted, seraph, scorchedearth, aime7, size zero superhero
fembot, CluelessCancer, TURNDOWNFORWHAT,

This thread was intentionally side railed by the multiple's after they had five of my threads deleted when I busted strawberry and getmisted wide open AS THE SAME PERSON...

Was happy some decent people got it...the rest can go fuck themselves.
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Posted by Geminivixenn
Posted by WaterCup
Posted by Geminivixenn
Canadian 'Black'
humans do not speak like that over here.. Why do you think the man in the movie (12 years a slave) was freed 😛 Of course he was.. Because was a Canadian. 🙂 It's only you 'Americans' who make a huge fcuking deal on race.. There is a lot of interracial dating here in Toronto city as if it is going out of style . We are the human race, so those of you who want to put skin pigmentation into it has no damn sense. This topic is irrelevant and all of you guys are wasting your time and supporting what will never stop if it keeps on getting talked about. Leave it behind you, and move forward with your lives and stop this black and white crap.



Yeah, Americans seem to be very race sensitive. I've never seen anything like it





Tell me about it.. I would never want to live in America for that simple reason. *Proud Canadian* or shall I say.. Proud human being from Earth, humans seem to forget that we are all on the same planet. I strongly believe the 'government' created these country names to segregate humans.. and this is exactly why wars exist still today. It won't stop unless we as human beings decide to stop condoning it. How can we, if we keep having threads like this? Or if we have a 'Black person' saying "Omg, this white person is this or that" or a 'White person' saying "Omg, this black person is this or that".. If you read this thread, there is some of that going on.. So this thread is not to blame alone. Clueless Cancer is usually guilty for creating forums like this as well and nobody says anything to her.. She's black.. I'm half black, I'm not siding with ANYONE I am just simply saying what is fact. These topics are irrelevant in general, and obviously some people are going to post and assume differently whatever this topic was meant to be about.
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying.

Only thing is.. there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to talk about problems that still exist.

Not talking about it (unfortunately) doesn't make it go away-- idk if that's what you meant-- just my two cents.

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Posted by P-Angel

I know what this thread is saying and I completely agree with you .... the time has come to realize that all people are equal ... but, there seem to be people who refuse to accept it.



lol girl bye

tell that to the school system, the judicial system, the economic system, shit every system that was built to seperate people. Bet is a small part of that and the idea behind it was driven by white people who have been seperating us for years.
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Posted by bkbella86
Posted by P-Angel

I know what this thread is saying and I completely agree with you .... the time has come to realize that all people are equal ... but, there seem to be people who refuse to accept it.



lol girl bye

tell that to the school system, the judicial system, the economic system, shit every system that was built to seperate people. Bet is a small part of that and the idea behind it was driven by white people who have been seperating us for years.
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So what do you suggest? Payback? Will that make it all ok then?
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Posted by LetltB
Posted by bkbella86
Posted by P-Angel

I know what this thread is saying and I completely agree with you .... the time has come to realize that all people are equal ... but, there seem to be people who refuse to accept it.



lol girl bye

tell that to the school system, the judicial system, the economic system, shit every system that was built to seperate people. Bet is a small part of that and the idea behind it was driven by white people who have been seperating us for years.




So what do you suggest? Payback? Will that make it all ok then?
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why are you mad?

seriously? i need to know. dont watch it....you dont see black people bitchin all over dxp about the white dominated networks on tv who have mainly show white shows about white peoples lives. Bet is one channel. However i can name about 25 shows on tv with no black people what so ever as if they arent a part of society. or every fucking industry of america besides sports prolly, dominated by white people and dont tell me its a
eeo world cuz it aint. like what do you want from black people or what do you want black people to do? cuz last I check BET was owned by viacom which is owned by white people. YOu may wanna take ya issues up with them.
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I live about a mile and a half from the track.

My black neighbors leave town for the entire weekend during both races.

Why?

Because of the rude, insulting, and ignorant behavior of a good portion of the race crowds.

There doesn't need to be "white" in the race name to specify the preferred "type" of person welcome at the track.

Actions speak louder than words.



White people don't leave town during NBA games because they CHOOSE to stay. That's a weak retort there. If they don't want to leave town because there are too many white people that's a choice not a requirement. We have laws for harassment. To add to your comment having an awards ceremony depicting black people doesn't help either now does it?



You have absolutely no clue what happens here during race weekend vs what happens during an NBA game.

Races here can bring 250k+ people into town for 3 days. They take over the entire west side of the city. NBA games average 25k people for 3 or 4 hours. There's no comparison whatsoever. Also, look at the crowd at an NBA game...it's whiter than rice in a snowstorm.

Having a black entertainment awards program isn't stripping you of any of your rights in any form that's anywhere NEAR as harmful and offensive as residents needing to leave their own neighborhoods because they don't want to listen to racial slurs from drunk rednecks.

Is it right that the races are seperated like they are? Absolutely not.

But whites in the United States really don't have a leg to stand on when to comes to complaints about racism. The country was founded...and still operates on...white privilege unfortunately.



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Truth!!

But she choose to harp on one small part of the bigger picture. And got the nerve to blame black people.
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Posted by Geminivixenn
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Posted by LetltB
I'm not going to stoop to your level. You take that racist anger and shove it up your ass.



who said I was racist tho?

im stating facts here and you cannot handle it,boo.

and why are you angry...shove it up my ass? how intelligent of you instead of talking about the issue at hand you resort to shit like this.





You are speaking the truth indeed! Anybody who doesn't comprehend what we are talking about is an idiot. We are not trying to start drama, we are just stating facts.
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She can't even have a real debate about this. No reasoning here. And very little logic. She just chooses to be angry....lol carry on lib....you will be ok.

Maybe she's the troll, tho?
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Posted by fembot
I think the point that you're missing LIB about stations like BET is they were created and exist as an avenue for black actors, singers, hip hop artist, producers, directors, entrepreneurs etc to have their creative visions realized in an industry that overlooks minorities (all minorities not just black) and provides very little in the way of entertainment opportunities. Whether you want to admit it or not, hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole is an extremely racist and sexist industry. While I do not watch BET, I understand the reason it was originally created. The need to give black people an open door into an industry where most are shut. It's not about segregation from other races so much is it's about empowering those within your race to be more than the stereotypes and showing that faces like theirs can make it on tv. Now if the channel completely alienated all things white, or racially otherwise then I could see the point that you're trying to make about segregation. But that simply is not the case and there is nothing wrong with empowerment to be better in face of so much adversity. I'd say that that is black people "trying" as you mentioned. Do you honestly believe that even half the shows that appear on BET would be welcome on ABC or FOX or any of the mainstream channels? I can assure you if they were there would not be a BET channel, because those channels listed above receive stronger viewership, better advertisements and reach larger audience. And while they may allow the occasional black writer, actor etc they are majorly white influenced...and that's just the facts no matter how much one might wish it weren't.

You're simply holding society to a standard we haven't reached yet...and playing the racial blame game will never get us there.

oh and by the way the concept of segregation was established by the white people of that time. If blacks are doing it as you say, its behavior learned from whites. Instead of getting upset, why not find a way to help break this cycle. All my opinions of course...



You said it!! So cohesively too!
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Hey cc get fucked. No one is whining it's an observation an it is true. You wouldnt understand it from my pov obviously. But I don't really care.

And dont say "you" like I represent the wealthy upper crust cuz I'm far from it.



I don't give a flying FUK. People of this country not only have killed over 7 million Native Americans to take lands that weren't theirs, but they have enslaved millions more, and still keep them enslaved through institutionalized racism and psychological tactics.

so i will never understand your point of view, I can't envision the oppressor acting like the oppressed. It's mind boggling and unjust.

booo hooooo hoooooo nobody cares about BET, when there's boys like Trayvon Martin and countless others getting murdered all over the country...and that's systematic issues-whether a white person kills a black boy-or a black boy kills another black boy...

Poverty and Racism kills.

Ya'll talking about nonsensical things, black people don't even give a flying fuk about, how about driving without being stopped by the police just cause your a black man...

can we start with the fundamentals please.
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Yesss cc!!
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Posted by May31Baby
Who have *I* oppressed? Because I'm white of course I'm a former slave owner and always keeping the black man down. Gtfo here. Thats the problem.right there. How are we supposed to move past shit and evolve as a HUMAN RACE not just RACE when we keep acting like shit is the same as it was. No, it's not. Black people are held back if they wanna be, same as my white ass.

And wtf are you talking about white on.black or black on black.murders? What's that got to do with anything?

Idk Im not even gonna argue with you. My point is, at some point, we gotta let it all go and start fresh. Why am I or my generation punished for shit we had NOTHING TO DO WITH.

People are completely hopeless



Wrong. You better use that white privilege.

Black people are still held back by society. Not all but they are.
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Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think objectively to argue that black people are held back in todays world is just a lame excuse for not living up to your potential. You can't blame me for where you are in life... You are the master of your life not me.



Yes I agree. But lib shouldn't bitch about whites not having their own TV channels when they are the gold standard all across the world.
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Posted by SteveW
For the "white dominated channels"... Oprah Winfrey, Arsenio Hall, Steve Harvey are some blacks that come to mind that had or have their own talk show on "white dominated channels".






Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, Conan O Brien, David Letterman, Dr Phil, Maury Povich, Seth Meyers, Greg Behrendt, Dr Oz, Regis Phibin, Kelly Ripa, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Ray, Katie Couric, Carson Daly, Ellen DeGeneres, Craig Ferguson, Chelsea Handler, Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, Larry King, Ricki Lake, Bill Maher, Martha Stewart, Steve Wilkos just some whites who come to mind that have or had their own talk show.

Now you can add Tyra banks and queen latifah but that ratio is still 5:1 whites.

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have a commanding influence on; exercise control over.

I'd say that still qualifies as white dominated. -.-
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So lets see
This thread was created by a white person trying to fake outrageeeee on black entertainers being honored as segregation.

Only focusing on a black award show and not the various latin award shows.

Then whites start to get upset the "race card" is being used when this thread was started on a race card.

Ahhhhh DXP logic

This thread at its very core was made about a black award show. Saying its segregation. When I cleary pointed out pages ago that white people have won BET awards just as much in the past decade as black people have won emmy awards. So if one is allegedly segregation than so is the other.

Trying to say theres 5 black talk show hosts :O and a couple black people here and there some how negates the fact that the white to black ratio on most channels is 5:1?

So logical.

Nontheless BET awards were made so more black entertainers could get recognized. And people tryin to backtrack and say this thread is not about the awards. No. Youre wrong. It in the title FFS. This thread tried to show an example that the BET awards were self segregation, but failed to do show. Since nobody was able to argue against my facts that the BET awards had about as many white winners as the emmy awards have black winners because whites are way more represented on the TV, thus black and latin awards were made. DXP failed yet again to have a logical argument against aqua merc!

So thats about
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Posted by SteveW
Did you want a complete list of all of the black talk show hosts? Because your list is making my list look tiny and then support an argument that really holds no water. I just named some examples that came to my mind. Some others: Montel Williams. Tyra Banks. Mo'Nique. Whoopi Goldberg. Wendy Williams. Star Jones. Travis Smiley. There is more but that will do.

Question: Are there any white talk show hosts on BET?

On another thought, maybe I see the blacks and other races/ethnicities on the "white dominated" channels because I am not stewing in "blaming whitey" or thinking "whitey is the devil".

On white privilege, is there any facts, stats, or figures that suggest that it still exists today?

I think it is bogus because the majority of people that are on food stamps and other social services in America are white.



And I can name prolly 50+ more white talk show hosts over the years if I wanted to.

But thats the thing. Nobody was blaming "whitey."

This thread was made by a white person trying to outrage over black.

And now the white people are cryin and wanting so badly to be victims.

Typical.
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Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think objectively to argue that black people are held back in todays world is just a lame excuse for not living up to your potential. You can't blame me for where you are in life... You are the master of your life not me.



I disagree. And I'm not even applying that to my own life. But I have seen it with my own eyes. And I didn't blame you. I'm obviously tAlking about people with power. You aren't black so how would you know? You have no idea what black people go thru on a personal level to get where they are in life. White privilege is still alive and well especially in NYC and especially in certain industries.

Fall back if you have no intentions on understandings. You aren't black and you aren't in a position power. The mere reason Bet was created was because of white privilege and us trying to get a piece of the pie. So what are you saying again?
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I've seen white privilege all up In through my industry. So the black people I work with are lazy and not living up to there potential, when they try their hardest to advance and keep getting lame excuses as to why they aren't qualified? Even when they are?

@NYAA what's your words on that since white people aren't holding black people back?

Mind you I said some not all and you choose to harp on the some that I've mentioned so let's talk about it since you seem to believe that, that behavior from your white counterparts doesn't exist.
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Did you want a complete list of all of the black talk show hosts? Because your list is making my list look tiny and then support an argument that really holds no water. I just named some examples that came to my mind. Some others: Montel Williams. Tyra Banks. Mo'Nique. Whoopi Goldberg. Wendy Williams. Star Jones. Travis Smiley. There is more but that will do.

Question: Are there any white talk show hosts on BET?

On another thought, maybe I see the blacks and other races/ethnicities on the "white dominated" channels because I am not stewing in "blaming whitey" or thinking "whitey is the devil".

On white privilege, is there any facts, stats, or figures that suggest that it still exists today?

I think it is bogus because the majority of people that are on food stamps and other social services in America are white.



And I can name prolly 50+ more white talk show hosts over the years if I wanted to.

But thats the thing. Nobody was blaming "whitey."

This thread was made by a white person trying to outrage over black.

And now the white people are cryin and wanting so badly to be victims.

Typical.
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Check this thread again. Bkbella's comments insinuate a blame on whites. Then CluelessCancer has written some comments accusing JustaGirl as being "some white woman at her work that would try to get her fired", but that was in another thread.

I have an idea: We should send some white talk show hosts to try to get a job at BET. Have them submit an application and resume. Then when they get turned down for the job for being white, we'll have them submit a complaint to the EEOC. Then when the EEOC makes a decision that they may sue BET for Reverse Racism, they can then file a lawsuit against Viacom. Sounds like a really good idea, huh?
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Posted by SteveW
For the "white dominated channels"... Oprah Winfrey, Arsenio Hall, Steve Harvey are some blacks that come to mind that had or have their own talk show on "white dominated channels". Not to mention, blacks who dominate the NFL and NBA are aired on "white dominated channels".

As for white privilege: It existed but not really so much anymore. Blacks shooting each other up in the ghetto over bad drug deals or what have you have nothing to do with whites.

It was a white president who abolished slavery.

White people also marched in civil rights protests to end the crappy treatment that blacks were receiving during the Jim Crow law days.














All politics. And after slavery was Jim Crow. And shit if you go down south some of those rednecks still think we are living in that era. It's not a unified front we are on so stop fronting for the sake of your argument.
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Posted by P-Angel
bkbella obviously has no clue what this thread was even about.

She seems to think it's about BET .... I guess that chip her shoulder is squishing her reading comprehension/understanding skills.

Sad really ..... but, not unexpected.



I think she knows what this thread is about. How can you groan about whites not having their own television channels when you guys are viewed as the "gold standard"? And also why is it that when a person of color states their frustration, they have this "chip on their shoulder".