Why do good people get hurt?

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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.

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With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
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Yes Venus in Aries here (which is the placement I hate since I'm more earthy).... I have a diary. Yes 32 with a diary. It helps me to channel my feelings and it works overtime because I no longer go to Facebook or fly off the handle in public like I used to. So I know it works. I also write music so all my frustrations feelings and anger depression and hurt goes there. Find something that helps you meditate (you don't have to meditate long as you feel whatever you're doing is calming you and keeping you meditated). Try it for a week and see if you don't feel some peace come over you. It'll help you Chanel the feelings better.
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
Yes Venus in Aries here (which is the placement I hate since I'm more earthy).... I have a diary. Yes 32 with a diary. It helps me to channel my feelings and it works overtime because I no longer go to Facebook or fly off the handle in public like I used to. So I know it works. I also write music so all my frustrations feelings and anger depression and hurt goes there. Find something that helps you meditate (you don't have to meditate long as you feel whatever you're doing is calming you and keeping you meditated). Try it for a week and see if you don't feel some peace come over you. It'll help you Chanel the feelings better.

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Ok I also have a venus in aries too...very annoying..I'm impulsive and rush into a lot of things and kill it b4 it even starts but I'll definetly give it a try thank u
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
Yes Venus in Aries here (which is the placement I hate since I'm more earthy).... I have a diary. Yes 32 with a diary. It helps me to channel my feelings and it works overtime because I no longer go to Facebook or fly off the handle in public like I used to. So I know it works. I also write music so all my frustrations feelings and anger depression and hurt goes there. Find something that helps you meditate (you don't have to meditate long as you feel whatever you're doing is calming you and keeping you meditated). Try it for a week and see if you don't feel some peace come over you. It'll help you Chanel the feelings better.





Ok I also have a venus in aries too...very annoying..I'm impulsive and rush into a lot of things and kill it b4 it even starts but I'll definetly give it a try thank u

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That is so me lol... Hate Venus in Aries lol. I love it makes me outgoing in love but then it'll be too outgoing and I have to be like noooooo (Taurus kicks in) take it slow lol. So yes it's a learning experience. Let me know how it goes if you find something that helps.

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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
Yes Venus in Aries here (which is the placement I hate since I'm more earthy).... I have a diary. Yes 32 with a diary. It helps me to channel my feelings and it works overtime because I no longer go to Facebook or fly off the handle in public like I used to. So I know it works. I also write music so all my frustrations feelings and anger depression and hurt goes there. Find something that helps you meditate (you don't have to meditate long as you feel whatever you're doing is calming you and keeping you meditated). Try it for a week and see if you don't feel some peace come over you. It'll help you Chanel the feelings better.





Ok I also have a venus in aries too...very annoying..I'm impulsive and rush into a lot of things and kill it b4 it even starts but I'll definetly give it a try thank u


That is so me lol... Hate Venus in Aries lol. I love it makes me outgoing in love but then it'll be too outgoing and I have to be like noooooo (Taurus kicks in) take it slow lol. So yes it's a learning experience. Let me know how it goes if you find something that helps.

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lol ok and what other placements in our charts causes us to slow down bcuz I'm sure I have none
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Assholes have feelings too
Yea but for mean women..I've seen men divorce the most loving caring women...beat them... Be Alcoholics...and still unhappy with all that they have nice home..kids...just the essentials..how could someone do that to someone they once loved or called a friend with get in relationships with the foundation of friendships
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All the time & why?
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Assholes have feelings too
Yea but for mean women..I've seen men divorce the most loving caring women...beat them... Be Alcoholics...and still unhappy with all that they have nice home..kids...just the essentials..how could someone do that to someone they once loved or called a friend with get in relationships with the foundation of friendships
Nessus and Dejanira
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157 Dejanira 23 Cap 28'

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Where do u find this I'm ur chart?
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
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You just have to look at the broader picture. There is alot of issues with that type of mentality.

Eventually you will hurt someone, that's just a reality.

A good example of this is a friend of mine- This dude has been in love with her for years- She is aware of this and is married, yet still maintains a friendship with him- Even meeting him at diners at 3am if he is going through something.

In about a years time this dude has gained easily 70 pounds, the dude is massive now- and i think it's a direct result of this type of a relationship- Because it gives him hope.

She dosen't want to say "No" because she dosen't want to hurt him, but in the broader scheme of things she is actually doing more damage then if she were to just take control from the start and distant herself.

You should stop relating it to yourself. If they get hurt, i get hurt.

Not asserting yourself in any situation to avoid feeling hurt or hurting someone else...

That's not true empathy. That's called being selfish. :/
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If you know your worth, you will never be hurt by anybody.

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I do know my worth. I just can't be a total a $ $ to ppl
You don't need to be an ass to anybody. Part of being a Pisces is knowing your power. We can hurt people so much worse than they hurt us, but alot of times we choose not to. But of course, not everything is about astrology LOL!

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It's just nature. Those who are the most kind are the easiest to take advantage of, and this universe is about taking all the advantage it can get. Humans like to thank the illusion of religion, dogma, and death for this. I feel bad because I truly believe the world is a cut throat system. You either take what you can get, or bend over and pretend it feels good. I never felt peace could exist in a universe based off chaos and destruction. Most humans here are just walled off from any form of truth and living in denial. The only things thats makes any fucking sense is the nature outside that seems to be seamlessly programmed to exist. Nature makes sense, but humas make none which is exactly why most humans value animals more then then that of a child. It's an illusion. Just an illusion created to teach you how to hate yourself.

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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
You just have to look at the broader picture. There is alot of issues with that type of mentality.

Eventually you will hurt someone, that's just a reality.

A good example of this is a friend of mine- This dude has been in love with her for years- She is aware of this and is married, yet still maintains a friendship with him- Even meeting him at diners at 3am if he is going through something.

In about a years time this dude has gained easily 70 pounds, the dude is massive now- and i think it's a direct result of this type of a relationship- Because it gives him hope.

She dosen't want to say "No" because she dosen't want to hurt him, but in the broader scheme of things she is actually doing more damage then if she were to just take control from the start and distant herself.

You should stop relating it to yourself. If they get hurt, i get hurt.

Not asserting yourself in any situation to avoid feeling hurt or hurting someone else...

That's not true empathy. That's called being selfish. :/
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I understand that situation very well...So pull back and let them go from the first signs of it. When showing someone love and being there for them?
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I don't think you can afford to go through life telling yourself you're a good person. It blinds you to how you can improve. We've all done repeatedly shitty acts.
But if I have no one has ever told me how or what I did wrong they mostly come back after that person has done them wrong saying it was u all along or nothing ur a goddess but by that time my feelings have passed and I no longer feel that way...I luv like God unconditional because if God can forgive me for yesterday and I want to be more like my father then why shouldn't I give any1 else the benefit? & give forgiveness like God has given me...This world is full of people that don't have any regard or care for the next with it's man made system..climbing laters that lead to no where
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What you talking about Willis? Pisces are the clingy ones
What's wrong with that? I am to an extent and I have have a venus in aries that doesn't help at all. I just wanna cuddle feel loved..the old fashioned way...the millennium luv is non existent everyone wants to jump each other and play Russian roulette with aids and produce fatherless children
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That's not a millennial thing.

It's the human condition... failure to rise

above it is just more acceptable, now.



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I understand that situation very well...So pull back and let them go from the first signs of it. When showing someone love and being there for them?



Well each situation is different, and in today's world it's difficult to understand true intent and context thro things like facebook and text.

Ideally in a perfect world i would like to being to distant myself before they verbally share their feelings. But, it doesn't always work out like that.

Currently i am going thro this issue, and i knew back in January i would be here. I even shared that with him way back then- But was reassured that he only wanted to be friends

and now we're here, and now it sucks. Because i know we can no longer be friends. He texted me tonight offering to help me with some things he knew i had planned for this weekend. But i can't accept that.

So Just um yea- distant is key. Honestly- living in your truth. It sucks. It sucks hurting someone, it sucks loosing out on a friendship- but you do more damage in the long run if you avoid those things.

So, you know also- some people will try to manipulate the situation, use things like their well-being as a platform to try and force you to reciprocate those feelings- you just have to stay firm. If they choose to act out in this way- that's their choice, and has no bearing on you.

and yea- interpersonal relations suck.

I should become a hermit. lol

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Because being good doesn't equate to being intelligent or invincible.

Why do people think being good means you can't be hurt? Did religion convince people of such? A good person was hurt very badly while I was typing this.
Of course u will be hurt I just like to know the reason that makes ppl act that way and be so bitter and mean so if I could help someone younger dodge or put things in a better perspective I can also learn why for myself and for someone else
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For fucks sake here's the thing, everyone is the good guy from their point of view, it is also from this point of view that you see yourself as a victim or assailant etc..

There are assholes out there but there are a plethora of assholes that come in different shapes, sizes and hues.

Before you go pointing your finger at other air signs for all your problems you need to pick up a mirror and look at yourself.

From a fixed aquarian perspective I have a lot of self awarness and I hold myself accountable for everything I do. I see A LOT of piscean, mainly february ones, being mutable fish with selective memories that go out in the world getting what they want, however which way they want and they dont give a fuck who gets fucked over for it, its just their nature to be sweet but also manipulative and they tend to leave lots of mess for others to clean and debt for others to pay off....

Being friends with a piscean is like being friends with a dolphin, they are fun and happy so you go swimming with them and you hold onto their dorsal fin and rhey take you out to the deep end and they decide to go under and you just have to hold your breathe and fight for survival, thats the only way I can describe it.

Sometimes you meet a piscean that has their shit together and you think, woah this person is lovely.

But the majority are the ones convinced they are dying of cancer and that everyone is the reason
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Example: Pisces or just anyone who has a good heart. People take advantage and cling to the people that hurt them and the people that care for them and show them attention they look the other way and ignore? Why do air signs tend to do it to water signs depending on placements? But why do people do so much good for the people that hurt them the most? I know that I want to change the world but u definetly can't change people...trying to show them love and that love exist just to be shut down.
You're an empath with feelings... You want everyone to be happy and you feel if they arent happy you want to fix it... Then you think I can fix anything how can they still not be happy with the effort? We need to learn that we cannot fix everything and to let people be. That's why we get hurt. We "over" care.


With me being pisces or just who I am in general could never hurt someone no matter how hard I tried & I know there's definite consequences when we do those things and want no part of it...how can I overcome it without hurting anyone and not getting hurt myself? Do you have venus in aries?
You just have to look at the broader picture. There is alot of issues with that type of mentality.

Eventually you will hurt someone, that's just a reality.

A good example of this is a friend of mine- This dude has been in love with her for years- She is aware of this and is married, yet still maintains a friendship with him- Even meeting him at diners at 3am if he is going through something.

In about a years time this dude has gained easily 70 pounds, the dude is massive now- and i think it's a direct result of this type of a relationship- Because it gives him hope.

She dosen't want to say "No" because she dosen't want to hurt him, but in the broader scheme of things she is actually doing more damage then if she were to just take control from the start and distant herself.

You should stop relating it to yourself. If they get hurt, i get hurt.

Not asserting yourself in any situation to avoid feeling hurt or hurting someone else...

That's not true empathy. That's called being selfish. :/
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Because people are stupid. I also believe people like pain. .it makes them feel. For example when I was younger I was more moody,head strong ,and blunt. I was aloner and standoffish..at that time in my life I had the most friends and people was clinging to me. My friends at that time told me they didn't know where they stand with me and they alway felt they had to prove there friendship..they waited a few years to tell me that but I was shock. Now being older and more open and not guarded people try to get over and I fiND myself setting more boundaries. It's like people don't respect sweet people.

I also think about how people who would date the bad and instead of the good. Or how people like to be treated like shit and instead of being treated nice. ..nice become borING but mean is drama. Again I say pain makes you feel. Ask anyone to name a happy moment then ask them to name a moment when they was hurt. That hurt will bring up way more memories then a happy moment.
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For fucks sake here's the thing, everyone is the good guy from their point of view, it is also from this point of view that you see yourself as a victim or assailant etc..

There are assholes out there but there are a plethora of assholes that come in different shapes, sizes and hues.

Before you go pointing your finger at other air signs for all your problems you need to pick up a mirror and look at yourself.

From a fixed aquarian perspective I have a lot of self awarness and I hold myself accountable for everything I do. I see A LOT of piscean, mainly february ones, being mutable fish with selective memories that go out in the world getting what they want, however which way they want and they dont give a fuck who gets fucked over for it, its just their nature to be sweet but also manipulative and they tend to leave lots of mess for others to clean and debt for others to pay off....

Being friends with a piscean is like being friends with a dolphin, they are fun and happy so you go swimming with them and you hold onto their dorsal fin and rhey take you out to the deep end and they decide to go under and you just have to hold your breathe and fight for survival, thats the only way I can describe it.

Sometimes you meet a piscean that has their shit together and you think, woah this person is lovely.

But the majority are the ones convinced they are dying of cancer and that everyone is the reason
Only reason why I brought up air because not all but the ones I have encountered have been that way and haven't met one to show me any different bot saying u r like that but the ones I know have ran to caps mainly or just anyone one that shows lack of interest
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Good people get hurt because they always try to see the best in people.

Even in people who are bad or have bad intentions.

They try to stick around and help these broken people and often times get broken themselves in the process.

Break me a thousand times. It'll just make me a thousand times stronger haha
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When you posture yourself to be a victim, there's no other spot for the rest of the world to fit in than to be the abuser. You set all of them up, you shove them in that role because it fits your narrative. Do abusive people exist? Hell yeah. In how high a number? I'll say that the only people I've met who felt the entire world was against them and made a point to state this plently were people that were willingly seting the scene for it to happen. They wanted to take no control or responsibility of their life and what other way to go about it than assume victimhood aka it's out of their control.

I remember this Pisces chick 6 years ago that addressed some myths about Pisces.

"We Give Lot To Others - Yes and we don't ask for much in return because it makes us feel icky. The we get passive aggressive and wonder why other people aren't helping. Then we figure that they don't really love us because they won't put their laundry away

We Are So Positive And Make Other Sign People Positive - Well that depends.. are you on drugs? If I'm being overly positive it's because I'm drunk or trying to ignore reality.

We Never Hurt Anyone but other sign people easily hurt us - Um I've hurt lots of people. When I was younger I never, ever stayed in a relationship and have only been faithful to one person my entire life. I say this with a Pisces sun, Virgo moon, Virgo ascendant and Venus in Pisces. I am sure there are some that BELIEVE they've never hurt anyone but then again they're more than likely just ignoring reality.

We Always Care About Others People Feelings - Again no. There are lots of people who I could care less how they feel or what they think. I've actually said, "Oh I'm sorry are you paying my bills? No? Well then you are irrelevant."
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In ordinary situations, Pisces tends to be the victim. We can meet this figure in many Pisceans - they are the ones who are taken advantaged of, used, bled white for money and sympathy, held in bondage through their sympathy, made to feel obligated through their tendency to feel guilty for everybody else's sync. It is almost inevitably the Pisces who stays with the violent husband, nurses the schizophrenic wife, raises the retarded child, supports the ailing mother, gives up this, that or the other thing to help somebody else. It is sometimes very hard to tell whether these are the noblest or the silliest of human beings; and whether they are truly saints, or wield a tremendous power through making the other guy feel hopelessly obliged. Nobody has quite as much power as a martyr. Maybe it's a little of both.

In The Iceman Cometh by Eugene O'Neill there is a character named Harry: an ordinary sort of man with the usual array of vices and virtues. And Harry has a wife who, although we don't know whether Eugene O'Neill practised astrology, must surely be a Pisces. Harry's wife forgives him for everything. No matter how abusive he is, no matter how badly he treats her, she never raises her voice in anger, or rebels, or shows a little bitchiness herself. She always, always forgives. And of course it makes Harry worse. If you make anybody feel guilty, then they will resent you, then they're going to treat you even more badly the next time. So Harry's treatment of his wife goes downhill, from bad to abominable. Soon he is beating her, bringing other women into the house, and other favorite pastimes of the Right Bastard. And Harry's wife does the natural Piscean thing: she forgives. She understands. She has compassion. She makes Harry feel so guilty, so terrible, that of course at the end he has to kill her. He simply has to. That's why saints are always martyred. Saints they may be; but they make the rest of us feel blacker. And anyone who poses as a saint is shirking his share of common evil, and reaps it triplefold

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Pisces is sometimes called the sign of self-undoing. And it is important to remember that it's truly self-undoing with Pisces, never the undoing of others. Pisces often has such a wealth of talent and vision that he is one of the most blessed of men. Yet so often his life is a failure. And this is because of his shadow: his visions of self-aggrandisement are so often too large, much too immense to ever be fulfilled, so he's doomed to self-disappointment and self-disgust. And his bitterness at life can erode him, because he feels betrayed by it.

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When you posture yourself to be a victim, there's no other spot for the rest of the world to fit in than to be the abuser. You set all of them up, you shove them in that role because it fits your narrative. Do abusive people exist? Hell yeah. In how high a number? I'll say that the only people I've met who felt the entire world was against them and made a point to state this plently were people that were willingly seting the scene for it to happen. They wanted to take no control or responsibility of their life and what other way to go about it than assume victimhood aka it's out of their control.

I remember this Pisces chick 6 years ago that addressed some myths about Pisces.

"We Give Lot To Others - Yes and we don't ask for much in return because it makes us feel icky. The we get passive aggressive and wonder why other people aren't helping. Then we figure that they don't really love us because they won't put their laundry away

We Are So Positive And Make Other Sign People Positive - Well that depends.. are you on drugs? If I'm being overly positive it's because I'm drunk or trying to ignore reality.

We Never Hurt Anyone but other sign people easily hurt us - Um I've hurt lots of people. When I was younger I never, ever stayed in a relationship and have only been faithful to one person my entire life. I say this with a Pisces sun, Virgo moon, Virgo ascendant and Venus in Pisces. I am sure there are some that BELIEVE they've never hurt anyone but then again they're more than likely just ignoring reality.

We Always Care About Others People Feelings - Again no. There are lots of people who I could care less how they feel or what they think. I've actually said, "Oh I'm sorry are you paying my bills? No? Well then you are irrelevant."
I don't feel like it's playing the victim I've just notice it's a lot of cruel ppl out there and I've even had my clients say I've done so much good for ppl in my life and lose hope when they come across ppl who dnt wanna work and do their job to give better care. It shouldn't be that people wouldn't care if any1 is hurting or not stopping to help there fellow man not saying multiple times but at least once I've even had this homeless guy I was constantly doing things for but stopped when I realize he had other options and I shouldnt enable him any longer for him to get comfortable or maybe he was panhandling don't know but I felt if any1 has the courage to be out there and also in texas heat why not. No victim and with everyone being on the defense feeling weird when ppl ask what's wrong feeling weird when ppl open the door for them feeling weird when others show kindness showing no compassion and having to raise up kids in a cruel world there are choices but it doesn't always have to be the python effect.
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In ordinary situations, Pisces tends to be the victim. We can meet this figure in many Pisceans - they are the ones who are taken advantaged of, used, bled white for money and sympathy, held in bondage through their sympathy, made to feel obligated through their tendency to feel guilty for everybody else's sync. It is almost inevitably the Pisces who stays with the violent husband, nurses the schizophrenic wife, raises the retarded child, supports the ailing mother, gives up this, that or the other thing to help somebody else. It is sometimes very hard to tell whether these are the noblest or the silliest of human beings; and whether they are truly saints, or wield a tremendous power through making the other guy feel hopelessly obliged. Nobody has quite as much power as a martyr. Maybe it's a little of both.

In The Iceman Cometh by Eugene O'Neill there is a character named Harry: an ordinary sort of man with the usual array of vices and virtues. And Harry has a wife who, although we don't know whether Eugene O'Neill practised astrology, must surely be a Pisces. Harry's wife forgives him for everything. No matter how abusive he is, no matter how badly he treats her, she never raises her voice in anger, or rebels, or shows a little bitchiness herself. She always, always forgives. And of course it makes Harry worse. If you make anybody feel guilty, then they will resent you, then they're going to treat you even more badly the next time. So Harry's treatment of his wife goes downhill, from bad to abominable. Soon he is beating her, bringing other women into the house, and other favorite pastimes of the Right Bastard. And Harry's wife does the natural Piscean thing: she forgives. She understands. She has compassion. She makes Harry feel so guilty, so terrible, that of course at the end he has to kill her. He simply has



Yes we only had 1 savior & I'm not trying to replace him but only to be more like my father. We are all human and imperfect but forgiveness is key...anybody who does not believe in unconditional love doesn't believe in forgiveness because they go hand and hand and so because no one is perfect when u find urself at the end of the stick needing forgiveness how do u expect to receive forgiveness if u urself can't dish it... God calls all not just some...Good Samaritan...give ppl room to change but I got some good advice earlier in regards to this and plan on implementing it in my own life and know that some things I just can't fix but to just do what I can for those that would adhere and leave the rest to God to line someone else up for that person and learn to let go for the sake of both parties. Life is an experience and I am one and have touched many lives on the way...not going to let bad apples ruin my bunch and be tainted.
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Posted by P3n3lop3
I've just notice it's a lot of cruel ppl out there
Way more kind and caring people out there than cruel, by a long shot. If you think in terms of sheer numbers, you'll see it. But sure as hell can't see it through just one lens. It's like watching the news..you develop an outlook where the world is negative and full of evil.

Try to come up with an aproximation. How many cruel people have you personally met? Gauge a number up til this point. Then realize that all other people you ran into weren't cruel. Most are neutral, mind their business. Some really good ones, some great ones. If you narrow it down to percentages you'll see.

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It shouldn't be that people wouldn't care if any1 is hurting or not stopping to help there fellow man
What should or should not be is not really our call as far as other people's actions go. Maybe there is something out there that escapes our collective awareness. We don't know why some dynamics play the way they do.

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with everyone being on the defense feeling weird when ppl ask what's wrong feeling weird when ppl open the door for them feeling weird when others show kindness
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You're assuming the feeling weird happens because it's so rare for people to experience kindness.It's not. It's really on a case by case basis.

Studies show that positive memories last longer so for the negative memories to overcome this, it can only be depression. It's not the natural mindset.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27193607
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What you talking about Willis? Pisces are the clingy ones
What's wrong with that? I am to an extent and I have have a venus in aries that doesn't help at all. I just wanna cuddle feel loved..the old fashioned way...the millennium luv is non existent everyone wants to jump each other and play Russian roulette with aids and produce fatherless children
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That's way too deep a conversation for 6 am.