You want to stop the gun violence, Obama? (Page 2)

You are on page out of 4 | Reverse Order
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by GreyWiz
we simply must have the right to self defense.
Exactly, don't the animals do what they can to defend themselves? Of course they do. We have to ask ourselves, "are we less than animals?"

I mean.... you know... The right to self-defense should be a no-brainer. And if one is having to defend against a superior power it's because
that superior power had already "pre-empted" the inferiorly armed opposition. A perfect example of this condition, is the war in Iraq.
The US went in there with overwhelmingly superior firepower, Saddam was powerless to oppose. It was the modern monster v. sticks and stones that tickle.
Thousands of lives were needlessly slaughtered. An act that basically made groups like ISIS, what it is.
That's hard power v. the people.
IF the people do NOT have control of it's leaders, then who does? And how far will they go?

Soft power is more along the lines of "handing the country over" to it's enemies.
IF the enemy says - disarm the people, one way or another, disarm them, first.

From the intel that I've gathered over the past 25 years, the only logical conclusion that keeps recurring is
that the US is systematically committing national suicide. (it's a slow process - subtle, undetectable because people forget)



Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Vixen2
*checks safe*

I went to target practice yesterday🙂
I am a responsible gun owner with a concealed weapons permit...keep my gear in working order (9mm rohrbaugh & .45 sig) and out of reach of small hands and prying eyes.

I live in Florida where home invasion percentages are low because thieves know, everyone is packing heat.
You know, ask your Scorp to consider ALL forms of tactical training, as well as Survival Skills training. While it may seem silly at the present to some,
it would also be a good idea to come to understand the "Art of War" - not that you would go out and instigate war, but rather, that you
can better know your enemy, his weaknesses as well as your own, future survivability it's about, not just the now.
Also, be informed. - History, government, military, political science, psychological warfare through school education, news media, entertainment.
Learn to be self-sufficient - know how to work on cars and trucks, improvising in all matters transportation. Consider strategic relocation, yes
it's a BIG learning curve. Learn all that you can to survive in the wild. First aid, weather, disease and drought.
Keep in mind, long term availability and sustainability of munitions. Consider alternative means of defense and protection - Knives, swords, spears, bow and arrow
crossbows and how to keep them maintained and edges razor sharp, all of which I think.



Also, consider organization - I cannot stress the need for organizing a community/nationwide organization that might include the NRA but also
one that holds veterans of the armed forces in high regard emphasizing discipline, courage and principles conducive to a tight ship and well oiled machine.
One that not only considers what has been discussed topics already in this thread but how to coordinate and effectively engage positively, sensibly, LEGALLY,
without being "exclusive" but judicious in determining whom is acceptable or not.
Under NO circumstances advocate the overthrow of the government. BUT rather the corruption and the obscene, unethical and senseless through the electoral
process - understanding that it IS the elected officials who make the laws and decide what is enforced and what is not in both domestic and in foreign policy.
They are the ones to blow the whistle when corruption is found. What the people are TRUSTWORTHY officials willing to be carefully monitored. Thus, it requires
a nationwide movement the likes the world has never known. IMHO, because so much has been lost, already, an extreme shot of wake-up coffee is quite needed.
The intoxication needs to wear off.
But MOST IMPORTANT: People need to learn to use their heads and use good sense. IF they don't know either, they need to be taught.

Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by SensitiveBlues
Americans just want everyone to die by the Gun.

I'm retiring to Africa at 55.
Can't see myself retiring here either. Shorty's got dual English citizenship and I have Irish. Once she goes off to uni there, there's nothing keeping me here.
Ahhhh, what have we here— Dual citizenship—?
PLUS the "Take up space, then leave when things get inconvenient" motto.

You don't care about anyone but yourself, cheeky.



Now it's my fault my grandmother was Irish? You really are a troll.
click to expand

My grandmother was Arsh, too. You know, the warm and fuzzy feeling (HEY GRANDMA!)

There's a certain gratification I get knowing just how American and European I TRULY am.







This land belongs to my people. You're welcomed to leave, any time.





Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by frostey91
Gun control doesn't work this. The elite do want to take our guns away I am sad to say.
Its the old way of fighting dirty.

Criminals will get their guns one way or another.
So, when the day comes, and all the guns are banned.
In that day, today's law abiding citizen will be made outlaws.

It's an old tactic. Already, they demonize LEGAL gun owners.
That is, they demonize law abiding citizens, who actually obey the law.
IF the law abiding citizens are under threat, then there's nothing beneath what those elite might do.

The "white man" is the government. Not a person of white skin.
They always broke their promises and treatise.


Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
That's more numbers on the television rating polls. Real people die. Real people kill, but they switch the story around blocking out the facts so you just see death. Condition the mind to be okay with it and any explanation that was given for it as well.

Oh and these television shows and movies are ridiculous with screwing with your mental. I was just watching that show Childhood's End on SYFY and the alien said the humans couldn't see his face until the time was right because he knew they wouldn't like what they saw when he first arrived to planet earth. He was like the typical Wizard of Oz character except it was one of those police interrogating mirrors. He gave them prosperity to the point where working was considered useless at the time, they just couldn't see his true-self. After I think 4 years passed where the world declared that time in history as the Golden Age, he finally showed his true-self and motherfucker walked out the alien pod a horn winged, all red, snake eyed, demon! 😆 They were at some sort of football stadium so everyone stood up, clapped, and snapped photos of the devil as their new creator. I saw an advertising poster at a school saying lets all live in this world together arm over shoulder's with this so called alien. Then, 27 years later, the devil revealed his plans for change where you couldn't have children, men were basically destroyed and his son shall be born.

The Anti-Christ. The same people who were all for this prosperity and peace started realizing they fucked up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn

That's not TV, that's history.

Real people lied, real people fought, real people died.

It is unwise to discount wisdom, simply because it was presented in film or media.

I remember seeing a man with his face shot clean off. as if it were a lid removed from a pot.
He was still alive. I've seen a man cut in half, and was quite conscious laying there in the street.
I've seen mangled children's bodies.
Quite uncomfortable for many Americans who have been shielded from such horrors as if they don't
exist.
As far as Anti-Christ goes, the definition is simple, anyone who does not believe in Christ is Anti-Christ
Obviously anyone who vehemently opposes Christ would, correctly, be "Anti-Christ".
"Anti" is against. and there are many antichrists the world over. There is only one TRUE Christ and few
there be that find Him.



Profile picture of Montgomery
Montgomery
@Montgomery
12 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 552 · Posts: 18848 · Topics: 149
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
That's more numbers on the television rating polls. Real people die. Real people kill, but they switch the story around blocking out the facts so you just see death. Condition the mind to be okay with it and any explanation that was given for it as well.

Oh and these television shows and movies are ridiculous with screwing with your mental. I was just watching that show Childhood's End on SYFY and the alien said the humans couldn't see his face until the time was right because he knew they wouldn't like what they saw when he first arrived to planet earth. He was like the typical Wizard of Oz character except it was one of those police interrogating mirrors. He gave them prosperity to the point where working was considered useless at the time, they just couldn't see his true-self. After I think 4 years passed where the world declared that time in history as the Golden Age, he finally showed his true-self and motherfucker walked out the alien pod a horn winged, all red, snake eyed, demon! 😆 They were at some sort of football stadium so everyone stood up, clapped, and snapped photos of the devil as their new creator. I saw an advertising poster at a school saying lets all live in this world together arm over shoulder's with this so called alien. Then, 27 years later, the devil revealed his plans for change where you couldn't have children, men were basically destroyed and his son shall be born.

The Anti-Christ. The same people who were all for this prosperity and peace started realizing they fucked up.
Ikr?

Can you believe that was written in 1953?
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
That's more numbers on the television rating polls. Real people die. Real people kill, but they switch the story around blocking out the facts so you just see death. Condition the mind to be okay with it and any explanation that was given for it as well.

Oh and these television shows and movies are ridiculous with screwing with your mental. I was just watching that show Childhood's End on SYFY and the alien said the humans couldn't see his face until the time was right because he knew they wouldn't like what they saw when he first arrived to planet earth. He was like the typical Wizard of Oz character except it was one of those police interrogating mirrors. He gave them prosperity to the point where working was considered useless at the time, they just couldn't see his true-self. After I think 4 years passed where the world declared that time in history as the Golden Age, he finally showed his true-self and motherfucker walked out the alien pod a horn winged, all red, snake eyed, demon! 😆 They were at some sort of football stadium so everyone stood up, clapped, and snapped photos of the devil as their new creator. I saw an advertising poster at a school saying lets all live in this world together arm over shoulder's with this so called alien. Then, 27 years later, the devil revealed his plans for change where you couldn't have children, men were basically destroyed and his son shall be born.

The Anti-Christ. The same people who were all for this prosperity and peace started realizing they fucked up.
Ikr?

Can you believe that was written in 1953?
click to expand

You two might believe in space aliens. I sure don't 😆

Profile picture of Montgomery
Montgomery
@Montgomery
12 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 552 · Posts: 18848 · Topics: 149
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
That's more numbers on the television rating polls. Real people die. Real people kill, but they switch the story around blocking out the facts so you just see death. Condition the mind to be okay with it and any explanation that was given for it as well.

Oh and these television shows and movies are ridiculous with screwing with your mental. I was just watching that show Childhood's End on SYFY and the alien said the humans couldn't see his face until the time was right because he knew they wouldn't like what they saw when he first arrived to planet earth. He was like the typical Wizard of Oz character except it was one of those police interrogating mirrors. He gave them prosperity to the point where working was considered useless at the time, they just couldn't see his true-self. After I think 4 years passed where the world declared that time in history as the Golden Age, he finally showed his true-self and motherfucker walked out the alien pod a horn winged, all red, snake eyed, demon! 😆 They were at some sort of football stadium so everyone stood up, clapped, and snapped photos of the devil as their new creator. I saw an advertising poster at a school saying lets all live in this world together arm over shoulder's with this so called alien. Then, 27 years later, the devil revealed his plans for change where you couldn't have children, men were basically destroyed and his son shall be born.

The Anti-Christ. The same people who were all for this prosperity and peace started realizing they fucked up.
Ikr?

Can you believe that was written in 1953?
You two might believe in space aliens. I sure don't 😆

click to expand

Now I believe in space aliens?

Not for a minute, Mr Matrix.


It's a ruse, you know ... but a very good one.



Profile picture of beautifulsoul74
beautifulsoul74
@beautifulsoul74
13 Years5,000+ Posts

Comments: 122 · Posts: 5590 · Topics: 41
Interesting(and hot) topic. Ultimately, the OP's original statement of changing behavior is what it boils down to.

Buuuuut...for conversation sake I'll add this:

While I'm not referring to specific posters on here, often times when the second amendment is cited, the person quoting it is unaware of or dishonest about it's history. Truth is, the original version of the second amendment was much longer and very specific. Basically, the original version and intent, as described by James Madison in the Federalist Papers(which no one reads); have the right to keep and bear arms only to persons in the militia...and even then it was to be "well regulated." Strangely enough, people skip those two words. 🙂

Like every law that goes through Congress, it was debated and had to be compromised(shortened) so that it could PASS and the Constitution could then be passed and ratified by the States. Another example of this was the fact that blacks were deemed 3/5 human. This was done so that slave holding states would ratify the Constitution. But that's another topic lol.

The second amendment has been litigated several times throughout our history. Most recently in 2008 and 2010. Two rulings were issued by the U.S. Supreme Court during those years. While the upheld the right of individuals to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment, they also stated that the Federal Government has a right under the Constitution to regulate the possession of firearms due to the 14th Amendment...the Equal Protection clause. Therefore, individuals have a right to legally bear firearms, but the government has a right to set the parameters of owning one.

So one can walk around with a gun on their hip all day but reality is there ate plenty of people who don't feel safe with some stranger packing in their local Chipotle and since they have rights as well, don't be upset if the local authorites are called 🙂


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Profile picture of rockyroadicecream
rockyroadicecream
@rockyroadicecream
13 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 1243 · Posts: 16617 · Topics: 170
Posted by beautifulsoul74
Interesting(and hot) topic. Ultimately, the OP's original statement of changing behavior is what it boils down to.

Buuuuut...for conversation sake I'll add this:

While I'm not referring to specific posters on here, often times when the second amendment is cited, the person quoting it is unaware of or dishonest about it's history. Truth is, the original version of the second amendment was much longer and very specific. Basically, the original version and intent, as described by James Madison in the Federalist Papers(which no one reads); have the right to keep and bear arms only to persons in the militia...and even then it was to be "well regulated." Strangely enough, people skip those two words. 🙂

Like every law that goes through Congress, it was debated and had to be compromised(shortened) so that it could PASS and the Constitution could then be passed and ratified by the States. Another example of this was the fact that blacks were deemed 3/5 human. This was done so that slave holding states would ratify the Constitution. But that's another topic lol.
..........
(cut for length)

Like I said, rednecks all up in arms. Grunt grunt, omg fire stick rights!

Gotta love the piss poor logic of these fools too. "Oh they're coming at you with a broken glass bottle. What if you had a GUUUN—"

Bitch, I could have a golf club, screw driver, since she was in a bar- corkscrew, car keys, martial arts training, etc. It's fucking hilarious that people use that as a stupid fuck defense. "IF THEY HAD A GUN THEY COULD PROTECT THEMSELVES." Sure, maybe if the other person had one too, but otherwise, it is not the BE all in self defense you redneck fucks.

My dad raised my brother and I to understand guns and when they were/weren't necessary. He was an expert marksman in the military and we just grew up knowing better. It's also why we aren't gun happy idiots who can barely understand anything going on in the world. Everyone all up in arms over their right to bear arms are usually the dipshit conservatives.

I DO agree we need to pay attention to what regulations are passing because it is a very real situation that the government has been moving to take more away from the people for the last few decades. Maybe if people educated themselves better, INCLUDING dipshits with the mentality of the OP, you'd also have another way to defend yourself aside from bullets. Maybe you wouldn't be so fearful of your guns "being taken away" if you weren't so fucking ignorant about things. You'd have other ways to defend yourselves aside from pew pew pew.
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
If these weapons are.so easy to get for these nut jobs, you better believe I'm gonna have one too. I'm not gonna be a sitting duck.

I own a couple guns, one ready and loaded next to my bed. I'm a woman that lives alone. Hell yeah I'm gonna protect myself.

If a person wamts a gun to commit a crime, nothing is going to stop them, only thing that will stop them from committing a crime towards me is my own piece.


Profile picture of Montgomery
Montgomery
@Montgomery
12 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 552 · Posts: 18848 · Topics: 149
Posted by BlackNova
Posted by cheekyfaerie
......
but I also know guns do have their place. In rural Oklahoma, I knew families that would have gone hungry without their ability to kill game.
Jesus, this type of argument to support gun ownership is such bullshit.
What?....A family can't afford to buy or grow some basic food items but can afford to own a gun (cost money) and buy the ammunition (cost money), get in their truck which they need to mechanically maintain (costs money), and fill it with gas (costs money)?

All this bullshit floating around to justify americas obsession with firearms and not just basic firearms either, but military grade assault weapons....L-O-fuckin-L

Thankfully I had the opportunity to travel and live outside America and get a new perspective for myself and through the eyes of other people.....America won't need to be invaded by a foreign power, it will fucking implode from within, by it's own hand (citizens and politicians)
click to expand

You think one elk = 1 dinner, don't you... ?


Profile picture of beautifulsoul74
beautifulsoul74
@beautifulsoul74
13 Years5,000+ Posts

Comments: 122 · Posts: 5590 · Topics: 41
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by beautifulsoul74
Interesting(and hot) topic. Ultimately, the OP's original statement of changing behavior is what it boils down to.

Buuuuut...for conversation sake I'll add this:

While I'm not referring to specific posters on here, often times when the second amendment is cited, the person quoting it is unaware of or dishonest about it's history. Truth is, the original version of the second amendment was much longer and very specific. Basically, the original version and intent, as described by James Madison in the Federalist Papers(which no one reads); have the right to keep and bear arms only to persons in the militia...and even then it was to be "well regulated." Strangely enough, people skip those two words. 🙂

Like every law that goes through Congress, it was debated and had to be compromised(shortened) so that it could PASS and the Constitution could then be passed and ratified by the States. Another example of this was the fact that blacks were deemed 3/5 human. This was done so that slave holding states would ratify the Constitution. But that's another topic lol.
..........
(cut for length)

Like I said, rednecks all up in arms. Grunt grunt, omg fire stick rights!

Gotta love the piss poor logic of these fools too. "Oh they're coming at you with a broken glass bottle. What if you had a GUUUN—"

Bitch, I could have a golf club, screw driver, since she was in a bar- corkscrew, car keys, martial arts training, etc. It's fucking hilarious that people use that as a stupid fuck defense. "IF THEY HAD A GUN THEY COULD PROTECT THEMSELVES." Sure, maybe if the other person had one too, but otherwise, it is not the BE all in self defense you redneck fucks.

My dad raised my brother and I to understand guns and when they were/weren't necessary. He was an expert marksman in the military and we just grew up knowing better. It's also why we aren't gun happy idiots who can barely understand anything going on in the world. Everyone all up in arms over their right to bear arms are usually the dipshit conservatives.

I DO agree we need to pay attention to what regulations are passing because it is a very real situation that the government has been moving to take more away from the people for the last few decades. Maybe if people educated themselves better, INCLUDING dipshits with the mentality of the OP, you'd also have another way to defend yourself aside from bullets. Maybe you wouldn't be so fearful of your guns "being taken away" if you weren't so fucking ignorant about things. You'd have other ways to defend yourselves aside from pew pew pew.
click to expand

Pretty much agree and my grandfather, a WW2 vet, taught me about guns as well.
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
That's more numbers on the television rating polls. Real people die. Real people kill, but they switch the story around blocking out the facts so you just see death. Condition the mind to be okay with it and any explanation that was given for it as well.

Oh and these television shows and movies are ridiculous with screwing with your mental. I was just watching that show Childhood's End on SYFY and the alien said the humans couldn't see his face until the time was right because he knew they wouldn't like what they saw when he first arrived to planet earth. He was like the typical Wizard of Oz character except it was one of those police interrogating mirrors. He gave them prosperity to the point where working was considered useless at the time, they just couldn't see his true-self. After I think 4 years passed where the world declared that time in history as the Golden Age, he finally showed his true-self and motherfucker walked out the alien pod a horn winged, all red, snake eyed, demon! 😆 They were at some sort of football stadium so everyone stood up, clapped, and snapped photos of the devil as their new creator. I saw an advertising poster at a school saying lets all live in this world together arm over shoulder's with this so called alien. Then, 27 years later, the devil revealed his plans for change where you couldn't have children, men were basically destroyed and his son shall be born.

The Anti-Christ. The same people who were all for this prosperity and peace started realizing they fucked up.
Ikr?

Can you believe that was written in 1953?
You two might believe in space aliens. I sure don't 😆
Now I believe in space aliens?

Not for a minute, Mr Matrix.


It's a ruse, you know ... but a very good one.



click to expand

Indeed, it IS. and while a ruse to some, it didn't cut the mustard with me.
😉
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Arielle83
I don't get how you can call someone naive when they don't even live in your gun loving country. Not everyone is walking around my world with a gun.

I get your struggle, but I don't want to be a part iof it or even venture into your world.

Ummmm..... looks left.... looks right... why did you venture in here, then—

No matter, your world is NOT the US but I'm pretty sure Australia and Canada, NZ and England are a bit reliant upon the US to exist. When it falls, it'll be a house of cards around the world because that's how the modern "free-world" is structured.



Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
I don't get how you can call someone naive when they don't even live in your gun loving country. Not everyone is walking around my world with a gun.

I get your struggle, but I don't want to be a part iof it or even venture into your world.

Ummmm..... looks left.... looks right... why did you venture in here, then—

No matter, your world is NOT the US but I'm pretty sure Australia and Canada, NZ and England are a bit reliant upon the US to exist. When it falls, it'll be a house of cards around the world because that's how the modern "free-world" is structured.


I came in to see how scared you all actually are.

Ya the world gets it.

We all get it. I just want to hear it from the horses mouth. The American gun wielding logic is interesting to read.

Calling others naive, who don't carry guns or believe in carrying guns, just aren't in agreement with you. You can't claim then naive just because you're scared.

Like I said, different world.
click to expand

I'm not scared at all.
My body is my greatest enemy.
How's that grab ya, sweetheart?
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
I don't get how you can call someone naive when they don't even live in your gun loving country. Not everyone is walking around my world with a gun.

I get your struggle, but I don't want to be a part iof it or even venture into your world.

Ummmm..... looks left.... looks right... why did you venture in here, then—

No matter, your world is NOT the US but I'm pretty sure Australia and Canada, NZ and England are a bit reliant upon the US to exist. When it falls, it'll be a house of cards around the world because that's how the modern "free-world" is structured.


I came in to see how scared you all actually are.

Ya the world gets it.

We all get it. I just want to hear it from the horses mouth. The American gun wielding logic is interesting to read.

Calling others naive, who don't carry guns or believe in carrying guns, just aren't in agreement with you. You can't claim then naive just because you're scared.

Like I said, different world.
I'm not scared at all.
My body is my greatest enemy.
How's that grab ya, sweetheart?
You're not van damme.
click to expand

No, I'm not. BUT, I AM MrFirebird.
When was the last time van damme acknowledged your existence?
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by Arielle83
I don't get how you can call someone naive when they don't even live in your gun loving country. Not everyone is walking around my world with a gun.

I get your struggle, but I don't want to be a part iof it or even venture into your world.

Ummmm..... looks left.... looks right... why did you venture in here, then—

No matter, your world is NOT the US but I'm pretty sure Australia and Canada, NZ and England are a bit reliant upon the US to exist. When it falls, it'll be a house of cards around the world because that's how the modern "free-world" is structured.


I came in to see how scared you all actually are.

Ya the world gets it.

We all get it. I just want to hear it from the horses mouth. The American gun wielding logic is interesting to read.

Calling others naive, who don't carry guns or believe in carrying guns, just aren't in agreement with you. You can't claim then naive just because you're scared.

Like I said, different world.
I'm not scared at all.
My body is my greatest enemy.
How's that grab ya, sweetheart?
You're not van damme.
No, I'm not. BUT, I AM MrFirebird.
When was the last time van damme acknowledged your existence?
I don't need to be acknowledge to know I exist.

The bushfires are crazy down here. Are you bushfire ready? Cuz that's what were dealing with.
click to expand

Hey, Did you know that the earth tilts twice a year while it does the twist?
Marshmallows are great this time of year



~Waves at Wynter~
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Someone get that psychotic bitch RockyRoadIceCream a rag so she can wipe the froth off of that mouth of hers.

After reading that screed, one can only imagine what kind of beta-male closet queer wimps she dates.
She's salty 24/7 I tell ya.
You just called Rocky salty AGAIN, and probably to the SALTIEST man on this site.

click to expand

So what? That's my opinion of her. I don't need you to tell me if I called her salty, I know, I'm the one who said it.
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by HellDorado
Posted by cheekyfaerie
@HellDorado

The general public does not an organized militia make and the founding fathers couldn't begin to believe the arsenal available at our fingertips now. As far as I'm concerned, your argument is invalid.
do you know what a strawman argument is, @cheekyfaerie?

i said nothing about the second amendment or the founding fathers. so as far as anyone who understands debate and logic is concerned your argument is invalid.

Image Not Found
Apparently not. Your argument was based on a freedom that wouldn't exist without the founding fathers and the second amendment. There *is* no argument without them.
click to expand

Your argument wouldn't last without the Founding Fathers and the First Amendment.
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Someone get that psychotic bitch RockyRoadIceCream a rag so she can wipe the froth off of that mouth of hers.

After reading that screed, one can only imagine what kind of beta-male closet queer wimps she dates.
She's salty 24/7 I tell ya.
You just called Rocky salty AGAIN, and probably to the SALTIEST man on this site.
So what? That's my opinion of her. I don't need you to tell me if I called her salty, I know, I'm the one who said it.
I just found it ironic, you're trying to make buddy with a salty assed man, but you throw down the chicks who don't agree with you.

Maybe you're not salty, but you might be thirsty.
click to expand

Is that what you observed... Rockyroadicecream ice cream ass kisser! 😛
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Someone get that psychotic bitch RockyRoadIceCream a rag so she can wipe the froth off of that mouth of hers.

After reading that screed, one can only imagine what kind of beta-male closet queer wimps she dates.
She's salty 24/7 I tell ya.
You just called Rocky salty AGAIN, and probably to the SALTIEST man on this site.
So what? That's my opinion of her. I don't need you to tell me if I called her salty, I know, I'm the one who said it.
I just found it ironic, you're trying to make buddy with a salty assed man, but you throw down the chicks who don't agree with you.

Maybe you're not salty, but you might be thirsty.
Is that what you observed... Rockyroadicecream ice cream ass kisser! 😛
I prefer ice cream to bitter greentea.

Soz

click to expand

Aww good one... (rolls eyes)
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by Arielle83
Posted by Greentea
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Someone get that psychotic bitch RockyRoadIceCream a rag so she can wipe the froth off of that mouth of hers.

After reading that screed, one can only imagine what kind of beta-male closet queer wimps she dates.
She's salty 24/7 I tell ya.
You just called Rocky salty AGAIN, and probably to the SALTIEST man on this site.
So what? That's my opinion of her. I don't need you to tell me if I called her salty, I know, I'm the one who said it.
I just found it ironic, you're trying to make buddy with a salty assed man, but you throw down the chicks who don't agree with you.

Maybe you're not salty, but you might be thirsty.
Is that what you observed... Rockyroadicecream ice cream ass kisser! 😛
I prefer ice cream to bitter greentea.

Soz
Aww good one... (rolls eyes)
I'm not trying to be good.
click to expand

Fine, next time confront someone who cares, because this Cap certainly doesn't.
Profile picture of Greentea
Greentea
@Greentea
10 Years1,000+ Posts

Comments: 1 · Posts: 3848 · Topics: 46
Posted by BlackNova
Posted by Greentea
If these weapons are.so easy to get for these nut jobs, you better believe I'm gonna have one too. I'm not gonna be a sitting duck.

I own a couple guns, one ready and loaded next to my bed. I'm a woman that lives alone. Hell yeah I'm gonna protect myself.

If a person wamts a gun to commit a crime, nothing is going to stop them, only thing that will stop them from committing a crime towards me is my own piece.

Just take a look at the nut jobs in the whithouse FFS

Keep telling yourself that and perpetuate the stupidity. L-O-fuckin-L
America, the land of the free and home of the brave....yeah, man, society is so fucked up, the citizens gotta keep a loaded weapon by their fuckin bed and the government keeps the country in a perpetual state of war somewhere on the planet......jesus...just stop and listen to yourselves.

Ain't no one gonna come at me, coz I'm packin heat....jesus fucking christ, this is the mentality that is holding back humanity
click to expand

What shit are you talking about?

Facts are homes get broken into, women get raped and murdered, those ARE facts, and yiur telling me that I can't protect myself against a man twice, three times my size who most likely can overpower me, choke me, stab me, or shoot me to death!! No one is supposed to be in my house in the first goddamn place.

Ya I'll tell you how not having a gun to protect myself works out...that's if im lucky enough to live through it.

And by the way, I didn't ask anyone nor imply that "ain't no one gonna come at me cuz I'm packing heat" ...I have it incase someone DOES come at me dork.
Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by cheekyfaerie
Posted by MrFirebird
That's what I call a Scarecrow Argument.
Ah. I forgot. Logic doesn't work on your lot. All you understand is someone that talks louder and carries a bigger stick. There is no debate here. I'll leave you to it.
click to expand

You know, they say that the pen is mightier than the sword. That's until the hand is chopped off mid sentence.

"Where were you on New Year's Eve?" one protester yelled at police "Why didn't you protect those women?"

"We ran to the police. But we saw the police were so understaffed," the victim said. "They couldn't take care of us and we as women suffered the price."

"The events of New Year's Eve like a spotlight once more highlighted the challenge we face in a new aspect that we had not really looked at before," Merkel said Saturday in Mainz, at a meeting of her conservative CDU Party.

Merkel garnered international acclaim for her decision to welcome many of the hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners who have made the journey to Europe this year in search of safety, food, work and a better life.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/09/europe/germany-new-year-violence/index.html
and
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/europe/germany-cologne-new-year-assaults/index.html

Understaffed? What? Cops can't be everywhere at the same time? Too busy elsewhere? Take a number?
People can't govern themselves? Need to consult liberal advice prior to venturing out into the unknown big bad world?
Liberal advice tells you that you will be safe? Will get those bad people and point fingers at them and say naughty,
naughty, no no no! You get attacked anyway because the law won't let you defend yourself because you're too stoopit?
Gosh darn it, isn't that just an English Shorty pity?


Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by PotHeadVirgo25
Ahhhhh a machete. A good choice of weapon. Snakes are fast but that kind of blade gives us the ability to be fast and do a one shot kill mostly due to it being made for chopping.

I'd say that'd be a better choice of weapon during a home invasion in a big house. No loud bang, just poetry in motion.
Pothead, When I 12 I cut the head off of a Western Diamondback rattlesnake.

Also, beside machetes, it so happens I own one these.
Modeled from an M1917 US Naval boarding cutlass, which itself, was an adaptation of the Dutch Klewang and the last model issued to the Navy, 100 years ago.
In my case, this model chosen primarily for it's short length due to the tight confines of the home, as a tertiary defense engagement weapon.
Obviously, primary and secondary choices are going to be a firearm.



Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
I should make a point to one and all:
Firearms are far more practical than the weapons (swords, daggers, crossbows, longbows and recurves) they superseded, some 600 years ago.
Such weapons had reached their mature age only 100 years ago, with few major advancements in the last 75+ years, since.
Today, the traditional firearm, in all it's types is probably just about peaked, technology-wise. Next step in firearms are in the realms of
advanced guided munitions, otherwise, the traditional gun, rifle, machine gun and shotgun, themselves, have pretty much come of age.
The next technological breakthrough in evolution in martial weapons are going to be in the realm of lasers, EMP, HEAT, micro rockets,
smart guidance systems. Technology which remains, at best, still in the R&D and fieldtesting phase.
For every weapon, there's a counter weapon and the best weapon is the one that nothing nor anyone can defend against. And I am not talking
NBC weapons.

Edged weapons are very brutal and ugly in action, yet quite obsolete in a stand-off with a firearm, drawn and ready.



Profile picture of MrFirebird
MrFirebird
@MrFirebird
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Comments: 13 · Posts: 10188 · Topics: 699
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
The trash around here insist that people are ignorant rednecks if they advocate the 2nd Amendment freedom to purchase of firearms for personal defense.

The fact that you idiots consistently apply this misnomer indicates that YOU are the mindless TRASH around here.

Like I said, in a real life or death situation, you idiots would last about 10 seconds.
That's because they, quite possibly their parents, have been conditioned and primed from the time they were born.
In the US, the citizenry has been quite effectively shielded from the horrors of war. Public education had done well to shield fragile young minds
omitting discipline and avoiding teaching the difference between right and wrong and executing sound judgement and discretion.
Instead it's all about "how wicked can we be and not be held accountable" - that, right there is a major reason why society, is in such a state of
puke sensibilities. When they vote, their votes are largely based on how popular a candidate may be and not whether the candidate possess
morals and ethics and scruples. To change the future, the people have to change. They won't do it and because of this, their fates and that of their nation,
are sealed.