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Posted by bmoon8Here's what it actually means...synopsis submitted by a law school: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/08-1521Posted by beautifulsoul74Ruling on the 2nd amendment and what it means:
Interesting(and hot) topic. Ultimately, the OP's original statement of changing behavior is what it boils down to.
Buuuuut...for conversation sake I'll add this:
While I'm not referring to specific posters on here, often times when the second amendment is cited, the person quoting it is unaware of or dishonest about it's history. Truth is, the original version of the second amendment was much longer and very specific. Basically, the original version and intent, as described by James Madison in the Federalist Papers(which no one reads); have the right to keep and bear arms only to persons in the militia...and even then it was to be "well regulated." Strangely enough, people skip those two words. 🙂
Like every law that goes through Congress, it was debated and had to be compromised(shortened) so that it could PASS and the Constitution could then be passed and ratified by the States. Another example of this was the fact that blacks were deemed 3/5 human. This was done so that slave holding states would ratify the Constitution. But that's another topic lol.
The second amendment has been litigated several times throughout our history. Most recently in 2008 and 2010. Two rulings were issued by the U.S. Supreme Court during those years. While the upheld the right of individuals to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment, they also stated that the Federal Government has a right under the Constitution to regulate the possession of firearms due to the 14th Amendment...the Equal Protection clause. Therefore, individuals have a right to legally bear firearms, but the government has a right to set the parameters of owning one.
So one can walk around with a gun on their hip all day but reality is there ate plenty of people who don't feel safe with some stranger packing in their local Chipotle and since they have rights as well, don't be upset if the local authorites are called 🙂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
As I stated before, we have the right to bear arms, but that right is not unlimited.
What part of McDonald are you referring to, exactly?
Posted by MontgomeryIf you read the wikipedia link, the passage right above the "text" section explains how the McDonald decision impacts Heller. It essentially clarifies the former because there was some confusion as to whether the decision(in Heller)applied to State and local governments.
What part of McDonald are you referring to, exactly?
In both links, it is implied as well as expressed that the government(Federal, State, and local) has a right to regulate the possession of firearms, but that right is restricted. Just as is the right of individuals to own and carry firearms. Justice Alito expressed this in the majority opinion he wrote in Heller.
Posted by beautifulsoul74I'm familiar... I did a presentation on itPosted by MontgomeryIf you read the wikipedia link, the passage right above the "text" section explains how the McDonald decision impacts Heller. It essentially clarifies the former because there was some confusion as to whether the decision(in Heller)applied to State and local governments.
What part of McDonald are you referring to, exactly?
In both links, it is implied as well as expressed that the government(Federal, State, and local) has a right to regulate the possession of firearms, but that right is restricted. Just as is the right of individuals to own and carry firearms. Justice Alito expressed this in the majority opinion he wrote in Heller.
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(and Charlton Heston... marginally lol)
in torts class.
It seems you were referencing McDonald with your comment
about some people's discomfort with open carry-- and how
they shouldn't be surprised when the police were summoned,
if they elected to do so.
To the best of my knowledge, the only thing that overrides that
right is private property (as it should) ... certain businesses won't allow it.
I may be wrong... it's been a few years, but that's what I was looking for.
Posted by MontgomeryAh, gotcha...and wasn't torts fun? Lol.Posted by beautifulsoul74I'm familiar... I did a presentation on itPosted by MontgomeryIf you read the wikipedia link, the passage right above the "text" section explains how the McDonald decision impacts Heller. It essentially clarifies the former because there was some confusion as to whether the decision(in Heller)applied to State and local governments.
What part of McDonald are you referring to, exactly?
In both links, it is implied as well as expressed that the government(Federal, State, and local) has a right to regulate the possession of firearms, but that right is restricted. Just as is the right of individuals to own and carry firearms. Justice Alito expressed this in the majority opinion he wrote in Heller.
(and Charlton Heston... marginally lol)
in torts class.
It seems you were referencing McDonald with your comment
about some people's discomfort with open carry-- and how
they shouldn't be surprised when the police were summoned,
if they elected to do so.
To the best of my knowledge, the only thing that overrides that
right is private property (as it should) ... certain businesses won't allow it.
I may be wrong... it's been a few years, but that's what I was looking for.
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Those two cases probably weren't the best examples but I mainly used them to illustrate that both sides are somewhat restricted in their rights...well it's arguably more of a duty in regards to the government.
I agree with you on property rights and you're correct. That's an even bigger issue imo.
Posted by Vixen2
oh, and the gun training practice, guns, hollow points, permit, safe, bra holster was all initiated and gifted by the Scorp when I moved down to Florida. He wanted me to be able to protect myself because it's way different from where I'm from up north. He said there is way more to Florida then the elderly men in banana hammocks ...and unfortunately he was right...as usual.
I would also suggest trying an HK45, Had the opportunity to use one and wow! This gun is competing with my Sig P220 here for a .45 caliber pistol. Even if it's polymer frame it's fires and functions just as well as a steel frame.
Posted by MrFirebird
I should make a point to one and all:
Firearms are far more practical than the weapons (swords, daggers, crossbows, longbows and recurves) they superseded, some 600 years ago.
Such weapons had reached their mature age only 100 years ago, with few major advancements in the last 75+ years, since.
Today, the traditional firearm, in all it's types is probably just about peaked, technology-wise. Next step in firearms are in the realms of
advanced guided munitions, otherwise, the traditional gun, rifle, machine gun and shotgun, themselves, have pretty much come of age.
The next technological breakthrough in evolution in martial weapons are going to be in the realm of lasers, EMP, HEAT, micro rockets,
smart guidance systems. Technology which remains, at best, still in the R&D and fieldtesting phase.
For every weapon, there's a counter weapon and the best weapon is the one that nothing nor anyone can defend against. And I am not talking
NBC weapons.
Edged weapons are very brutal and ugly in action, yet quite obsolete in a stand-off with a firearm, drawn and ready.
Try Laser and Plasma weaponry man. 100 years down the road. That my friends, is the next step. Every body in 2180 is gonna be complaining about people toting around plasma pistols and gun crimes with energy weapons at that time. And it'll mirror the issues today. But fucking lasers man, just wow.
Posted by MrFirebird
.45 Colt M1911,
Ahh 1911's. I have two of those in my safe. I generally love them as they were the first firearm I was exposed to, but these days I usually take better alternatives. Likely FN, Sig, H&K, and in America's case- Detonics STX considering they've made their own version of a 1911 for the U.S Army's modular handgun system. Here it is-
2C424
I wish Texas were it's own country. This discussion wouldn't even be necessary here.
Posted by cheekyfaerieYou truly are ignorant of the facts, cheeks.Posted by CapTennUnless you're one of those whackadoos that wants to own assault rifles and take over a bird sanctuary, I don't see the problem here.
Criminals don't give a fuck about his background checks. (Funny enough coming from a POS that has his own records sealed).
Or any other law for that matter.
Laws are in place to keep honest men honest.
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Posted by truecapYou know, I've thought that, myself.
I wish Texas were it's own country. This discussion wouldn't even be necessary here.
However, it's not the physical borders that define where discussions take place. It's the mind.
Therefore, the warped thinking that instigates these kinds of attacks of propaganda must be
counterattacked. The only way to successfully counter that thinking demands that the nation reverse
it's dumbing down of the citizenry into gladly handing over the keys to the nation to the tyranny of stupidity.
Like minds need to come together get real. - It's not the people, it's the "THINKING" that needs to change.
Liberals are brainwashed minions of foreign philosophies and ethos and who knows how much psychological
bleach would clean them.
Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
HOW DARE THEY!!!!
Posted by truecapLOL,
I don't know if LIB comes in, she'll get a kick out of that truth.
HEY SARAPH! How's it goin' Canuckian neighbor—
Posted by truecapThat's freaking hilarious! By respecting their neighbor's opinions, they in turn violate their privacy rights. Ironically they wouldn't have to worry about that neighbor if something were to happen given the fact that the neighbor can sue their pants off...and take their house! Yeah, bright idea to post a sign like that.
Anyway, I'm done. Can't take this thread seriously anymore lol
Posted by MrFirebirdAgree. I just said that about Texas because guns are just part of our culture. Gun ownership is just part of our mentality.Posted by truecapYou know, I've thought that, myself.
I wish Texas were it's own country. This discussion wouldn't even be necessary here.
However, it's not the physical borders that define where discussions take place. It's the mind.
Therefore, the warped thinking that instigates these kinds of attacks of propaganda must be
counterattacked. The only way to successfully counter that thinking demands that the nation reverse
it's dumbing down of the citizenry into gladly handing over the keys to the nation to the tyranny of stupidity.
Like minds need to come together get real. - It's not the people, it's the "THINKING" that needs to change.
Liberals are brainwashed minions of foreign philosophies and ethos and who knows how much psychological
bleach would clean them.
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Posted by MrFirebird44% of Texans own guns - that's almost the same ratio. 🙂Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
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Posted by beautifulsoul74It's just humor, but the sentiment is spot on.Posted by truecapThat's freaking hilarious! By respecting their neighbor's opinions, they in turn violate their privacy rights. Ironically they wouldn't have to worry about that neighbor if something were to happen given the fact that the neighbor can sue their pants off...and take their house! Yeah, bright idea to post a sign like that.
Anyway, I'm done. Can't take this thread seriously anymore lolclick to expand
Someone breaks into your house....what's your 1st instinct? Draw your own gun or call someone who has a gun (9-1-1).
Posted by truecapIMHO, that 44% (I assume legal gun owners) should be upped to around at least 66% or more. From a political standpoint, strategically, that 44% seems awful low.Posted by MrFirebird44% of Texans own guns - that's almost the same ratio. 🙂Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
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By the way, what's the deal with Texas banning Bowie knifes and limiting knife lengths? That contradicts the concept of self-protection, especially in a state
where guns are quite popular.
Posted by MrFirebirdThey're working on changing the knife law. Switchblades are now legal and we can open carry a pistol (with a liscense), but Bowie knives and double edged knives are still illegal. Guess, the knife thing got pushed aside.Posted by truecapIMHO, that 44% (I assume legal gun owners) should be upped to around at least 66% or more. From a political standpoint, strategically, that 44% seems awful low.Posted by MrFirebird44% of Texans own guns - that's almost the same ratio. 🙂Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
HOW DARE THEY!!!!
By the way, what's the deal with Texas banning Bowie knifes and limiting knife lengths? That contradicts the concept of self-protection, especially in a state
where guns are quite popular.
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Posted by truecapI think all forms and types of self-defense should be legal. Why? Because not everyone can wield a sword or draw a bow or athletically able to engage in hand-to-handPosted by MrFirebirdAgree. I just said that about Texas because guns are just part of our culture. Gun ownership is just part of our mentality.Posted by truecapYou know, I've thought that, myself.
I wish Texas were it's own country. This discussion wouldn't even be necessary here.
However, it's not the physical borders that define where discussions take place. It's the mind.
Therefore, the warped thinking that instigates these kinds of attacks of propaganda must be
counterattacked. The only way to successfully counter that thinking demands that the nation reverse
it's dumbing down of the citizenry into gladly handing over the keys to the nation to the tyranny of stupidity.
Like minds need to come together get real. - It's not the people, it's the "THINKING" that needs to change.
Liberals are brainwashed minions of foreign philosophies and ethos and who knows how much psychological
bleach would clean them.
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using martial arts. - I am looking at the BIG picture.
For instance, for me, firearms (pistol, rifle 22LR through .50 cal, shotgun, machine gun) and a guard dog would suffice.
But I am also open to edged weapons and bow-hunting.
Others may not be interested in those items and just want a simple firearm. (my advice to them would be to have a good well trained and well loved and most importantly
extremely and reliably obedient guard dog).
Furthermore, I shouldn't have to be concerned that my government would put me in jail for defending myself, my family and property, whether I am at home or on the road.
Dumbshit wants to start something, all that happens to dumbshit should be dumbshit's problem, not mine.
Motto: Don't Be Stupid
Posted by cheekyfaerieYou're the one who came in on the offense. Truth is... you've got the hots for the Bird.Posted by MrFirebirdNot sure why you've specifically latched on to me, but as I said before, I'm done conversing with you on the matter. Good day, MrFirebird.Posted by cheekyfaerieYou truly are ignorant of the facts, cheeks.Posted by CapTennUnless you're one of those whackadoos that wants to own assault rifles and take over a bird sanctuary, I don't see the problem here.
Criminals don't give a fuck about his background checks. (Funny enough coming from a POS that has his own records sealed).
Or any other law for that matter.
Laws are in place to keep honest men honest.
Wake up.click to expand
Posted by truecapYou know, that double-standard has GOT to change. IMHO, ALL manner of self-defense should be legalized.Posted by MrFirebirdThey're working on changing the knife law. Switchblades are now legal and we can open carry a pistol (with a liscense), but Bowie knives and double edged knives are still illegal. Guess, the knife thing got pushed aside.Posted by truecapIMHO, that 44% (I assume legal gun owners) should be upped to around at least 66% or more. From a political standpoint, strategically, that 44% seems awful low.Posted by MrFirebird44% of Texans own guns - that's almost the same ratio. 🙂Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
HOW DARE THEY!!!!
By the way, what's the deal with Texas banning Bowie knifes and limiting knife lengths? That contradicts the concept of self-protection, especially in a state
where guns are quite popular.
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IF a woman can argue pro-choice on the subject of abortion, then all should argue pro-choice on the subject of weapon of choice. Obviously, the chips fall where they fall.
PS, Trucap, I own a sword, among other things.
I've seen this in response to the gun neighbor yard sign......both are pretty funny.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpg
Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by truecap
Posted by MoonArtistMoon, the neighbor's sign is ALSO pointing to it's left.
I've seen this in response to the gun neighbor yard sign......both are pretty funny.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpgclick to expand
ooops.
Posted by MoonArtistLol!!,that's funny right there.
I've seen this in response to the gun neighbor yard sign......both are pretty funny.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpg
Posted by MrFirebirdI know. I couldn't find the original that I saw that had the two signs pointing at each other with the lawn, houses, etc. in the pic, so this is what I found, and it will do.Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by truecapPosted by MoonArtistMoon, the neighbor's sign is ALSO pointing to it's left.
I've seen this in response to the gun neighbor yard sign......both are pretty funny.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpg
ooops.
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Posted by truecapThis is truly fucked up. Not even funny.
The person who put up this sign (even if it's a joke or not) pretty much has no issues with their neighbors getting killed by armed intruders, as long as it makes their argument about guns relevant.
What kind of people live amongst us...unreal.
Posted by DamnataI don't know Damsel. What kind of people live in Romania? Have you heard of any murders in your country?Posted by truecapThis is truly fucked up. Not even funny.
The person who put up this sign (even if it's a joke or not) pretty much has no issues with their neighbors getting killed by armed intruders, as long as it makes their argument about guns relevant.
What kind of people live amongst us...unreal.click to expand
Posted by truecaplowest crime rate overall possibly but not in gun related incidents:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/romania#total_number_of_gun_deaths
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/switzerland
Just for a comparison...
But maybe we can compare the US with other countries with strict gun control and see how it looks. The comparison with my country is brutal.
Posted by MrFirebirdSure I have.Posted by DamnataI don't know Damsel. What kind of people live in Romania? Have you heard of any murders in your country?Posted by truecapThis is truly fucked up. Not even funny.
The person who put up this sign (even if it's a joke or not) pretty much has no issues with their neighbors getting killed by armed intruders, as long as it makes their argument about guns relevant.
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Not by guns though.
Since the revolution, the one public incident involving guns happened in a hair saloon in 2012, if we're talking public space.
Dying by guns in Romania happens in hunting accidents. You don't get shot by police. Oh and rival gypsy/mobster clans (sounds more fancy than it is) but most favor swords.
Most deaths happen in villages in bar brawls, involving knives and axes.
A lot to be said about the general crime rate of Romania.
However, my odds of getting killed on the street here or in my home? Abysmal and I love it.
But like I said, different realities. I can't debate the reality of safe life here as far as guns go.
I am aware the reality of life in America is something I don't experience so I'm not here to promote anti gun policies in the US.
But seeing Americans compare themselves to other countries as far as gun control goes? Laughable.
Just for a psychological perspective on why guns do actually kill people more than people kill people (that whole falacy is also amusing)
To kill someone without a gun in a one vs one battle...implies a lot of effort. For that reason the person who has the mindset to kill (the criminal, since it's the basis of the whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people" argument) will have to do some thinking. For one what are his odds at physical strength in overcoming his opponent? But sure, someone will come up and say "But Damnata, we have white weapons too". How many of you have stabbed a pig? Are you aware of the effort involved? Note that the person you're stabbing will also put up a fight. So one on one contact..is tricky. There is also a level of emotional involvement in literally having blood on your hands, whereas there is an emotional dettachment in shooting at someone.
^For that reason, a person will think twice before engaging, which is a crucial point because they won't escalate the conflict as easily, and also that hesitation bids the other person time. Plenty of studies made on guns and how the amp up aggression.
But with a gun? Piss me off, I will try to reach no compromise or calm the conflict because if it comes down to fighting, I'll draw quicker and you'll be dead.Just let me take some steps away from you and shoot you.
But seeing Americans compare themselves to other countries as far as gun control goes? Laughable.
Just for a psychological perspective on why guns do actually kill people more than people kill people (that whole falacy is also amusing)
To kill someone without a gun in a one vs one battle...implies a lot of effort. For that reason the person who has the mindset to kill (the criminal, since it's the basis of the whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people" argument) will have to do some thinking. For one what are his odds at physical strength in overcoming his opponent? But sure, someone will come up and say "But Damnata, we have white weapons too". How many of you have stabbed a pig? Are you aware of the effort involved? Note that the person you're stabbing will also put up a fight. So one on one contact..is tricky. There is also a level of emotional involvement in literally having blood on your hands, whereas there is an emotional dettachment in shooting at someone.
^For that reason, a person will think twice before engaging, which is a crucial point because they won't escalate the conflict as easily, and also that hesitation bids the other person time. Plenty of studies made on guns and how the amp up aggression.
But with a gun? Piss me off, I will try to reach no compromise or calm the conflict because if it comes down to fighting, I'll draw quicker and you'll be dead.Just let me take some steps away from you and shoot you.
Posted by DamnataNoted.Posted by MrFirebirdSure I have.Posted by DamnataI don't know Damsel. What kind of people live in Romania? Have you heard of any murders in your country?Posted by truecapThis is truly fucked up. Not even funny.
The person who put up this sign (even if it's a joke or not) pretty much has no issues with their neighbors getting killed by armed intruders, as long as it makes their argument about guns relevant.
What kind of people live amongst us...unreal.
Not by guns though.
Since the revolution, the one public incident involving guns happened in a hair saloon in 2012, if we're talking public space.
Dying by guns in Romania happens in hunting accidents. You don't get shot by police. Oh and rival gypsy/mobster clans (sounds more fancy than it is) but most favor swords.
Most deaths happen in villages in bar brawls, involving knives and axes.
A lot to be said about the general crime rate of Romania.
However, my odds of getting killed on the street here or in my home? Abysmal and I love it.
But like I said, different realities. I can't debate the reality of safe life here as far as guns go.
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Posted by DamnataActually, the comparisons are made by government statistics data. The CIA maintains a World Fact Book. So what you think is laughable is
I am aware the reality of life in America is something I don't experience so I'm not here to promote anti gun policies in the US.
But seeing Americans compare themselves to other countries as far as gun control goes? Laughable.
Just for a psychological perspective on why guns do actually kill people more than people kill people (that whole falacy is also amusing)
To kill someone without a gun in a one vs one battle...implies a lot of effort. For that reason the person who has the mindset to kill (the criminal, since it's the basis of the whole "guns don't kill people, people kill people" argument) will have to do some thinking. For one what are his odds at physical strength in overcoming his opponent? But sure, someone will come up and say "But Damnata, we have white weapons too". How many of you have stabbed a pig? Are you aware of the effort involved? Note that the person you're stabbing will also put up a fight. So one on one contact..is tricky. There is also a level of emotional involvement in literally having blood on your hands, whereas there is an emotional dettachment in shooting at someone.
^For that reason, a person will think twice before engaging, which is a crucial point because they won't escalate the conflict as easily, and also that hesitation bids the other person time. Plenty of studies made on guns and how the amp up aggression.
But with a gun? Piss me off, I will try to reach no compromise or calm the conflict because if it comes down to fighting, I'll draw quicker and you'll be dead.Just let me take some steps away from you and shoot you.
actually quite an institutional standard practice with governments - they like to know who's who and what's what, among other things.
1) a man can kill another without a gun, doing so with his bare hands.
2) There is a saying: God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal
3) Gunfights are not like what they depict in Hollywood.
4) You have a vivid imagination but imagination and reality are two entirely different things.
5) At your young age, you feel invincible. That proud mindset is what gets people killed. (regardless what they use to offend or defend)
Posted by MrFirebird1) I don't feel invincible. I feel safe in knowing I won't be a passerby on some street and get accidentally shot. There is a difference in what I said, if you can't see it..not my problem.
5) At your young age, you feel invincible. That proud mindset is what gets people killed. (regardless what they use to offend or defend)
2) As for imagination..yeah, it's not imagination but reality. Which I said is different than the US one so...it is what it is.
3) I said a man can kill another without a gun so I'm not sure why you bring up that point.
4) Samuel Colt didn't make them equal but I'm sure people starving around the world would feel they had equal opportunities as the western society if they just had a gun. I'm sure that will make them feel equal lmao. True fact: equality does not exist.
5) Gun fights are not as they depict in hollywood? Man the people who paid money to watch american sniper must really be disappointed.
6) Debate points or be passive aggressive and do personal attacks. Stick to one or the other pls.
7) I'm done here..beyond this point it's not my discussion to have.
Another fun imagination fact: I will never have to worry about taking my child to school and getting him back in a coffin because some romanian lunatic decided to storm a school and shoot people. Does shit happen? Sure, world is a violence place. But I like my odds better. I wonder how many Americans with minor children can say with 100% certainty they are not afraid.
Over and out.
Posted by DonnaElvira77Switzerland has a statutory right to bear arms under Article 3 of the 1997 Weapons Act.[26][27][28] Switzerland practices universal conscription, which requires that all able-bodied male citizens keep fully automatic firearms at home in case of a call-up. Every male between the ages of 20 and 34 is considered a candidate for conscription into the military, and following a brief period of active duty will commonly be enrolled in the militia until age or an inability to serve ends his service obligation.[29] Up until December 2009, these men were required to keep their government-issued selective fire combat rifles and semi-automatic handguns in their homes as long as they were enrolled in the armed forces.[30] Since January 2010, they have the option of depositing their personal firearm at a government arsenal.[31] Up until September 2007, soldiers received 50 rounds of government-issued ammunition in a sealed box for storage at home.[32] Switzerland may have one of the highest personal gun ownership rates in the world.[33] It has an overall low crime rate by European standards, but it has one of the highest rates of gun homicide, and the highest gun suicide rate in Europe.[34][35] However Switzerland also has one of the world's lowest overall homicide rates, a rate considerably lower than the European average.[36] Swiss gun laws are considered to be restrictive.[37] Owners are legally responsible for third party access and usage of their weapons. Licensure is similar to other Germanic countries.[38] In a referendum in February 2011 voters rejected a citizens' initiative which would have obliged armed services members to store their rifles and pistols on military compounds, rather than keep them at home, and required that privately owned firearms be registered.[35]Posted by MrFirebirdThat's slightly misleading. In Switzerland they have a people's militia instead of an army. All men must do active service for a year or something and they must keep their equipment at home. That's as far as I know anyway.Posted by truecap
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
HOW DARE THEY!!!!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms#Switzerland
Posted by MrFirebird
By the way, between 2001 - 2013 there were over 100,000 MORE death due to traffic fatalities than gun related deaths.
Oh yeah, stupid people, cars are much more meaner. But we don't see crybaby wanting to put restrictions on cars yet.
Soon though.. Get another idiot in there and they'll push for that too.
Guns are illegal in Mexico - and the criminals have taken over.
Posted by BlackNovaNow, how is my comment even one bit related to my morning dress routine?Posted by truecapLMFAO!Posted by beautifulsoul74It's just humor, but the sentiment is spot on.Posted by truecapThat's freaking hilarious! By respecting their neighbor's opinions, they in turn violate their privacy rights. Ironically they wouldn't have to worry about that neighbor if something were to happen given the fact that the neighbor can sue their pants off...and take their house! Yeah, bright idea to post a sign like that.
Anyway, I'm done. Can't take this thread seriously anymore lol
Someone breaks into your house....what's your 1st instinct? Draw your own gun or call someone who has a gun (9-1-1).
Do you fit your holster/gun as part of your morning get dressed routine?
What year do you live in? 1816?
and you're probably one of those girls who only wears pants!
L-O-fuckin-L
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Instead of turning it to the poster personally with insults, why don't you offer something substantial?
Posted by DamnataIt's good to see how other countries have handled it and what their success rates are.Posted by truecaplowest crime rate overall possibly but not in gun related incidents:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-faRzqJUItOo/VfMdW0Hh-KI/AAAAAAAAbYs/jzx36X7CNDE/s1600/Screenshot% 2B2015-09-11% 2Bat% 2B11.28.09% 2BAM.png
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/romania#total_number_of_gun_deaths
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/switzerland
Just for a comparison...
But maybe we can compare the US with other countries with strict gun control and see how it looks. The comparison with my country is brutal.click to expand
Some countries have established tight gun control and have been successful. Some countries have tightened gun control and it's been a disaster. There are so many influencing factors to look at, but seeing what has worked and hasn't worked is beneficial. Just have to consider all the other other factors contributing to violence as well as the criminal type, punishment types, population demographics, economics, types of crime, etc.
Good gawd. Imagine the amount of people and crime if we didn't have guns to put them in a hole.
#Thenewpaintwasheadshotred.
#Thenewpaintwasheadshotred.
Posted by SoulCoincidence?
Good gawd. Imagine the amount of people and crime if we didn't have guns to put them in a hole.
#Thenewpaintwasheadshotred.
Posted by MoonArtistLol
I've seen this in response to the gun neighbor yard sign......both are pretty funny.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/RachelnBuddy/gun% 20yard% 20sign.jpg
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