Thanks bud, that's what I'm trying to get the hang of.
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@ownard
Why do you want vag when you are acting like a vag yourself? You are already banging yourself.
I would hope with a Scorpio asc you would have a mysterious presence.
You said you don’t want to change yourself? Seems like you need to modify yourself to fix your issues.
An example is when they tell you to call them tomorrow. Say something like “I’m really busy, but I’ll try if I can. Because I’d definitely like to talk to you.”
You aren’t playing the stupid 3 day rule you read in books. These books are really lame to be honest.
Why do you want vag when you are acting like a vag yourself? You are already banging yourself.
I would hope with a Scorpio asc you would have a mysterious presence.
You said you don’t want to change yourself? Seems like you need to modify yourself to fix your issues.
An example is when they tell you to call them tomorrow. Say something like “I’m really busy, but I’ll try if I can. Because I’d definitely like to talk to you.”
You aren’t playing the stupid 3 day rule you read in books. These books are really lame to be honest.
Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXThat's what I plan on doing, otherwise I wouldn't have posted this at all.Posted by OwnardPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXI would like to rebut this. I've got little experience with women other than rejection, that is why I want to learn. It ain't an act, I was raised on the idea that if you're not good at something learn from someone who is.Posted by OwnardPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXNah, I see the problems in what I've done and I want to fix them.Posted by OwnardPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXAny way to get to level 0?
You seem to be at level 2.
Don't be that guy who subconsciously blames women for why he can't get a date.
First off, can we stop with the innocent guy act? lol
Unless you're a kid I doubt you're this clueless about women. Like, stop.
Anyway, let's address this book: "How to be the Bad Boy Women Love"
The book title alone implies that you have to be a bad boy (mistreat women) in order to gain their "love".
By subscribing to this idea what you're really saying is women need to be treated like shit because the "nice guy" routine isn't working. It's "their fault".
Your thought process seems to be more like: "Women don't want 'nice guys' like me, so it's time to treat them like shit".
So yeah, you subconsciously blame women and their "desire to be mistreated" as to why you can't get a date.
Newsflash: Nice guys don't have to say they're nice guys. If you are a genuinely nice guy, it shows.
If you have to say it, it's most likely not true and you're in denial about some of your own toxic behavior.
As for the book, the title itself is deceiving. It's less about treating girls like crap than standing up for yourself. If a girl is being a bitch needlessly, this book is about giving to tools to help deal with this.
And I'm not saying I want to treat girls like shit. I really don't. I've just seen what I'm doing wrong in the regards of putting out my intentions and flirting and I'm trying to fix those. The "Nice Guy" label is just the best way I've found of describing my situation.
"Nice guys" are assholes in denial. You should drop that term if you really are a genuine guy.
As I said, it doesn't need to be stated if it's true.
People on here have given some good advice that doesn't involve wallowing in self pity.
I suggest you take some of it into consideration and go from there.
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@ownard
Why do you want vag when you are acting like a vag yourself? You are already banging yourself.
I would hope with a Scorpio asc you would have a mysterious presence.
You said you don’t want to change yourself? Seems like you need to modify yourself to fix your issues.
An example is when they tell you to call them tomorrow. Say something like “I’m really busy, but I’ll try if I can. Because I’d definitely like to talk to you.”
You aren’t playing the stupid 3 day rule you read in books. These books are really lame to be honest.
Thanks for the advice. I don't plan on doing the 3 day rule, that's just dumb. Anytime I am busy I usually end up forgetting to talk to them later.
Stop pretending to be someone’s friend if you really want to date them.
This has nothing to do with being ‘nice’. And everything to do with being manipulative. Do better.
This has nothing to do with being ‘nice’. And everything to do with being manipulative. Do better.
Step 1: stop blaming having no game or being too pussy to go after you want on being ‘too nice’.
You need to understand that how women view friendships is very different than how men view friendships.
Posted by FloppyDiskHow so?Posted by LadyNeptune
You need to understand that how women view friendships is very different than how men view friendships.click to expand
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You need to understand that how women view friendships is very different than how men view friendships.click to expand
Posted by GeminiGirl052388Ok then, so you are saying there are basically no decent guys who'd appreciate you as 'the nice girl' and it has nothing to do with the type of guys you've been going for?Posted by enfant_terribleWho’s blaming who? Putting words in my mouth mate? Smh. Blame yourself for commenting on something you dont know about.Posted by GeminiGirl052388Don't blame the world for your crappy taste in dudes
I get ya. I used to be a nice girl. But after so many bad experiences... i bid the nice girl goodbye.click to expand
Bc I'll tell you there are tons of decent men and women out there. Those who bitch that there aren't usually have a problem with themselves or else they wouldn't be drawn to or accepting of what's bad for them. They'd be turned off
Posted by GeminiGirl052388So you equate being a nice person with being a doormat?Posted by enfant_terribleIm not saying there arent decent guys who’d appreciate me as a nice girl. My point was being “just” a nice girl doesnt cut it. There needs to be something more. Nice girl but can also be feisty, direct, go getter and all the other things. Me as a nice girl was me being a just a doormat at one point in my life. And that doormat girl is the one i decided to let go of because it did not work out for me. People like you and I evolve from experience. Its not about what others will accept about me. Its more about what I would accept about and for myself now. And i have met decent men. I dont meet druggies, jobless, wife beater type of men. Ive met cheaters though. And when someone cheats, its not really my fault is it? Its his own self-esteem. And i didnt choose someone knowing he is a cheater. I dont think there is a person on here or all over the world who hasnt met a bad egg yet. Everyone has. I’m not an isolated case.Posted by GeminiGirl052388Ok then, so you are saying there are basically no decent guys who'd appreciate you as 'the nice girl' and it has nothing to do with the type of guys you've been going for?Posted by enfant_terribleWho’s blaming who? Putting words in my mouth mate? Smh. Blame yourself for commenting on something you dont know about.Posted by GeminiGirl052388Don't blame the world for your crappy taste in dudes
I get ya. I used to be a nice girl. But after so many bad experiences... i bid the nice girl goodbye.
Bc I'll tell you there are tons of decent men and women out there. Those who bitch that there aren't usually have a problem with themselves or else they wouldn't be drawn to or accepting of what's bad for them. They'd be turned offclick to expand
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Posted by aquarius_manPlease elaborate.Posted by OwnardThe Leo?
Hey guys,
I was recently rejected by my Girl Best Friend and this opened my eyes to why I have been friendzoned like this now and in the past. I am the stereotypical Nice Guy. I am trying to break these habits and have been reading some literature and articles online about this. The main things I am trying to improve are my flirting and making my intentions clear. This is the part I have trouble with. Is there any tips or advice people can give me to help me break my nice guy tendancies and be able to flirt and attract the women I like? Any advice or literature is helpful to me. Thanks
Models - Mark Manson (In progress).
How to be the Bad Boy Women Love - Ron Louis and David Copperfield.
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I am experienced in this.
Don't try to change who you are - instead try to love who you are (what you love, your hobbies and interests) and get confidence out of that.
You need to 'disconnect' yourself from the girl and not put her on a pedestal.
And make her guess, let her chase you a bit, have a bit of mystery to you.
And most importantly: Don't act like you have a super interesting and busy life when you don't, just to respond late to texts because that is a so called way to not come across as 'desperate'.
As another tip I'd say watch videos from actualized.org on youtube. This guy gave me insight.
Don't try to change who you are - instead try to love who you are (what you love, your hobbies and interests) and get confidence out of that.
You need to 'disconnect' yourself from the girl and not put her on a pedestal.
And make her guess, let her chase you a bit, have a bit of mystery to you.
And most importantly: Don't act like you have a super interesting and busy life when you don't, just to respond late to texts because that is a so called way to not come across as 'desperate'.
As another tip I'd say watch videos from actualized.org on youtube. This guy gave me insight.
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