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Hi there, so I actually found myself reading your whole story. I'm amazed, though. 20 years and it's been like this? Gawd. Just shows how different I, someone of an earth sign, and you water signs who are ruled by your emotions, are.

Sorry, I'm not sure if I can offer you a helpful advice or something. As I'm dealing with a complicated pisces man myself, who sounded like yours in little ways. My pisces will say he'll call but he will not. And when he says he won't, he will. One day we were super close and enjoyed the talking, the next day and the next few days after that he's gone. I get really crazy if he doesn't, but I don't initiate contact and bug him in FB or text. No anything. I just get crazy myself, in silence.

Eventually, I got tired of this scenario which spanned for weeks. I just wanted to stop these games, to save myself from getting gaga all the time. I just suddenly stopped talking to him and replying to his texts, and he did so too.

For me, it's no biggie. No matter if I miss him or not. I thought, why can't he be a man? I thought, if he really wants me, he'll come back no matter what and pursue me. Sometimes, you gotta teach these guys that you're not always there when they need you.

I know it's nothing compared to your story. I'm amazed how you've held on with this for so long. Don't you think, it's time to enjoy yourself, meet other guys, be with other guys? Have you tried it? What was his reaction?

From your stories, it may seem like you're a decent girl yourself, why not enjoy your life as he does? If I were you, I would not held on to something or someone that hurts me more than he made me happy. But it's your choice.
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ofwhichtochoose
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Hello, noname. I'm really thankful that you jolted me to action. 🙂 Can you please continue to check in here from time to time to 'scold' me? I like your straightforward no-nonsense take. Mollycoddling will do me no good. I have long acknowledged that he will always be in control. I know that the Pisces cannot be controlled and this is something which I have never done. But it hurts to wallow on my own repeatedly over the years and simply waiting for him to return each time. I wouldn't have been hung up about him not calling if he didn't keep repeating it on his own. Wasn't it weird that he asked me, "Do you want me to call you?" but ended up not calling at all? Why would someone remind you of something that he hasn't done and still not do it? It is this lack of logical reasoning that wrangles my brain.

virgopride, I have tried to let go numerous times but each time, my attempt failed. My longest record ever was 1.5 years. Even then, it was negated as he persuaded me to meet him before he left for USA. Thanks for trusting that I am a "decent girl". I have tried my best to do the Right thing without compromising my values.🙂

So, Mr Pisces has been caught up with his work and presentations. That has been the bulk of our conversations. I fully understand his concern as he is on a scholarship and has the burden of attaining a certain grade or he'd have to pay the price. He happens to be doing a masters in a field that is completely alien to him. It seems weird that he would be dabbling in this as it is not his forte. The subjects which he is taking are what I had done myself. My friend thinks that he intentionally chose these subjects to impress me. (I wish!)

On Saturday, I went to another country to bring medical supplies to the poor. I'd posted that in my status update. Within hours, when he awoke, he posted a video "What is Rich? What is Poor? How can you be a positive influence?"

Today, a newfound friend from that very trip wrote on my Timeline and said that I was "kind and has helped the elderly and children over the years" (Charity is my passion during my leisure time. Frequently, people have the misperception that being well-heeled and enjoying a certain life style means that one cannot be passionate about charity or would cringe at getting dirty. I beg to differ! The smiles on their faces when you bring supplies to them are priceless. The joy of doing good makes me happy.)

So, right after my friend had praised me on my Timeline, Mr Pisce
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So, right after my friend had praised me on my Timeline, Mr Pisces posted another video WITHIN MINUTES, "Are you be a positive influence to others? How can you help others?" and proceeded to ramble with words incoporated from MY BLOG.

I reckon it is his stamp of approval. Is this his way of saying that he is proud of me?

Mr Pisces is a tough nut to crack. But I love him all the same.

I can only hope that it will be right eventually. Perhaps this time.

Am I too naive?

Up till this point in time, I find myself downplaying things with the self-chiding, "Perhaps you're only a good friend to him. Don't be silly."

Yet, I am reminded of that which has transpired. Handing him the photos, spending a day to get all his items with him before he left and his secret surprise birthday celebration for me -- these have culminated into something which surpasses doe-eyed friendship, don't they?

The mind is muddled.

Happy, yet afraid. URGH!
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ofwhichtochoose
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The Pisces is silent once again as he is under immense pressure from his studies.

The Scorpio flees once again. She knows that it is a bad time for him yet she cannot help but back away for a while. *sigh*

Why does the Scorpio tread so carefully that the only one to suffer is herself?

She is afraid to be hurt and yet, if she does not get a happy response, she assumes it must be her fault or that the Pisces is irritated with her. She must have done something wrong to incur his wrath and so the best is to steer clear.

What is on the Pisces' mind? She knows him well, and yet she knows him not.

Often, she encourages and counsels others with mantras of "JUST TRY. WHAT IS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN? AT LEAST YOU WILL KNOW."

Perhaps that's it. She doesn't want to know if the answer is bad. She doesn't want to know if she's not good enough. She doesn't want to know if he has forgotten her.

It is nothing but self-torture. She knows this is but sheer folly, but yet she persists in retreating and curling into a tight ball at the slightest hint of negativity, which is all but swirling thoughts in her very own head.

Silly Scorpio, isn't she?

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ofwhichtochoose
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I will be heading overseas for a holiday.

As such, I'd posted on Facebook about the need to apply for a visa.

A couple of minutes later, I posted,
"And all my walls are tall, painted Blue. (a colour significant to us)
And I would tear them down, tear them down for You
...The beautiful kind, to make up for lost time...
All I know is that we said "Hello" (the place where we'd met).
All my days, I'll remember Your face.
And all I know since yesterday is everything has changed."

In an hour, I told him that I was travelling alone.

He asked me where I was going. I replied in jest, Coming to visit You!"

To my surprise, he replied, "Really? If you come, tell me."

When I said, "Nope, I'm bluffing you!", he logged off immediately. (!!!)

To placate him, I continued, "Where are you headed? Come and say Hello?"

Unfortunately, due to our conflicting schedules, this wasn't possible and he took the effort to explain.

This sent me in a whirl.

The day before, he'd resumed addressing me with the affectionate nickname that he used to call me. He had also used ^^ Hugs & Wishes ^^ which was a thing we had whenever we were close.

So, when I told him that I was travelling alone and teased that I was coming to visit him, it was as clear as day that my heart was still with him. Hence, I felt that his reaction was that of excitement and delightful anticipation.

Is this a positive sign? Or is the Scorpio over-analysing yet again?
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Im reading all of ur posts and wonder why you not just simply let him know your feeling instead of wasting almost 20 years time to play hide and seek?? know what darling, no body can give you the valid answer but him and god.

you can stop this drama even at this second by just telling him, "hey best friend i have been falling in love with you for all this time, like bee to honey. I hope we share the mutual feeling. I dream to wake up with you beside me every morning for the rest of my life. However If you choose to be my dear friend instead of my dear one, i will appreciate your decision also and moving on with my love life. You will forever be treasured and cherished in my heart, I love you pisces xxx Scorpio " there you go, easy.

He might confirm he loves you or he just seeing you as friend. But i can assure you that he will be flattered that you're being honest and straightforward, a bit question his head if this is really happening for a day of two or few minutes (you never know with pisces-they have different sense of time compare to most people)

Don't get me wrong i do understand your feeling, im scorp my self and my man is pisces from head to toe, so i can relate to your situation perfectly.

But seriously, unless you make the first move about things with pisces, you will be forever questioned every of their move and it will be very much hurt for our scorpion head. Unless you enjoy the pain and the drama, us scorp can be carried away and turn into a drama queen too, although we don't want it in the first place.

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Im with my man for one and half years, we've been long distance, he swim away few times but always return, and so far the best approach with him is to be open and honest about whatever i feel. Being vulnerable is hard for scorp, we let ourself open and prone to hurt, but thats what the risk of being in relationship. It shows you alive and what you have is real.
I learn it's okay to experience the hurt and the pain when you're honest and open, because you know what u're dealing with, the reason why you hurt and cry, instead of running away and hide, in pain but have no idea what your situation is.

I think many people just waste their time assuming things and life in pain for years when they can just asking and get the straight answer (mostly because they dont want to face the fact that the answer might hurt). Well the answer may not what you want, it might be very hurt or you know what it might be what you just want with sweet closure and they life happily ever after. But you never know till you try.
Be honest. If you love him and want him let him know. Not with clues, subtle hints, etc. Just put mercy on your heart and tell it as it is. If he doesn't share the same feeling, you entitle to cry your eyes out but at least you know and you can move on, fly high soaring to the sky, get out from the murky water and live your life to the fullest. Get another mermaid man, if fish is what you like, but never let yourself stay in the dark. You are smart and decent woman, i believe you can do it. You just need to have desire to do it.

I do have problem with my man every now and then, it's relationship after all, not always a sweet rainbow, sometimes stormy, sometimes flat, sometimes i feel angry, hurt and cry for hours, but what set me free is i never hide anything or faking my feeling. When he makes me happy i let him know, when things he does or words he said hurt me, i tell him. And i always do it with love and respect. And lots of humor for sure.

I wish you good luck with your pisces man. Lots of hugs, ur scorp sis 🙂

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ofwhichtochoose
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Thank you for your support, Orvia. It is indeed very hard to try and be vulnerable and open as the Scorpio is frequently wary and innately defensive in order to avoid being hurt. Ironically, this creates a cycle of tears and frustration as the mind assumes and juggles what ifs with regrets.

I do wish to try and come clean again with him but preferably in his face when he returns in approximately 6 months time. Would it be too late?

After my holiday, I told him that I wish I could have dropped by USA but he was way too far away. (A return ticket to where he is costs almost $ 3000 in my country and takes 28 hours to arrive.)

He agreed and lamented that he would not return to our country either till he was done with his masters.

I plucked up my courage, "Swim here and take me to where you are. Hurry!"

To my surprise, he replied, "Swim Swim Swim to you." and called me affectionately by the nickname he had chosen for me all these years.

Yesterday, I blogged that the societal pressure in starting a family at my age is surmounting by the day and that I was in fact, hoping to have a family with him. Hours later, he responded on facebook in his post, "You and me, Forever Family."

The Scorpio in me is unaccustomed to having to 'chase' the Pisces.

We did not begin as friends and we were never quite friends. There is attraction. There is flirtation. I know that he checks me out each time we meet and he told me that I am someone important & special to him and that it doesn't matter where we went because it's the company that matters. He once asked many years ago, "Are you happy? Have i contributed to your happiness? Are you happy?" That question haunts me till this day.

I would like to tell the Pisces, "I may not have shared my youth with you, but I'd most certainly like to grow old with You." Would that scare him? Would he turn tail and flee?

I am aware that the Scorpio's approach is direct and acute while the Pisces cannot be cornered and has to always be given the illusion of a choice. Hence, I am worried about wording/phrasing my thoughts.

Do remember that he took me out for my birthday and treated me like a girlfriend twice before he left. Had he not done so, I would have told myself that it was all in my mind.

This situation has plagued us for 9 years. It took us 10 years before that, with side glances and stares just to say hello to each other.

On our first date, he cornered me till I agreed to go out with him. He fed me ic
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On our first date, he cornered me till I agreed to go out with him. He fed me ice-cream and we laughed the night away.We were never friends to begin with. Thus, I am afraid that should any part of my actions result in the consequence of scaring him off and losing him altogether, I would be devastated and blame myself.

I have already done my part and given him the photo album of us before he left. Does his actions thereafter mean that it is mutual too?
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This is what i learn about men regardless their sun sign sweety, 'Man who really loves you, they will never leave you, Man who is fated to be in your life, they will stay in the end'

So don't worry to express what you feel to him, just remember do it with honesty and love.

My pisces man has really wounded me lately, to the point where he's very very sorry for doing that, claimed that he just feel panicked and pressured at that time. I was really disappointed, i pointed out everything he did that upset me, but i didn't make any accusation, like call him liar or another bad words you can think of, i just let him know how i feel, he then replied he deserved to be hated by me, bla bla bla and after a few days i offer discussion to solve our issues. Then, he swim away, poof, don't talk to me or answering my texts at all, swim to his own world i guess. But keep his messenger on though he remain silent. My last message to him was although bad things happened, i love you and i wish you to reach me.

My point is, i believe when we love someone we need to build the communication. Is not about chasing or games. So, if you want to be with him, let him know. Clear. I believe he care and interested, but he might also not sure how to make a move. Yes, normally men do chase and visible about their intention when they want you, but everyone is different and unique.
My advice is still the same. Tell him your feeling. Well, there is always consequences you need to face, but for me Truth and honesty no matter how bitter will always be much better to be said sooner than later...
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I am sad to report that Mr Pisces and I are wallowing in silence again. Facebook is our only form of communication. Even so,it is salient through each other's posts.

==Part 1==

As I had gone to NYC in 2012, I had told him before he left in December 2012 that if there was one place in the world to live in, I would choose NYC for I loved its culture, people, food and shopping. Mr Pisces wrinkled his nose and said that museums were boring and that he would much prefer places with water and the sea than to go for a holiday in the city. Additionally, I am a lover of musicals and concerts and frequently attend them in my country. So when I was in NYC, I headed to Broadway to satiate my appetite for musicals naturally. Mr Pisces also said that he would probably fall asleep in a musical or concert. It was not his thing. I laughed and said, well, that was why I was an Arts person and he was not.

So imagine my shock when I came back after my holiday (not NYC) as mentioned in the previous post in August 2013 and shortly after, he went to NYC for a holiday.

Not only did he trace my entire NYC route (including Niagara Falls), he had posted a picture of himself at the Falls with a singular sentence "___(his nickname) was here." To top it off, he had actually gone to The Met, Guggenheim & Broadway! These were places that he had disdain for but had visited.

I told myself that it was sheer coincidence.

==Part 2==

As Literature is one of my pet subjects and I turn to writing poems from time to time, those who have known me for some time would be able to sieve out my style and I have a penchant for rather archaic words or weave them in a convoluted manner that one can only describe as being "very me".

Hence, I was shocked when he changed his cover picture and wrote a poem with phrases that were fished out from my poem. Words that I had particularly favoured. The context of his poem was about being in pain and despair that arose from loneliness.

Still, I told myself that it was sheer coincidence.

==Part 3==

I poured all my emotions into writing in my blog, knowing that he'd read it and thus I expounded on the fact that I had been broken with not receiving The Call before he left for USA in December 2012 that would have justified the years. I didn't need to know if he had feelings (how bold of me to assume!). I just needed to know to what extent did I have a place in his heart.

A few nights ago, I shared a friend's picture which had these
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A few nights ago, I shared a friend's picture which had these scrawls,
"Talk is cheap. If you like me, tell me. If you miss me, show me. If you love me, prove it."

This was followed up by a song with these lyrics :

'Well you see her when you fall asleep
But never to touch and never to keep
Coz you loved her too much and you dive too deep

Well you only need the light when it's burning low
Only miss the sun when it starts to snow
Only know you love her when you let her go

Only know you??ve been high when you??re feeling low
Only hate the road when you??re missing home
Only know you love her when you let her go

And you let her go'

As if on cue, he broke the wall of silence with a simple gesture. He 'Liked' it. I broke down and cried my heart out.

==============================================

My confidante has chided me and pointed out that it is blatant that we are waving banners ("you're beyond dropping hints") to each other.

Yet, time and time again, even at this moment, I am curling inwards into my shell and denying that it could be. I know it is self-defeatist and sabotaging nobody but myself.

Still, I find myself uttering the dreaded words that have come to characterise our story -
"No, it is not me. Perhaps it is sheer coincidence."

This stems from my insecurity, I guess. As long as he does not tell me in person or with a message, it is but mere speculation. Right? 😢
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ummm can I ask what exactly the results of your speculation are?

this is the problem with communication... people suck at it even when engaged 1-to-1. so when it is all indirect communication. .. through facebook pictures and song lyrics the interpretation possibilities are endless.

so... to assume that things you take one way are beong taken the same way by another (and a fish no less)... is just silly.
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Hi Deezie,

If it were merely based on Facebook, it would be pretty silly. As we have a 'history' of sorts (as you read the entire thread from the first post), each post is usually a sign of sorts to each other. We've been doing this for years whenever we ignore each other, only to draw close again after some time.

As mentioned, he broke the wall of silence again by liking this song that I'd posted on Oct 12:

'Well you see her when you fall asleep
But never to touch and never to keep
Coz you loved her too much and you dive too deep

Well you only need the light when it's burning low
Only miss the sun when it starts to snow
Only know you love her when you let her go

Only know you??ve been high when you??re feeling low
Only hate the road when you??re missing home
Only know you love her when you let her go

And you let her go'

Still, I told myself that it was sheer coincidence. He had no Facebook activity thereafter for days.

On Oct 15, the only activity he had was posting the same song.

Besides posting the same parts that I'd chosen, he also wrote, "This song is so real."

The song had festered within him for 4 days.

I cannot help but feel that I'd reached out to him via the song and it worked, that he was now indicating that he missed me too.

Is it all my imagination?

I know I keep dwelling on the same issues and try to justify that he has feelings for me; yet, I keep dismissing everything as sheer coincidence.

Knowing Mr Pisces' elusive nature, I cannot simply ask him, "Hey, do you have feelings for me?".

I believe he does. At the same time, I tell myself not to be shameless for what if it turned out to be simply imaginary slivers? The continuum of wrought emotions fills the faculty of my mind.

I want to know for sure.

Everyone who knows us is exasperated as they ascertain our blatant signals to each other.

Yet, without his affirmation (and initiative), everything is but mere speculation.

Why won't he just be upfront about it and tell me so?



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Well - he may be sitting there wondering the same thing about you.

Posted by ofwhichtochoose
I want to know for sure.



Fact of the matter is... you are much more content sitting in "what if" land... than reality.
Otherwise, you'd speak directly to him about your feelings, and deal with things appropriately after you heard what he had to say in response.

If you want to know for sure, and you can't release things into the will of the universe... stop imagining and start acting. This stuff about his elusive nature, and you can't be direct with him because of that.... that's an excuse. You don't want to expose yourself and chance it that you will no longer be able to fantasize about all the minutia that has no concrete evidence behind it.

I could probably give you 5 different ways I could interpret those song lyrics. So to assume that it 'festered' with him for 4 days... is a bit of a stretch.

Scorpy... set down the notebook of details and research you are collecting, and either shit... or get off the pot.

If you insist on obsessing over his facebook activity... I'm going to throw many clich?s at you 😄
The greatest rewards come from the greatest risks. And if it doesn't pan out, then you can move on knowing, instead of wasting time wondering. There are no right or wrong moves, when someone already likes you.

I hope you can summon up some courage to finally risk it and find out what the hell is going on. Because he is the only one that truly can tell you how he feels. As you well know.

Good luck!
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Posted by ofwhichtochoose
Why won't he just be upfront about it and tell me so?




...and just to add what my cynical response would look like:

Maybe he's not being upfront and telling you so, because he doesn't have the feelings for you that you think he does.

Maybe he's not looking for a relationship at this point in his life. Maybe he never wants one.

and back to my previous post - the only way you are going to know these things is by asking him. Or truly stop obsessing over it, live life, and maybe one day you will be surprised by his initiative when he's ready (if he feels what you think he feels).
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Deezie, in a way, I am living in a cumulation of past 'evidence'. As you read the first post, he had badgered me to meet him for our first date and when I wouldn't, he cornered me (I have no idea how he found me) and we went for dinner where he fed me.

Time and time again, it seemed that it was certain over the years, as mentioned in the numerous posts here. That was then.

The last of which was celebrating my birthday in November just before he left for USA. His then-girlfriend of 3 months had her birthday a week before mine. Why would he bother to celebrate my birthday when I hadn't seen him for 1.5 years up till then and he KNEW that I was avoiding him? That is a huge question that looms in my head. Why would you care about surprising me when you have a new girlfriend?

Prior to that, when they had just gotten together in August 2012, they went to Vietnam on a work trip. While she was seated in the Viet version of Starbucks, he texted me at that moment, that he had bought Viet coffee for me. Unknown to me, he had also bought other things to accumulate as a surprise for my birthday.

Don't you find it weird that he would do so? There he was with his new girlfriend in a foreign cafe where she posted a picture happily but there he was not only texting me but buying stuff for me? I had been avoiding him for 1.5 years. How would he know that he would be seeing me? Wasn't it intentional?

That said, he also bought more things for me thereafter from other countries as he travelled with her on business trips. Wouldn't you concentrate on your new girlfriend instead of collecting items for me in different countries to surprise me on my birthday?

Also, about THE CALL before he left....
I hadn't reminded him to call me. He texted me on his own accord. THRICE. As to why he couldn't call the night before. It wasn't as if I had demanded an answer nor bugged him to. He kept giving excuses ON HIS OWN ACCORD as to why he didn't call me, CONTINUED to talk to me and then he simply flew off to USA.

I don't understand that bit at all. He then broke up with her in Feb 2013. Their relationship was very short-lived and I knew that it wouldn't last because of all the 'funny business' with me.

I could drop bits of evidence like him asking me, "Are you happy? Have I contributed to your happiness?"

Or him attempting to kiss me while surprising me yet again with a gift he had bought from another country and disrupted my work just to hand it to me....

Or hi
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Or him telling me that it's my company that matters and it doesn't matter what we do or where we go.

Or me leaning on him on the day before he left and for the first time, our hands & bodies touched 'accidentally' but neither moved away.

Or in August 2013, when I teased him about going to visit him "Swim here and take me to where you are!" and he replied, "Swim swim swim to you"

Or that he had sent me hearts and -HuG-s and kisses throughout the years...

Or that he moved to where I was FOUR TIMES?

Or....

I want to tell myself that he sees me as just a friend.

I really do.

But do friends do all these and more?
(More details are in the numerous posts here.)

Take into account that I'd also given him an album of all our photos with cheesy lyrics from love songs that he had shared with me over the years.

Rationale and emotions are in an ongoing tussle. 😢
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yes, yes... I have seen it all, the numerous times it has all been mentioned.

don't mistake me for not understanding. I am just not as willing to attach as much meaning to it as you are.

in general... men who want a woman will make it happen. this guy has had ample opportunity. and if you are still convinced that he has feelings for you... then there is minimal risk in approaching him. I maintain that if he does have feelings, you speaking up and bwing direct with him will not make him swim away. him swimming away means that he doesn't have feelings and I think you are scared for that truth to come out.

it only has to be as complicated as you want to make it.

I am not trying to be dismissive of your feelings here. you either want to know or you don't. you can't put qualifiers on how you come to know. and re-hashing the situation over and over is severely taxing to your energy. desperation vibes, y'know? I don't know how else to put this all. so godspeed. I hope you find the answers that will help you move forward with this situation in a concrete manner.
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Hey Deezie, I hadn't realised that you had commented in the first few posts. My apologies for that slip.

I do wish to clarify with him but him being in USA for his Masters puts us in a circumstance that is not exactly poised for the most positive of all answers.

He is returning to my country in March 2014.

Would it be too naive of me to wait till he returns and then seek to thrash it out with him?
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well... naive or not, you have to do what makes the most sense to you. just know that there is no right or wrong move in circumstances like this. there is no... well if I had done xyz differently then maybe it would have had a different result. because you can also play the flip side of that approach and use hindsight to say 'well if I would have only'. this is why it is important to follow your own heart and intuition. that way you can live with what you have done, because it was all fully within your own control. not duress and regret because of what someone else told you to do.

i know what I would do in your situation, but you have to figure out what you can live with.

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Second-guessing myself has become a familiar trait.

A great exemplification of this would be the time when we watched a movie.

He had wanted to watch Movie A.
I had wanted to watch Movie A too.

But because Movie B was a typical Hollywood blockbuster, he suggested watching Movie B.
Thinking that Movie B was what he'd wanted, I agreed enthusiastically.

After purchasing the tickets for Movie B, we went to have dinner where we ordered food that we thought each other would like. It turned out that whatever we had rejected in our minds was actually what each other had wanted. If only we had voiced our opinions.

After dinner, it was time to catch our movie.

As we headed towards the cinema, we saw a large banner for Movie A. I commented that it was pretty cute and I would love to watch it. He echoed this sentiment and said that he would love to watch it too.

I remarked that I had wanted to watch it but I thought that Movie B was his choice.
He retorted that he had thought I would want to catch movie B and thus, had suggested it.

We stared at each other and gasped in disbelief,
"You mean to say that both of us wanted A but we chose B because we thought it was the other person's preference?!!!!"
"Why are we watching B when both of us wanted A?!!!"
"WE SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID SO!"

As luck would have it, Mr Pisces successfully managed to exchange our tickets for Movie A and we were absolutely thrilled to end up watching Movie A instead of settling for B.

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There are various incidents where this phenomenon was rife.
We'd tried to second-guess each other and ourselves, only to find that each time, what we had thought was right for the other party was actually WRONG.

Yet, here I am, not having learnt that lesson.

Could it be that he is on the other side of the world, watching and waiting for me to say a word while thinking that it is best that he leaves me alone?
And here I am, awaiting for a word or two and asserting that perhaps it is best to steer clear from Mr Pisces?

How plausible would that be?

The Scorpio has several permutations and outcomes.

She wants to know, but is afraid that rocking the boat at the wrong stroke will throw everything off course and have dire consequences.

It is so silly. She knows it so.

Yet, the heart chooses to segregate itself from logical reasoning.
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Countless attempts have been made to type "Hey, I miss you." but not once had I dared to hit the 'Send' button and let it transpire into reality.

Yes, Deezie. I guess you are right about it being an issue of control. I need to know each step prior to taking it because I do not wish to fall.

Perhaps I am not afraid of The Answer.

Rather, I am afraid that I would bear the responsibility of mucking things up should something go terribly awry, that the burden of being the catalyst would fall squarely on my shoulders.

In other words, I am afraid that the reason for things going askew would be nobody but myself.

Tag, I'm it.

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He texted me tonight. It was cold initially but it soon gave way to blatant references and finally culminated in him being sarcastic about something I had done to intentionally hurt him so that he would react. I was in shock and we were silent for 8 minutes (yes, I counted) before I replied, "I actually don't know what to say to that" and he replied coldly, "No need to say anything". Then, silence permeated before we (sort of) talked about things.

I'm really glad that I haven't been insane nor imagining it.

It's not quite the full disclosure of what I'd wanted, but for Mr Pisces to reveal this much tonight, I can tell you that it has been the most honest exchange we've had (and the bravest for me too!)

I suppose we are aware that we can possibly never be, but strangely, I'm at peace.

Like I said, it's not about us getting together, given our circumstances.

It's the knowing.

It's the affirmation that I haven't been delusional.

It's the closure.

5 more months and Mr Pisces will be back in my country for good.

Perhaps we'll have a better exchange then. Even if that doesn't transpire, I hope that I would find it in myself to have the courage to be his Friend.

Thanks, Deezie. I'd read your replies to another thread (also Scorpio vs Pisces) that rings a similar tune to my story. So I revisited my thread today and decided that if we had contact again -- instead of all those cryptic posting on Facebook and knowing that he reads my blog (which has become a Dear Diary of sorts)-- I would not hide behind my fear.

It's the knowing.
It's the closure.

I cannot emphasize enough on this salient point.

Yay for now. 🙂
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Yes!!!

Now that I know that I haven't been imagining it,

That all the Facebooking, notes, blogging etc hadn't been sheer coincidence as I'd tried to tell myself,

I'm really Happy in that sense.

I think we may choose to let it go due to our circumstances,

But finally, goodness!

I HAVEN'T BEEN SHAMLESS NOR INSANE NOR IMAGINED THAT HE COULD HAVE FEELINGS FOR ME.

It was all real!!!

If we do not end up as a couple, I know that he would be a close friend and that it is up to me to decide if I have the courage to accept him as a friend. He is a great guy and is definitely a wonderful friend to have. I have been the one to run away from him all these years, so let's hope that whatever happens, I will not flee.

I feel like a caged bird that has been set free.

Even if the outcome is not a Happy Ever After or it results in just doe-eyed friendship, it is OK.

Because I already know that he DOES have feelings for me.

That is enough. YAY and thanks so much, Deezie!

I hadn't realised that you'd followed this thread closely all this while.

THANKS FOR CARING and calling me out when I cowered in fear. (Pardon my rather juvenile exuberance in this post. It happens when I am happy or excited...) 🙂
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Very glad to hear you have gotten some mental relief! Thank you for sharing your updates 🙂

If you feel comfortable (and have the information) would you be so kind as to PM me the chart details for the two of you?? Just for my own learning purposes, I'd like to have a look at the synastry in full.

If not, that's cool!

The thing about fear is.... it will never make you escape destiny's claw (it will actually just stall you in it), so put the chin up and face it head on. Learn, live, grow! It will all turn out the way it is meant to be. Often times with pisces (and I'm speaking on my own behalf here) it's best to be emotionally upfront with me. No games, not waiting me out, hiding, etc. I can handle any truth someone has to confide in me with better tact than I can at guessing around what you are after.

Please do update, as things happen 🙂