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Posted by Erinelda

Every Pisces I know likes their booze but it could be a coincidence. My Pisces best friend works wine into her meal plan even when hardcore dieting. Scorpios I have met seem more about the drugs.

But the biggest factor of substance abuse is pain, not star sign.


true

Pisceans tend to be in a lot of pain

however at the same time an advantage may be that we are more aware of the source

and such have a semi buffer for when we use substances

i personally have refused to indulge when i was sad because i didn't want to develop an unhealthy habit

although i have had some slip ups

the thought of self-medicating every day seems horrific
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I don’t know of any among my family and friends. I’ve seen lots addicted virgos

ala Charlie Sheen

Virgo sun+sag moon are the worst cases usually
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noticed it's the pisces mooners and virgo mooners who end up destitute, having squandered on drugs

but sag moon too coz gotta deal with the depression
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Pisces are interested into everything that is clandestine and explorative, for the intellectual experience and the possibility to get a edge on the game.

Pisces were probably leading the drug culture in the early 60s. I mean before the wave actually becomes popular because they aren't interested once it becomes mundane and vulgar.

And not interested in the loss of freedom of an addiction and more likely to stop cold with the addiction.

Pisces escapism is mostly an intellectual thing.



the ones I know who are heavily indulging with drugs/booze are virgo. The ones who get into real trouble with addictions are scorpio and gemini.
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Posted by virgoOPPP

pisces drinks

virgos use drugs

i do like the booze

but only the stuff that taste good

and in small to moderate quantities

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I prefer psilocybin in terms of getting high from an exogenous source/ligand

( tried it once and it did help me with depression but also gain insight about destructive thinking patterns I have and how i should go about actively changing them)

however, the best high comes from yoga for me which i hypothesize is similar to a runner's high

in terms of the fact that it's a high derived from extreme physical exertion.

endorphins our bodies natural opiates are released to help facilitate a general seem of calm and well being

i also like the practice of yoga too for its ability to aid in facilitating deep insight about ourselves
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Posted by hydorah

Pisces are interested into everything that is clandestine and explorative, for the intellectual experience and the possibility to get a edge on the game.

Pisces were probably leading the drug culture in the early 60s. I mean before the wave actually becomes popular because they aren't interested once it becomes mundane and vulgar.

And not interested in the loss of freedom of an addiction and more likely to stop cold with the addiction.

Pisces escapism is mostly an intellectual thing.



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i couldn't have said it better

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sag moons gold dig

coz who gonna pay for all the drugs?

mutables 😂

lmao sag’s hate responsibility so much they cant even fund their own addiction
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i'll be honest, sags both men and women have shown the MOST greed when it comes to acquiring material possessions with or without them having worked for it. i am talking insurances, wills and properties. (if this is so evident by sun alone, the moon is even WORSE).

i'm so tired of these shit written about them--- expansions of horizons, the mind and philosophical lives. know what? i've never known anybody more delusional, so lost and making a home from their misfortunes. when a Sag is out of luck, they are the worst. laser focus on their victim selves and how the world 'caged' them. boo hoo.

earth signs care about material possession that they worked for but Sags are really the most selfish, will not even blink an eye to swallow your resources to fund whatever's their latest numbing agent.
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Posted by Adreamuponwaking

is it true what they say?

are we all addicts or prone to becoming addicted?

Discuss

I feel like we are easily open to addiction because

one of our strongest defenses is escapism.

And something in us is linking us to some

kind of memory or knowing that this place

isn't it. That pain and suffering in any form is false.

So as a kid it was video games...and art(?)

now it's food. Well, I've slowly learned

to just eat one or twice a day and see it as

something like a sacred event. My taste buds

are so strong and food can be so damn good to me.

Just tired of all the things around me that isn't an authentic

representation of who we really are. So finding what feels good feels right.

And I guess what feels right is linked to that feeling of love. Which is linked from that illusion (unhealthy addiction)

The only thing to me that is real. What is your addiction? I also daydream a lot but I guess that's not an addiction?

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There is more of a propensity for addiction with Neptune, not just substances but stuff like gaming for example. There is a desire to escape from real life, it’s a very spiritual energy and often finds life hard. Dreamy and creative. I’ve Sun Neptune in 7, I got addicted to rship and the men I was with ...


hmmm.....for me i don't think it's a desire to escape per se

but rather we are attracted and indulge in things that we can learn from
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There is more of a propensity for addiction with Neptune, not just substances but stuff like gaming for example. There is a desire to escape from real life, it’s a very spiritual energy and often finds life hard. Dreamy and creative. I’ve Sun Neptune in 7, I got addicted to rship and the men I was with ...


this has been true for me for all of my past romantic interests and relationships

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sag moons gold dig

coz who gonna pay for all the drugs?

mutables 😂

lmao sag’s hate responsibility so much they cant even fund their own addiction

i'll be honest, sags both men and women have shown the MOST greed when it comes to acquiring material possessions with or without them having worked for it. i am talking insurances and wills.

i'm so tired of these shit written about them--- expansions of horizons, the mind and philosophical lives. know what? i've never known anybody more delusional, so lost and making a home from their misfortunes. when a Sag is out of luck, they are the worst. laser focus on their victim selves and how the world 'caged' them. boo hoo.

earth signs care about material possession that they worked for but Sags are really the most selfish, will not even blink an eye to swallow your resources to fund whatever's their latest numbing agent.

i 100% agree w/ this. i know 7 sag moons who always talk about grand ideas but never actually wanna do the hard work to get them there. it’s like they expect it all to be handed to them.

the self pity is SO palpable its unreal.

i, also find, that if i am out partying w/ one of these sag moons, they always expect me to share whatever drug/booze i have... like it’s just expected.

one will even get all grabby hands & just take w/ out asking.
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sag self-pity is so pathetic to me coz they're not even TRYING. it's all just me me me me. sag exudes an energy that is either loved or hated. that's why they're the most likely to become extremely famous. people have very strong reactions to them.

virgos think they have so much fucking self-control so when we get into shit, we get in deep and heavy. we overestimate our capacity for everything.
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sag moons gold dig

coz who gonna pay for all the drugs?

mutables 😂

lmao sag’s hate responsibility so much they cant even fund their own addiction

i'll be honest, sags both men and women have shown the MOST greed when it comes to acquiring material possessions with or without them having worked for it. i am talking insurances and wills.

i'm so tired of these shit written about them--- expansions of horizons, the mind and philosophical lives. know what? i've never known anybody more delusional, so lost and making a home from their misfortunes. when a Sag is out of luck, they are the worst. laser focus on their victim selves and how the world 'caged' them. boo hoo.

earth signs care about material possession that they worked for but Sags are really the most selfish, will not even blink an eye to swallow your resources to fund whatever's their latest numbing agent.

i 100% agree w/ this. i know 7 sag moons who always talk about grand ideas but never actually wanna do the hard work to get them there. it’s like they expect it all to be handed to them.

the self pity is SO palpable its unreal.

i, also find, that if i am out partying w/ one of these sag moons, they always expect me to share whatever drug/booze i have... like it’s just expected.

one will even get all grabby hands & just take w/ out asking.

sag self-pity is so pathetic to me coz they're not even TRYING. it's all just me me me me. sag exudes an energy that is either loved or hated. that's why they're the most likely to become extremely famous. people have very strong reactions to them.

virgos think they have so much fucking self-control so when we get into shit, we get in deep and heavy. we overestimate our capacity for everything.

ya thats the thing - the lack of motivation for hard work, expecting everyone else to pick up their slack.

the self pitying sag has the worst case of “the world owes me” mentality.

i actually find the virgo placements in my life like the feeling of totally submitting to drugs... they are the ones who go the hardest bc they want a temporary loss of control & not have to worry about it.
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sadly true for many virgos

many times i wonder if i can get away from my own head

sag freedom = at the expense of someone else

sag expansion = insatiable greed

sag philosophy = self-victimizing
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nobody greedier than a Sagittarius. not even a Cap venus, Taurus planets and 2nd house issues. who is secretly plotting their gains during the wakes of relatives? barely having the death certificate yet already in line for what they can get?generosity? more like cheapassery. insensitive fucks they are too coz don't philosophy demand that we all move on for life is but an ever-fleeting... whatever bullshit they come up with. they're always out there trying to line their pockets.

these people align themselves with more exciting, socially-acceptable people like Gemini or someone who can take care of them like Cancers or Libras who'd put up with their shit.

great fame haha let the people have their trainwreck.
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I believe there is another water sign known to be more prominent to addiction other than the piseans.

hmmm cancers?

Well, let's look at my chart, since it contains ample amounts of both.

Cancer - Rising, Moon, Sun, Mercury

Pisces - Midheaven, Mars

I don't do any drugs. In fact, I don't drink alcohol. My will power (what I consume and don't consume and how much I exercise) is extremely high relative to the average person. I can pretty much do whatever I tell myself to do and I've never had any sort of addiction. I recently took hardcore pain killers after a surgery and minimized it to only a few times when it was necessary. And I could not wait to stop taking them.

I have Neptune in the 6th and I have read that this can make someone prone to alcoholism and other addictions. But that Neptune is also near my 6th Saturn, which I believe instills this will power in me.

Thus, simply looking at signs isn't enough to determine susceptibility to addictions. You have to look at planet locations and aspects. A 6th house planetary focus can bestow one with health-oriented (Virgo) tendencies and help one to avoid drugs, regardless of sensitive Pisces/Cancer energy present throughout the chart. End of demonstration.
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But you're Cancer dom, not Pisces
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do pisces use drugs and alcohol as an escape as they say ?

or rather do we use them for the opposite effect

to ground ourselves and catalyze insight about our own lives and the world around us

I knew a Pisces who would probably strongly argue the latter there.

Pretty much all of the Pisces people I have known have used drugs and/or alcohol, though I dont think all of them necessarily have a problem with it. Some definitely do though. Drug and alcohol abuse are just common escape tools for humans, and we all have our reasons.
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I believe there is another water sign known to be more prominent to addiction other than the piseans.

hmmm cancers?

Well, let's look at my chart, since it contains ample amounts of both.

Cancer - Rising, Moon, Sun, Mercury

Pisces - Midheaven, Mars

I don't do any drugs. In fact, I don't drink alcohol. My will power (what I consume and don't consume and how much I exercise) is extremely high relative to the average person. I can pretty much do whatever I tell myself to do and I've never had any sort of addiction. I recently took hardcore pain killers after a surgery and minimized it to only a few times when it was necessary. And I could not wait to stop taking them.

I have Neptune in the 6th and I have read that this can make someone prone to alcoholism and other addictions. But that Neptune is also near my 6th Saturn, which I believe instills this will power in me.

Thus, simply looking at signs isn't enough to determine susceptibility to addictions. You have to look at planet locations and aspects. A 6th house planetary focus can bestow one with health-oriented (Virgo) tendencies and help one to avoid drugs, regardless of sensitive Pisces/Cancer energy present throughout the chart. End of demonstration.

But you're Cancer dom, not Pisces

I'll concede to that one.
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I was actually talking about the Scorps, so if I would have seen that in your chart I would accuse you of lying.
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No thats a stereotype for sure. I flushed down the pain meds a few days after my car accident cause I didn't like how they were making me feel. Like a stranger in my own body.

I smoke weed every day and will do a 'break' for a week every monthish, give or take so my tolerance levels go down.

Have a full weekend off tho so Imma do shrommies later tonight. Haven't in a good while.
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I smoke weed every day and will do a 'break' for a week every monthish, give or take so my tolerance levels go down.

Have a full weekend off tho so Imma do shrommies later tonight. Haven't in a good while.


i don't think i really like the ganja......

shroomies or rather psilocibin however help with the depression/introspection.

cannabis makes my depression worse i've noticed.

it used to help me not give a fuck like 8 years ago.

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Hmm.

Pisces sun, Virgo moon here.

Well I used to be a massive stoner. However when I smoked pot the other day, I realised it’s not for me anymore. Have no intention whatsoever to smoke as much as I used to. It just triggers my anxiety now.

I don’t even enjoy drinking, hate the hangovers so if I drink it would have to be in a social setting.

In saying all that, I do think I have an addictive personality and I tend to over do things that make me feel good like I love running and put a lot of time and effort into running because it makes me feel good. I started running a couple of times a week and next thing you know it became every day, even in the rain. It’s pretty extreme but it makes me feel so good like a sick hedonist.
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Hmm.

Pisces sun, Virgo moon here.

Well I used to be a massive stoner. However when I smoked pot the other day, I realised it’s not for me anymore. Have no intention whatsoever to smoke as much as I used to. It just triggers my anxiety now.

I don’t even enjoy drinking, hate the hangovers so if I drink it would have to be in a social setting.

In saying all that, I do think I have an addictive personality and I tend to over do things that make me feel good like I love running and put a lot of time and effort into running because it makes me feel good. I started running a couple of times a week and next thing you know it became every day, even in the rain. It’s pretty extreme but it makes me feel so good like a sick hedonist.


Yeah runners high is a thing .

For me it’s yoga .

It’s the only thing that’s helped with the depression. So far .
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I know this is an old thread however I’d like to share my experience as a Pisces. I struggled heavily with an addiction to intravenous carfentanyl, xanax, and uppers for 2 1/2 years, with 5 overdoses. I used drugs to escape reality and whatever hurt I felt at the time. The drugs made me feel confident and safe, I used uppers to perform better at work and would shoot carfentanyl/heroin with a benzo like xanax to come down during the night. If a Pisces is really hurt the craving to escape via narcotics is very strong. If any other struggling Pisces reads this, choose life. There’s hope beyond the insanity of addiction. Reach out, there’s bound to be someone who loves you, don’t self destruct.
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Posted by LadyNeptune

No thats a stereotype for sure. I flushed down the pain meds a few days after my car accident cause I didn't like how they were making me feel. Like a stranger in my own body.

I smoke weed every day and will do a 'break' for a week every monthish, give or take so my tolerance levels go down.

Have a full weekend off tho so Imma do shrommies later tonight. Haven't in a good while.


That figures! I rest my case.
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Posted by ElvisStalinWoods

In my experience, they all do but it differs between men and women.

For Pisces women, they usually seem to abuse weed. Heavier drugs are abused if they've been abused. For some reason, the women seem to come out of it better than the men. They usually always wind up being generally pro-weed and being productive and somehow always into horticultural stuff in those cases.

The men in the worst case always abuse whatever substance of their choice and remain in that state forever. If I had a dollar for every lanky piscean man I know, who barely goes outside and just smokes weed and cracks beers from sun up til sundown, I'd have Jeff Bezos washing my dishes.

If they're more stable, they tend to still get uber wasted when out drinking but aren't necessarily alcoholics.


I have a pisces friend who is a super stoner but has her masters.

Lol there a lot of people who smoke every day who make 6 figures ( not my friend though).

She's not in STEM and is a woman.

I personally don't really like thc/ cannabis.

But CBD has been super beneficial for my chronic.

psilocybin is great though. * NO abuse* potential ( you develop rapid tolerance for on) l...annd good for those struggling with depression.
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