Pisces as the abuser

Hello Pisces,
I have a question about you and your sign. To maybe help me understand this situation my close friend is in.

Long story short. Pisces woman, Gemini man. They started dating after years of online friendship. They met, and started dating right away. Pisces, very insecure, asked my gemini friend to cut all ties with me, because Pisces got jealous of me. Gemini didn't want to, so he texted me anyway, lied to her, but she found out and gave him an ultimatum. Therefor, gemini stopped talking to me for good, outta love for her.
3 months later, Pisces for pregnant. She lied about going on the pill. Gemini said that she did it to make sure he would stay with him. Sad situation.
She gave birth, got pregnant again, same situation. Lied about protection. Pretended to be allergic to condoms.
Right before giving birth, my gemini friend, felt trapped and unhappy. He cheated on her. Kissed another girl one night.
Pisces kicked him out, and they've been separated since, except for a few times he saw his second kid. Pisces met another man. They're happy, plan to buy a house together.
But Pisces is controlling what my friend does.
Gem started talking to me the next week he got seperated from Pisces. He explained everything. Told me it wasn't his decision.
Gem and I got closer now. Acting like we are dating except its not official.
Mostly because Pisces said: "if I learn you date her (me) I'm not letting you see the kids again."
So we have to hide.
I know gem was happy with her, except for the controlling stuff.

But here are my questions:

What would make a Pisces be controlling like she is? Like she's allowed to move on but won't let her ex boyfriend do the same.

Gem wants her back. And Pisces never said yes or no to him.
Does this mean Gem got a chance?

I know Pisces are emotional, but what would push a girl to act like she did with Gem?

The whole is a bunch of bullshit.

first, it's gossip ..

second, the Gem wants to be witht he Pisces lady .. so this lady is just jealous, which is leading her to call out all Pisces, when in reality, the Pisces isn't like this at all towards the Gem if the Gem still loves her and wants her.


What a cunt

@Anna..... this thread does have a catchy title but has nothing to do with an abusive Pisces (such a let down. 😢 )

Let's be honest for a moment. Especially since you are taking time out of "your" busy schedule to make
this thread concerning a dear "friend" .....wait..... well now he might be "more than a friend ....if we can get rid of this Pisces! !!"
Hmmmmm....

Ask yourself this because this is the most important question. Why would you want to maintain a friendship with someone
who is "being controlled by someone else, to the point that he cut ties with you because of her".

How long are you going to hold on to this guy, hoping and waiting for the day he sees you as more than just
a friend and you two are "together forever "....—

You love this guy. Its so obvious. Why else would you be patiently still available after all this time after he cut
you off... he has made 2 kids with this "abusive " Pisces and is looking to make more if she gives him another
chance. Why torture yourself like this? Why not move on because he is not that good of a "friend "?
Find yourself a man who is available and willing to date you minus the drama!

Focus more on you! Love can be a very beautiful thing when given to the right person. Give your love and commitment to someone who will cherish, respect, and appreciate it!

He is not a good friend. I'm sorry. You are giving the Pisces too much credit. She's not as powerful as you seem to think she is. Its the Gemini that is to blame here.

So start a new thread called "Hopelessly in love with a Gemini and need to let him go!"

I wish you the best....and good luck

@ 3dimes: I hate to admit it but I think this is one of the nicest thing I've ever hear you say/do.
Beat you to the punch, didn't I? 🙂

^^^ *heard

Lol@ silversurfer...... hmmmm.... well that's only cause u don't "know" me that well but no worries....

Stay Tune!

Same Bat time
Same Bat channel! !!!

More to come!
🙂

Posted by EusiveSoulll
domz serious?!?!

This must be a joke on your part. Based on the OP and responses given, could you PLEASE be so kind and elaborate further on why exactly do you believe pisces in question is being victimized when in reality, as P-angel was correct to state that the post is based on pure hear first and foremost.

Neither of the parties affected are present at this time to present their case, and OP is going by either what she was told ( which may very well be a damn lie ) and/or her very limited observation influenced by her own *perception*... very subjective no?!

I understand that Gems ( not all but many ) have a tendency to twist facts as is it suits them the best (manipulation of the finest kind), but seriously, if you have not noticed, one of the previous posters just happens to be a Cap who offered her own unbiased opinion, which, very much carries the tone similar to the ones that followed.

Honest.... read the post with the understanding of the situation *smh*

+1

Posted by domz
The advice here is an absolute joke. I didn't knoe pieces would go to such lengths to victimize there brotherhood. Disgusting advice here.

The gem was manipulated into having children with a control freak. This, forcing people into such scenes against their will is abusive and deceptive behavior. Some of you need to get over yourselves. Wow.

P angle is a retard. End of discusion on that one.

The "entertainment value of this comment is through the roof!".....

Thanks... I needed a good laugh cause I'm bogged down with work tonight 😢

Posted by P-Angel
The whole is a bunch of bullshit.

first, it's gossip ..

second, the Gem wants to be witht he Pisces lady .. so this lady is just jealous, which is leading her to call out all Pisces, when in reality, the Pisces isn't like this at all towards the Gem if the Gem still loves her and wants her.


What a cunt

Wtf—? P-devil, why would u call her the c word? ......smh...... they may need to up the dosage level for your
Prozac. Maybe 1000 mg. I'd check with your psychiatrist in the morning....

You're actually a nice lady when properly medicated.
🙂

This has nothing to do with Pisces or Gemini.
This has to do with ridiculous human beings that can't act like adults. Period.

Also, just as an aside (not an attack on him as a gemini, but more as an idiot). If this guy was so ill-fated by the first child.... why continue to have sex with this chick, period? Oh... that's right, because he's not very adult, nor is the woman using her kids as a point of leverage. Nor is the woman that wants to involve herself in all this drama.

Maybe they all just need to try harder... hahahaha

The OP AND the Gem guy BOTH have free will. I find it funny how powerless you seem to think everyone is against Pisces.

I can find commonalities, but only at a certain level of operating with some intelligence. Outside of that, I refuse to even apply such mundanity as astrology when common sense is lacking.

Posted by domz
But whatever, I think I've lost a few IQ reading the retarded responses in this thread.

Most of which were yours.

I'm not trying to be mean, I've never had a problem with you. But you seem to just want to argue. And in attacking Pisces for defending their own, you are justifying retardeness from the Gemini's side. So.... you're doing the same thing. Meh. I'm outta here.

1- Thank everyone for taking the time to answer me and give me your opinions.

2- Moving on? No. Just so Gem get stuck with her and she goes back to her old ways?
Like Domz said. Abuse is abuse.
Gem needs me.
And I plan on being there for him for as long as he needs me. That's what friends are for.
Yes I love him. So what? And he loves me too. I know Gem enough to know that he loves her ex still because of the love he received. It made him feel good and appreciated. But as a caring person, it's my job to show him he can be loved without being forced into a life he doesn't want.

3- My ex of 6 years is a Pisces. And he was a control freak. Acting like a kid if he didn't get what he wanted.
My grandmother was a Pisces. She bossed my grandfather around all his life.
My best friend in high school, her favorite sentence was: "When I want something, I get it. No matter what"
I know other Pisces who always did everything they could to get what they want, regardless of hurting others or not.
Manipulating is something I know the Pisces I talked to do.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone here by asking about Pisces. I didn't mean to.
Just wanted some insight about the whys.

Dear Lawd...... what has happened to this thread—


Deezie and E, don't you dare say that I go on a mad rampage like Domz.... (he is very passionate about his
beliefs like myself but I do give "rational facts" when debating .... at least I try to....ha!

Domz, its good and bad in all signs. No one is dissing all Geminis. The guy just happened to be one. My
brother is a Gemini and I have a lot of close friends that are Gemini, plus I have a Gemini moon!!!
So why would I diss Geminis—?....

Ok Domz, this is why I don't joke about family and kids. Kids are innocent and are at the mercy of whoever their parents are.
I understand your pain. Kids don't have a voice or a choice most of the time. They are helpless.

This thread is not about kids. Well not directly. Its about 3 grown adults who each have control of their life.
This thread is all about choices. You never had a choice being a kid. I understand that. I'm glad you are away
from that poor excuse of a mother who is also a poor excuse for a Pisces.

The truth is, this guy in this thread knew that the op liked him more than a friend but he picked the Pisces over the op. He made not one
but 2 kids with a so called "abusive " woman that has someone else now ( if she was truly abusive...he wouldn't want her back... ) and he still wants to be with but while he is waiting
on the abusive Pisces to take him back, he is taking advantage of the op's love for him and is sexing her up and now back talking to her so he doesn't have to be alone while he waits....

Her love for him wont allow her to see the "truth". She would rather "believe " that its the Pisces that is keeping him from her. If he truly valued their friendship, he would not have started using her for sex and convenience with no commitment or obligation.

It is what it is.... sorry.

I get what you're saying 3dimes. Gem didn't pick Pisces over me yet. Because right now, she doesn't want him back. She's got another man and things are going well with him. BUT, she's jealous of who Gem is seeing.
That's control. And because she's serious about going to court and mess things up if Gem is happy with another woman. Again, that's control.
If Pisces wasn't controlling or manipulative, she would be "Ok, it's over. I'm happy. He deserve to be happy too" and let him go. Not giving him hope by acting jealous as if she still had feelings for him. Making believe Gem that there is something left.

Yes, Pisces is at fault. For the reason I just said. She is threatening to mess things up. Why not be mature about this and understand that Gem can be happy like she is with a new person.
Because its abusive.

As for Gem lying.
I know he's telling the truth.
I trust this Gem with my life. They maybe two faces but they're not liars. At least not to me.

Domz, you asked for a Pisces to provide you the contradictions, so here they are:

1. You say, "the gem was manipulated into having children with a control freak," in your first post, but later say that "that act of lying about protection, for a second time, is painstakingly obvious. He shouldn't have had sex with her and not pull out." Then later, you say: "Forcing someone into parenthood, against their will, by imposing a child on him, is deceptive and counts as abuse." This blatantly reads as though you're saying she manipulated him against his free will, but if he had the "free will" to pull out, how is it her fault that he didn't? Sure she lied, but if he didn't think to bring condoms for back up in the first place (the pill isn't a 100% preventive,) then that is his fault as well. Then she, if sticking to the story, would have told him then that she was allergic to latex (they make latex-free condoms for this reason,) and he could've replied with his own "free will" that they should hold off until they could get some latex-free condoms. If he chose to skip this step because he chose to trust her, that would be his own fault too. He had "free will," he chose not to use it.

2. You say this: "Wasn't defending my "kind" at all, in fact, I don't even fit in with them, and if you could read, given your double digit IQ, I mentioned that he made a mistake, and that it takes 2 in these relationships. Seriously? Stop defending your own kind for an obvious abuser." Yet you are defending your own kind. In your first post, and in this one: "If I learn you date her (me) I'm not letting you see the kids again.""Do I really need to go on?" You are placing all blame on her. Where there is a will there is a way, if he really wanted to keep contact with his kids while simultaneously seeing the OP he could have found a way to do so. He's obviously a smart guy, he made you and the OP believe he's the victim in all of this. Furthermore, you say that you "aren't defending him""because you don't fit in with Gemini's anyway," yet you continuously are defending him "it was all her fault" "she manipulated him against his free-will" "she's an abuser" blah blah blah.

3. You say: "She is also effected in their relationship, making her, one of the parties present. If someone was raped, do you need the rapist present, or are you able to tell from numerous criteria, symptoms, psychological assessments, etc., that the person might have actually been raped?" To answer your qu

@daydreamer35 ..... wow.

No way you are 17 and isn't it last your bedtime young lady—?? Lmao....smh.....
Hmmmm.... with the way some adults are....you probably have to be the "adult" in the home and take
care of your parent(s) ......hopefully that isn't the case....

Domz, I understand the points you are saying. Trust me, I'm a man so I understand what you are saying.
However, what I know is that when you are a man, its foolish and pointless to blame a woman if she
gets pregnant after you have sex with them. That's what "boys" do. Men step up to the plate and take
responsibility for their actions. You will learn this lesson in life.

Anna is in love and being in love she can't see the "big picture ". Most women tend to be selfish
when dealing with their kids and another woman.... nothing new here.

Most women in all signs do this. Just a fact. I know Anna loves him because why would
she willingly put herself into such a bad situation. You are right. He has not left you "YET".
If her new guy doesn't pan out..... she is going to come to get "daddy" back.

And in your own words..... She "controls " his every move so once she snaps her Pisces fingers,
he is going to come running home..... She controls him remember? —

Oh now that he is with you.... she can't control him anymore ....is that it? Hmmmmm.... I see....

Sadly, I been as naive as you are right now.... I hope it turns out better for you cause you seem
like a kind and loving young lady with good intentions.....

The road to Hell was paved with good intentions also..... P-devil had "good intentions when
joined dxp 13 years ago

Lol Domz..... you have a lot of growing up to do.....

No worries .... you think exactly like a lot of guys think at that age.... you are only 22.

This what I mean by choices. Why a 29+ year old woman would date some that young for anything
other than sex is beyond me. LOL.

I guess the same can be said about men doing the same thing......or can it......ha!

Trust me Domz.... you wont feel the same way when you get 35.
I like your passion though! Even if it is misplaced now....once focused properly ...
You will make a fine man.
🙂

Truth be told, I couldn't understand why a Pisces would act like this..
But then I remember my grandma who was a Pisces too. She controlled my grandfather, lied to everyone, acted innocent when yo confronted her, lied some more and as you caught her in the lie, get a tantrum. The lying was so twisted sometimes that you wonder if she got a kick from it.

Around strangers she would be the perfect granny, helpful/kind/nice/.. but when it was just us.. the real one came out to play. So yes, I can somewhat relate to the idea of this Pisces woman twisting & bending everything to her will. But in all fairness there are two sides to this story. The guy can't be that blind or spineless + no matter how ugly she acted.. he had his role in it all. There's always a moment where you can decide what you want to do. He clearly chose wrong over & over, but to use that as an excuse to dump all the blame on the woman.. Not in my book.

There's a lot more to it than you can tell us or are telling us.
Too bad it has spiked such strange reactions on the board.

Posted by ellessque
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/gemini/how-do-you-deal-with-blunt-people-3483571/
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/gemini/difference-in-sex-partners-3491707/
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/gemini/is-this-true-3465864/?p=2<BR>
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/gemini/someone-having-control-over-you-3494273/
http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=3481000<BR>
you are all being played by this capricorn until she gets the answers she wants.

she's obsessed with this man and will go to any lengths to possess him.

one thread she says she wasn't with him when he was with the pisces and then another thread she said he called her recently because the pisces threw him out.

the guy is obviously playing both women. however, he justifies the snatch he gets with the cap because he's being "honest" with her by telling her he's in love with the pisces despite her antics.

but don't mind me, you all keep making up stories about the pisces and gemini....of which can't defend themselves and we are at the mercy of whatever this pscyho wants to share with us.

Bingo, I knew she was holding a lot back.
Thanks for pointing it out.