Gather around kids, let me tell you how Plutonian relationships feel.

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I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....
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Posted by deckedandecker

I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....


You disgust me with your delusion and stupidity. That woman deserves anything but you. Get the fuck off your high horse.
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I'm with @Luxepurr

How old are you? It's funny how you can contradict yourself in one post..

Lazily rephrased:

"When i'm my higher self, composed, aware, I chose to ramp up my dating resume and dated dozens of girls and went to partying and drinking.

I fear that whatever relationship I have that doesn't have that intensity to it..I'm going to be bored of it."

That's some super higher self stuff right there. 🤣


Lmao
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Listen you have to learn how to keep them neutral. That's honestly the only way. If you are the type of person that an ex or multiple exs keep coming back to that is honestly more of a you problem. It's not easy trust me. Trying to rekindle an old relationship feels amazing. It's like the same thing it use to be at the very start over and over. Only problem is it will end the same way over and over just as well. I forced myself to understand that if a relationship ends in the first place, that means it will always end no matter how hard you try. It ended for a reason, and that reason is proof you both are incompatible on a deep level. I know it's hard to stay away, especially when a person tries to force their way back into ones life. At least for me. I try to stay vigilant, and try to be kind while also forcing myself to see the reality and outcome of things. Once you do this you will be able to manage past relationships better. Because a person like you described likely isn't leaving easily, but also isn't worth your time, yet grows stronger the more you ignore them. Best of luck with everything.
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Are Plutonian relationships really that bad?

No, especially if either person in the relationship has major natural Plutonian energy.

I currently like a guy and our synastry is filled to the rim of pluto contacts. I would say he has strong Plutonian energy. Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, pluto trine moon and mars. Scorpio mercury.

I on the other hand am not so Plutonian, so Im a bit worried. Mostly worried about the moon square pluto double whammy and mars square pluto. I hear awful things about it like a relationship that is doomed from the get go
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Well I wouldn't worry so much unless you guys actually start a relationship. I'm pretty Pluto heavy and I have Mars-Pluto square with my Gem but we fit together best. Try to let things happen as they will. 🙂
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Posted by Aquamarine_

Are Plutonian relationships really that bad?

No, especially if either person in the relationship has major natural Plutonian energy.

I currently like a guy and our synastry is filled to the rim of pluto contacts. I would say he has strong Plutonian energy. Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, pluto trine moon and mars. Scorpio mercury.

I on the other hand am not so Plutonian, so Im a bit worried. Mostly worried about the moon square pluto double whammy and mars square pluto. I hear awful things about it like a relationship that is doomed from the get go

Well I wouldn't worry so much unless you guys actually start a relationship. I'm pretty Pluto heavy and I have Mars-Pluto square with my Gem but we fit together best. Try to let things happen as they will. 🙂

Thank you that makes me feel a bit more relieved lol

Most interpretations Ive read of mars square pluto say it indicates violence or abuse. Do you feel any negative effects of it? And if you don’t me asking have you guys been together for a while? I love hearing real life experiences of synastry aspects
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I'm considered plutonian and have mars square pluto in my natal chart. Most of my relationships have had mars square pluto in synastry. Learn from your mistakes is my best advice and always think before you speak. Plus it gets much easier with age and shouldn't be a problem if you understand yourself first
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Posted by Aquamarine_

Are Plutonian relationships really that bad?

No, especially if either person in the relationship has major natural Plutonian energy.

I currently like a guy and our synastry is filled to the rim of pluto contacts. I would say he has strong Plutonian energy. Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, pluto trine moon and mars. Scorpio mercury.

I on the other hand am not so Plutonian, so Im a bit worried. Mostly worried about the moon square pluto double whammy and mars square pluto. I hear awful things about it like a relationship that is doomed from the get go

Well I wouldn't worry so much unless you guys actually start a relationship. I'm pretty Pluto heavy and I have Mars-Pluto square with my Gem but we fit together best. Try to let things happen as they will. 🙂

Thank you that makes me feel a bit more relieved lol

Most interpretations Ive read of mars square pluto say it indicates violence or abuse. Do you feel any negative effects of it? And if you don’t me asking have you guys been together for a while? I love hearing real life experiences of synastry aspects
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Well I can tell you that emotionally, it's very heavy so I would keep that in mind. I don't mind that myself because I'm a very emotionally intense person so it works for me, and as for the Gem he doesn't mind it either. But when we get into fights it does get more heated than arguments I've experienced typically get and it gets to my anxiety pretty badly (and his anxiety too). He has natal Mars trine Pluto. We've only been together for eight months.
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I have been in a Plutonian relationships for 26 years, LOL, and it's quite intense. It was best at the beginning and now. I am Pluto and always Pluto in all romantic relationships.

Here are our major Pluto aspects (this as not all of them). What makes it so intense is my husband also has these two aspects in this natal chart.

Venus Conjunction Pluto Orb 0°

Moon Square Pluto Orb 0°

This one is actually quite financially destructive in a "mean no harm" sweet way.

Pluto Opposite Sun Orb 5°13'

What's more he has Venus in Libra exalted in the 7th House and Pluto in the 7th...that's intense... He also has Mars in Aries/Taurus cusp in the first as an Aries Ascendent with me being an Aries.

So, this as quite Plutonian. DXP is too virgin for these tales, lol. What the OP describes is applesauce.

While in the thick of, it sometimes it felt like a Lifetime movie to me. But, when describing to others, they say awwww, how romantic.
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I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....

" So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind."

^^Meaning you ran🏃 and ran HARD instead of confronting the issues she brought to the surface.

Yes I know about those kind of relationships firsthand.

That is what Pluto can do. Brings aspects of ones self to the surface forcefully by super charging it and making you. Aware of it and having to deal with it. Literally one way or another, the good, bad, and ugly 😂

And in return you get raw intensity and passionate connection. It's one hell of a ride.
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I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....

" So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind."

^^Meaning you ran🏃 and ran HARD instead of confronting the issues she brought to the surface.

Yes I know about those kind of relationships firsthand.

That is what Pluto can do. Brings aspects of ones self to the surface forcefully by super charging it and making you. Aware of it and having to deal with it. Literally one way or another, the good, bad, and ugly 😂

And in return you get raw intensity and passionate connection. It's one hell of a ride.

I feel that the personal planets in aspects to Pluto in synastry, such as the sun, shine the light on Pluto.
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Yes the sun can bring awareness of Pluto as well as pluto can force awareness of the sun in a person. Everything is a 2-way street.

Pluto pushes. Whether in the end it turns out to be beneficial is really dependent on the people's mentality. Which is why I really dislike people giving Pluto shit by default.
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Ha I have plenty of my own Plutonian energy (including tight Mars-Pluto square) to offset it with others (generationally speaking my Mars squares Pluto tightly with everyone around my age and those +- few years). Anyway the secret is to cut them off abruptly and entirely after you’ve said your last words and stick to it unless you’re too weak and can’t control your own actions. That goes for any kind of relationships that’s left an impression on someone... you can’t ever move on if you let yourself constantly be dragged back down a hole of the past. The root issue is yourself. I prescribe inner work, cleansing and healing before jumping to any new venture.
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I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....

" So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind."

^^Meaning you ran🏃 and ran HARD instead of confronting the issues she brought to the surface.

Yes I know about those kind of relationships firsthand.

That is what Pluto can do. Brings aspects of ones self to the surface forcefully by super charging it and making you. Aware of it and having to deal with it. Literally one way or another, the good, bad, and ugly 😂

And in return you get raw intensity and passionate connection. It's one hell of a ride.

I feel that the personal planets in aspects to Pluto in synastry, such as the sun, shine the light on Pluto.

Yes the sun can bring awareness of Pluto as well as pluto can force awareness of the sun in a person. Everything is a 2-way street.

Pluto pushes. Whether in the end it turns out to be beneficial is really dependent on the people's mentality. Which is why I really dislike people giving Pluto shit by default.

Pluto is yin. Super yin. While the sun may shine light, Pluto pulls the Sun in.
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You can learn a lot by experiencing plutonic connections.

If something is cracked Pluto will break it.

You can turn put it nack together.

If you are ignoring or ignorate of something, Pluto will bring it to light.

Then you can change it.

If you desire something, Pluto will dial it up a notch.

Then you will have to face it.

As I see this and many things, It's all about cause and effect. Something deeper and more true then simply the "good" and "bad" labels.
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Lol is something in the air? Cap is making another try 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I need to stop being nice to him. That doesn’t mean I want to get back together.

Just let go already!

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I saw that! He’s been doing this for 3 years.. of & on & off & on after we broke up. I love you, we belong to together, I want to marry you blah blah blah. I gave it a couple of chances in 2019. He still comes back even though I’ve told him I’m over it. Because it’s NOT about what I want. Only he matters...

Her situation sounds oh so familiar and it’s total bullshit. Thank god I don’t have a kid with him. It sucks when you can’t be nice to a person you care about & used to love but just can’t be with.
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I have been in a Plutonian relationships for 26 years, LOL, and it's quite intense. It was best at the beginning and now. I am Pluto and always Pluto in all romantic relationships.

Here are our major Pluto aspects (this as not all of them). What makes it so intense is my husband also has these two aspects in this natal chart.

Venus Conjunction Pluto Orb 0°

Moon Square Pluto Orb 0°

This one is actually quite financially destructive in a "mean no harm" sweet way.

Pluto Opposite Sun Orb 5°13'

What's more he has Venus in Libra exalted in the 7th House and Pluto in the 7th...that's intense... He also has Mars in Aries/Taurus cusp in the first as an Aries Ascendent with me being an Aries.

So, this as quite Plutonian. DXP is too virgin for these tales, lol. What the OP describes is applesauce.

While in the thick of, it sometimes it felt like a Lifetime movie to me. But, when describing to others, they say awwww, how romantic.

Opps, the description I gave for our Pluto opposition Sun is actually for Sun Opposition Venus synastry.

We have Sun Opposition Venus synastry which can be financially destructive in a "mean no harm" sweet way as you have difficulty telling each other "no" to anything.

As far as Pluto Opposite Sun I always tell people how the Sun was crowning his head the first time we met...which was the 4th of July... in my backyard... Jammed packed with imagery right there...and the intense attraction had us both so speechless my Scorpio sister spoke for me and my husband's friend spoke for him.
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I mean come on kids. For those of you who have never experienced one, I hope you never do and please be grateful you never do.

I am experiencing one right now and quite frankly, I feel powerless on so many occasions. It is not really that Plutonian but the fact that we have a pluto-mars double whammy on tight angles, whew buddy. It's like even when I am my higher self, aware, and composed; she gets under my skin like none other. Even when I know to control my emotions, I just cannot. It's like I hate her guts but at the same time, hate the idea of seeing other guys get her attention unless they are very important men (like her boss or something).

I have thought of her almost every day and god, it freaking sucks, it sucks bad.

So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind.

Momentarily kids, momentarily.....

Then like a hand from h3ll or like a virus, she was back. Maybe she did something, intentionally or not, to get my attention but she surely got under my skin with it. She was back and she was back for good kiddos. And that is the worst part.

Right when you think it is over, that they are out of your head and out of your thoughts, they come back.

Did ya forget about me ole chap? Did ya really think you'd move on old boy? Did ya really think you'd be over it?

Like a Satanic figure with wings and a long tongue, they smile that sinister smile in your head laughing at your attempts to rid their possession of you.

You are helpless, powerless, and then it gets even worse.

The intensity? That feeling you got? Now you are in fear. You fear that whatever relationship you have that doesn't have that intensity to it? You are going to be bored of it.

Drug addictions are healthier than this.....

" So I did everything in my power. I ramped up my dating app profile and got matches out the wazoo. I went on dates with many many different women in the past month. I reconnected with old friends and started my life style of drinking and partying. I was done with her, so done with her, she was momentarily out of my mind."

^^Meaning you ran🏃 and ran HARD instead of confronting the issues she brought to the surface.

Yes I know about those kind of relationships firsthand.

That is what Pluto can do. Brings aspects of ones self to the surface forcefully by super charging it and making you. Aware of it and having to deal with it. Literally one way or another, the good, bad, and ugly 😂

And in return you get raw intensity and passionate connection. It's one hell of a ride.

I feel that the personal planets in aspects to Pluto in synastry, such as the sun, shine the light on Pluto.

Yes the sun can bring awareness of Pluto as well as pluto can force awareness of the sun in a person. Everything is a 2-way street.

Pluto pushes. Whether in the end it turns out to be beneficial is really dependent on the people's mentality. Which is why I really dislike people giving Pluto shit by default.

Pluto is yin. Super yin. While the sun may shine light, Pluto pulls the Sun in.

You can learn a lot by experiencing plutonic connections.

If something is cracked Pluto will break it.

You can turn put it nack together.

If you are ignoring or ignorate of something, Pluto will bring it to light.

Then you can change it.

If you desire something, Pluto will dial it up a notch.

Then you will have to face it.

As I see this and many things, It's all about cause and effect. Something deeper and more true then simply the "good" and "bad" labels.

I experience them on the daily with the Pluto in Libra generation because majority of my personal planets are in cardinal signs. This forms hard aspects. Some are better than the others.
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Ya I get it. I run into issues with that generation from time to time too.

You know sometimes people need a bit of contrast to notice something. There is a quote I like that explains it best.

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.”

-Confucius

I'm guilty of the last one more then I care to admit. I recognize a lot comes naturally to me and I take it for granted while other things...fucking clueless😏.

I firmly believe that quotes mechanics also applies with people. Connections are always a 2 way street though. So things can be interesting on the senders side too at least a bit entertaining🙃