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The men settling to a commitment when they just want ass ....
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LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
In this age of dating apps like Tinder or what the fuck ever, a guy looking for a fuck isn't going to expend much time or energy on a chick who isn't giving up sex easily when he can just find another chick who is DTF.
If you as a woman are getting scammed then it's time you stop externalizing your problems and take a hard look at yourself
If you as a woman are getting scammed then it's time you stop externalizing your problems and take a hard look at yourself
Posted by QuantumToo much accountability for your own actions man.
In this age of dating apps like Tinder or what the fuck ever, a guy looking for a fuck isn't going to expend much time or energy on a chick who isn't giving up sex easily when he can just find another chick who is DTF.
If you as a woman are getting scammed then it's time you stop externalizing your problems and take a hard look at yourself
These days you have to scapegoat and deflect responsibility for your own choices till you make a career out of being at "toxic" relationships.
Posted by ElleDuMondeEntitled "nice guys" are still pretty easy to spot. Again though it's going to be obvious he's running game.Posted by QuantumThat doesn't always work....especially with the "entitled nice guy".
LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
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Yup, men know, theyre not fooling anyone...if BS74 can write that article about sex and attachments, then they do understand. Some men just don't care, they're game players, and gonna get theirs.
It's not just the womans fault imo.
Sure she's responsible for herself and her own welfare, but there are men who paint themselves a pretty picture.
That's why Caps are guarded and aren't easily impressed by inflated tales from men.
So if one decides to enter into a FWB, try to understand that love and sex are 2 different things. Gotta know and be ready to walk away when the contract is over. I, personally couldn't do it, but it's alive and well in society.
It's not just the womans fault imo.
Sure she's responsible for herself and her own welfare, but there are men who paint themselves a pretty picture.
That's why Caps are guarded and aren't easily impressed by inflated tales from men.
So if one decides to enter into a FWB, try to understand that love and sex are 2 different things. Gotta know and be ready to walk away when the contract is over. I, personally couldn't do it, but it's alive and well in society.
Posted by ElleDuMondeYou and I both have been here long enough that we know the never-ending string of "You'll know if he is into you" advice given out on just the Scorpio board alone.Posted by Quantumthen there really is no point then.
In this age of dating apps like Tinder or what the fuck ever, a guy looking for a fuck isn't going to expend much time or energy on a chick who isn't giving up sex easily when he can just find another chick who is DTF.
If you as a woman are getting scammed then it's time you stop externalizing your problems and take a hard look at yourself
with all the easy access....why bother?
stay celibate. stay strong.
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The same generally holds true for all men.
You will KNOW when he's in it for more than just sex.
But if you're hopping on his dick 45 minutes into your first date at Ralleys, you only have yourself to blame.
Posted by QuantumI have male friends that are players. They're very convincing to these women that they have good intentions. Just assholes. I secretly hope a woman would break their asshole hearts, amd teach them a cold, hard, fuked up lesson.
LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
Posted by GreenteaAll women will eventually fall prey to a player at one point or another. It's how they recover from it that matters.Posted by QuantumI have male friends that are players. They're very convincing to these women that they have good intentions. Just assholes. I secretly hope a woman would break their asshole hearts, amd teach them a cold, hard, fuked up lesson.
LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
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Some realize a man does not define their self worth.
Others go the opposite direction and become more desperate for the approval of a man.
Either way skeevy dudes will always exist.
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You will KNOW when he's in it for more than just sex.
But if you're hopping on his dick 45 minutes into your first date at Ralleys, you only have yourself to blame.
Not everyone is plugged in, it seems .... a lot women who come here are in complete darkness, until someone turns the light on for them, and you have to wonder .... how many people are there really in the world, who walk around with their thumbs up their ass.
I fucked on first date with my husband.
I think it's two things coupled together ..... laziness/tight snatch
I'm not saying women are 100% at fault. There are lying clowns out there.
But let's be real...If it keeps happening to you it's not the fault of men nor are you blameless.
People are just so eager to fill the void within their soul with approval of someone else they drop their pants almost automatically.
But let's be real...If it keeps happening to you it's not the fault of men nor are you blameless.
People are just so eager to fill the void within their soul with approval of someone else they drop their pants almost automatically.
Posted by QuantumDXP has to have a "fall guy". Forget the fact that they wanted dick and got it. Lord forbid a woman be held accountable for her part in sex. It takes 2 to tango
LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
Somebody has to stop this cycle, and the woman just isn't strong enough ... so, I propose that men be the ones to start the shift.
Stop faking commitment to women, just to get some kitty ... and then women will begin to grow some more morals, and start to use other qualities to snatch the man she wants.
Posted by ElleDuMondeBut in that case you don't complain about men using you, right? You know the situation and you're not fooling yourself or living in a fantasy land.Posted by Quantumbut some are not......
I'm not saying women are 100% at fault. There are lying clowns out there.
But let's be real...If it keeps happening to you it's not the fault of men nor are you blameless.
People are just so eager to fill the void within their soul with approval of someone else they drop their pants almost automatically.
and 5 minutes....45 minutes....3 dates......3 months....a year...until marriage....
none of that should matter.
men don't want to be put in one collective cumbucket.
women don't want to be either.
If I sleep with a man it's because I enjoy his company. The only void he is filling is the one between my legs at that moment.
To assume otherwise is insulting.
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Posted by AriesLoveWell thanks Ghandi for your insight... I never thought a woman would be looking for love, trust, committment, etc in a real relationship. We're not talking about that though, we're talking about FWB and sex only.Posted by ElleDuMondeOffering does not equate to monetary value.Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
Each person contributes to a relationship. I would hope before you enter a relationship with someone you would see what they have to offer you.
Whether it be love, understanding, support, loyalty commitment, trust, excitement, faithfulness, and so on.
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Posted by QuantumWORD.
In this age of dating apps like Tinder or what the fuck ever, a guy looking for a fuck isn't going to expend much time or energy on a chick who isn't giving up sex easily when he can just find another chick who is DTF.
If you as a woman are getting scammed then it's time you stop externalizing your problems and take a hard look at yourself
There's nothing to say you can't have a relationship based on sex if it's mutual.
You just aren't justified in crying poor me when you want more and the other person doesn't.
You just aren't justified in crying poor me when you want more and the other person doesn't.
Posted by QuantumI totally tripped vag first. I like the "new dick" feel. Even if it isn't fresh off the assembly line, and it's been refurbished, you can still get one with a 3 month guarantee. It's had it's oil changed, been detailed, I don't understand why more women don't trip more often.
LOL at the poor innocent women falling victim to men.
Here's an idea:
Get to know the guy well before tripping and falling Vag-first onto his dick. You'll figure out soon enough if he just wants ass. Well...you should anyways.
Posted by AriesLoveNo, that wasn't yesterday either, it was a FWB thread, yet you were only talking about yourself like always.Posted by GreenteaNo we aren't that was yesterdayPosted by AriesLoveWell thanks Ghandi for your insight... I never thought a woman would be looking for love, trust, committment, etc in a real relationship. We're not talking about that though, we're talking about FWB and sex only.Posted by ElleDuMondeOffering does not equate to monetary value.Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
Each person contributes to a relationship. I would hope before you enter a relationship with someone you would see what they have to offer you.
Whether it be love, understanding, support, loyalty commitment, trust, excitement, faithfulness, and so on.
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Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
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Posted by ElleDuMondeThe fault of your Libra bits it is. Clouding your judgment they are. Dickmatized must you have been.Posted by QuantumNo, I don't....because it's not men using me, in that scenario.Posted by ElleDuMondeBut in that case you don't complain about men using you, right? You know the situation and you're not fooling yourself or living in a fantasy land.Posted by Quantumbut some are not......
I'm not saying women are 100% at fault. There are lying clowns out there.
But let's be real...If it keeps happening to you it's not the fault of men nor are you blameless.
People are just so eager to fill the void within their soul with approval of someone else they drop their pants almost automatically.
and 5 minutes....45 minutes....3 dates......3 months....a year...until marriage....
none of that should matter.
men don't want to be put in one collective cumbucket.
women don't want to be either.
If I sleep with a man it's because I enjoy his company. The only void he is filling is the one between my legs at that moment.
To assume otherwise is insulting.
But if someone goes under the disguise of 'relationship' just for shits and giggles....then yes...that *is* using me.
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Posted by ElleDuMondeMY SCOTCH!Posted by Quantum*tosses your mug on the floor*Posted by ElleDuMondeThe fault of your Libra bits it is. Clouding your judgment they are. Dickmatized must you have been.Posted by QuantumNo, I don't....because it's not men using me, in that scenario.Posted by ElleDuMondeBut in that case you don't complain about men using you, right? You know the situation and you're not fooling yourself or living in a fantasy land.Posted by Quantumbut some are not......
I'm not saying women are 100% at fault. There are lying clowns out there.
But let's be real...If it keeps happening to you it's not the fault of men nor are you blameless.
People are just so eager to fill the void within their soul with approval of someone else they drop their pants almost automatically.
and 5 minutes....45 minutes....3 dates......3 months....a year...until marriage....
none of that should matter.
men don't want to be put in one collective cumbucket.
women don't want to be either.
If I sleep with a man it's because I enjoy his company. The only void he is filling is the one between my legs at that moment.
To assume otherwise is insulting.
But if someone goes under the disguise of 'relationship' just for shits and giggles....then yes...that *is* using me.
FAIR IS FAIR. 😛
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😭
I ♥ P-Angel
Posted by ElleDuMondeI could be wrong but I thought you were one of the ladies saying they wouldn't date a man that didn't have his shit togetherPosted by Sssupeswhy not?Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
I can take care of myself.
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Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
Posted by AriesLoveAre you secretly in love with me? Can't blame you, I'm pretty freaking awesome. You comment on damn near everything I say on damn near every post.Posted by SssupesI wasn't referring to money when I said offer. I also can take of myself. But loyalty, respect, understanding, faithfulness, support but yes a man should be able to stand on his own 2 feet before we even meet. They don't have to be Givenchy shoes either.Posted by ElleDuMondeI could be wrong but I thought you were one of the ladies saying they wouldn't date a man that didn't have his shit togetherPosted by Sssupeswhy not?Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
I can take care of myself.
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In regards to my comment, it was for Elle. She's worth talking to
Posted by DamnataYou think being burned several times of a simpleton would make them second guess if dudes really are that "simple". But nope.
Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
Posted by geegeePosted by SssupesLOL she loves you broPosted by AriesLovePosted by SssupesI wasn't referring to money when I said offer. I also can take of myself. But loyalty, respect, understanding, faithfulness, support but yes a man should be able to stand on his own 2 feet before we even meet. They don't have to be Givenchy shoes either.Posted by ElleDuMondeI could be wrong but I thought you were one of the ladies saying they wouldn't date a man that didn't have his shit togetherPosted by Sssupeswhy not?Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
I can take care of myself.
In regards to my comment, it was for Elle. She's worth talking to
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Posted by ElleDuMondeHey! I said I COULD be wrong!Posted by SssupesSeems Neptune in the 1st creates alot of assumptions about me 😄Posted by ElleDuMondeI could be wrong but I thought you were one of the ladies saying they wouldn't date a man that didn't have his shit togetherPosted by Sssupeswhy not?Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
I can take care of myself.
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Posted by AriesLovePosted by SssupesPosted by AriesLoveIf Vain was my onlyPosted by SssupesAre you secretly in love with me? Can't blame you, I'm pretty freaking awesome. You comment on damn near everything I say on damn near every post.Posted by ElleDuMondeI wasn't referring to money when I said offer. I also can take of myself. But loyalty, respect, understanding, faithfulness, support but yes a man should be able to stand on his own 2 feet before we even meet. They don't have to be Givenchy shoes either.Posted by Sssupeswhy not?Posted by ElleDuMondeSo, if a guy was nice, respectful, handsome and treated you like a queen but was broke and couldn't even afford nice shoes and lived in a run down trailer house you'd date him?Posted by AriesLovewe will never be able to be on the same page at the same time.....you and I.Posted by ElleDuMondeWell if you say you love men then I guess you do.Posted by AriesLoveI am avoiding you.Posted by ElleDuMondeI thought you were avoiding Virgo moon today.Posted by AriesLoveOh look, it's pedestal pussy....she lives in the land of euphoric prince charmings.
I'm trying to figure out where OP is meeting these guys
I know every guy is a d1ck in your book.
No, I do not believe all men are dicks. I love men. I love everything about men. I just don't like to be taken for a ride. I value myself and my time and when someone else doesn't....I want to drop kick *them*...not all men....just him.....straight to hell.
Who has time for that?
Because we don't live in Euphoria with Prince Charmings so you better trust your women's intuition and take it slow and see what he is offering.
I NEVER look to a man for what he is 'offering'.
I can take care of myself.
In regards to my comment, it was for Elle. She's worth talking to
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How is asking a question vanity?
Posted by DamnataIndeed men are very cunning. And dishonest. And coniving.
Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
And while there's no guarantee of success, waiting a while and building trust and respect would solve a good deal of problems like what P is describing.
But we live in an age of instant gratification. And that makes it EVEN EASIER to spot the dishonest man. We've reduced ourselves collectively to attention spans shorter than goldfish and with cheap sex easily available through a smart phone, there's no reason for a man looking for sex to stick around if a woman wants to wait.
Posted by QuantumMen can play the long con too.Posted by DamnataIndeed men are very cunning. And dishonest. And coniving.
Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
And while there's no guarantee of success, waiting a while and building trust and respect would solve a good deal of problems like what P is describing.
But we live in an age of instant gratification. And that makes it EVEN EASIER to spot the dishonest man. We've reduced ourselves collectively to attention spans shorter than goldfish and with cheap sex easily available through a smart phone, there's no reason for a man looking for sex to stick around if a woman wants to wait.
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They all know about the 3 months rule many women employ so they will bang on the side and laugh at your waiting then bang you too and then scram.
It doesn't show investment. Nothing in the chase/pursuit shows character as far as chase/pursuit goes.
You'd have to create a dynamic that doesn't involve sex....and not as holding it back or giving it away. For it to not even exist within the dynamic...and that's utopia lalaland. Because sex comes into play even at a thought level....then the dynamic is contrived in dating and it will always be. We talk about enjoying someone's company while we play fantasies in our head...meanwhile our biology laughs at this whole pathethic dance.
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@Sssupes
You assumed my comment was meant for you. When actually I wanted to clarify the meaning behind it.
Then you profess all these great qualities about you that leads you to believe I want you.
But your right wrong word. I'll change it to Egocentric
Me? Egocentric? Nooooooo! You must have me confused with the 91 million other Leos out there
Posted by DamnataIf within a span of 3 months a person can't figure out they are essentially a back burner option, they might reconsider being in a relationship at all.Posted by QuantumMen can play the long con too.Posted by DamnataIndeed men are very cunning. And dishonest. And coniving.
Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
And while there's no guarantee of success, waiting a while and building trust and respect would solve a good deal of problems like what P is describing.
But we live in an age of instant gratification. And that makes it EVEN EASIER to spot the dishonest man. We've reduced ourselves collectively to attention spans shorter than goldfish and with cheap sex easily available through a smart phone, there's no reason for a man looking for sex to stick around if a woman wants to wait.
They all know about the 3 months rule many women employ so they will bang on the side and laugh at your waiting then bang you too and then scram.
It doesn't show investment. Nothing in the chase/pursuit shows character as far as chase/pursuit goes.
You'd have to create a dynamic that doesn't involve sex....and not as holding it back or giving it away. For it to not even exist within the dynamic...and that's utopia lalaland. Because sex comes into play even at a thought level....then the dynamic is contrived in dating and it will always be. We talk about enjoying someone's company while we play fantasies in our head...meanwhile our biology laughs at this whole pathethic dance.click to expand
Posted by QuantumThe end result mentality of "I'll get sex" "I'll get a relationship" makes any dating process not genuine by default.Posted by DamnataIf within a span of 3 months a person can't figure out they are essentially a back burner option, they might reconsider being in a relationship at all.Posted by QuantumMen can play the long con too.Posted by DamnataIndeed men are very cunning. And dishonest. And coniving.
Men are cunning too but this trait is more associated with women so you are less liable to apply it to a man.
I find this mindset of "men are simple and if you don't see it, you have only yourself to blame/aren't smart enough" dangerous.
And while there's no guarantee of success, waiting a while and building trust and respect would solve a good deal of problems like what P is describing.
But we live in an age of instant gratification. And that makes it EVEN EASIER to spot the dishonest man. We've reduced ourselves collectively to attention spans shorter than goldfish and with cheap sex easily available through a smart phone, there's no reason for a man looking for sex to stick around if a woman wants to wait.
They all know about the 3 months rule many women employ so they will bang on the side and laugh at your waiting then bang you too and then scram.
It doesn't show investment. Nothing in the chase/pursuit shows character as far as chase/pursuit goes.
You'd have to create a dynamic that doesn't involve sex....and not as holding it back or giving it away. For it to not even exist within the dynamic...and that's utopia lalaland. Because sex comes into play even at a thought level....then the dynamic is contrived in dating and it will always be. We talk about enjoying someone's company while we play fantasies in our head...meanwhile our biology laughs at this whole pathethic dance.
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We're all playing scripts when it comes down to it, there is no one person that is your focus and others that are back burners. There is one goal who is the focus, which means we are not really engaging people into it...we're pursuing the end result through people.
Might as well play the charade whichever way the dice rolls.
It's sad...only by reaching the end goal, after it's reached...we make a true assesment of value on people. Up until then we're sleepwalking, no matter what our intellect tells us. Maybe even after that. People pride themselves too much on figuring it all out. Thanks god we don't figure it all out...makes the big wheel keep on turning, proud Mary keep on burning, and we're rolling rolling rolling on the river.
Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
Posted by ElleDuMondeDamnit! I'll try again tomorrowPosted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
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Posted by AriesLoveMy recovery time is like 5 mins. I'm always good to goPosted by ElleDuMondeDon't crush his Ego....he'll never recover!Posted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
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Posted by AriesLoveOf course I have. My delicate ego gets busted regularly.Posted by SssupesPosted by AriesLoveMy recovery time is like 5 mins. I'm always good to goPosted by ElleDuMondeDon't crush his Ego....he'll never recover!Posted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
You've had plenty of practice to get to this point I'm sure.
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Posted by AriesLoveI'm always honest, you just can't see where I'm coming from because of your own egoPosted by SssupesAt least you're being honest todayPosted by AriesLoveOf course I have. My delicate ego gets busted regularly.Posted by SssupesPosted by AriesLoveMy recovery time is like 5 mins. I'm always good to goPosted by ElleDuMondeDon't crush his Ego....he'll never recover!Posted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
You've had plenty of practice to get to this point I'm sure.
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Posted by ElleDuMonde😉Posted by SssupesCOME ON...ARIES MOON DOES HAVE STAYING POWER SOMETIMES! 😛Posted by ElleDuMondeDamnit! I'll try again tomorrowPosted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
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Posted by AriesLovePosted by SssupesPosted by AriesLoveI'm always honest, you just can't see where I'm coming from because ofPosted by SssupesAt least you're being honest todayPosted by AriesLoveOf course I have. My delicate ego gets busted regularly.Posted by SssupesPosted by AriesLoveMy recovery time is like 5 mins. I'm always good to goPosted by ElleDuMondePosted by SssupesI'm taken at the moment 🙂Posted by ElleDuMondeYou are a saint and we should get married in Vegas next to an Elvis poster
@Sssupes
I will give you a less elusive answer 😄
Does anyone ever "really" got their shit together? ....and if they do...is it a guarantee? Everything can change on a dime...without notice. I have uranus in the 12th house....THAT is a guarantee that it will.
I'm dipped in pluto and have reinvented myself more than a half dozen times in this lifetime....and I'm probably not done yet. It's just the nature of my demons.
So, I would never expect someone to be anymore of 'having their shit together" than myself.
Does that mean they need to be exactly where I am at in life? No
However.....
I will not pay someone's bills
I will not pay someone's child support
I will not fund someone's dreams
I would not expect anything from someone that I wouldn't expect from myself...which I wouldn't expect anyone to do those that I just listed.
I will go dutch if we merge....share living expenses
I will support them in coparenting
I will be their muse on whichever whim they may have.....I tend to date pisces placements....and they have a lot of dreams that are just itching to come to fruition...I don't care if their goal is to knit beanies all day long....if they are passionate about it...I'm there.
So, no....my definition of "having your shit together" is different than most.
Loyalty
Qualty of Time
Understanding
Patience
Love
Acceptance
Harmless Banter
Tolerance (because sometimes I am an asshole)
A healthy sex life
^^^ Those are most important to me and I'm fully prepared to provide them as well.
You've had plenty of practice to get to this point I'm sure.
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I'm always nice
Posted by ElleDuMondeHaven't you figured out yet that 82% of women on dxp are victims? 100% are innocent and get fooled by men, except @DMV.
all these perfect women on dxp who never make a mistake judging character....who would have thought this place is really eden?
*eye roll*
Posted by ElleDuMondeNo one is perfect at judging character.
all these perfect women on dxp who never make a mistake judging character....who would have thought this place is really eden?
*eye roll*
That's why you take take the time to get to know someone before hopping in the sheets (if you're looking for more than just something casual).
It's not going to be 100% effective. Mistakes will still happen. But at least you've done your due diligence. At that point you can honestly say it was the other person, not you.
Posted by ElleDuMondeJust a bunch of made up characters on here for sure.
all these perfect women on dxp who never make a mistake judging character....who would have thought this place is really eden?
*eye roll*
Sounds to me they're projecting the kind of character they "wished" they had when in these scenarios.
I know I sound like an old fart, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Now get the fuck off my lawn.
Now get the fuck off my lawn.
I think it's absolutely reasonable to wait a little bit until you're comfortable. I know after a few bad relationships that's what I did. In fact I know the Virgo was surprised I DID wait to even suggest.
It sure didn't take 3 months though.
It sure didn't take 3 months though.
Posted by ElleDuMondeUgh. My wife bought some cherries from them that tasted like bleach after they were washed even.Posted by QuantumI agree.
I know I sound like an old fart, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Now get the fuck off my lawn.
...and please understand, in no way am I crying "Victim!"....I'm just reiterating what is actually out there and what people have to sift through to find something organic and healthy.
Kind of like going to Meijers lately.......even though the watermelon looks great....you get it home and it smells like paint thinner after sitting in the fridge for just a few hours....due to all the additives.
I won't go back and repeat that.....but I would have had no way of knowing this the first time around because every other time I've ever been there I didn't have an issue.
1st time shame on you
2nd time shame on me
3rd time.......haul me off to the insane asylum
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Produce in this state sucks.
Posted by libraqueen
You'd have to be really dumb to not know when a guy just wants sex or not.
There are men out there who are a bit more cunning sophisticated in that dept. Just like someone cheating on their spouse, in most cases there would be tell tell signs, but there are men that keep it locked down at home, while having some side piece once in a while, so their spouse/so have no clue what they've truly been up to.
And if you think there aren't men out there like that, you're not as smart as you think you are.
Posted by SensitiveBluesPosted by Sssupeswell most women want a mate for life and want marriage and children and many men play on the women's fears and insecuritiesPosted by ElleDuMondeHaven't you figured out yet that 82% of women on dxp are victims? 100% are innocent and get fooled by men, except @DMV.
all these perfect women on dxp who never make a mistake judging character....who would have thought this place is really eden?
*eye roll*
dont blame us, blame society
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If y'all got a grip on that there wouldn't be an issue. Hell, men want the same thing y'all do
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