When will she bring her guard down? what can i do? (Page 2)

This topic was created in the Relationships forum by leejt86 on Sunday, August 18, 2013 and has 73 replies.

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@bkbella86
15 Years5,000+ PostsAries

Posted by P-Angel
You are obviously, seriously deluded.

You say she is a model, and you say that that is you in your avatar .... which means, she's likely a nine, and you're a 4 at best.

People of feathers flock together, and that includes looks.

You don't have a chance in hell with a beautiful woman of the model magnitude ..... and you are either to egotistical that you've rendered yourself blinded to the truth ... or just na??ve as fuck.

Do yourself a favor and step away before you get hurt.

omgeeee

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@Amandus
16 Years1,000+ PostsVirgo

I thought Qui-Gon Jinn was supposed to be a revered and very wise Jedi. He even carries a green lightsaber which originally, during the time of The Old Republic, represented a jedi that preferred solving problems peacefully rather than fight head on.

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@bkbella86
15 Years5,000+ PostsAries

Posted by leejt86

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Also, OP, what do you mean by "affection?"

I sent her roses on her birthday.

I told her i cared about her, i would send her texts calling her beautiful and things like that.

What bothers me is, why would she invite me out to hang out, run errands, etc, if it was too "weird for her". She invited me out last week. And I dont mean me initiating it i mean her texting me "hey do you want to go with me to...."

how was that not "weird" for her

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leos love the attention and to be adored...she liked getting her mane stroked till ish got too real

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by xdimplez

As far as the OP... Just let it be, and let live, let it unravel on its own. Stop questioning, stop dissecting , and just see where this ends up. If she wants to be with you, she will let you know. If not, well ... You'll still remain friends.

Talk about superficial bullshit. I was just talking on the Pisces board about people being superficial, and really having no clue ... they think that just because they spoke, that it had value.

You didn't read this, because if you did, you would have found out that he stalked the girl ... and she had to get someone else (a friend) to get him to leave her alone.

:::: shakes head ::::

surface bullshit that means nothing

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

Posted by xdimplez
Lol

As far as the OP... Just let it be, and let live, let it unravel on its own. Stop questioning, stop dissecting , and just see where this ends up. If she wants to be with you, she will let you know. If not, well ... You'll still remain friends.

yep thats all i can do. Im leaving it alone, i made a mistake

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

Ummm I do hold myself accountable. I just said I came on too strong and it overwhelmed her.

But you have no reason to accuse me of stalking her.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by leejt86

But you have no reason to accuse me of stalking her.

That's exactly what you did.

She tells you she doesn't want a relationship with you, so you spend the next month sending her flowers, you send texts telling her you like her and how pretty she is, and you keep tabs on what she is doing ... all because you wouldn't take "no" for an answer, you made the decision that you were going to try and push her into liking you.

She had to sic one of her friends on you to get you to back off and leave her alone.

That's stalking a person

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by leejt86

.... I came on too strong and it overwhelmed her.

It didn't overwhelm her ... it scared her.

If she had to get another person to get you to stop then she was scared.

This is what I mean ..... you don't know that what you did was wrong, you think it was nothing bad ... so, therefore you will do it again to another woman.

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by leejt86

But you have no reason to accuse me of stalking her.

That's exactly what you did.

She tells you she doesn't want a relationship with you, so you spend the next month sending her flowers, you send texts telling her you like her and how pretty she is, and you keep tabs on what she is doing ... all because you wouldn't take "no" for an answer, you made the decision that you were going to try and push her into liking you.

She had to sic one of her friends on you to get you to back off and leave her alone.

That's stalking a person

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where did you get the impression that i was keeping tabs on her? She has her own life i have mine, I dont need to know what she's doing every second.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by leejt86

.... she has her guard up and wont let anyone get close, at all.

If you know that she won't let "anyone" get close to her, at all .... then that means you are keeping tabs on her all the time to have this information.

Or, maybe you were lying, and you don't really know what you were talking about when you said that?

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

and ... that IS stalking a person

You kept tabs on her (which we've established, since you know are aware of every person she is in contact with, to know whether or not she gets close to someone), you continued to approach her in a way she considered to be inappropriate .. until you were forced to leave her alone by one of her friends.

Still ... you refuse to acknowledge that you violated her.

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@rockyroadicecream
14 Years10,000+ Posts

Despite P's approach, she's right. I even pointed it out.

You totally did the "nice guy" approach. You didn't respect her boundaries, you didn't listen to what she had to say and decided that you knew what was best for the situation and that you could change her mind by pulling all these stunts. It's why I said that while they're nice gestures, they were not appropriate for the situation. Life is not a romantic comedy. Being that guy turned annoying creeper because he refuses to take no is not amusing/adorable/will get you the girl because it's just oh so funny and quirky. She can't resist! Real life does not function like that.

Overall, it makes you a rather big jerk, whether you realize it or not. You essentially decided that you'd try to manipulate the situation because you didn't want to take no for an answer.

That said, don't take it as a reason not to continue such nice things when dating. I see so many guys who do this, become jaded and bitchy because they don't get their way when they think they should and do a 180 and start being assholes toward women. This situation is just a life lesson. You just need to learn to read the obvious better and don't push/manipulate to get your way because it no longer makes you a truly nice guy - just a "nice" one that manipulates to get their way.

Sometimes mutual interest just doesn't happen. It sucks but there will be someone out there who is. When they are, shower THAT person with all the nice gestures of affection. They deserve it anyway. Not someone who's stated they aren't interested.

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

Yeah i screwed it up by not listening to her. I realize that now.

All i can do now is move on and learn what not to do next time

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@ScorpioFish
15 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by leejt86
So as you all know im in love with a leo woman.

Im at the point where I dont know how to move forward. She has been hurt a lot in the past so she has her guard up and wont let anyone get close, at all. Will she ever let her guard down and let me get close? Is there anything i can do? Or is she going to push me away because she doesnt want to get hurt?

I smell bullshit.

She knows you like her, and is making you pursue her because she gets more attention than normal as a result of baiting you along.

This whole "I've been hurt before and I cannot be with a man ever again" crap gets lame after a few months.

Most sensible women snap out of that shit after a temporary hiatus because they realize how lonely, miserable, empty and disappointing their lives will be without the companionship and love that a good man brings.

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

i have an odd question, if i keep on completely ignoring her, since she is a Leo woman, will it drive her insane wondering why im ignoring her?

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by leejt86
i have an odd question, if i keep on completely ignoring her, since she is a Leo woman, will it drive her insane wondering why im ignoring her?

Oh, I see you haven't finished stalking her yet ... and are only saying you're moving on to try and continue to manipulate her.

::: shakes head :::

What a loser

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@leejt86
13 YearsVirgo

hahaha making me the bad guy again....

anyway, she texted me yesterday, after no conversation for two weeks, she's already trying to come back into my life...

i told her straight up i wasnt ready to be friends again just yet...

sigh.....