My Scorp is leaving me for a Scorp... (Page 2)

Thanks. I actually get where you are going.

One question though. If this is the case why then would she randomly come to my place of work to see if I am ok, or to apologies for something that happened? Because this happened 2 weeks ago and prior to that a month ago.

I probably didn't make my self clear enough, not even Friday when I told her that there was an event coming up, like before, and the only why I would go is if she was my date. Then she gets quite and starts asking me about me feelings, I tell her and she goes MIA.

No, I haven't told her straight up 'Hey beautiful, I want you to know that I love you and I don't want anyone but you. My heart has already decided that you are mine.' And your right, maybe I should have. But I also haven't been hiding my emotions.

So it seems that neither of us are mature enough to handle this, yet we still return to each other. Although, this round I am not so sure... 😢 Last year this time the same shit happened just before her birth day. Then her birthday comes along and I made sure that she gets treated they way a lady deserves to be treated. But again, maybe I didn't do it for her. Maybe I felt good when she was crying cause nobody had ever done something like that for her.

I don't know, because if I am self serving in this regard then I don't have the right concept of what love is, and probably should not tell her I love her if I don't mean it.

I am just so annoyed by the situation, so please, I don't mean to be sarcastic, I just don't know what to feel and even if I want to feel anymore.

I'll do that Impulsv. I really am at that point where I have to make it clear or lose out because I am not honest about my feelings. I need to sit her down, I know that, and she is avoiding me, so she probably knows something is coming. ffs ;(

Posted by tiziani
The more details you reveal about this situation, the more I am confused. Good luck.

Me too.

So are you guys even intimate or really just friendly and stuff..

This girl is confused by you and something tells me she is suspicious of your behavior as well. You need to give her time to sort out what she really wants with out your help. Right now, your just caught up in the chase. If you leave now while you still have a little dignity left, she'll eventually start to miss you and come to you. Keep in mind, this may take months. This actually works in your favor as well as hers, giving yourself an opportunity to regain your footing and allowing her time to miss you and realize that no other guy is going to treat her as good as you. You don't see it now, but this is really for the best.

Posted by starlover
Sun quincunx Moon in the natal chart suggests an individual who seems to live life constantly making adjustments and concessions. There can be a tendency to offer too much and then feeling taken advantage of. Passive-aggressiveness can be a problem as well. The native seems to expect that he or she has to make compromises in life in order to get what he or she wants, but in the process, undervalues his or her needs. When the native expresses his or her will (Sun), he or she feels vaguely insecure, as the emotions don't "back up" the will. When the native expresses his or her needs (Moon), the ego balks. Indecisiveness is the result, as well as a tendency to be quite unfocused, tense, on edge, and largely unsettled. The native needs to work on accepting both the Sun and the Moon in his or her personality in order to feel whole and to avoid sabotaging relationships and life goals with self-defeating attitudes.

Sheeeet only gets better doesn't it.

Thanks though. So i should acknowledge the battle but persue no matter what.

Let the heart pick the battles but the mind win it. Feels like I will betray a part of me, but it is for the better.

Must say that when I went to sign up at the gym again yesterday I felt will and emotion going up against one another.

So in one sec, when the guy asked me when do you want to start I felt these opposites and before my emtion got the better of me I said today. So yeah. Will is happy, emotion will just get use to it.

Thanks, I understand a bit better of how to handle this part of me 🙂

Posted by KVZZMIR11
Tbh based on your comments you just sound bitter about the breakup.

It's like you can't STAND the idea of being single...now you're pissed off, bitter, resentful and this won't work!

You need to be HAPPY...living it up with the boys, hooking up with chicks (if you want) and basically LOVING YOURSELF and TIME ALONE!

That's when the Scorpio will come running back...after you've cut her!

Its like chicks have a 6th sense that they sense you're happy without them..
I know it makes no sense but its experience...after the break up the Gem always calls at times when I'm having the most fun.

WHY?

You don't sound like you're having fun, which is why she left you in the first place.
FORGET HER, GET OUT THERE and have fun and I guarantee she'll be blowing up your cell then you can decide if you even want the Scorpio back.

Thanks, yes I am pissed, you are 100% right about that.

I don't find it easy, and yes I said in my OP that it is my fault for choosing her, and not being able to tell her straight up that I love her. Keen observation skills you have...

I am fully aware of where I am at, and aware that I should probably just stay away from her and enjoy my life. And I am trying to do just that now. I asked for help on here because you don't piss away two years of whatever the fuck it is. No matter what I still have fun and enjoy every min with her, and I told her that a great many times.

So it is time to just get my act together, I know. But I would also like to get over the fact that we did spend a lot of time together and we did actually do more together than I have mentioned on here. I get attached, so fucking shoot me.

Never the less, thanks for the suggestions. I contemplate contacting her often but I haven't done so since Sat and I don't think I should either. I will only be used up again if I do. I feel I should let her know that I still think of her, but that has to end as well, and I think you just made me sick to the thought of doing it atm, so I won't. Still feels like I am going against what feels natural, and my gut, but whatever.

The user who posted this message has hidden it.

I saw that lol

She did agree, and as a matter of fact she made some of the arrangements for us last week.

Probably 😛

Look, I am really trying. I am fighting all urges and thoughts. The min I feel it creeping up I get up and do something else just to regain my composure, then I return to what I was busy with. I really am trying.

So, I was at the gym today, going back now just shutting down my emotional part that wants to not go anywhere atm and just going out one step at a time.

On my way back home, just about got a heart attack when I drove past a ice cream parlor and out side with a friend sat this heart stopping long haired brunette hehehe (Say what you will but there is no woman more attractive than a brunette) just about wound my own neck of.

I internalize a lot of things, and it takes me a long time to release emotions like these, and if you guys get annoyed by me, tell me, I'll cut the thread and just go on figuring this out myself, no harm no foul.

Posted by tiziani
But from what I'm reading and understanding (very little at this point) it's as if the shot was open, but you didn't even take a jumper from downtown my man. Let alone drive to the bucket.


I'm so confused by your confusion. I went from thinking she was your girlfriend that left you (because of the thread title) to actually she's just a decent civilian.

No one has the duty to play the role you assign to them in your fantasy. And for 2 years, it's turning into obsession.

There was no "my scorp". I'd be really freaked out if someone I would call a friend would confess after 2 years, I would feel he had an ulterior motive all along. Seems to be the case here.

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Posted by tiziani
But from what I'm reading and understanding (very little at this point) it's as if the shot was open, but you didn't even take a jumper from downtown my man. Let alone drive to the bucket.


I'm so confused by your confusion. I went from thinking she was your girlfriend that left you (because of the thread title) to actually she's just a decent civilian.

No one has the duty to play the role you assign to them in your fantasy. And for 2 years, it's turning into obsession.

There was no "my scorp". I'd be really freaked out if someone I would call a friend would confess after 2 years, I would feel he had an ulterior motive all along. Seems to be the case here.

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Agreed, 3 months after we met I told her I am interested and she told me we should take it slow.

Knocked me on my ass since Taurus go slow not the scorp lol

But then again, I am probably not her type anyway, butch, asshole, sponge, drive a 4x4 that my daddy bought, selling or doing drugs since they need to pay for the university studies they never complete living like Van Wilder.

And yes, this is the crowed she runs to, and I know because I have had the misfortune of being introduced to most of them, and being told about them every time she ended up where she didn't belong, all teary etc...

I don't want to harbor hate or anything of the sort.

Did we offically date? No

Did we sleep together? No

Where we physical by other means? Very much so

Did we even go out in public and display PDA? The past 5 months alot, till the last asshole tried a move while I was around, she backed up in to my arms and I made it clear that he will be hanging by his balls from the terrace if he makes one more advance that upsets her.

Afterwards she said that she doesn't want to go out to place as often because of this. I would take her to up market places where even an assholes money can't get you too the door, never mind through the door.

So what the fuck is this? I don't know.

Posted by Impulsv
But ur a Virgo damnata. The Scorpio need language to be told directly otherwise she will assume it all in our heads. it just freinds.

I'm exactly the same.

Say it upfront or make a move. Either/or.

If not I will overthink it til I psyche myself out that there isn't anything more to it than friendship.

Posted by Impulsv
But ur a Virgo damnata. The Scorpio need language to be told directly otherwise she will assume it all in our heads. it just freinds.
When young was in love with a libra n I knew he had feeling for me. He never made a move , both never!! I started talking to a Scorpio because I never saw more or libra make a move. Libra got mad n threw a ball n left. We never spoke again. For years even when married I dreamt of him n the angst that I never confessed.

Years later after him leaving we spoke I apologized for it n he said call me. I loved him n never called him. Painfully shy for me to reach out. He married.
So both sign will be passive until the man makes it clear for us. We expect man to lead.

Now I'm different n go for what I want but a young Scorpio can very much be as omega describes yet love him.

Until he's direct she'll assume it all means nothing. We need to hear I love u, your my girlfriend.

we need to hear it!!!

😢

Posted by OmagaIII
Agreed, 3 months after we met I told her I am interested and she told me we should take it slow.

Okay, now we're getting somewhere.

If she said that, she either really wanted to go slow or felt no chemistry and maybe assumed she will feel it at some point.

1 year 9 months since then have passed. That was more than enough time for her to jump your bones if she felt attraction.

I think she's not attracted to you. Maybe she's a decent person and wanted to see where things went but couldn't feel a connection with you in the end.

I'd walk away without further stating my feelings. If someone doesn't want you..and she had enough time to want you during the last 2 years..then you're only going to freak her out. And this is the best outcome..the worst would be her taking you for a ride because now she knows she has you in her back pocket.

I mean if you actually verbalized that and nothing happened for 2 years..I just take it you're a good guy and she wanted to have you around. Sounds selfish to me.

It's up to the person saying "I want to take it slow" to let you know when the pace can pick up so if she never did that but went along with this boundarless friendship..it's because she'd rather have you around in a friend capacity than not there at all.

You need to realize that she never told this Scorpio guy she wants to go slow by the looks of it.

That by itself should be the writing on the wall for you.

Posted by Impulsv
Oh a scorp can withstand push n pull for four years.

Apparently she did mainly the pushing and just went along with him pulling.

That's not genuine.

"Let's take it slow" makes a person think "Yes, they are into me. It's just a matter of timing". If that timing never happens, the person will see reality which in most cases is "I'm not really that attracted to you"

Most cases, not all.

I've seen this a lot with people in general and the going slow part.

Some are genuine, due to bad past experience. But the genuine people will foster intimacy at a progressive pace..small things along the way to show you "I'm really into you, it's just bad timing"

The rest..watch how their "Taking slow" bullshit changes the moment they find themselves strongly attracted to someone.

I mean Scorpio chick having this guy being consistent with her, always alongside her for 2 years and she doesn't jump his bones? No way. She bid her time to let him down easily.

Posted by Impulsv
Shes an immature scorp I take it young too. yes she said that n would expect the subject to bring up the issue again. Never her. Is that right nope but it's Just like me when I never called back.

She would've laid claim on him in a heartbeart. Unequivocally.

Her falling so quickly for someone else..there was no taking it slow. She probably really liked him at a person but the primal attraction wasn't there.

Either way, Taurus guy..

Do whatever brings you peace of mind. It's not about her and it should've always been about you first and her second.

Whatever makes you feel at peace and having no regrets over this..do it. Think selfishly here.

Posted by OmagaIII


I am fully aware of where I am at, and aware that I should probably just stay away from her and enjoy my life. And I am trying to do just that now. I asked for help on here because you don't piss away two years of whatever the fuck it is. ...I would also like to get over the fact that we did spend a lot of time together and we did actually do more together than I have mentioned on here. I get attached, so fucking shoot me.

And that right there is what seperates Scorps from Bulls every time. We will stick it through with you (if you're worth it), get attached as well, but no matter who or what "it" is, if the Scorp no longer see it as helpful or beneficial to the mind, body or soul, a mature Scorp will cut it loose without all the wishy-washy himming and hawing over shared history.

The main problem here however is not even a matter of her just "pissing away" 2 years as if you don't matter. I think she cares about you. The problem here is the fact that she was not "there" with you on that magical ride. In other words, she saw you as a friend, treated you as such and you saw rainbows and unicorns and now you are left wondering how another man---that made it clear about what it was he wanted---swooped in.

Don't mistake that for her not caring about you. That's all you.

Posted by PhoenixRising
In other words, she saw you as a friend, treated you as such and you saw rainbows and unicorns and now you are left wondering how another man---that made it clear about what it was he wanted---swooped in.

Don't mistake that for her not caring about you. That's all you.

Yup.

Can't a poor Earth sign chap vent frustration away on a Water board? It's where all the feels are. 😛

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Posted by OmagaIII


I am fully aware of where I am at, and aware that I should probably just stay away from her and enjoy my life. And I am trying to do just that now. I asked for help on here because you don't piss away two years of whatever the fuck it is. ...I would also like to get over the fact that we did spend a lot of time together and we did actually do more together than I have mentioned on here. I get attached, so fucking shoot me.

And that right there is what seperates Scorps from Bulls every time. We will stick it through with you (if you're worth it), get attached as well, but no matter who or what "it" is, if the Scorp no longer see it as helpful or beneficial to the mind, body or soul, a mature Scorp will cut it loose without all the wishy-washy himming and hawing over shared history.

The main problem here however is not even a matter of her just "pissing away" 2 years as if you don't matter. I think she cares about you. The problem here is the fact that she was not "there" with you on that magical ride. In other words, she saw you as a friend, treated you as such and you saw rainbows and unicorns and now you are left wondering how another man---that made it clear about what it was he wanted---swooped in.

Don't mistake that for her not caring about you. That's all you.

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Ok, I understand.

Like I mentioned, I don't want to ever harbor anything against her over this. I do love her ;(

Again, I didn't get stubborn when I had the chance to get the one I want, and still do. A part of me also thinks she does care, I don't know for sure at what level since I haven't told her I love her and want her and need to know what she wants.

A lot happened and a lot of people straight dismiss what has happened as being friends only. I don't know, because no friend has eve done that for me, and the limited dating I have, my girl friends did. So I was clearly under the wrong impression, totally my lack of expression to clear the matter.

Posted by OmagaIII

Ok, I understand.

Like I mentioned, I don't want to ever harbor anything against her over this. I do love her ;(

Again, I didn't get stubborn when I had the chance to get the one I want, and still do. A part of me also thinks she does care, I don't know for sure at what level since I haven't told her I love her and want her and need to know what she wants.

A lot happened and a lot of people straight dismiss what has happened as being friends only. I don't know, because no friend has eve done that for me, and the limited dating I have, my girl friends did. So I was clearly under the wrong impression, totally my lack of expression to clear the matter.

Understood.

I did not read the entire thread, so I am not sure what you shared and what you mean by "a lot", but I will say in general Scorps are very committed in relationship--all "real" relationships (e.g. friends, romantic, family). They will show you a lot of understanding, loyalty and dedication, which can be understood or misunderstood. It can be tricky when it involves the opposite sex.

Case and point, I believe somewhere in this thread you questioned why she would check in with you to make sure you were okay and apologize for something that happened and Elle (TS) replied because that is what friends do. It is. At least for a Scorp.

It looks like lines just got blurry here. Not a huge problem that can't be addressed. Step up, let it go and remain friends, let her go, stay friends after you've taken space...whatever you choose, try not to get stuck on messages you misread.

Posted by Damnata

Can't a poor Earth sign chap vent frustration away on a Water board? 😛

I have a Gem Moon. What do you think my answer would be? You get an hour tops (or 3-4 pages) than I'm over it.

Besties get an hour and a half 😛

I'm teasing Omaga (but not really 😄)

Posted by OmagaIII\

I don't want to harbor hate or anything of the sort.

Did we offically date? No

Did we sleep together? No

Where we physical by other means? Very much so


So what the fuck is this? I don't know.

It's been two years...this is all I'll offer you. Clean up and move on.

So, guess who just rocked up at my door her true and honest old self again—

Now someone please tell me what this is.

She is her self, she is calm, she is happy, her hair, her eyes even her voice like the angel I met. She asks me how I am and she was just wondering about me and how I am doing.

Then she tells me she hasn't been her self and that she was so glad to see me again...

And I am like W...T...F!

So, she just walks in and starts talking and really just being her playful self. Then she hints that she needs to get going, but she keeps talking, bringing up other topics and just steering as much conv as possible.

An hour later she finally gets in the car and she still just pitches her smiles and keeps talking and dancing to music etc...

The she tells me she'll see me Saturday...

FFS... I am still shivering...

What is this? lol

Posted by OmagaIII
So, guess who just rocked up at my door her true and honest old self again—

Now someone please tell me what this is.

She is her self, she is calm, she is happy, her hair, her eyes even her voice like the angel I met. She asks me how I am and she was just wondering about me and how I am doing.

Then she tells me she hasn't been her self and that she was so glad to see me again...

And I am like W...T...F!

So, she just walks in and starts talking and really just being her playful self. Then she hints that she needs to get going, but she keeps talking, bringing up other topics and just steering as much conv as possible.

An hour later she finally gets in the car and she still just pitches her smiles and keeps talking and dancing to music etc...

The she tells me she'll see me Saturday...

FFS... I am still shivering...

What is this? lol

Her shoes are dirty...you gonna let her clean them off on you again?

I don't even know defaq just happened never mind.

No, I don't want to. Not again. FFS, I just started getting to the point where I can say let it be (lol) and now this...

That will last until the scorpio boy find a taurus. Don't worry.

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Posted by OmagaIII


Any positive advice will be appreciated please please please.

Marry her.

As they say... put a ring on it.

Then he will be here 5 years later.

"Scorpio Wife divorcing me for a Scorpio"

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Yup!

Run, Omaga, RUN!

sheetttt

She got me over analyzing stuff again 😢

Need to just stop this flatout >.

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Posted by OmagaIII
So, guess who just rocked up at my door her true and honest old self again—

Now someone please tell me what this is.

She is her self, she is calm, she is happy, her hair, her eyes even her voice like the angel I met. She asks me how I am and she was just wondering about me and how I am doing.

Then she tells me she hasn't been her self and that she was so glad to see me again...

And I am like W...T...F!

So, she just walks in and starts talking and really just being her playful self. Then she hints that she needs to get going, but she keeps talking, bringing up other topics and just steering as much conv as possible.

An hour later she finally gets in the car and she still just pitches her smiles and keeps talking and dancing to music etc...

The she tells me she'll see me Saturday...

FFS... I am still shivering...

What is this? lol

Let her go. She is playing you.

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Bingo!

Posted by KVZZMIR11
What I notice is 90% of comments in this thread are baseless assumptions

Lol.

People jump to conclusions, yet OP has yet to share the REASON for why she left him in the first place.

So I guess your comments fall under the 90% aswell.

I honestly don't know.

Did we have a fight? Nope, not once in 2 years.

Disagreement? Not right before she left nor at least 2 months prior. We also have an agreement; we won't part untill any dispute is resolved.

Did she see/hear/find something that angered her? Again, I am straight down the barrel with this. She has access to anything at any time if needs be and if she asks I tell.

So I am not sure, but pitch questions, don't make assumptions, and maybe I can also find out.

Posted by Iwill
HAVE NOONE LEARNED NOTHING FROM LIFE AND DXP—? This nigga is in loooooooooooove. He can't stop won't stop. If he could, he would just do it.

Omagal, you just chose which ever advise you like and go with that. We all know, that he's gonna do, what he's gonna do regardsless🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Riddle me this though: are you holding on to this un succesful relationship, because you are afraid of real love? Do you ever PANIC, if you think about, what would REALLY happen, if she one day said, she wanted to be with you? Wouldn't you shit your pants——?

I obsess and stay tuned foreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer, ignore the signs (the good ones, the bad ones, I'm blind as a bat😄 😄), but only with ONE person, I haven't panicked, thinking about how it would be and what it would REALLY mean, if they loved me back!!! (and part of me thinks the not panick thing is because this love is so far fetched, SO impossible, that I cant even imagine IN MY MIND how it would feel!!!) Think about it Omagal...

JUST..... think about it😉

(totally mindfucking😄)

Whahaha awesome post thanks 😄 😄 😄

Nope, haven't felt that. As a matter of fact I feel calm and satisfied when those thoughts pop up 😛

Oh and for the past 5 months or so I have been having an ichy ring finger 😉

Yes I would marry her, yes I am most likely messed up in my head... hahaha

Omagalll,

All I can say is that. Give it a try. You will be happy whatever the outcome. If she can't handle herself

very well. Then be there for her. Talk to her and ask her what she wants and your wants.

My Taurus man is not a good talker but his actions does speaks volume. I never heard of him saying *don't go*

but he was saying 3x times *it was love, M*(after he threw me out in his pad) lol. and it took me 4 months to

think to give another try. Drop your ego. It won't get you further but hurting yourself.Be adult when you

deal this Scorpia. You will earn her respect.

So, today feels like disaster.

I had my project meetings and she wasn't there. Just after the meeting she tezts me that we should meet up at a coffee shop. I reluctantly agreed.

So I get there and she has already picked a spot for us. As soon as I sit down she starts chatting like everything is 100% a ok. Like nothing changed ect...

Then she tells me she told the new guy off and he now effectively is a stalker and is pretty mean with the messages and stuff he sends. (I fucking wonder why...) Anyway, things start calming down and we can actually talk a bit.

At some point she tells me she needs to go to the ladies. As jy walks past me she smiles and points to a table a way back behind us.

Here sits a guy and his girl, she walks over, hugs him, which stunned me and his girl and start chatting. Cool.

A fucking half an hour later their food is getting cold, she is still sitting and talking to the guy much to my and his girls dismay. I get so pissed that I get my stuff together to leave.

Then suddenly she is back talking about the guy and the fact the she doesn't know if the girl is his old ex or new girl etc. Now I am really pissed off. So I ask her, 'What does it matter?' And she yaps on about how it does and doesn't.

As I stand up, she clicks, somethibg is wrong. So she suddenly stops me and asks what gives. So I look at her and say you tell me. Immediatly I see she is shocked and floored. So I tell her whay the hell is this, your here with me and you pull stuff like this! She tells me but she went to the ladies and... I stop her abd tell her no. You went and sat with this guy which you just told me is a jerk while he has his girl with him expecting me to do what?

She just went silent. I told her to just forget it, doesn't matter. So I sense the tension, she folds her arms and moves closer but I just keep my pose. I finished my drink and said Lets go, she tells me no, I say yes.

Take out my wallet and she asks if she can pay half the bill. I tell her no. So, I walk her to her car. Tell her we'll talk again but she just stands there. Starts talking a bit but again I tell her goodnight.

She gets in her car but I can see she is stunned. She just sits there. After I got in my car and was moving did she actually pull away.

What the fuck is this? If she gonna pull this shit then I am gonna lose it. And why do I first have to get pissed off before she realizes what is happening?

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Posted by OmagaIII


Then she tells me she told the new guy off and he now effectively is a stalker and is pretty mean with the messages and stuff he sends. (I fucking wonder why...)

Massive warning sign. I stay well away from women like that

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Oh I get the picture all right. It bloody hurts so bad I can't handle it anymore. She really doesn't think at all about any action or reaction, she just pisses everything away and I keep letting her back ;( ;( ;(

She is making a decision for me at this point. I need to to just tell her how I feel and cut my self lose. ;(

"Here sits a guy and his girl, she walks over, hugs him, which stunned me and his girl and start chatting. Cool."

To put it lightly this girl is a bitch! And not just because of the reason above. Tell her to stop acting like she doesn't know what she is doing. Or like I said before... RUN!

Why the hell is she hugging her supposed stalker?

Oh no... this is another guy from a while back...

Ffs

Ohhh okay. Oops. Still sounds like she is playing games with you/seeing how far she can go...

What is ffs?

I feel bad for you what a horrible situation after investing two years... Especially for her to act like she doesn't understand what the problem is. 😢

Posted by Eris
I feel bad for you what a horrible situation after investing two years... Especially for her to act like she doesn't understand what the problem is. 😢

For the first time ever I actually think a shot hit home. Like she might have thought, oh crap...

But this won't do. I'll just have to let go of her. She is way to imature to be with me.

Yes, indeed!

Perhaps one day she will grow up (probably years away) and she might come back apologizing and stating where she went wrong and how sorry she is.

You deserve better young taurus...

You are right. And I understand what you mean. I am just scared of what might happen if I go full taurus on her ass.

But I am now at a point where she has been waving that fucking red cloth long enough.

I didn't fully understand what was meant before about using that part of me, I do now!

I think infinite 8, impulsive and the others make a good point. How do you expect this woman to be loyal to you if you guys lack very basic understandings of what each other wants and needs? First comes the clarity and understanding, then a commitment, then loyalty. From reading about her recent actions, she seems like she may not know how you truly feel about her, maybe your lack of clarity may cause her to think you want her as a friend and are sort of joking when you hint at feelings for her. Maybe that's why she was confused then shocked. And she does sound extremely immature and maybe even naive. I agree. It's time to man up and make bold actions. My Taurus is actually 10 years older than me and we experienced this (almost) exact same situation, and went back and forth for THE longest! He had horrible communication skills and I was also terribly emotionally unavailable and needed someone with good communication skills to pull me out of my fear of loving and to actually bring myself to a level of 100% commitment. We would push and pull, pull and push. I always thought he just wanted a fantasy to distract him from life struggles, company or someone to confide in-before he let me in on his feelings, I had slight suspicions of it but I always thought if he wanted me, he would show and tell. I did have about 3 guys that I was dating and that he knew about. When he would make negative comments about them or me (for dating them) I assumed he did it because he cared about me like a friend would, not because he cared for me as a lover and was jealous. Once he told me how he felt about me I sort of cut the others off. Then once he let me know he actually wanted a commitment, I totally cut the others off and only allowed him in my mind and heart. Now were expecting and engaged.

But I will say this, the fact that she went to the other guys table and spoke to him for over 2 minutes and left his girl wondering what was happening is very alarming. Either she's a stone cold bitch or she is too naive/innocent/impressionable to even realize when she has crossed a boundary or when someone else is crossing her boundary. I don't know how old she is, but learning boundaries in relationships are a huge struggle with in your late teens and 20s. There is a serious learning curve and I think that learning curve knocked her in the head when she realized how much of an asshole she was being when you were able to help her see her mistake. You seem like a decent guy and you ne

And one more thing. I don't know if this applies to you but with my Taurus, I was too scared to tell him I had feelings for him and I, mistakenly, would drop hints. He never really understood these hints to be those type of hints. He thought I was just trying to seduce him, fill his head up with gas or play games. and I think he resented me for this. I found it hard to get his attention through hints (because it constantly started drama) so I decided to get his attention through the very childish, immature way which was to show him how wanted I was by a string of amazing guys I could easily get and hope that this would inspire him to confess his feelings for me and ask for a commitment. This blew up in my face and ended up with guys getting into physical altercations with one another. It was awful. I do think she cares for you, I just think the two of you need clarity.