Scorpio and Virgo Dilemma (Page 3)

Sweetpea:

Not sure about his Venus/Mars for my scorpio. I don't know the time that he was born-isn't that one of the criteria?

No so, I think she was asking what your venus and Mars was..

Lol @ EG

Sweetpea:

Oops. My Venus is Cancer and Mars is Virgo.

By the way, Emeraldgem, I'm responding to a question Sweetpea asked. If you're not interested in reading this Bullsh*t , well, here's a thought -- don't read it.

nots and fiddlestick, take a chill pill.... She needs to understand that Scorpios in general love to be desired. When we don't feel like we are we lose interest, unless the sex is just too irresistable.

I have a few tricks you can try if you need some. Hmmm, I thought Virgo girls were aggressive...

Start subtly. When he least expects it rub your fingers gently up his arm and whisper something subtly errotic in his ear (preferrably some compliment of a sort) Then kiss his ear or neck and brush right pass him...

See what stands up then... Heeeheeheee. Intimacy is a must for Scorps... Remember that!!!

Just like the Scorp guy. Cocky and who told you, you were chill?? LOL!!! Self impossed?

My bad... You just came off with that comment like one of our counter male parts... We can be a little harsh too I guess.

I'm a guy and I'm a Leo so I know what pride is but, even though it can be difficult to deal with it, rationality always comes first and wins over pride if you are mature enough. I am sorry to say that I think you are being very selfish with your man, I completely understand what he is doing and what he is feeling. You say you fell hurt because he does not initiate sex for more than a month now and that you are starting to fell undesired and unattractive? How do you think HE fells if you never, ever initiate it?! He needs to fell desired, he needs to know you want him but you never give this simple thing to him! Playing along every time he initiates sex is not enough, by now he must think you don't like him and that you were faking. Think for god sake!!! He does not want you to initiate sex every time but a 10/1 ratio would sure fell nice and fix the whole situation. For your own good act quickly and drop your ego, personally I would not stay in a relationship like this were a women was to proud to show her true feelings and desires at least once in a while, I would stay with her while she was pregnant but after that?
Ego+Pride+Intelligence = strong character; Ego+Pride-Intelligence = stupidity

Wow, a pride sermon from a Leo. I am impressed! I know you all have a point -- beleive me, I am not stupid -- just slow !
How did we get back to this again? By the way, I'm expecting a Cancer child (another sensitive sort)...

So,

Thanks, I'll take a look see and get back with you. To the "Queen" so true, so true about we scorps, we love to be desired. In fact desire is our middle name! I would be afraid to fall for a cancer. We would be emersed in too much emotion/depression together, and they are so so clingy, but that would take care of our possessive nature. In in all they are very beautiful souls good ones to escape with into a true romantic dream! As children it is crucial that they have a well adjusted childhood experience as with any child, but especially for them, if female - daddy's role is important, if mail the opposite, but extremely sensitive - I thought we scorps were sensitive!

Oh and for leo to step up like that. Bless his heart. We know behind all that pride and bravado is a truly loving and sensitive soul as well. We just need to learn how to keep you on your throne🙂

"nots and fiddlestick, take a chill pill.... She needs to understand that Scorpios in general love to be desired. When we don't feel like we are we lose interest"

i think everyone has been telling her this for the past 10 pages. as for a chill pill: i get offended when people have their heads up their asses when it comes to loved ones.

::BANG::

"::BANG::"

That can have multiple meanings Doctor.

"That can have multiple meanings Doctor."

ONLY YOU G, only you would come up with that!!!!

Perish the though..I would die if you ever left the boards..

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Sobs

"Perish the though..I would die if you ever left the boards.."

Two birds with one stone.

"dammit.....now that's 12.....well at least we're not talking about it anymore.....!"

Basically So, Sola and others shud take lessons from EGEM.

"Two birds with one stone."

Thats you struck off the list!!!

"n i thought i was stubborn...
time to change the yardstick"

The jury is still out on this...Pluto 😉

"Thats you struck off the list!!!"

Ohh...Doctor the Assassin 😛

LOL...No I was kidding.

"half the time i dont know when ur serious n when ur kidding..."

LOL..Ooooh the power!

"half the time i dont know when ur serious n when ur kidding...
crazy ram/chimp"

Half of the times even am not sure ...How wud U be 😛

"yeha prob thats why i stay away from rams.."

Yeah when U dream of tigers...How wud a Ram fit into the scheme 😛

"im having a temptation to call him tiger now...as a nickname..."

haa haa...Sure that wud give him enuf hints 😉

So,

With Venus in Cancer and Mars in Virgo, I see your issue. It's hard to go against your nature doll. Just looking at your chart info briefly, there is great deal of good in you. Not knowing all the details of your scorps chart info, I'd say he does have quite and interesting catch in you. Don't worry too much and watch that you don't get an upset stomach too often. Let him fill you up with protein and veggies, until you give him the go ahead. Your going to need your energy. Oh and don't you go cheating on him either🙂 We want you to be a good little mommie.

SweetPea:

That was interesting. Thanks! Yep, i think we're pretty lucky to have each other. He left me sunflowers with a card in my car at the train station yesterday --Knocked me over with a feather.

So,

How is our mommie doing? I really want to know.

Sweet Pea

This is why every Scorpio should get themsleves a Virgo or vise versa.

Clio,

Whatever for?

Sweet Pea

So

Did you give it to him?

Are you blissfully a couple again...shag each others brains out?

I wanna know damn it!

Hi:

Yes, after he left the flowers in my car and a great card that said he wanted to work things out and asked me to "please help in making this better"
I made the move. It really touched me that he held himself out that way. The sex was great --that was never the actual issue...BUT, it's not as if we've done a complete 180 degree turn -- which, I must say, is disappointing. I think I expected that once I did this it would be "fixed" ... but things never quite work out that way in real life.

Woohhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

AprilBaby,

When I say that it would have been her fault, what I mean is that her behavior toward her scorp in some ways appears manipulative in the sense that it allows her to stay in her comfort zone, by not initiating. He has no choice but to break down or close himself off. If she steps out of that zone she is showing a willingness to compromise and be vulnerable. Here she is contributing to the greater good of the relationship, and not adding to its demise. If he initiates and she responds, that is very positive, but now it appears to be what I thought from the beginning, there are deeper needs which are not being met.

Sweet Pea

So,

Hey babycakes. How are you feeling? Is baby growing ok? We hope so. How is poppie doing? I'm glad you made physical contact. That's a step in the right direction. I know you need more. The flowers and note had added appeal for you. That romance is so important, loving gestures, thoughtfullness, tenderness, that feeling that the person you love is lost without you as you are without them. That feeling that you are nourished by your lovers presence in your life, that your spirits are fed by the other, and sharing a protectiveness of each other that is something fierce. I don't know if you need something that deep, but that's what I would need to survive in a relationship. Now we know that these blessings don't just fall in our laps, we have to work at them, and nututre them consistently over time, and the more help that we have from our astrological influences the better our chances.

Sweet Pea

SweetPea:

Baby seems to be doing fine..all vital parts seem to be working (thank goodness), we're unsure of the sex but looks like it'll be a Cancer! Another water sign. LOL.
Scorpioman and I are heading to Florida for a family wedding for a week -- we're thrilled about it. You are right, working at it can be hard -- the rewards are wonderful -- but nevertheless, it takes nurturing. I'll be honest, I'm worried (in truly typical Virgo fashion)that we won't keep up the "momentum" but there's too much at risk here for me not to give it my best shot.
Thanks for letting me vent...

So,

Good to hear that baby is growing nicely. Try to be happy So, baby feels what you feel. Try to just love poppie and allow him to experience the goodness associated with pregnancy, encourage him to touch and rub your tummy often and to sing to baby and read to baby. Take long baths together too. When your love making resumes he will be so gentle with you, you'll want to cry. Let him see your happiness about what's growing inside you, you have to feel that baby Cancer is everything in the world to you, which, I'm sure she is and will be.

Sweet Pea

SweetPea:

Back from trip to Florida for a family wedding -- it was relaxing! Baby in tummy is doing fine but WTF**K? We were there 1 week and had sex once. Come on folks, I know I'm not the initiator Queen by a long shot, as you know, I did go ahead and inititate which was a big step. Ok, I get it, a round of applause for me (sarcasm) -- But, 1 week and we had sex once? By the way, it was after the wedding reception when my scorpman had some thing to drink...get where I'm going with this? Now I'm pissed and venting. I just feel like an A** now!

-So

June 28..getting closer!!

So,

Many men won't tell you that they feel protective of baby -- often have lots of weird feelings about putting their manhood "close" to the baby...especailly now you are in your last trimester. So expect the sex to diminish as the baby bump gets bigger 🙂

Eaglegirl

That's a good point.

Doctors say its good...induces labor and all....

Funny, Mr. Nice..that does sound good -- but you're right,I am a true Virgo and since I have made a move of initiating, I think "ok - i did you what you wanted, so why haven't things changed?" Not ready to give up yet--too much at stake.

thx.

ewww a cancer baby 😛

Congratulations 🙂

no seriously bling...sex is advised during pregnancy...

🙂
i KNOW!
Me too.

So true! Kids are work -- one of the reasons I waited to be out of my 20's before thinking about procreating -- It'll be an adventure.

Scopiogoat--

No offense taken - Yep, I AM slow...and also have a entire truckload of PRIDE wrapped up in this "sex initiation" issue. I've heard that Virgos & Taurus are very slow to make up their minds, not sure, don't know too many Taurus folk.

HI So,

I'm glad to hear you made your move on him. I think you need to do it more often. If I was him, I'd think that you did it just to please me. You need to do it out of desire and love for you man. Please do it more often. I really don't want you to lose him. He obviously loves you and desires you but he wants you to initiate so that he feels you really desire and want him. Have a talk with him about his feelings toward sex during your 3rd trimester. If he has conflicting feelings (due to baby and him being scared to hurt the baby), either discuss it together with your doctor or wait until you give birth. I imagine after birth you'll be really tired since newborns are a handful but remember to make time for romance. Men get jealous of babies too since some of us women give more attention and love to our children than our men. I wish you lots of luck. He sounds like a keeper! You lucky girl you! 🙂
I know its hard for you to come out of your shell sexually. I am freaky but have performance issues with being on top, its something I refuse to do because I'm afraid I can't do it right. I get all nervous and anxious and switch positions quick. I too have to come out of my shell because my Scorpio doesn't take NO for an answer.

Oh yes, Taureans are super slow to make a decision especially if it has to do with change. It is excruciating for impatient folks. I think its similar to Libra indeciveness. It wears thin on my nerves. I really don't like my fellow Earth signs for romantic partners.

I don't know Virgos who are that stubborn, Virgo is a mutable sign. This sound like your Taurus moon. Taurus are super stubborn.

I know guys that can hold out very long with sex and others who can't go without sex for more than a few hours. Every man is different.

Try to make believe you are a sex goddess, role play if you must and initiate. When I need confidence, I channel someone. Like for ice skating confidence, I pretend I am Nancy Kerrigan and I think of how confident and good she is on the ice, and I'll imagine that I'm her. So I guess for sexual confidence, channel Jenna Jameson, she's hot and she's good at seducing men. She's also a smart business women and she has mad "respect" in her business because she didn't settle for less (money-wise, etc). Watch one of her pornos if you can. Share the porno with your Scorpio, he might love it. Oh have you read her book, its an interesting read "How to Make Love Like a Porn Star"? I guess I should take my own advice and channel her when I need confidence "riding". lol 😉