Inexperienced Taurus with heavy water placements - what to do?

Posted by busyeyes88
U had sex with him too soon before determining the relationship you want. All men regardless of sun sign will sex a woman without commitment if she does not Make it clear what she wants from day one!!

If you can hang out with him without the sex then do so but if you can't call it quits!! If you sex him, he will add you to his "harem" list!

Yeah, maybe you're right.. does it make a difference that HE has made it abundantly clear to me that this isn't about sex and that he wants me in my life anyway?
He told me he'd rather be friends with me without the sex if it means he can keep me in his life (his words)

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Posted by busyeyes88
U had sex with him too soon before determining the relationship you want. All men regardless of sun sign will sex a woman without commitment if she does not Make it clear what she wants from day one!!

If you can hang out with him without the sex then do so but if you can't call it quits!! If you sex him, he will add you to his "harem" list!

Yeah, maybe you're right.. does it make a difference that HE has made it abundantly clear to me that this isn't about sex and that he wants me in my life anyway?
He told me he'd rather be friends with me without the sex if it means he can keep me in his life (his words)

A man will say anything to get the kitty!! Your best bet would have been to hang out with him much longer and study him on a platonic friend basis and emotionally connect with him first!! He would have still taken you out for meals, cinema, movies because he liked you and respected you and without you having sex with him.

He has turned around and told you "this isn't about sex" AFTER he has already sexed you!!! What has He got to lose? Nothing!!! It would have hurt your ego less had you had the same result but without you sexing him!!

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Yeah, you have a point obviously, it all happened too fast, and I think especially for him being so inexperienced.
I'm a Scorpio Venus so when I do like someone (doesn't happen that often) I can get intense myself and hung up on the sexual part, though I must say, I had sex pretty early on with both my exes (Virgo and Gemini) and they both turned out to be lasting relationships regardless.

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Posted by busyeyes88
U had sex with him too soon before determining the relationship you want. All men regardless of sun sign will sex a woman without commitment if she does not Make it clear what she wants from day one!!

If you can hang out with him without the sex then do so but if you can't call it quits!! If you sex him, he will add you to his "harem" list!

Yeah, maybe you're right.. does it make a difference that HE has made it abundantly clear to me that this isn't about sex and that he wants me in my life anyway?
He told me he'd rather be friends with me without the sex if it means he can keep me in his life (his words)

A man will say anything to get the kitty!! Your best bet would have been to hang out with him much longer and study him on a platonic friend basis and emotionally connect with him first!! He would have still taken you out for meals, cinema, movies because he liked you and respected you and without you having sex with him.

He has turned around and told you "this isn't about sex" AFTER he has already sexed you!!! What has He got to lose? Nothing!!! It would have hurt your ego less had you had the same result but without you sexing him!!

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He actually just texted me and invited me for an event with other people around, completely non-sexual. Good sign though? 🙂

Yeah, actually, he said he was prone to thinking in "definite" terms about people a lot, exactly like you say! We've had a long discussion about it, and he did tell me that he would try not to be definite about this relationship - and that's all I'm asking from him, really. To just consider it, you know? It's a real good thing we have going.

If you can be platonic friends sure!! You may have to watch him eyeing up or flirting with other girls!! He has already had sex with you so the curiosity is not there for him... You sex him you will be added to his harem as he has now made it clear after having sex with you first that he does not want a relationship!!! If you cannot be platonic friends with him 1) walk away or 2) be happy to join his harem ; you will not be the girl he dates for a relationship or marries....





Thanks for the warning. No, I don't want to be one of them (though he's never had ANYONE before me at all) and I don't think I can do platonic friends with him either, but we'll see how it goes. If he hasn't changed his mind in say two months, I'm finishing it. I'm mentally prepared and thanks for preparing me even more, I appreciate it! 🙂

do you want to be in a relationship? or are you happy to just see where this goes?

why is it about a relationship that he doesn't want?

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Posted by busyeyes88
U had sex with him too soon before determining the relationship you want. All men regardless of sun sign will sex a woman without commitment if she does not Make it clear what she wants from day one!!

If you can hang out with him without the sex then do so but if you can't call it quits!! If you sex him, he will add you to his "harem" list!

Yeah, maybe you're right.. does it make a difference that HE has made it abundantly clear to me that this isn't about sex and that he wants me in my life anyway?
He told me he'd rather be friends with me without the sex if it means he can keep me in his life (his words)

A man will say anything to get the kitty!! Your best bet would have been to hang out with him much longer and study him on a platonic friend basis and emotionally connect with him first!! He would have still taken you out for meals, cinema, movies because he liked you and respected you and without you having sex with him.

He has turned around and told you "this isn't about sex" AFTER he has already sexed you!!! What has He got to lose? Nothing!!! It would have hurt your ego less had you had the same result but without you sexing him!!

He actually just texted me and invited me for an event with other people around, completely non-sexual. Good sign though? 🙂

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JPX you two were consenting adults! I find NOTHING wrong with the two of you "hooking up". I am Pisces, so I can empathize and sympathize (I don't judge). Girlfriend, he just wants the booty! You frightened him thinking you wanted more than that. Every woman does! There must have been SOMETHING you two said to one another. Maybe he said he's not ready for a relationship and you agreed with him; just guessing.

Since you want "more" than friends with benefits he panicked! Good girl! It's kinda like what I like to call "The honeymoon stage is over". He showed you his true colors. Since he heard your "good-byes" he didn't like that! Either he likes to say his good-byes and this time you caught him by surprise...again, good girl! Let him continue to "woo" you (if he's interested). To me you let him go and he....came back!

Like my Libra friend tells me, "Have fun! you're still young, and take your time". You found someone to go out on dates with. Heck! Your weekends are booked now! Let him continue to woo you and have fun! Take your time! 😉

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Posted by jeane
do you want to be in a relationship? or are you happy to just see where this goes?

why is it about a relationship that he doesn't want?

I want to see where it goes, I'm surprised myself because I didn't find myself interested in him at all at first and something just "happened".

AND, great question by the way, he told me he didn't want a relationship and I told him goodbye, and HE was the one who broke down about it and now he keeps acting like WE'RE in a relationship - a relationship he said he wasn't ready for. You tell me, I really don't know :/

Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

JPX you two were consenting adults! I find NOTHING wrong with the two of you "hooking up". I am Pisces, so I can empathize and sympathize (I don't judge). Girlfriend, he just wants the booty! You frightened him thinking you wanted more than that. Every woman does! There must have been SOMETHING you two said to one another. Maybe he said he's not ready for a relationship and you agreed with him; just guessing.

Since you want "more" than friends with benefits he panicked! Good girl! It's kinda like what I like to call "The honeymoon stage is over". He showed you his true colors. Since he heard your "good-byes" he didn't like that! Either he likes to say his good-byes and this time you caught him by surprise...again, good girl! Let him continue to "woo" you (if he's interested). To me you let him go and he....came back!

Like my Libra friend tells me, "Have fun! you're still young, and take your time". You found someone to go out on dates with. Heck! Your weekends are booked now! Let him continue to woo you and have fun! Take your time! 😉




No, nothing wrong with hooking up, of course. It just hurt me that he ASSUMED he knew what I was like, what I was thinking and feeling without EVER asking me or asking me what my views on relationships were, he even admits to this himself, that he never brought it up. Ever. Just made assumptions.

Yeah, why did he even freak out like that? To me it was simple, we didn't want the same thing, so best cut it clean.. it was HIM who freaked out on me and showed up at my house and wouldn't leave until I told him so. Why would you even bother with a girl you only want sex out of? I mean, come on.

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Posted by jeane
do you want to be in a relationship? or are you happy to just see where this goes?

why is it about a relationship that he doesn't want?

I want to see where it goes, I'm surprised myself because I didn't find myself interested in him at all at first and something just "happened".

AND, great question by the way, he told me he didn't want a relationship and I told him goodbye, and HE was the one who broke down about it and now he keeps acting like WE'RE in a relationship - a relationship he said he wasn't ready for. You tell me, I really don't know :/

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i think if you are not too concerned with a label then keep doing what you are doing. i think you should absolutely define what it is you are doing though. set some ground rules. have clear boundaries about what you expect.

i would also ask him, what is it about a relationship that he doesn't want? then lay it out for him all the things a relationship with you entails. he might surprise you. he might agree to all your terms and realise the relationship tag isn't as bad as he expected.

i had this very early on in my relationship except i did want a relationship. my partner didn't. i walked. he came round. his reasons were understandable for not wanting to get involved again but sometimes they need that push to get them into action. once i had reassured him, things were fine and we were able to go from there.

you can sleep with them first though without the official commitment, you just have to have a good idea of the type of person they are and what you want out of it.

Posted by enfant_terrible
Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

Yeah, there was a reason why I brought the inexperienced part up. If it hadn't been for that, I would've cut him out of my life, because I'm not interested in a casual relationship really, or well, at least not with someone who rules it out of the question, if you know what I mean.
And like I told this Taurus guy, there is no pressure. I get that it's all new for him. I'm giving him time to figure it out and figure out what he wants from me. What I don't understand is why he is being so intense about it after this discussion we just had, he is literally treating me like a girlfriend. I don't understand why he's not taking it easy.

Posted by enfant_terrible
Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

i think this is sound thinking though. how young is he? he probably will want to sample what is out there. if you are willing, maybe you can sample them with him but i don't know how freaky deaky you are.

but you know, maybe the best advice is to throw him back, this one is a little too small. with his lack of experience, you're going to have to raise him. do you want that?

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Posted by enfant_terrible
Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

Yeah, there was a reason why I brought the inexperienced part up. If it hadn't been for that, I would've cut him out of my life, because I'm not interested in a casual relationship really, or well, at least not with someone who rules it out of the question, if you know what I mean.
And like I told this Taurus guy, there is no pressure. I get that it's all new for him. I'm giving him time to figure it out and figure out what he wants from me. What I don't understand is why he is being so intense about it after this discussion we just had, he is literally treating me like a girlfriend. I don't understand why he's not taking it easy.

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he is treating you this way because it is new. he's not jaded and cynical. he's probably excited that he finally got his end away. now his juvenile relationship emotions are getting the best of him.

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Posted by jeane
do you want to be in a relationship? or are you happy to just see where this goes?

why is it about a relationship that he doesn't want?

I want to see where it goes, I'm surprised myself because I didn't find myself interested in him at all at first and something just "happened".

AND, great question by the way, he told me he didn't want a relationship and I told him goodbye, and HE was the one who broke down about it and now he keeps acting like WE'RE in a relationship - a relationship he said he wasn't ready for. You tell me, I really don't know :/

i think if you are not too concerned with a label then keep doing what you are doing. i think you should absolutely define what it is you are doing though. set some ground rules. have clear boundaries about what you expect.

i would also ask him, what is it about a relationship that he doesn't want? then lay it out for him all the things a relationship with you entails. he might surprise you. he might agree to all your terms and realise the relationship tag isn't as bad as he expected.

i had this very early on in my relationship except i did want a relationship. my partner didn't. i walked. he came round. his reasons were understandable for not wanting to get involved again but sometimes they need that push to get them into action. once i had reassured him, things were fine and we were able to go from there.

you can sleep with them first though without the official commitment, you just have to have a good idea of the type of person they are and what you want out of it.

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This is great, sound advice, thanks. It's exactly what I was thinking.
I feel like I don't need a label right now, it's too soon for me too and I never even mentioned a relationship to him anyway, I just want to see how it feels and where it goes without any pressure at all, from any side.
But I will definitely bring this subject up with him, and ask him his views on relationships, because to me, what he's asking from me ("I want us to hang out, watch movies, talk music, go out together") is pretty much a relationship to me, since I mainly want a relationship with someone's who's my friend above all else.

My last partner (Virgo) had the same problem, he was quite inexperienced and had problems expressing his feelings. He REFUSED to acknowledge what kind of feelings he had for me, even after five months, which hurt me a lot. I decided to give it some time anyway, and he came around after being let alone to ponder it without any pressure from me. We were a couple for four years.
Not saying that will happen agai

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Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

Yeah, there was a reason why I brought the inexperienced part up. If it hadn't been for that, I would've cut him out of my life, because I'm not interested in a casual relationship really, or well, at least not with someone who rules it out of the question, if you know what I mean.
And like I told this Taurus guy, there is no pressure. I get that it's all new for him. I'm giving him time to figure it out and figure out what he wants from me. What I don't understand is why he is being so intense about it after this discussion we just had, he is literally treating me like a girlfriend. I don't understand why he's not taking it easy.

he is treating you this way because it is new. he's not jaded and cynical. he's probably excited that he finally got his end away. now his juvenile relationship emotions are getting the best of him.

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What she said.

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Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

i think this is sound thinking though. how young is he? he probably will want to sample what is out there. if you are willing, maybe you can sample them with him but i don't know how freaky deaky you are.

but you know, maybe the best advice is to throw him back, this one is a little too small. with his lack of experience, you're going to have to raise him. do you want that?

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Yeah, though he keeps telling me he's never been into the thought of sleeping around and that there's "a reason" why he's not been with anybody.
But who knows. I'm prepared for that too.
I've never been one to gamle a lot on my emotions or relationships (Virgo..) but I'm going to take a chance this time because we really do like each other, that much is clear.

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Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

i think this is sound thinking though. how young is he? he probably will want to sample what is out there. if you are willing, maybe you can sample them with him but i don't know how freaky deaky you are.

but you know, maybe the best advice is to throw him back, this one is a little too small. with his lack of experience, you're going to have to raise him. do you want that?

Yeah, though he keeps telling me he's never been into the thought of sleeping around and that there's "a reason" why he's not been with anybody.
But who knows. I'm prepared for that too.
I've never been one to gamle a lot on my emotions or relationships (Virgo..) but I'm going to take a chance this time because we really do like each other, that much is clear.

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then gamble and good luck but from one scorp venus to another, don't bet more than you are prepared to lose.

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Jfc cut the guy some slack. You were his first. You already expect him to settle down? What's wrong with hanging out/taking it casually with or without sex. Time will show what the two of you are about, if you are even that serious about him yourself.

Miss passive aggressive/jaded dreamkiller here immediately assumes he's some mastermind player lmfao.. dude's not even dry behind the ears yet.

i think this is sound thinking though. how young is he? he probably will want to sample what is out there. if you are willing, maybe you can sample them with him but i don't know how freaky deaky you are.

but you know, maybe the best advice is to throw him back, this one is a little too small. with his lack of experience, you're going to have to raise him. do you want that?

Yeah, though he keeps telling me he's never been into the thought of sleeping around and that there's "a reason" why he's not been with anybody.
But who knows. I'm prepared for that too.
I've never been one to gamle a lot on my emotions or relationships (Virgo..) but I'm going to take a chance this time because we really do like each other, that much is clear.

then gamble and good luck but from one scorp venus to another, don't bet more than you are prepared to lose.

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Yeah, I know. I'm going with my gut on this one, I'd never accept this if it wasn't a person I really, really thought was worth it, and I think he is. There is no doubt in my mind that he is a great, sweet person, I know that. His inexperience is what worries me, like people have pointed out, and that's why he might not be ready for anything serious.

Posted by Nevermore
I have the placement except for moon and asc..
Only thing is that either his moon conjunct his venus and mars has a huge difference. (I have moon exact square venus.. I respond differently of how to interact with love).

But that impulsive responses is right there I guarantee it.. But most importantly it sounds like he really wants to get to know you much.

So yeah, better of having platonic friends then in which it's safe deal.

Thanks! Probably safer, yeah.
Can you explain that impulsive response? I'm not a very impulsive person at all and I would never have done what he did.

Taurus and Virgo are peanut butter and jelly it's the best of both worlds when put together.I've read that when Taurus and Virgo energies connect they bring out the 5th and 9th house in their relationship.the Virgo Sun person will trigger the 5th house for Taurus which will bring Taurus more fun going out being more inspired in life being more creative being a lot more happier with yourself .Virgo can also be a great healer for Taurus when upset or stuck in a rut they can also help to improve our self-esteem. The 5th house represents love passion romance pleasure and Taurus seems to have more love/fun with people with strong Virgo in them.For Virgo Taurus triggers the 9th house which is the house of luck.Taurus will be lucky for Virgo and bringing love and more happiness and wisdom to the Virgo.even if the Taurus does this threw a negative example the Taurus will teach Virgo life lessons.the Taurus will be like a teacher for Virgo and vise versa by making them think deeper about things and bring more light and clarity into the virgos life. The 11th house also represents expanding your mind through travel,knowledge, philosophy and Virgo and Taurus make great traveling companions.

Taurus and Virgo are great for any kind of relationship because both signs expand each other bring more positivity more fun more inspiration and more luck to each other.

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Taurus and Virgo are peanut butter and jelly it's the best of both worlds when put together.I've read that when Taurus and Virgo energies connect they bring out the 5th and 9th house in their relationship.the Virgo Sun person will trigger the 5th house for Taurus which will bring Taurus more fun going out being more inspired in life being more creative being a lot more happier with yourself .Virgo can also be a great healer for Taurus when upset or stuck in a rut they can also help to improve our self-esteem. The 5th house represents love passion romance pleasure and Taurus seems to have more love/fun with people with strong Virgo in them.For Virgo Taurus triggers the 9th house which is the house of luck.Taurus will be lucky for Virgo and bringing love and more happiness and wisdom to the Virgo.even if the Taurus does this threw a negative example the Taurus will teach Virgo life lessons.the Taurus will be like a teacher for Virgo and vise versa by making them think deeper about things and bring more light and clarity into the virgos life. The 11th house also represents expanding your mind through travel,knowledge, philosophy and Virgo and Taurus make great traveling companions.

Taurus and Virgo are great for any kind of relationship because both signs expand each other bring more positivity more fun more inspiration and more luck to each other.

Actually very true in this case, we're very good for each other creatively and intellectually, it's easy to talk to each other and reach agreements. We're extremely similar.

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I have the placement except for moon and asc..
Only thing is that either his moon conjunct his venus and mars has a huge difference. (I have moon exact square venus.. I respond differently of how to interact with love).

But that impulsive responses is right there I guarantee it.. But most importantly it sounds like he really wants to get to know you much.

So yeah, better of having platonic friends then in which it's safe deal.

Thanks! Probably safer, yeah.
Can you explain that impulsive response? I'm not a very impulsive person at all and I would never have done what he did.

His Aries mercury when immediately responded after you responded to him that you wont seeing him at all.. so yeah.

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Yeah, but if he was so decided already on not wanting a relationship with me, why even freak out about not being with me at all?
There are other girls around.

Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

Posted by jpx
Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

i just hear fear in that. he doesn't want to get hurt. he cares for you. be careful with his feelings. i don't think you are hearing him. he does want a relationship with you. he's afraid to be vulnerable though and scared to put his feelings (because taureans feel so incredibly deeply) on the line for you to just eventually leave him on a whim. you don't understand what a big leap of faith it is for him. that wile e coyote fall if things turn to shit is miles long for taurus.

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Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

i just hear fear in that. he doesn't want to get hurt. he cares for you. be careful with his feelings. i don't think you are hearing him. he does want a relationship with you. he's afraid to be vulnerable though and scared to put his feelings (because taureans feel so incredibly deeply) on the line for you to just eventually leave him on a whim. you don't understand what a big leap of faith it is for him. that wile e coyote fall if things turn to shit is miles long for taurus.

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Yeah, of course I understand this is a big transition for him and that's why I've accepted an open relationship for now, so he can decide for himself if he can handle or indeed really want a relationship with me. I was prepared to back off, but for some reason (and that's my real question here I guess, because I feel like he has feelings for me regardless of what others might think) he's even more intense now and acts even more like a "boyfriend" than before, after we had this talk. Maybe he's not even aware of it himself.

Though, he did also say he can have a hard time changing his mind about a relationship once he decided on it (like it's been previously suggested in this thread) but maybe this is more out of fear than anything else in this case.

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Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

i just hear fear in that. he doesn't want to get hurt. he cares for you. be careful with his feelings. i don't think you are hearing him. he does want a relationship with you. he's afraid to be vulnerable though and scared to put his feelings (because taureans feel so incredibly deeply) on the line for you to just eventually leave him on a whim. you don't understand what a big leap of faith it is for him. that wile e coyote fall if things turn to shit is miles long for taurus.

Yup, especially with Cancer placement and his moon..

Hence why I can read that he wants to get to know her well before stepping into the next level.

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I have no problem with that at all, I take my time myself in relationships (being in abusive relationships previously, this is a big deal to me as well, and I've explained this to him), all I ask of him is not to close any doors on an EVENTUAL relationship in the future, if all goes well and things work out between us.

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Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

i just hear fear in that. he doesn't want to get hurt. he cares for you. be careful with his feelings. i don't think you are hearing him. he does want a relationship with you. he's afraid to be vulnerable though and scared to put his feelings (because taureans feel so incredibly deeply) on the line for you to just eventually leave him on a whim. you don't understand what a big leap of faith it is for him. that wile e coyote fall if things turn to shit is miles long for taurus.

Yeah, of course I understand this is a big transition for him and that's why I've accepted an open relationship for now, so he can decide for himself if he can handle or indeed really want a relationship with me. I was prepared to back off, but for some reason (and that's my real question here I guess, because I feel like he has feelings for me regardless of what others might think) he's even more intense now and acts even more like a "boyfriend" than before, after we had this talk. Maybe he's not even aware of it himself.

Though, he did also say he can have a hard time changing his mind about a relationship once he decided on it (like it's been previously suggested in this thread) but maybe this is more out of fear than anything else in this case.

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how old is he?

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Maybe I should add that we've known each other for five months, and I did turn down a few of his advances earlier on, didn't think I was interested, and we recently had a conversation about him just "using" me for sex:

Him: "I take fucking offense from you trying to insinuate that I'm some kind of player or that I'm using you to get laid. There have BEEN oppurtunities for me before, I turned them down. I don't want just anybody and I don't just settle."
Me: "Yeah but you're ready to toss me aside as nothing serious to you"
Him: "I've been trying to tell you that I don't view you like that at all, and I don't want to toss you aside, I want to be with you but I didn't know what your views on relationships were, it felt to me like you wanted something casual and I thought that could work fine for me and nobody would get hurt."

So.. yeah.
Not sure, the more we talk about it, the more he seems to "change" his mind, but I'm mentally prepared for him to not want a relationship with me, obviously. I'm not going to forget about that 😢

i just hear fear in that. he doesn't want to get hurt. he cares for you. be careful with his feelings. i don't think you are hearing him. he does want a relationship with you. he's afraid to be vulnerable though and scared to put his feelings (because taureans feel so incredibly deeply) on the line for you to just eventually leave him on a whim. you don't understand what a big leap of faith it is for him. that wile e coyote fall if things turn to shit is miles long for taurus.

Yeah, of course I understand this is a big transition for him and that's why I've accepted an open relationship for now, so he can decide for himself if he can handle or indeed really want a relationship with me. I was prepared to back off, but for some reason (and that's my real question here I guess, because I feel like he has feelings for me regardless of what others might think) he's even more intense now and acts even more like a "boyfriend" than before, after we had this talk. Maybe he's not even aware of it himself.

Though, he did also say he can have a hard time changing his mind about a relationship once he decided on it (like it's been previously suggested in this thread) but maybe this is more out of fear than anything else in this case.

how old is he?

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He's 24. Very mature in other areas of life and serious about what he wants to achieve in life.

Posted by busyeyes88
OP, Jeane and Never have a point.... Taurus are not hot on "risk" and almost "self sabotage " themselves and they "test" their interest ALL the time!!! Easily hurt... Hard casing soft as much inside... Vulnerable in the wrong hands...

Take your time. Have occasions when you are not having sex with each other... Let him court you without the sex. Study him. See how often his phone rings ie is he popular, where does he hang, etc... Follow your gut. Let his actions talk...

Sometimes people say things they don't mean and push the other half away through pure fear!!!

Thanks. As it is now, he's booked me up for hundreds of things, lol, but in the near future, he wanted me to come over to watch a movie and make me dinner, and the day before that have a movie marathon with some of his best friends. I'm thinking of going with him to the friends thing, but cancel on the "one on one" thing.

The thing with me is, and I don't like to admit this, when I really like someone, I have a real hard time abstaining from sex with them. Too much Scorpio in me (Scorpio Moon/Venus) and we have a real strong sexual chemistry unfortunately. Best to avoid situations where it can occur I think!

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Wow... I can REALLY see your Scorp energy come out, love it!!

I totally get you when you say it's simple and best cut clean. It's definitely my way of doing things as well. I would also have been upset by his assumptions and not asking for my opinion (if it were me).

I don't know what to say. He told you the ending already: he is not ready for a relationship. He put you in a position where you could NEVER want more if you keep this going because he can always simply reply "but... I told you from the begining that I don't want a relationship".

To me, all this begging is just that he is extremely concerned for himself and likes the feeling of having you near, so he doesn't want to give that up.

But he is confusing with all that relationship stuff that he is adding now. Now, he is acting like a cancer!! Maybe his watery bits make him more emotional and indecisive. Emotionally he might be hooked, but his Taurus part already made the decision!

Honestly... If I were you, I would take a lot of time to see what I WANT. Do I want to just hang out with him as friends with NO EXPECTATIONS or do I want to cut clean an save myself from heart ache.

As a Scorpio, if he told me the ending... I would take that as FINAL TRUTH. He shows me his cards, now it's up to me to see what I want.

i think i disagree. my bull has vit and mars in cancer. i had nearly the exact (and i mean literally, word for word exact) conversation with my bull when we started and yes, like jxp i walked away. i wanted the relationship if he didn't then i agree, let's cut it's throat right now. i wasn't upset by the assumption, we hadn't really talked about what we each wanted so to find he wanted something else was his perogative.

there is nothing wrong with him wanting her near. isn't that a good thing? would the opposite be preferable? he is likely, as busy said, to be self sabotaging. his insecurities means he probably thinks that she will not stay with him. eventually she is going to find she is getting a bum deal and look for someone better.

the difference with me though is unlike jxp, i didn't come round. i wasn't prepared to go forward without the label. we were exclusive anyway but i wanted to ensure we had the same intention. it was hard for my bull i got that but i wasn't going to compromise on that. i was told he didn't want a relationship, he didn't want to be tied down, he wasn't ready for anything serious. it was fear on his part.

we negotiated and terms were agreed upon. we then took it very slowly. i didn't want to race either but i think op i happy with the situation (?). she wants to take the risk even if it means that there is a possibility that it would never be long term.

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Wow... I can REALLY see your Scorp energy come out, love it!!

I totally get you when you say it's simple and best cut clean. It's definitely my way of doing things as well. I would also have been upset by his assumptions and not asking for my opinion (if it were me).

I don't know what to say. He told you the ending already: he is not ready for a relationship. He put you in a position where you could NEVER want more if you keep this going because he can always simply reply "but... I told you from the begining that I don't want a relationship".

To me, all this begging is just that he is extremely concerned for himself and likes the feeling of having you near, so he doesn't want to give that up.

But he is confusing with all that relationship stuff that he is adding now. Now, he is acting like a cancer!! Maybe his watery bits make him more emotional and indecisive. Emotionally he might be hooked, but his Taurus part already made the decision!

Honestly... If I were you, I would take a lot of time to see what I WANT. Do I want to just hang out with him as friends with NO EXPECTATIONS or do I want to cut clean an save myself from heart ache.

As a Scorpio, if he told me the ending... I would take that as FINAL TRUTH. He shows me his cards, now it's up to me to see what I want.






Haha! I thank my lucky stars that I have Aqua rising, it makes me able to see things more clearly and not so emotionally and makes me able to really "cut clean" even though I have an emotional bond with someone, I've been accused more than one time of being "emotionally aloof".

I've done this with several guys before, not accepting the "I'm not looking for a relationship"-bullshit, but with him it's unclear to me what he really wants, because he seemed to already change his mind when we started discussing it. It's like we were both on one end of the spectrum, but when we were discussing it and started telling each other how we felt (we both like each other a lot and want to spend time with each other, and we're attracted to each other) it all became a grey area for both of us.
Actually, we both laughed at it and said it's bizarre that we were able to work that conflict out and calm each other down.

We've been a lot more upfront with each other since then, he's been telling me a bunch of personal family stuff, about him having trust issues because of it and I feel pretty confident about him having feelings for me.
But like you said - I see the "I'm not ready for a relationship" as the absolute truth for now, and all his boyfriend actions towards me.. I'm sceptical towards them, shall we say.

i think i disagree. my bull has vit and mars in cancer. i had nearly the exact (and i mean literally, word for word exact) conversation with my bull when we started and yes, like jxp i walked away. i wanted the relationship if he didn't then i agree, let's cut it's throat right now. i wasn't upset by the assumption, we hadn't really talked about what we each wanted so to find he wanted something else was his perogative.

there is nothing wrong with him wanting her near. isn't that a good thing? would the opposite be preferable? he is likely, as busy said, to be self sabotaging. his insecurities means he probably thinks that she will not stay with him. eventually she is going to find she is getting a bum deal and look for someone better.

the difference with me though is unlike jxp, i didn't come round. i wasn't prepared to go forward without the label. we were exclusive anyway but i wanted to ensure we had the same intention. it was hard for my bull i got that but i wasn't going to compromise on that. i was told he didn't want a relationship, he didn't want to be tied down, he wasn't ready for anything serious. it was fear on his part.

we negotiated and terms were agreed upon. we then took it very slowly. i didn't want to race either but i think op i happy with the situation (?). she wants to take the risk even if it means that there is a possibility that it would never be long term.




Yeah, I had a similar conversation/problem with my exboyfriend (Virgo) and he came around as well, he was extremely insecure about putting a label on his feelings and refused to acknowledge any deeper feelings for me, even though he acted like it and said he still wanted to be dating me. He was also very inexperienced.

Taurus told me he has had self confidence issues all through his adolescence and he's very body conscious. He was also very disappointed in himself with the sexual performance, and I felt like he sort of "gave up" on me and thought it was too late already because I'd seen him for what he was - inexperienced (since he said "even if you don't want to keep doing what we did this weekend, I still want to see you regardless").
I've made sure to be very supportive since he told me this though - to me he's really beautiful and I don't mind the inexperience at all, quite the contrary, and I told him this as well.

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@jpx

Why don't you ask him again? Where does he stand in the relationship bits? Is he still decided or is it a grey area for him?

Find that out before you go any further.

Yeah, I'm going to check up on that, and ask him to define what a relationship means to him, but I'm going to wait on that for a bit, and see how it goes for a month or so.
I'm mentally prepared for just about anything, I wouldn't keep seeing him if I felt I wasn't.

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OP, Jeane and Never have a point.... Taurus are not hot on "risk" and almost "self sabotage " themselves and they "test" their interest ALL the time!!! Easily hurt... Hard casing soft as much inside... Vulnerable in the wrong hands...

Take your time. Have occasions when you are not having sex with each other... Let him court you without the sex. Study him. See how often his phone rings ie is he popular, where does he hang, etc... Follow your gut. Let his actions talk...

Sometimes people say things they don't mean and push the other half away through pure fear!!!

Thanks. As it is now, he's booked me up for hundreds of things, lol, but in the near future, he wanted me to come over to watch a movie and make me dinner, and the day before that have a movie marathon with some of his best friends. I'm thinking of going with him to the friends thing, but cancel on the "one on one" thing.

The thing with me is, and I don't like to admit this, when I really like someone, I have a real hard time abstaining from sex with them. Too much Scorpio in me (Scorpio Moon/Venus) and we have a real strong sexual chemistry unfortunately. Best to avoid situations where it can occur I think!

You need to control the 'sex' thing.. This will prevent you from thinking clearly, make it easier for a guy, to sex you and toss you out the next day, men don't like 'easy' girls... Let them work for the kitty!!!!

Having a scorp moon and Venus is no excuse!! Self respect and an empty bed... Works much better!!! A man if interested in you will wine and dine you take you out for months end and not have sex with you until you are ready because he is interested in YOU. Your personality what makes you 'tick'.. Not just your kitty!!!

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Yeah, you have a point, but then, this is a whole other (interesting) topic. It's a debate I've had with myself a lot of times. Why should I not be able to act on my feelings and sexual instincts, just because I'm a woman? I totally get what you're saying and that men and women might be wired differently in this, but for some reason, some part of me refuses to accept this and I just feel like... if I feel it's right, I want to do it.
Luckily, I hardly ever like anyone and very seldomly become that attracted to anyone. Haha.

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Anyway, regardless of our opinions, the OP is going to hang in there and play it out!!

Yeah, let's say I've been scared and a coward in a lot of relationships and too careful with my feelings before and I'm sick of it.
If someone great comes along, I want to give it a try. I've decided he's worth it, we're very good for each other creatively and intellectually and I've missed that in a person for a lot of years. I'm glad I met him, regardless of the outcome.

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Anyway, regardless of our opinions, the OP is going to hang in there and play it out!!

Yeah, let's say I've been scared and a coward in a lot of relationships and too careful with my feelings before and I'm sick of it.
If someone great comes along, I want to give it a try. I've decided he's worth it, we're very good for each other creatively and intellectually and I've missed that in a person for a lot of years. I'm glad I met him, regardless of the outcome.

I say go for it if you feel that there is a lesson for you in it as well.

Your Tauro seems like a sweet guy too. Just make sure you don't fool yourself or start creating delusions... That is all really.

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Thanks!
Well, the thing for me is I don't like to be double crossed, or feel like I've been cheated in some way. Since he's been upfront with me and told me so much about himself and how he feels about things so far, I think it'll work out even if in the worst case scenario,if he decides he doesn't want to be with me. At least I'll know that i was a chance that I took myself, I wasn't fooled into this thing. It was my decision. That's the main thing for me.

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@jpx

If you have issues in the past with feeling cheated or double crossed, I suggest you schedule in some time for yourself (weekly if possible) on assessing where you stand and COMMUNICATE with him, ask him and don't be afraid to ask where he stands.

Make things clear in your head and don't assume anything. He is being nice and letting you in, sharing himself... BUT that don't assume that answers whether or not he is ready for a relationship.

Don't set yourself up is all I am saying. Enjoy the process but protect yourself more whenever possible.

You both have super compatible charts! But it all means nothing if you start feeling like you like him more than a friend and you are not honest with yourself or him - a whole month of limbo sound like a risk more for you than for him. But if you accept that and know the conveniences and are willing to accept any outcome without blaming anyone then that is a great lesson for you!

Good luck!! 🙂

Thanks, that's good advice!
I'll try to check in with him how he feels about things without pressuring him.

Oh, I already know I like him more than as a friend - that doesn't mean my life will stop or that I'll break down if he "leaves" me, quite the opposite. I've been through real horrible situations with people in the past so this is.. well, not much in comparison. I can handle it, it's more to do with me wanting to go with my gut and my heart for once, and not be so scared all the damn time.

Yeah, we are super compatible in real life, we're very similar, and we've both noticed it. It's gotten to the point where we feel so similar about certain things that it's getting "bizarre" (his words). I might also add that we've been hanging out as friends a lot for five weeks, one of his closest friends is one of my closest friends and I've been supporting them in their joint musical career, so there's a good foundation here, so far.

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Yeah, you have a point, but then, this is a whole other (interesting) topic. It's a debate I've had with myself a lot of times. Why should I not be able to act on my feelings and sexual instincts, just because I'm a woman? I totally get what you're saying and that men and women might be wired differently in this, but for some reason, some part of me refuses to accept this and I just feel like... if I feel it's right, I want to do it.
Luckily, I hardly ever like anyone and very seldomly become that attracted to anyone. Haha.'

You are correct and good that it does not hurt you or your ego! But for me, I could never cope with a guy sexing me, enjoying him and the sex and then having it end... I have 'missed out' on many opportunities because of this 'attachment' and prefer the 'pride' and 'empty bed' scenario!!

But if this were the case, why were you do quick to shut him down when he said he did not want a relationship? Think about that?!!

Do what suits you! Keep us posted OP!

I'll keep you posted for sure, I'm glad to have all these different perspectives on the situation! 🙂

Well, to me he sounded so damn definite about the whole thing, and it upset me that he just assumed to know what I was thinking and feeling about it. So I just thought, if he's going to be that black and white about it, then so am I. Then he reacted SO strongly and literally freaked out on me, and I didn't expect that. That he started telephoning me and came to my door in panic because of what I said made a huge impression on me, it made me feel like I did matter to him, after all, and the more we talked about it, the more he loosened up on the subject - that's why I did too.
But trust me, I wouldn't do that for anyone.
I was in a similar situation with another Taurus a year ago (Taurus Sun/Leo Moon/Gem Venus) and he said the same thing and also that he loved having open relationships and being able to see other people. That completely put me off him, and he's never showed me any sign of changing his mind or stance on relationships.. so yeah. He's never getting another chance with me. And the best thing is, he never got to sleep with me which I know irks him like hell. He's still trying to bed me 😛

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Nooooooooo!!!

The taurus and I who have been 'platonically' crushing on each other for almost a year has a Taurus sun, sag moon and a Venus in gem and I have a taurus sun, Leo moon and a Venus in Pisces!!! I have not slept with him either because of his 'unsettling' VIG and his 'mutable' sag moon... So we are STILL at loggerheads !!!

Nice one OP!! You are the one that 'got away'!! Lol lol

Yeah, he's a really good looking guy, great eyes, lol, but the more I got to know him, beneath all his charms and his directness, is someone very immature and extremely shallow. He even told me he could definitely be with "a stupid girl I didn't respect as long as she has a nice ass", I mean, come on.. haha. We're still friends and I'm trying to set him up with a female friend of mine but he still says things like "Oh I'm not sure I'll like her, but you know I'm always welcoming YOU"..
What's with these Venus in Gemini? Oh, and loggerheads is a great way to put it, haha! 😄

These two Tauruses are born on the same day as well! Haha. Look what different placements can do with two people.. they couldn't be further from each other, haha.

Just an update on the Colombian Virgo and French Taurus, since I'm here in France...

The broke up and are no longer together 😢 he said: he didn't want to be married and it was starting to feel like a marriage.

A Taurus doesn't change their mind.




So sorry to hear this! And sorry to hear about his stubborness..

I do know a Taurus that changed his mind completely though.
I was seeing this Taurus with Leo Moon and Gem Venus as I previously mentioned in the thread, and he had this girl (I think she's a Pisces) as a fuck buddy for over a year. She was madly in love with me and literally begged him to be her boyfriend. He refused and said he needed an open relationship. It was a real roller coaster ride for both of them, a lot of heated arguments.
I had a talk with him the other day and he told he'd changed his mind about this girl and wanted a serious and exclusive relationship with her.
She said no, and that she wanted to see other people and broke it off altogether.
He's heartbroken now, but yeah, what comes around...

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Just an update on the Colombian Virgo and French Taurus, since I'm here in France...

The broke up and are no longer together 😢 he said: he didn't want to be married and it was starting to feel like a marriage.

A Taurus doesn't change their mind.

So sorry to hear this! And sorry to hear about his stubborness..

I do know a Taurus that changed his mind completely though.
I was seeing this Taurus with Leo Moon and Gem Venus as I previously mentioned in the thread, and he had this girl (I think she's a Pisces) as a fuck buddy for over a year. She was madly in love with me and literally begged him to be her boyfriend. He refused and said he needed an open relationship. It was a real roller coaster ride for both of them, a lot of heated arguments.
I had a talk with him the other day and he told he'd changed his mind about this girl and wanted a serious and exclusive relationship with her.
She said no, and that she wanted to see other people and broke it off altogether.
He's heartbroken now, but yeah, what comes around...

Lololololololololololololo lololololololololololololo Oh man! I.love it!! Typical VIG!!! They think the world is their oyster lol lol lol lol




I couldn't resist but tell him that it served him right for stringing her along for so long.. 😛

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Hi OP!
I didnt get to read the entire seven pages... but from what I have read (the first 3pages ), he seems to genuinely like you.
Now I'm not sure if you got physical with him too soon. That's for you guys to decide. You are both grown ups and there is no point in holding on to our imaginary virginity just to fake coyness especially WHEn the sexual connection is way too insanely intense. Only when things are cute and romantic and kinda sexual and you are unsure you need to wait for a few months (?) Otherwise taurus will see through your drama. As long as it didnt start as a one night stand you dont have to worry too much abt it. Tauris men even the inexperienced ones understand sexual chemistry.
Now the great move by you was backing out as soon as he took relationship off the table. Thats how its done. Perfect. Now the guy respects you. That is the move that made u relationship material not how long u waited to do the deed. Gals get confused here. Its not holding out on intimacy that makes you gf material but how you value your worth thats what makes u gf material.
As long as the guy includes you in his weekend activities, gets physical with you, gets emotionally attached with u starts to get possessive over you, u got nothing to worry.
And dont avoid sex now. Avoid mind games. That's when it starts to become a game for him and he might think u lost interesting in him
Be yourself. And no just because you are his first and you are more experienced doesnt mean taurus guy wont stick around. They appreciate honesty. Be yourself. See where it takes you.
All the best.

Thank you so much! Best answer ever, it's like you read my mind.
I have no interest in playing any mind games and going around worrying about him leaving me if I don't do this and don't do that.
My feelings and my own intentions are clear and just feel like I've got past all those kinds of things. What he said made me insecure but trying not to let it show at all, this relationship feels very real to me and like we could have something great if we make it, and I want to sincerely give it a go.
I don't believe in holding back either, there was a great interest and attraction between us, and also a fantastic creative and intellectual union.
We started off as friends already this summer, though we didn't really start hanging out for real until Halloween. It's not that fast anyway, if you ask me.

He includes me in everything he does, invites me to things both alone with him and with his friends, we keep in touch almost ever day, he shows an interest in everything I do and how I'm feeling and the physical attraction is still there for both of us. It's all I could ever ask of any new romantic relationship.
We'll see where it takes us, like you said. Like with any other relationship.

Posted by wicked
You are both grown ups and there is no point in holding on to our imaginary virginity just to fake coyness especially WHEn the sexual connection is way too insanely intense. Only when things are cute and romantic and kinda sexual and you are unsure you need to wait for a few months (?) Otherwise taurus will see through your drama. As long as it didnt start as a one night stand you dont have to worry too much abt it. Tauris men even the inexperienced ones understand sexual chemistry.

i'm disagreeing with you here. in my experience, taurus men want to be told no. they want to to stand your ground and not jump in too quickly. that's what makes them respect you. if you leap too fat that they begin to think you do that with everyone. they want you to be choosy. they are choosy. they don't just sleep with just anyone, they want to feel like you don't sleep around either. this is why scorps are so good for taurus. scorps, like taurus, need to be heavily invested first. they need to time to assess and despite the attraction and chemistry they won't delve into a sexual relationship until the other person has earned it.

she got away with it this time because he is inexperienced. do this with most other taurus and she would be part of the harem before she could put her pants back on.

Posted by wicked
I do agree with you jeane.. but did she sleep with him right away? I think they were friends first? Knew each other for some months? Didnt she like say no? Too soon in her situation is doing it without getting lovey dovey if thats what she is looking for.
But i know taurus men who have asked their casual affairs to become exclusive with them. Yes it has happened too :-)
A friend of mine slept with him the first week of knowing the guy and dating him. Now he has asked her to marry him. ... they went steady for two yrs.

but this is a thread about guy who doesn't want a relationship after sleeping with her. i'm sure you can find exceptions to the rule but in my experience, taurus are discerning. i've found that some will sleep with you if it is offer but they won't think long term while others will become celibate until they find a person who meets their requirements. the number of threads here from women who have been firmly placed in the 'booty call' section of the rolodex is testament to that.

Posted by wicked
Lets see jeane. And where are the male taureans? Would like their insight.

i'm just telling you what i have been told by taurean men.

and hemispheres is also a bull (i think? have i made that up?)

Posted by wicked
@jeane:
Yeah most threads are about that. Only difference here is, he is including her in his activities and spending time with her. Men also develop emotions when they spend time with a non significant other.
I wish the op would come back and update us.
Some of the easiest men to get are Taureans IME! I dont even hold back on being impulsive nor temperamental. Still they stayed around me for years. As long as they know you are not promiscuous, and the connection is intense, I dont think they will hold it against the gal. As long as it is not on the first two dates and u knew each other for a while.
I feel when a woman holds out on the sex for too long with a taurus guy, it backfires. Seen it happen few times. Especially when they werent super crazy about the gal. They do wait if they believe you are The One.

he is including her because like i said, he is inexperienced. had it been another guy, she might have not been so lucky.

there has been a woman here that has slept with a bull for three years - nothing.

there was a post today from a cap who has known her bull for 14 years - nothing.

i think your initial sweeping statement (you've changed your claim somewhat in this post) that you can nab a bull by sleeping with him on the second date provided you have chemistry is false.

i never suggested holding out on sex or using sex as a prize (i think that backfires with every sign), i'm saying that they will respect you if you have boundaries and a sense of worth and integrity about yourself. you show that by not jumping into bed straight away, by waiting you show that you have deliberately chosen them as much as they has deliberately chosen you they ideally want a woman with dignity and class. look at the female bulls here. none of them speak about jumping from bed to bed. you don't hear them talk explicitly about sex. all of them talk about waiting, watching, going in when they feel comfortable and the time is right.

if a bull is going to put their heart on the line it is unlikely to be won in a matter of days.