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SummersBliss
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My sister is/was talking to a Taurus. We cannot for the life of us understand him at all.

Her, and I went out one evening our waiter was a guy. He was quite charming, and sweet to both myself, and my sister. Before we left he asked for her number.

It been about two months since then. Generally every so often my sister texts or calls "checking in" she seemed really happy to have met ol' Taurus.

Until...Last night. My sister texted me last night both upset, and furious. I ended up calling her. [ It was to damn much to read] but this is perfect because now I can paste! I hope all of this fits.

BUT in case it doesnt..

TO BE CONT..
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SummersBliss
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Before I paste here is a little background from a few things she told me.


The first time she checked in she simply stated. "I did him. Probably not getting a call back after this. Was really good though."

But he did call her back the next day actually. They went out a lot -- dancing, dinner, and movies. The entire SHABANG lol.

He even said he saw a lot of potential in her. Told her he really liked her, and that he could see a future with her in it.

She agreed to being his girlfriend. He had asked.

"Ryan" is Taurus

Here is the kicker[her text]
My bullshit phone won't let me paste ... so I'm short typing what she sent me.

"Summer, I am so pissed. I was out with Ryan. You know Jarred? I introduced them. Jarred had to go he gave me a hug, a kiss on my cheek, and then left. That was it.

Ryan, and I finished our good time. We went back to his place, and we fooled around twice.

Once I got home I call him to tell him I had made it home. He says he's glad I made it, and he thinks we should take a break. I'm to "friendly" to people. I seem way to close to Jarred.

I explained to him who Jarred was over dinner he seemed completely understanding.

Then he does this shit?

Then he tells me no big deal when I got upset, and that I shouldn't be upset because I have Jarred to fall back on.

He has tons of female friends that I've met. When I said that, he said its not the same, and he has to go because I'm being to emotional, then he hung up! Did he just wanna hit it that last time? Or is he really that jealous?
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hexum
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It sounds to me like he just wanted to hit it again before moving on. The fact that he ate dinner with her after the "incident", and then fooled around twice BEFORE making a big issue out of it is pretty lame. Then to turn it around on her for being emotional so he could get off the phone quickly...equally lame. It sounds like he was just looking for an excuse to break up with her and enjoying what he could in the interim.

Do guys seriously get that pissed off from innocent displays of affection between friends? I mean I get the jealousy possessive thing because I'm like that too. But I am also a RATIONAL human that knows many times just because you feel jealous doesn't mean there is something going on.
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lnana04
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Aww, you sound like me when it comes to my Virgo sister and her ex Taurus friend. You find yourself spending just as much time trying to figure out what's going on as the Virgo does lol. My sister always gives me the latest updates.

Seems lije he's attempting to get the ball in his court so she can chase and he can regain some control. IF he's adamant about moving on, his actions are not a reflection of what he really wants to do, trust that. He would've ended it before he fooled around again. If she makes him feel insecure in any way he'll pull these stunts so she's on the recieving end.
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SummersBliss
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Yes, definitely. I am all over the situation lol. We've been texting back, fourth most of the day. She's upset because its been about three years since she last dated, the last guy was abusive :/ she thought he was a great guy. I did too.

It ticks me off to no end.

I have no clue what he's up to, he's calling her now, and left her a message saying he's sorry, they should talk, he will listen. And to just talk to him.blah blah

I don't trust it.



Posted by lnana04
Aww, you sound like me when it comes to my Virgo sister and her ex Taurus friend. You find yourself spending just as much time trying to figure out what's going on as the Virgo does lol. My sister always gives me the latest updates.

Seems lije he's attempting to get the ball in his court so she can chase and he can regain some control. IF he's adamant about moving on, his actions are not a reflection of what he really wants to do, trust that. He would've ended it before he fooled around again. If she makes him feel insecure in any way he'll pull these stunts so she's on the recieving end.

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TLS
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Posted by lnana04


Seems lije he's attempting to get the ball in his court so she can chase and he can regain some control. IF he's adamant about moving on, his actions are not a reflection of what he really wants to do, trust that. He would've ended it before he fooled around again. If she makes him feel insecure in any way he'll pull these stunts so she's on the recieving end.



This resonates with me. Looking back on my more insecure years, I acted like this.
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hexum
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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
Posted by lnana04


Seems lije he's attempting to get the ball in his court so she can chase and he can regain some control. IF he's adamant about moving on, his actions are not a reflection of what he really wants to do, trust that. He would've ended it before he fooled around again. If she makes him feel insecure in any way he'll pull these stunts so she's on the recieving end.



This resonates with me. Looking back on my more insecure years, I acted like this.
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So you would eat dinner with your date, then screw her a couple times...and THEN your insecurity would pop up? I mean if he had something to say about it, shouldn't he have brought it up during dinner...or certainly PRIOR to sleeping with her TWICE? Sounds like a player - not an insecurity issue. Now he wants to be "friends" and "no hard feelings" and make her feel better by having sex again? He knows what he is doing.
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SummersBliss
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Shes not the type to be easily budged. She is very stubborn herself (lol). Shes simply giving him what he says he wanted. He called about three times. One more message;

"Just come by. We can talk. I'll make something you like, or I can by go by there after I finish what I am doing."

Then he texted "I guess you must be busy with Jarred."

Jarred lives about 3 hours away with his wife he should drop that.


Posted by lnana04
Ugh, I hate when the games start. She must not be budging, so he's going to chase and harrass until she gives in then he's going to flip the switch again smh. Right now he is in a position he doesn't want to be in but only if he handled the situation in a mature manner at the start.

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TLS
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Posted by hexum

So you would eat dinner with your date, then screw her a couple times...and THEN your insecurity would pop up? I mean if he had something to say about it, shouldn't he have brought it up during dinner...or certainly PRIOR to sleeping with her TWICE? Sounds like a player - not an insecurity issue. Now he wants to be "friends" and "no hard feelings" and make her feel better by having sex again? He knows what he is doing.



I wait on the whole sex thing, but most younger people don't nowadays. It sounds to me like he likes her, hence the talk about long-term potential, and the severe jealousy. If he was just a player and didn't have feelings, I doubt he'd even care about Jarred and his smooches.
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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio

I wait on the whole sex thing, but most younger people don't nowadays. It sounds to me like he likes her, hence the talk about long-term potential, and the severe jealousy. If he was just a player and didn't have feelings, I doubt he'd even care about Jarred and his smooches.



this sounds the most reasonable. ah! tell her to make up with him and be done with it!
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"Then he texted "I guess you must be busy with Jarred."

Wtf, how insulting!

Reminds me of another Taurus my sister dated. I don't know what happened, I guess her phone was ringing and it was a guy friend...or they went out and a guy knew her. He said "Dang, I didn't know you were out there like that!!!" I dont condone violence and was disappointed to hear she did this, but my sister swung and hit him in the jaw. Some Virgos are a bit physical lol, but her temper got the best of her when he insinuated she was "out there."

The Jarred guy is married and he knows Im sure, why do that smh. Your sister should leave him alone. I was thinking she should give him another chance but his colors are showing.

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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
Posted by hexum

So you would eat dinner with your date, then screw her a couple times...and THEN your insecurity would pop up? I mean if he had something to say about it, shouldn't he have brought it up during dinner...or certainly PRIOR to sleeping with her TWICE? Sounds like a player - not an insecurity issue. Now he wants to be "friends" and "no hard feelings" and make her feel better by having sex again? He knows what he is doing.



I wait on the whole sex thing, but most younger people don't nowadays. It sounds to me like he likes her, hence the talk about long-term potential, and the severe jealousy. If he was just a player and didn't have feelings, I doubt he'd even care about Jarred and his smooches.
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I know you wouldn't TLS because most guys that care and have feelings for someone wouldn't wait until AFTER they tapped it a couple times to be a complete douche canoe and suggest a break. If he does have feelings and is just playing a game then she should run, run, run anyway.
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SummersBliss
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All I see is a large red flag. She told him in full as I told you guys who Jarred was. Didn't matter to him.


He's as you said. "extremely"jealous. So was her last boy friend whom turned out to be a possessive control freak.

I hope she keeps him blocked 😢 I am worried that she will give in because he can be quite the charmer despite this bullshit he's pulling

Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
The suggestion of a break just sounds like he overplayed his hand to me. Probably was *extremely* jealous of the chemistry, and went too far in his attempt to control. Leo Moons have been known to be a bit overdramatic too. This much early on though - definitely some deep insecurity, and probably too much for a Virgo to handle in the long run.

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SummersBliss
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@leomoon just a small bit for the honesty.

This whole entire situation has got MORE entertaining by the day!


Ryan WAS at the bowling alley. His game was started already. So, apparently he WASN'T following her. She said he was with his family.

They got their lane NO WHERE NEAR Ryan's party, and started the game. Sis gets up to get a drink. While she waits of course here comes Ryan.

The bathroom is near the place where you get food/drinks. He "accidentally" bumps her going towards bathroom.

That was the "interaction."


Texts her Today. *Mr number* allows you to see the message still, but they can't call depending on the settings. (I think that is stupid)

Ryan texts; "I didn't get the chance to say sorry for bumping into you."

Sis unblocks him and unloads on him.


He still has not responded. I doubt that he will, but I don't know.

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lnana04
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You should go on Tmz and watch Chris Brown harrass and stalk his ex after he treated her poorly for years. There's proof that some Taurus males have a hard time letting possessions go and will go to extremes to regain control.

I bring him up because him bumping into your sister like that isn't a good sign. I don't think any of his behavior is a good sign. He sounds like he is more on the manipulative side and will do whatever it takes to make sure he's in control of a situation. Hopefully your sister hasn't attracted someone similar to her ex.
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Posted by SummersBliss
Shes not the type to be easily budged. She is very stubborn herself (lol). Shes simply giving him what he says he wanted. He called about three times. One more message;

"Just come by. We can talk. I'll make something you like, or I can by go by there after I finish what I am doing."

Then he texted "I guess you must be busy with Jarred."

Jarred lives about 3 hours away with his wife he should drop that.



what? jarred is married? how would his wife feel if she saw her husband hugging and kissing his female friend?
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RiverLee
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Posted by jeane
am i the only person who thinks this was blown way out of proportion?



Nope I thought the same thing haha

I don't think Ryan was using sister for sex but I do think that sister is insecure about being used for sex. I think Ryan tried to play off the interaction with Jarred as if it was no big deal but deep inside it bothered his ego & the more he thought about it, the more upset he got. Plus he was probably being overly sensitive/paranoid to any deviation in sisters behavior after that probably had his mind really going. IE: If she didn't seem that into sex or wasn't talking that much, he probably thought that she was thinking of Jarred lol His insecurity got the best of him & he light weight snapped saying they should call it quits but really that was just a play to elicit a response which he was hoping would ease his insecurity, if sister got upset about it he would feel better knowing that she really wanted him. That didn't happen so he panicked with multiple calls/texts. Then she went off on him which only wounded his already bruised ego so that little temper came out again.

Sounds like a young couple who both have insecurities & don't know how to communicate them to each other. But I don't think Ryan is a player.
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lnana04
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I do think his insecurities got the best of him, and I dont think he's a player either. Initially I thought she should give him another chance but its the continuation of poor actions on his end that should be a red flag..

"Oh, you must be with Jarrod"
Bumping into her at the bowling alley.
"Dont be so uptight, you are not that special."

How can you keep the offenses going if you really want a situation to get better? Imo he should have apologized, then let her come around when ready to speak her mind about his actions, apologize again and they'd possibly be in a good place by now lol. Its like he's over there panicking so he keeps offending.

Do you all think she should still give him another chance?
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jeane
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Posted by lnana04

Do you all think she should still give him another chance?



i think it is probably too late for another chance now but not too late to learn the lesson. seems to me that all the situation was a bit of understanding and a bit of reassurance. he was insecure. he probably did try to illicit some sort of response when he wasn't getting the one he wanted and it seems like he said things he didn't mean.

he tried to make up with her when he came to his senses but she cut him off. there were no red flags. he didn't harm her. he turned up at the bowling alley (intentional or not) because she had so far ignored his attempts to reconcile.

all he needed was a bit of patience, some kindness and some empathy. if we can't give that to our partners, who can we give that to?
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Posted by lnana04
It sounds like she may have a lot of friends. What would ease him in the future?



Respect & communication.

We are only getting sisters side of the story via Summer who wasn't even there. Sister could have done some things wrong too. For instance, how did sister introduce Ryan & Jarred?
This is Ryan my boyfriend
This is Ryan my friend
This is Ryan...
Did sister include Ryan in the conversation or leave him in the dark while she laughed & carried on with Jarred about "old times" etc
All of this could change things.
My last ex had a lot of female friends because he was in a college program that was primarily women. They would meet for study groups. One time he invited me to join them at a restaurant. I walked in & he was the only man sitting among probably 6 other women lol The thing that saved him was that he introduced me as his girlfriend, was affectionate with me & included me in their conversations. He treated me with respect & showed me that I was important. Had he blew me off, ignored me or acted like I was an annoyance things would have went much different lol Also, had he hugged these ladies goodbye I think I would have been fine with that but a kiss on the cheek might be a little more than I would be comfortable with (especially if he wasn't being attentive to me throughout the evening) & I'm not a very jealous or insecure woman. To me, that would feel disrespectful.
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Posted by SummersBliss
Shes not the type to be easily budged. She is very stubborn herself (lol). Shes simply giving him what he says he wanted. He called about three times. One more message;

"Just come by. We can talk. I'll make something you like, or I can by go by there after I finish what I am doing."

Then he texted "I guess you must be busy with Jarred."

Jarred lives about 3 hours away with his wife he should drop that.



what? jarred is married? how would his wife feel if she saw her husband hugging and kissing his female friend?



is jarred a scorpio? there's nothing worse than being air kissed by a smarmy scorpio dude. definitely grounds for break up.
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sounds like a sag to me. they think it is ok to talk to married friends daily. but i have heard for sags friends come first 😐
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Posted by leomoondoucherat
Posted by puhleeze
Posted by SummersBliss
Shes not the type to be easily budged. She is very stubborn herself (lol). Shes simply giving him what he says he wanted. He called about three times. One more message;

"Just come by. We can talk. I'll make something you like, or I can by go by there after I finish what I am doing."

Then he texted "I guess you must be busy with Jarred."

Jarred lives about 3 hours away with his wife he should drop that.



what? jarred is married? how would his wife feel if she saw her husband hugging and kissing his female friend?



is jarred a scorpio? there's nothing worse than being air kissed by a smarmy scorpio dude. definitely grounds for break up.
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but should ryan be worried if jarred is a scorpio? there is nothing written about virgo scorpio chemistry anywhere.
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@busyeyes yes it does seem to be normal I've been pretty much in the same situation the op described so this story seemed all too familiar. I believe that Taurus and Virgo are ment to be I just think virgos have to learn to accept us for the way we are because Taurus will accept the Virgo for who they are and love them.They can definitely learn a lot from each other in more ways than one and in order for it to work in a relationship there needs to be good communication at all times that's where we failed I've noticed both Taurus and Virgo are equally stubborn at times not good at all.
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