Taurus being confusing

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Us seeing each other started out slow and in the last few weeks we've been together almost daily. Things were great!! I thought I had finally found my person. It all fell apart earlier this week and I am so confused and need help understanding so I can find peace and quit thinking about it nonstop. So here's the story some people at work know about him although I've never said we're together but a coworker asked how my boyfriends Backstreet Boys cover band was going which I thought was hilarious. (He plays guitar) (if you don't know who the Backstreet Boys are they're a late 90s pop band) so I texted him telling him about it and he was like flat out but we're not together. I didn't text him back because it hurt my feelings. Later that night I texted saying I need space because it hurts my feelings that you think we're nothing. He said he wasn't ready for a relationship and I said I honestly don't know what would change if we were official because we are already alwayssss together. He said he feels like he's relying on me to much. That he needs more time to figure things out for himself and when he's with me all of his attention is drawn to me and he can't control it and he wants to spend every night with me and he doesn't like it that he can't keep a balance.. I told him if this was the end that there wasn't going to be another beginning because I won't trust him. He decided to focus on himself. I went to go get my stuff from him and he was so pissy with me and I felt in a rush to leave. It sucks.. I really liked him.
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it he might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.
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Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
How long were you both together?

Seeing someone almost daily is not good. You need to give each other time to breath where both parties have their own lives and hobbies and friends to hang out with.

Taurus folk are very very independent and need someone who is also independent. Too much of a good thing is not good.

Give him his space and do not chase him.

Get on with your own life and see if he returns. He will contact you when HE is ready not you. The more you push the more he will dig his heals in and stay put...


I completely agree that we were spending to much time together. I don't see why we can't continue seeing each other just less often instead of him just wanting to end whatever we were. Idk I'll give him his space and hope he returns. He said if he were to be in a relationship I'd be the one he wants. I really don't understand how you can know you'd want to be with someone but not be with them??
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Us seeing each other started out slow and in the last few weeks we've been together almost daily. Things were great!! I thought I had finally found my person. It all fell apart earlier this week and I am so confused and need help understanding so I can find peace and quit thinking about it nonstop. So here's the story some people at work know about him although I've never said we're together but a coworker asked how my boyfriends Backstreet Boys cover band was going which I thought was hilarious. (He plays guitar) (if you don't know who the Backstreet Boys are they're a late 90s pop band) so I texted him telling him about it and he was like flat out but we're not together. I didn't text him back because it hurt my feelings. Later that night I texted saying I need space because it hurts my feelings that you think we're nothing. He said he wasn't ready for a relationship and I said I honestly don't know what would change if we were official because we are already alwayssss together. He said he feels like he's relying on me to much. That he needs more time to figure things out for himself and when he's with me all of his attention is drawn to me and he can't control it and he wants to spend every night with me and he doesn't like it that he can't keep a balance.. I told him if this was the end that there wasn't going to be another beginning because I won't trust him. He decided to focus on himself. I went to go get my stuff from him and he was so pissy with me and I felt in a rush to leave. It sucks.. I really liked him.
I.....don't really understand why you took your stuff?
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.

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So why would he come back? To someone who will never trust him? Inviting.

Come on youre a Libra. You know how to negotiate with people. You made it an impossible situation to return from. People say things they don't mean all the time but you took the first wobble, said nope and packed your stuff.
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.



So why would he come back? To someone who will never trust him? Inviting.

Come on youre a Libra. You know how to negotiate with people. You made it an impossible situation to return from. People say things they don't mean all the time but you took the first wobble, said nope and packed your stuff.

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Well what am I supposed to say?? I'm hurt. I feel played. I miss him!! Damn right I'd be scared to try again just for him to disappear
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.



So why would he come back? To someone who will never trust him? Inviting.

Come on youre a Libra. You know how to negotiate with people. You made it an impossible situation to return from. People say things they don't mean all the time but you took the first wobble, said nope and packed your stuff.




Well what am I supposed to say?? I'm hurt. I feel played. I miss him!! Damn right I'd be scared to try again just for him to disappear

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Then you talk about it and you try to understand what he is staying before you start accusing him of things. You've painted yourself into a corner now that has made more difficult (but not impossible) to come back from.

My partner was cautious to enter into a relationship when we started. Sometimes it's just a matter of talking it through and taking things at their pace.
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If he were to come back within a few weeks then no problem, lets start again. If he lets me forget what it feels like to be in his arms the risk of getting hurt isn't going to feel worth it
This shows that you don't trust the person he is. Unless you can do that and allow yourself to the possibility of hurt (you're bound to have your feelings hurt in relationships from time to time) then yes, find someone new.
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Hey libra....

First of all, you didn't let him have the thrill of conquering you as his "girlfriend" before you started talking like you were his girlfriend. Yes, you're a couple for sure... you know that in your gut... but it seems like he wanted to propose the idea to you himself in his own timing and you jumped the gun. And the way you did it-- "A friend said you were my boyfriend"--- it's so casual that its almost sneaky! Like "good morning, surprise! you are now in a relationship... it happened while you were asleep but I assure you it's real!" And then you got mad at him for telling you that you jumped the gun... ay...

By the way, I know you don't really think that you two are "nothing". Way to try to use words in order to manipulate him! But no one is falling for it!! You and him both know that you're not "nothing". You want to MAKE you two nothing unless he TELLS you that you aren't nothing— That's what you just did there! For goodness sake, he says that he feels like he's relying on you too much... that's a relationship for sure.

Baptist is right about the spending too much time together thing. Don't make yourself so available next time, especially when the man hasn't yet made the relationship status clear on his own.

I think that he cares about you for sure, he just doesn't want you trying to manipulate him into commitment. Drop the talk of committing until he opens it again... be available but not too available.. make him miss you're presence a bit. If you get the chance, tell him you over-reacted and that you understand that he needs time. And give him his time but not a whole lot of yours.

It's like your fear of getting hurt is actually the thing that is hurting you right now. Fear is the negativity in your relationship with him. Don't be so scared. "Theres nothing to fear but fear itself" anyway..

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Hey libra....

First of all, you didn't let him have the thrill of conquering you as his "girlfriend" before you started talking like you were his girlfriend. Yes, you're a couple for sure... you know that in your gut... but it seems like he wanted to propose the idea to you himself in his own timing and you jumped the gun. And the way you did it-- "A friend said you were my boyfriend"--- it's so casual that its almost sneaky! Like "good morning, surprise! you are now in a relationship... it happened while you were asleep but I assure you it's real!" And then you got mad at him for telling you that you jumped the gun... ay...

By the way, I know you don't really think that you two are "nothing". Way to try to use words in order to manipulate him! But no one is falling for it!! You and him both know that you're not "nothing". You want to MAKE you two nothing unless he TELLS you that you aren't nothing— That's what you just did there! For goodness sake, he says that he feels like he's relying on you too much... that's a relationship for sure.

Baptist is right about the spending too much time together thing. Don't make yourself so available next time, especially when the man hasn't yet made the relationship status clear on his own.

I think that he cares about you for sure, he just doesn't want you trying to manipulate him into commitment. Drop the talk of committing until he opens it again... be available but not too available.. make him miss you're presence a bit. If you get the chance, tell him you over-reacted and that you understand that he needs time. And give him his time but not a whole lot of yours.

It's like your fear of getting hurt is actually the thing that is hurting you right now. Fear is the negativity in your relationship with him. Don't be so scared. "Theres nothing to fear but fear itself" anyway..





You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.
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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.
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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.

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A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.
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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.



So why would he come back? To someone who will never trust him? Inviting.

Come on youre a Libra. You know how to negotiate with people. You made it an impossible situation to return from. People say things they don't mean all the time but you took the first wobble, said nope and packed your stuff.




Well what am I supposed to say?? I'm hurt. I feel played. I miss him!! Damn right I'd be scared to try again just for him to disappear


Then you talk about it and you try to understand what he is staying before you start accusing him of things. You've painted yourself into a corner now that has made more difficult (but not impossible) to come back from.

My partner was cautious to enter into a relationship when we started. Sometimes it's just a matter of talking it through and taking things at their pace.

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I think Jeane's Taurus has a Venus in Taurus...(correct me if I'm wrong jeane) but wondering OP, what is your Taurus' Venus?
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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.




A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.

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Don't even come on this forum if you're going to accuse people of being 'ignorant' when they have taken THEIR time out of THEIR day to read YOUR story in order to give YOU some helpful advice so that YOU can use it to sort out YOUR life.

To label someone as ignorant seems to be the new 'default' response to anything when you know that person is right but you do not want to accept it.

Others have the same view it was a tantrum of some kind (including me) so not everyone can be wrong.

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To me it sounds like you over reacted. If you had said to him, take some time to think about it you might have come round.

But you pushed and said that he has to be in the same place as you and that rarely happens.

Saying you don't trust him when he was honest with you about his feelings is unfair.

If you want to put this back together say you understand and that he should take the time he needs to figure things out. He'll appreciate that and likely come back.


I said I wouldn't trust him the next time around because we spent so much time together for him to just be like nope now that you're upset that there's not a title we just have to go our separate ways. I mean we said we'd be friends but it's not the same.



So why would he come back? To someone who will never trust him? Inviting.

Come on youre a Libra. You know how to negotiate with people. You made it an impossible situation to return from. People say things they don't mean all the time but you took the first wobble, said nope and packed your stuff.




Well what am I supposed to say?? I'm hurt. I feel played. I miss him!! Damn right I'd be scared to try again just for him to disappear


Then you talk about it and you try to understand what he is staying before you start accusing him of things. You've painted yourself into a corner now that has made more difficult (but not impossible) to come back from.

My partner was cautious to enter into a relationship when we started. Sometimes it's just a matter of talking it through and taking things at their pace.


I think Jeane's Taurus has a Venus in Taurus...(correct me if I'm wrong jeane) but wondering OP, what is your Taurus' Venus?
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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.




A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.


Just my two cents but it was a little bit of a tantrum. We all do it sometimes. The words you used like 'nothing' when you clearly are not that was a slight exaggeration of the truth. I understand you were hurt and that is how he made you feel, with that hurt you went to collect your stuff etc, but that was a bit too far.

Taurus never like to be told of their relationship status or anything no matter how casual you try and make it sound.

I threw and 'tantrum' with my bull the other day and accused him of using me. I came to my senses and apologised pretty quickly, but at the time that's how I felt.

@jeane is right about not focusing on only your feelings. Bulls are sensitive and you really don't know how he took what you said. Don't assume he doesn't care or wasn't bothered by it. Unfortunately there is no way of finding out as opening up is not their strong point and you mentioned not trusting him so I think at the moment you should gather your thoughts, calm down and then apologise.

Don't call a bulls bluff and don't say think hoping he may react the way you want because you always lose, I'm speaking from my own experiences. They HATE drama!

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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.




A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.

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With your response you've just proved my point.

Instead of trying to understand what I am saying and considering if it's valid, you've shot back with name calling.

You're a kid, pouting in the corner crying "what about me?" and "it's not fair". Be an adult and deal with the situation at hand rather than feeling indignation that you've been slighted - by him, by me, or anyone else.
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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.




A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.


With your response you've just proved my point.

Instead of trying to understand what I am saying and considering if it's valid, you've shot back with name calling.

You're a kid, pouting in the corner crying "what about me?" and "it's not fair". Be an adult and deal with the situation at hand rather than feeling indignation that you've been slighted - by him, by me, or anyone else.

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Ok but you need to understand from my standpoint that you are referring to me having normal feelings as a tantrum . I may have been able to EXPRESS myself better but it was no tantrum. It's fine tho. I did like what you said but that was rude.

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Ok but you need to understand from my standpoint that you are referring to me having normal feelings as a tantrum . I may have been able to EXPRESS myself better but it was no tantrum. It's fine tho. I did like what you said but that was rude.


tantrum

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noun

an uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child.

Honey, I don't need to understand shit.
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Ok but you need to understand from my standpoint that you are referring to me having normal feelings as a tantrum . I may have been able to EXPRESS myself better but it was no tantrum. It's fine tho. I did like what you said but that was rude.


tantrum

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an uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child.

Honey, I don't need to understand shit.
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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.
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well if our misinformation is the issue here... because we weren't there... then why are you asking a forum?Jeane was just trying to help. Her entire post was very obviously supportive. I feel like you missed all of that and jumped on one word she used. My mom was a libra that always thought people were out to get her, too. It comes from being overly sensitive to insults... it makes us see insults where there are none. You can break the habit by purposely trying to see the ways people want to HELP you--- not the opposite. Go back and reread Jeane's post and you'll see the entire thing is full of encouraging words. And then ask yourself if it is possible that all of those nice words meant nothing just because she decided to use the little word "tantrum" to describe a situation
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It's cool ho really. You weren't there for the conversation nor have you read the texts. You have no way of even knowing if you're right or not that's why I said ignorant.
Then everyone here is ignorant. Given we are all so ignorant what do you want? You want us all to agree with you?

You had an outburst. You spoke in extremes, collected your stuff and had a whine.

The thing is I am a Libra with a long term Taurus partner. You're not. I'm not ignorant about my own Libra-taurus dynamics but you know, you have all the answers.

So keep doing what your doing! It seems to be working for you so far.
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It's cool ho really. You weren't there for the conversation nor have you read the texts. You have no way of even knowing if you're right or not that's why I said ignorant.
Then everyone here is ignorant. Given we are all so ignorant what do you want? You want us all to agree with you?

You had an outburst. You spoke in extremes, collected your stuff and had a whine.

The thing is I am a Libra with a long term Taurus partner. You're not. I'm not ignorant about my own Libra-taurus dynamics but you know, you have all the answers.

So keep doing what your doing! It seems to be working for you so far.
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Maybe I've just never heard tantrum used in a non offensive way. Like I said I did like what you said. I just wouldn't consider what I did to be a tantrum. Sometimes I don't express myself as well as I should because I'm thinking of things from a million different angels of possibilities. What I really need to work on is thinking about the bigger picture. What I want and want I want to be remembered that I say.

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You make some very good points and that last paragraph hit home hard!! I do have a tendency to let my fears get the best of me. However I do think that he could have handled the whole situation more gently too. Why do I have to wait and wonder?? At least throw me a bone to keep me going . I have feelings too. After getting my stuff yesterday he has contacted me several times and almost feels like things are normal. I will definitely be sure to apologize for making him feel like it was a snap decision to comit now or loose me . That's not how I meant it.. yes I'd like to be "official " but more than anything I wanted to know that what I feel when we are tangled up cuddling every part of our body as closely as possible is mutual.


stop playing tit for tat. yes, i know you want things to be fair and equal but things aren't like that.

you wait and wonder because you think he is worth giving a chance to. you are only thinking of your wants, your needs. if you want to be in a relationship, sometimes it has to be about their needs and their wants.

i agree with the other libra, you forced him to face a situation he was not ready to consider yet. it looked like it would have happened organically but with this you've pulled an ultimatum and a thrown all your toys out of the pram.

i swear to god i have said the exact same things you are saying but i very quickly i realised i liked my partner enough to stop worry about myself all the time and be the partner he needs me to be. i still had my boundaries but it meant being patient, compromising and stop being so self centred that only my feelings matter.

you will know that he feels the same when you know. he could say it a thousand times a day and not mean it. don't you want someone who will say it when they are ready and not because you've thrown a tantrum?

anyway, actions always speak louder than words. ask yourself how does he act? that will tell you all you need to know.




A tantrum?? Don't even comment if you're going to be ignorant.


With your response you've just proved my point.

Instead of trying to understand what I am saying and considering if it's valid, you've shot back with name calling.

You're a kid, pouting in the corner crying "what about me?" and "it's not fair". Be an adult and deal with the situation at hand rather than feeling indignation that you've been slighted - by him, by me, or anyone else.




Ok but you need to understand from my standpoint that you are referring to me having normal feelings as a tantrum . I may have been able to EXPRESS myself better but it was no tantrum. It's fine tho. I did like what you said but that was rude.


Look, the way you "dramatically" referred to yourself as "nothing".. You then "hastily" went to collect your stuff..." That is a tantrum and unwanted drama and it will be classed as such even in the eyes of you and even if you got together in the future, he will see what you are capable of.

Jeane was not being rude, she was merely telling the truth and you sound like a 5 year old with just paragraph here.

Either you come here for the truth and accept it or go home..

We have better things to do? U asked us a question you've got your answer.. So don't start calling people rude....
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1. If you had read this entire thread instead of jumping on the hate train you would have seen that I got my warm clothes because it just went from warm and sunny to cold and snowing

2. He'll see what I'm capable of? that's a pretty big statement to make about someone you don't even know and the only communication you've had was when you jump in to fight things that aren't even your business

3. The truth and you're exaggerations are two different things

4. I'm sure you're smiling so big right now thinking you're so intelligent and are really showing me but you're not. You have no idea what the he'll you're talking about
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Posted by libragirl37
1. If you had read this entire thread instead of jumping on the hate train you would have seen that I got my warm clothes because it just went from warm and sunny to cold and snowing

2. He'll see what I'm capable of? that's a pretty big statement to make about someone you don't even know and the only communication you've had was when you jump in to fight things that aren't even your business

3. The truth and you're exaggerations are two different things

4. I'm sure you're smiling so big right now thinking you're so intelligent and are really showing me but you're not. You have no idea what the he'll you're talking about



listen, this is a forum. people are going to have opinions. if you don't want them that's fine. start a diary.

and stop feeling sorry for yourself. none hates you here.
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Posted by libragirl37
1. If you had read this entire thread instead of jumping on the hate train you would have seen that I got my warm clothes because it just went from warm and sunny to cold and snowing

2. He'll see what I'm capable of? that's a pretty big statement to make about someone you don't even know and the only communication you've had was when you jump in to fight things that aren't even your business

3. The truth and you're exaggerations are two different things

4. I'm sure you're smiling so big right now thinking you're so intelligent and are really showing me but you're not. You have no idea what the he'll you're talking about



listen, this is a forum. people are going to have opinions. if you don't want them that's fine. start a diary.

and stop feeling sorry for yourself. none hates you here.

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Wait... does that mean... I'm allowed to have them too!? You guys are the ones getting all upset. Maybe follow your own advice while giving it out
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1. If you had read this entire thread instead of jumping on the hate train you would have seen that I got my warm clothes because it just went from warm and sunny to cold and snowing

2. He'll see what I'm capable of? that's a pretty big statement to make about someone you don't even know and the only communication you've had was when you jump in to fight things that aren't even your business

3. The truth and you're exaggerations are two different things

4. I'm sure you're smiling so big right now thinking you're so intelligent and are really showing me but you're not. You have no idea what the he'll you're talking about



listen, this is a forum. people are going to have opinions. if you don't want them that's fine. start a diary.

and stop feeling sorry for yourself. none hates you here.




Wait... does that mean... I'm allowed to have them too!? You guys are the ones getting all upset. Maybe follow your own advice while giving it out

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i'm not upset.

i could be wrong but no one asked you to post here. part of posting on a forum is to subject yourself to a variety of opinions. the only person here that sounds sensitive is you.
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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.



It's just a matter of perception. Whether or not you actually were angry is not important. You may not think you were being temperamental in your reaction, but that doesn't mean he will interpret it the same way. Your actions were rather hasty, and that kind of impetuous behavior is the same as reacting out of anger to some, especially to those as slow and restrained as a Bull.

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Posted by libragirl37
Posted by jeane
Posted by libragirl37
1. If you had read this entire thread instead of jumping on the hate train you would have seen that I got my warm clothes because it just went from warm and sunny to cold and snowing

2. He'll see what I'm capable of? that's a pretty big statement to make about someone you don't even know and the only communication you've had was when you jump in to fight things that aren't even your business

3. The truth and you're exaggerations are two different things

4. I'm sure you're smiling so big right now thinking you're so intelligent and are really showing me but you're not. You have no idea what the he'll you're talking about



listen, this is a forum. people are going to have opinions. if you don't want them that's fine. start a diary.

and stop feeling sorry for yourself. none hates you here.


Ok



Wait... does that mean... I'm allowed to have them too!? You guys are the ones getting all upset. Maybe follow your own advice while giving it out



i'm not upset.

i could be wrong but no one asked you to post here. part of posting on a forum is to subject yourself to a variety of opinions. the only person here that sounds sensitive is you.
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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.



It's just a matter of perception. Whether or not you actually were angry is not important. You may not think you were being temperamental in your reaction, but that doesn't mean he will interpret it the same way. Your actions were rather hasty, and that kind of impetuous behavior is the same as reacting out of anger to some, especially to those as slow and restrained as a Bull.

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Maybe. He said I have nothing to apologize for. I think this part of the thread is dead. I'm just going to wait and hope for him to come back.
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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.



It's just a matter of perception. Whether or not you actually were angry is not important. You may not think you were being temperamental in your reaction, but that doesn't mean he will interpret it the same way. Your actions were rather hasty, and that kind of impetuous behavior is the same as reacting out of anger to some, especially to those as slow and restrained as a Bull.




Maybe. He said I have nothing to apologize for. I think this part of the thread is dead. I'm just going to wait and hope for him to come back.

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You have nothing to apologize for because you didn't do anything wrong or inappropriate. He can't fault you for feeling any type of way, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't note it in the back of his mind, as Taurus tend to do.

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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.



It's just a matter of perception. Whether or not you actually were angry is not important. You may not think you were being temperamental in your reaction, but that doesn't mean he will interpret it the same way. Your actions were rather hasty, and that kind of impetuous behavior is the same as reacting out of anger to some, especially to those as slow and restrained as a Bull.




Maybe. He said I have nothing to apologize for. I think this part of the thread is dead. I'm just going to wait and hope for him to come back.



You have nothing to apologize for because you didn't do anything wrong or inappropriate. He can't fault you for feeling any type of way, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't note it in the back of his mind, as Taurus tend to do.

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Touché
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I did not react out of anger nor did I say anything angry.



It's just a matter of perception. Whether or not you actually were angry is not important. You may not think you were being temperamental in your reaction, but that doesn't mean he will interpret it the same way. Your actions were rather hasty, and that kind of impetuous behavior is the same as reacting out of anger to some, especially to those as slow and restrained as a Bull.




Maybe. He said I have nothing to apologize for. I think this part of the thread is dead. I'm just going to wait and hope for him to come back.


Don't just hope PRAY as well.

He has already left you and weighing up your personality. He may have told you "it's ok I understand" but in his head he is thinking things differently. So you can WAIT. And he will take his tiiiiiiimmmmmmeeeeee
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He's pretty straight up. I trust that he meant what he said. I am not a women of religion.